Junk Drawer 3/11/09: College Basketball Sucks edition
by TheTinfoil on Mar 11, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
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I am an NBA fan. I am not a college basketball fan. Why? Because it sucks.
I do not want to have to learn and develop opinions about 895 different teams. I don't want to watch 6'1 white kids running around for 40 seconds per possession. I don't like my tax money paying for coaches who don't win. I don't like having halves, instead of quarters. If I wanted soccer, I would watch soccer, and soccer is boring, therefore college basketball is boring. Q.E.D.
Seriously, each team has maybe one guy who MIGHT make the pros, and even less of a chance to make it on my team. Why should I care?
Be honest: most people only care when the tournament comes around, and then only because they can win the office pool.
Anybody actually watch regular season games with interest? Do you ever watch a team that isn't your alma mater?
The link above is a good one, assuming it works.
And always remember: A stated opinion is a fact, and any disagreement is wrong because the other person is rooting for the terrorists to win. I learned that on Fox News.
(maybe next time someone will write a worthwhile junk drawer before 11:15!)
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There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions
Only thirty-four to go!
Make that thirty-three.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you're third
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Mar 11, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
To quote the great Kevin Klein on the subject of the Vietnam War...
“..it was a tie!”
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by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah my post came before Scotty's response to himself.
Besides, only original posts count, not a response to a post!
I stand by my opinion
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Mar 11, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of college basketball: Nice Blake Griffin article in the NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/sports/ncaabasketball/09griffin.html?_r=1&th&emc=th
Still not really sold on him, and he is out of reach for the Blazers anyway. But he could make our division harder if he joins OKC.
I second your motion that most guys on NCAA teams are not fun to watch, either for a lack of athletic talent and/or a lack of shot selection. And refereeing on the college level is certainly not better than in the pros.
Referring is WAAAY better on the college level
perhaps only because the game is slower. You never see refs take over a game in college the way they do in the the pros. NBA officiating is the worst in the world of sports.
I watched a Duke – VT game a week or so ago that was decided by the refs when they didn’t call a Dukie (Scheyer?) committing like three travels when he was double teamed after the inbounding play and desperately stepped around his pivot foot to keep the ball.
You obviously
don’t watch the Pac-10. Referees dictate games all the time in college.
I don't like NCAA ball for the same reasons Norsktroll said
And I gotta agree with him, the reffing is even worse than the NBA— though I don’t think NBA refs are that bad, once you watch the Olympics or Euroball or NCAA. NBA refs are a billion times better, and NCAA are just as bad (if not worse) at giving famous players star treatment.
NCAA ball is for people who like watching white guys box out. It is boring as hell because everyone is bad at basketball. I didn’t go to a cool or big college though, so maybe I’d feel different if I went to a school worth following. The talent level and reffing just makes it arduous to watch when ya got the NBA.
And I hope no one says “college kids play harder”. You can watch the Wiz vs the Bucks in January and everyone except the Ricky Davis’ of the world are playing as hard as any untalented college kid.
I don’t mind people preferring the NCAA, just that their reasons for it are usually wrong. Not opinion wise, but factually, wrong.
Mortimer, NBA fan
by Mortimer on Mar 11, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
College basketball is boring
Watching amateurs play is more fun for some sports, but NOT basketball. The worse the players, the sloppier the game, the less fun it is. On raw talent, thus raw fun.
NBA >>> MNCAA >> WNBA > MHS > WNCAA > WHS.
It’s pretty simple. The better the players are, the more fun it is to watch. Don’t believe me? Look at jersey sales, attendance etc. etc. etc. Some people will disagree, but they’re a major minority.
Now other sports have different arguments. Wrestling gets slower and more boring as you move up because everyone becomes so good and more evenly matched. HS > College > Professional. Same with MMA. Close, evenly matched fights tend to be dull, whereas when one guy holds an edge it’s a lot more fun to watch. That’s another topic though!
