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Teams without their "Stars"

Good read from NBA.  Whoever does the adding on their side is wrong at times and also inconsistent in when they use + and - though.  This also doesn't take into account opponents, other injuries, etc, but still cool.

 http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/john_schuhmann/03/11/injury_update.numbers.game.20090311/index.html

I'll break it down real quick.  He just looks at teams Offensive and Defensive efficiency with and without certain players.  All this stuff is points per 100 possessions.  My +/- is improvement based.  (+4.9D is good, even though on their site it's bad.  I don't like their setup.)

Jameer Nelson +1.7O and +4.2D = +5.9
Amar'e Stoudamire -4.9O and +8.9D = +4.0
Ben Wallace +6.5O and -2.5D = +4.0
Andrew Bynum +1.5O and +2.1D = +3.6
Kevin Garnett -4.7O and +7.2D = +2.5
Mau Ginobli +1.6O and -2.1D = +0.5
Greg Oden -1.6O and +2.1D = +0.5

Now for players who "hurt" their teams!

Peja Stojakovic +4.4O and -4.9D = -0.5
Josh Howard -1.4O and -0.8D = -2.2
Tracy McGrady -3.7O and -1.7D = -5.4
Kenyon Martin -2.1O and -3.8D = -5.9

And our winner...

ALLEN IVERSON -10.1O and 0.00D = -10.1

My thoughts:
-Amare helping defense and hurting offense is a bit odd because he went down shortly after injury to coach.  Does this mean Phoenix was better with Amare or with Porter?  Who knows!
-Ben Wallace helps on offense and hurts on defense?  Say what now?  My only guess here is that when Wallace is in the game Lebron does more himself?
-Oden helps us a little.  Considering he is a rookie and still now 100% healthy that is a positive.  In years to come that should be a positive on the O side and a great positive on the D side.
-Our T-Mac and AI suspicions like this thread.