At first I thought bringing up this subject again would be beating a dead horse, but then I thought that the horse wasn't dead; although it had been ridden hard last week it was far from dead. (Besides, isn't beating dead horses a BE tradition?)
There seemed to be little discussion about one of Dave's points (and my initial one) that fan behavior has changed a great deal over the years. I suppose one reason is because few here have witnessed that change. You only know what you have seen. There were several comments like “I grew up seeing/hearing whatever” which I'm sure is accurate reporting. This is what you know.
But now to the O.T. part... In an insightful moment I realized that it has changed because nowadays “it's all about me.” My grandson's response to a lot of my questions like why is a booing ban unfair or why would he launch the game ball at the basket from the upper level is always, “it's fun.” No bad rap on him – he wouldn't actually disrupt the game ball delivery or boo if it had been banned, at least if he was with me– but he thinks about it. There's a big difference between thinking about something and actually doing it. But who is the doing fun for? Anyone other than the doer?
I think “it's all about me” show a lack of respect for others. The man who ruined the game for broyposse's parents drank too much because “it's fun”. Incessant heckling is fun – for the heckler. If the game ball delivery was halted because someone did something “fun” the night might be spoiled for the 7 yr old boy who was bouncing with excitement because he was going to be holding a real NBA ball. No matter. Constant obscenities at high volume might ruin the night for the older couple nearby. Tough. Beer gets spilled on the lady in the row below and the reaction is laughter. The only one concerned about hair full of beer is the lady herself. She should have known this might happen. But of course if she'd dipped her hair in his beer the story might be different .
I'm wondering if these totally obnoxious people (and I'm hoping that Bedgers are too classy to behave in such a manner) were indulged by parents. You know, the little kid who constantly kicks the back of your seat and when you ask nicely that she stop her parent says, “she's not hurting anything.” No, she's not hurting, but she's sure annoying. I'm sure that when she is 13 she will shriek at nothing (and everything) at an ear splitting pitch because “it's fun.” (Had a couple of those in the vicinity a few games ago).
It's possible to have fun without annoying others. Or is “fun” evolving too? Is it fun only if it hurts another (re: “funny” home videos when men get hit in vulnerable places?) or humiliates someone? Is getting the spotlight on you the ultimate fun?
Is “respect” also a lost cause? (Watching the Blazer Dancers in their S&M lingerie gyrating to “R.E.S.P.E.C.T” makes me wonder.) Is lack of respect as result of too much “politically correct” - is “forced” respect truly respect? How do the younger generations define respect?
I'm not pointing fingers and I'm not ranting. I see a great deal of respect on this site. I'm just throwing out my flash of insight (which probably resulted from watching “Groundhog Day” - a classic "me" movie - the day before it happened) and see what people think.