Add soccer
to the list of sports made more interesting by unequal teams. When two really class clubs play each other, you get a lot of solid positional defending and the best opportunities come off of set pieces. When it’s one really good team and a marginal one, the better team generates a ton of clever attacking opportunities but frequently leaves itself vulnerable to quick counterattacks. Give me Man U-Fulham compared to Liverpool-Real Madrid any day.
by BlazersOrBust on Mar 11, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I couldn’t go through all sports, but most fall into each category. Wrestling is just the biggest offender of HS > Pro to me.
Is there such a thing as professional wrestling?
I’m ignoring, of course, the pseudo-sport called “wrestling” that the WWE and others promote.
One thing that makes a sport interesting—even at the pro level—is when styles matter. In boxing, you have the paradox that a out-fighter (like Ali) can usually beat a brawler (like Foreman), who can usually beat an infighter (like Frazier), but the in-fighter generally has the advantage against the outfighter.
The Blazers, for instance, are most vulnerable to teams with quick guards. The Lakers, fortunately, don’t have any.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m ignoring, of course, the pseudo-sport called "wrestling" that the WWE and others promote.
An argument could be made that MMA is the professional version of amateur wrestling. Or at least, as close as it gets. It’s not really my thing though.
This, of course, doesn’t ignore the infamous 2000 Olympics wrestling team..
No, MMA is a different sport than wrestling
just as it’s a different sport than boxing or judo, even though it combines elements from all three.
At least MMA is a sport, though.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
That said
I’d love to see nothing more than a chair thrown at the IOC chairman’s head.
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by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
MMA is wrestling, ewwww
MMA >>>>>> Wrestling = Boxing
Although all of the ridiculous rule changes made thanks to John McCains uneducated rants hasn’t helped the integrity of the sport IMO.
"Professional Wrestling"
I guess I mainly mean the olympics, which tends to be the best of the best among college guys for us anyway.
College basketball actually is kind of boring
Way too much overcoaching, the lane is too clogged, etc.
That said, soccer is NOT boring. At it’s best, it is the most artistic, creative, and free-flowing of all sports.
by samuelleejackson on Mar 11, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions
Soccer is one of those religious arguments
that probably is best kept out of bedge. Either you love it and appreciate it, or you loathe it and think its boring.
I myself enjoy both soccer AND American football…
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
unless you are watching the Mexican national team
pass backwards for 15 of the 20 minutes per half
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
well that was an exaggeration but really
a solid 25 of 45 minutes per half is spent passing back with their team. Soccer is interesting when you have agressive teams, ala Germany / England
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, the Mexican national team has its purpose
which is to get stomped on by the United States side.
Every team needs its personal beeyotch, and for US soccer, it’s Mexico.
Don’t know why that is, but it is.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
True...
but we own ’em on neutral sites, as well as games played in the US.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Also while exciting aggrevating
when spain and portugal play soccer Divac style
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
College hoops vs the pros
I’ll agree straight out—the pro game is infinitely better—and anyone who tells you otherwise isn’t paying attention. While college players do “play their hearts out”, and there are certainly loafers in the NBA—the level of play in the pros is a hundred times better, and the 82-game schedule is brutality.
A similar observation applies to college football.
That said, the college game is interesting—just like college football is interesting—for reasons beyond tourney betting or the enjoyment of watching your alma mater win (or their rivals lose).
It’s a bit more of a coach’s game—the greater diversity in talent levels makes a few tactics that simply aren’t useful in the pro game, useful and interesting.
Zone defense is seldom played in the pros, other than for short stretches—but it’s common in the college game. Likewise the Princeton offense.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions
But Football is a different situation,
and way more enjoyable at the college level.
Basketball relies much more on individual talent, so with so many more teams in NCAA it becomes much more amateur.
College football feels much more pure, because though individual players do make a big difference, coaching and good playmaking has even more sway.
I think the 82-game argument is really good. But doesn’t stand up to College football, as they play the same number of games (with similar frequency) as the Pros.
College Football >>> NFL
NCAA Basketball <<< NBA
^scientific facts ^
OH! HE JAMS WITH TWO HANDS! You gotta be kidding me!
Now don't get too excited Bayless, We'll let MB do that -
No get excited! TELL EM WHERE YOU'RE FROM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-OAPsB9vyM
NCAA Tourney basketball is probably the most entertaining event in all of sports
The one and done factor and the many many games on at any single time during the first couple of rounds, means you have consistently meaningful moments and upsets over and over again. I would agree that the “basketball” itself isn’t as good. However, the event as entertainment is great.
I like College Basketball
and attendance of MANY college basketball games is doing quite well..
that being said.. I can definitely agree with the sentiments about the number of teams.. I would have to shatter every bone in my body and have a virtual reality headpiece to watch even 3% of regular college basketball games.. it is just waaay too much.. I scout out a couple of interesting matchups every couple of weeks and let that be enough until March…
the College game is interesting because you get to see sort of a fusion of eurobasketball and NBA.. some amazing team play with occasionally bursts of individual excellence..
Also.. anyone who thinks the quality of a game between two elite college programs is infinitely worse than watching the Kings and the Wizards play.. well.. i don’t think you are measuring the right things…
unfortunately.. the officiating sucks no matter what level you watch..
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
yeah
totally agree with the attending bit.
I was at a few U of O games during their run (2 years ago?) and the atmosphere at a college ball game is just epic. really really awesome.
OH! HE JAMS WITH TWO HANDS! You gotta be kidding me!
Now don't get too excited Bayless, We'll let MB do that -
No get excited! TELL EM WHERE YOU'RE FROM!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-OAPsB9vyM
I don’t like my tax money paying for coaches who don’t win.
Listen to me, we turn over 12 million dahlas to the University. Twelve Million!
Get some facts and come back and see me.
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
Please don't take me seriously. I have far too little knowledge to be serious about this subject.
I do believe in Greg, I do believe in Greg. I do I do I do I do I do believe in Greg.
Did you watch the vid? Haha i definitely wasn't taking yu seriously
just playin
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
Finally!
I didn’t think that I was the only one who really didn’t like college basketball that much. Sure the tournament is a blast to watch and the best part is that everyone gets into, but the level of play stinks. Well in comparison to the NBA it stinks.
But while we’re on the topic, we may as well throw out some tournament predictions! I hereby make my declaration that PITT will be crowned national champions.
Also, did anyone else see this article? I’m calling her bluff…
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=3964512
Honestly, I like college basketball
for the fact that it IS impossible to know everything about all the teams. I watch the teams I’m completely unfamiliar with (often with the sound off to avoid commentary) just to watch the raw game. It is unpolished (often sloppy) and frustrating mistakes abound. But the players are unselfish and fundamental (those without NBA skills anyway) and the game is pure (er). Don’t get me wrong, I also love the NBA for the exact opposite reasons: the back stories, intense hype, and of course the beautifully refined play of the athletes. What I don’t like about college basketball is when it tries to be the NBA by bringing in the hype and distorting the game. For me, it should be more like an upgraded form of high school ball (like a mid-major matchup) than a downgraded form of the NBA (like a UNC-Duke game). College basketball has it’s place in the world of hoops, as a slightly awkward transition from fundamental basketball to the NBA. It is so varied across the divisions and conferences that I think everyone should be able to find some part of it that they love.
"Travis has more hops than a bunny in a brewery. He elevates so high his seat doubles as a flotation device."
-Dave
I love college basketball
but again it comes with the territory when you go to a basketball school. Sure there are lots of teams to remember and the level of play isnt as good.
I however enjoy these things more:
- March Madness >>>>>>> Nba Playoffs (too many damn games)
- NCAA fans >>>>> NBA fans (no knock on blazer fans, but no NBA team has fans like the Cameron Crazies no matter how much i hate Duke)
- Passion of NCAA >>>> Paychecks of NBA. (I prefer guys to play for the name on the front of the jersey not the back. Tim Thomas is example 1 and Larry Hughes 1A)
- Emotion of the NCAA (when was the last time an NBA player got visibly hurtfully upset when they lost a game? Never? you ONLY get 4 years if you play all 4 to win in the NCAA)
- Team Play in NCAA >>>> 1 on 1 basketball in the NBA. this is really just a statement more than an opinion. NBA doesnt even play team ball. Every time the Blazers pass the ball around the perimeter to a guy in the corner for a 3 I get a big grin. So rarely happens
I like seeing young players develop. I think the NBA is a better product, but thats because it has fewer teams. (it could stand to lose a few as it is)
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
great points
but I can recall a few times where NBA players were visibly devastated about losing.. Bird and Magic come to mind as the strongest examples but I remember a couple of tearful interviews with KG before he was sent to Boston
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
ehh KG is an actor.. so dont trust that one
bird and magic are exceptions I think.
they were pure winners thru and thru..
side note to this: Free Agency has really killed emotion for players. Its all about the money now
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you mainly watch the NCAA tourney?
If you do then naturally the guys are crushed after losses, their season is over. The only time you can see this in it’s true form in the NBA is in a game 7 of the playoffs.
I watch all year long. Like college football
games mean more all season long. With fewer games, each one is more important for your chances. its harder to get to the tournament with so many teams vying for spots.
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
No I agree, but losing huge games in the NBA is just business
Losing huge games in teh NCAA is heartbreaking
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
One problem with the NBA is that the tickets are expensive
so the fans aren’t good and rowdy unless they drink a lot of beer.
An interesting compare is NCAA crowds with Euroleague crowds.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Another good point my friend
NCAA Tailgating >>>>>>>>>>>> NBA tailgaiting (if it even exists)
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That's true for all Sports
NFL tailgaiting is solid, but it’s still nothing compared to NCAA football tailgaiting.
still Point NCAA
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I just agreed with that :-)
It helps that a big part of their fanbase has a bunch of rowdy college kids.
indeed it does
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
One of my former schools is on ESPN as we speak
Getting embarrassed as usual
Make the music with your mouth Prz
Salaam.
My former school is headed to the tourney this year.
My wife is already groaning and dreading March Madness. Let the fun begin.
which one?
DePaul?
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
St. John's
It’s halftime now though. And I will not be watching the second half. It’s like 10-36 or 38
Make the music with your mouth Prz
Salaam.
ouch
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
ahhhh
so THATS why you dont like college basketball
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, I'm more of an Oregon fan
And even with Ridnour/Jackson/Jones I still only watched games during Pac-10 tourney and NCAA tourney.
again, that also supports why you dont like it
If Kent was my teams coach I would just plain give up..
course seeing as we have NO coach that doesnt say much for Kent
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
All the Ducks have is Phil Knight
But the Beavers have President Obama on our side! Woohoo!
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Crushes? In what country? Not this one...
Soccer in the US is weak. It’s a cool game, but we simply don’t have good soccer here.
That school produced some really smart people.
Will Smith in Seven Pounds, he went to that school.
Also, you’re welcome. My post was inflammatory enough to not break the least posts record, which ultimately was my goal. If nobody posts one tomorrow, it will be my expose on Bob Ross paintings, so somebody better step their game up.
I do believe in Greg, I do believe in Greg. I do I do I do I do I do believe in Greg.
happy trees rock
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
I will comment for days on that
he was a childhood idol.
no one has ever made more from less
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Mine too.
my only artistic hobby is lamely trying to paint like Bob. My living room is full of my efforts, and even though they suck, they make me feel special.
I do believe in Greg, I do believe in Greg. I do I do I do I do I do believe in Greg.
I've never met an NIT grad
I love watching Duck games even when they suck. After that I only want to watch the NCAA Tournament. I can care less about the rest.
This is a worthy Junk Drawer. It would be cool if other people tried to break both records. I think I’ve seen ones that just say “junk, junk, junk, junk…” That got a whole mess of comments. It has a life of its own. I like the ones about movies and pop culture.
Bob Ross killed my pa.
Love college hoops
Love soccer.
I like baseball also, but baseball and football are a heck of a lot more boring than elite level soccer (ie world cup, champions league, etc) or college hoops.
Baseball isn't a sport
If baseball is a sport then bowling is. Bowl for 3 hours and play baseball for 3 hours, see how you feel after both. (I will give the catcher a bye here, since they’re the exception.)
I dont like to watch baseball
but it is fun to play and I played it my whole life. I would have to say that a pitcher has it way tougher than a bowler as well.
I like watching baseball when I should be doing something else
I used to watch it when I had to study. You can tune it out until the announcer gets really excited.
Yea I can mabey watch the world series and a few innings of playoffs
but it is so boring unless you are playing.
I like baseball live too
I would never want season tickets but it’s fun to go drink and eat crappy food while taking in a game. I loved going to Em’s games in Eugene, Beaver’s games in Portland, and UH games here.
Most guys who bowl could not pitch for a half hour.
I promise any pitcher could bowl for 3 hours and do it 9 times as effective as any bowler would pitch.
Playoff games on LP
Anyone know how the playoffs work with League Pass? Are all playoff games on a cable/network channel now? (ie. ABC, TNT, ESPN, NBATV) Even in the first round?
If a game is on none of those channels, will League Pass still show it, or is it only for regular season?
Lp doesnt show playoff games
but all games are on cable TV I believe. LPBroadband works tho
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
LP doesn’t show playoff games because every playoff game is available on other channels
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Mar 11, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Great, thanks guys for the confirmation
I still think back to the days when Portland was in the WCF’s and they only showed some of the games on Blazer Cable. Broadcasting rights have come a long way.
I was a little worried the answer would be “oh, they’ll be on KGW or Comcast but not nationally”.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!
Sorry, Oden induced outburst.
I do believe in Greg, I do believe in Greg. I do I do I do I do I do believe in Greg.
Quick gets the magic number off by one...
it’s 13 (see my fanpost on the topic).
12 wins/PHX losses gets us a tie with Phoenix; one more is needed for a clear-cut advantage.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
yeh i noticed they cribbed your magic numbers idea
unless you cribbed someone else first, which i dont think is the case, they really ought to have given u credit
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
Magic numbers are used all the time
Especially in baseball.
Scotty did a good job making it easy to understand in his post though, which is always cool. :)
hmm, i had just never heard the term before, so i assumed it was his idea
then again, i watch about 0.2 baseball games per year, so that might have something to do with it.
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
Here's a good primer on it
Link.
It’s hard to get away from the words “Magic Number” in September during baseball season. It comes up in Football and Baseball but more rarely.
It's pretty much a baseball term.
The NFL has such a convoluted playoff system that things aren’t usually decided until the last week or two and sometimes come down to tiebreakers…
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
yeh when u only have 16 games
there are a lot more chances that ties will be seen
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
Magic numbers
are certainly not my idea.
Otherwise I would be suing everybody.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
damn myself
I made a mistake of scrolling down to the comments. then read some.. then shook my head.
o-live should just turn off comments. it keeps the populace from getting more stupid by osmosis
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that every time I read a olive article too
I’m a little scared of who reads olive after reading comments.
im kinda ashamed i did it.
like my dad is gonna tell me, “well hell son what did you expect. you were reading O-live? you thought it was going to be intelligent conversation with people who finished middleschool? you got what you deserved.”
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
if you didnt secretly know
you wouldnt know it was wrong.. now would you
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you mean....
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Mar 11, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Or
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Mar 11, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
well i dont see it posted anywhere else
but I was reading Simmons (i know some of you hate him) but he had a nice thing to say about the Blazers: as follows
“LeBron spins into the lane for a pretty jump hook. Clips by 9. He’s officially in "There’s No Way I’m Losing This Game” Mode. (Only five current players have this gear: LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Pierce and Brandon Roy. That’s the list.)"
good list to be on. not sure pierce is on there but hey he’s a celtic fan
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions
With all the stars of college basketball being one-and-done at the college level (i.e. essentially every good sophomore is gone), WHAT'S THE POINT?!?!
The Blazers are pretty much the College All Stars, if you think about it…
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
Ha, seriously
I remember before the 07 draft lottery, a friend asked me what my ideal off season would be. I said, “win the lottery, draft Oden, then trade Randolph for a top ten pick and draft Jeff Green or Corey Brewer if he isnt available. It would be the college all-star team.”
Turned out closer than I ever would have thought…
bayless and webster could still be in college
everyone else is either foreign or too old right now though, aren’t they?
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Others
Batum would be a sophomore
Sergio would be a senior I believe
LMA would be a senior
Webster would be a senior
Bayless would be a sophomore
Oden would be a junior
That would be a pretty scary college team!
ahh, i forgot Oden
yeh, that would be a sweet team
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
Not yet
But he could be.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Mar 11, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I never watched college ball until I moved to NC
Theres UNC, Duke, Wake Forest and NC State all within an hour circle, so it becomes like watching the minor leagues – - since I’ve been here I’ve seen Grant Hill, Brand, Duhon, Chris Paul, Shane Battier, Sheed, Duncan, Carter, Jamison, Magette, Deng, Dunleavy, Boozer, Stackhouse, Marvin Williams, Felton, ..then considering the ACC as a whole …theres been Blake, Wilcox, Dixon….and I know I’m missing some…McBob, Shav, Reddick,….
There are 58 active NBAers from the ACC…Jarret Jack, Marbury, Thad Young (don’t remember if he played but was signed to go to GTech) . . . .watching them play (even briefly) in college was getting a glimpse of the future
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
O and Bosh too...
there are more 2008-9 NBAers from the ACC (58)than any other conference Pac-10 is second with 47 (at least as of the beginning of this season) Most from a single school ?….Duke..
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
hard to say but noticed they also had more top 20 picks than any conference
a few years ago UNC had 7 players drafted….of course 1 wqas Sean May so…..
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
in fairness
Duke really kills the quality score. just horrible players outta there. the only ones that are any good bail quickly.
Deng and Brand come to mind
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah ....but..
a team of Duhon, Battier, Brand, Magette, Dunlevay, Hill, Dahntay Jones, Reddick, Randolph, Shel. Williams, Demarcus Nelson , Deng & Boozer would have some injury issues….but would likely be competitive ….these are the current 13 “active” Dukies in the league
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
brand avg's a double double for hisa career and Deng is 23...
hate duke but give the boys a break
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
well
Great Players – Brand, Boozer
Good Players – Deng, Magette, Battier
Average Players – Dunleavy, Hill (injuries)
Street Clothes – Duhon (dantoni numbers dont count) Jones, Reddick, Randolph, Williams, Nelson.
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 12, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Love it that we can have diverse opinions...
but . . .making an NBA squad is a remarkable achievement..getting paid to be a starting point guard on any squad = better than street clothes…you and me street clothes, know what I’’m saying?…Chris duhon was the national 3 point shooting champion as a senior in HS and they haven’t moved the basket so….he probably can shoot…reddick hit 60+ FT’s in a row a couple of times in college and was/is the all time points leader in the ACC … again they haven’t moved the basket sooo…must be some talent there…
I’m no fan of Coach K…but being dismissive of anyone on a NBA squad – - -all whom have achieved more than we ever will dream of in terms of athletic skill – - is fairly indefensible
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
Gotta say, tho, since I began following the NBA day-to-day (again) last Feb.
I don’t think I’ve watched another college game
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
I'd contact my doctor if I were you.
Side effects may include drowsiness, pain, and inability to focus on the Blazer game.
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
The funniest part of those commercials are the disclaimers
“If you have a sudden decrease in vision …call your doctor” which translates as “If you don’t stop you will go blind” (jus’ like my daddy used to tell me)
“This product will not prevent sexually transmitted diseases” -ironically, not taking it will prevent sexually trasmitted diseases
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I love you."
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by 92wastheyear on Mar 11, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
still thats not the worst side-effect
alli is all about the leakage.. out the sewage pipe..
you need diapers to take that stuff
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Mar 11, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
College basketball is great IF
You follow one team and or league and know it well AND that team and league are reasonably competent.
The lethargy of an NBA regular season game bothers me sometimes, but I’ve come to appreciate its pace.
I hate college basketball
because of their shady recruiters and drunk, frat guy fans irritate me more than any other fan, period.
"When I played, if you punched someone in the face, it only cost you 50 bucks" -- Maurice Lucas
i like college basketball more because
all pro players are millionaires who argue calls and don’t get back on defense
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