Trade Drawer Feb 10th Pre-emptive strike edition amended with poll!
by Idog1976 on Feb 9, 2009 9:50 PM PST
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PrintFour team Blockbuster amended:
Milwaukie:
Out: Ramon Sessions, Richard Jefferson
In: Sergio Rodriguez, Atawn Jamison, Martell Webster
Washington:
Out: Caron Butler, Atawn Jamison, Brendon Haywood
In: Amare Stoudemire, Richard Jefferson
Phoenix:
Out: Amare Stoudemire
In: RLEC, Jerryd Bayless, Travis Outlaw
Portland:
Out: Sergio Rodriguez, Martell Webster, Travis Outlaw, RLEC, Jerryd Bayless
In: Ramon Sessions, Caron Butler, Brendon Haywood.
I think this trade works for all parties. We could possibly even figure out some more incentive to throw Milwaukie's way such as draft picks and cash or players from another team. I think it's a no brainer for Washington, Phoenix and Portland.
Let the trade speculation begin!
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Makes zero sense for the Bucks
They get a Point guard that on most teams would be a backup, and an anging PF with a contract that will be crippiling within a couple of seasons. Pretty much, they send out better and younger talent then they get back. So this makes no sense for them.
Have to throw in talent for the Bucks then.
I think it could be worked out. R. Jeff isn’t young talent but Sessions definitely is. Perhaps add in Martell, Sergio, Frye, or and I would hesitate on this, but Batum.
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There is no way Sessions would be leaving Milwaukee without them getting a better PG talent back
I also think the Bucks would love it if they could get their hands on Butler cuz he’s a hometown kid (well Racine, but that’s close enough to Milwaukee).
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I completely agree.
With what Sessions has done the last couple of games, there is no way Milwaukee trades that. Jefferson? Yes, Sessions? No chance.
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what about
rudy+sergio to pheonix instead of bayless and all our rights and a few picks to the bucks
by blackandwite323 on Feb 9, 2009 10:07 PM PST reply actions
I dunno
if we’re getting Sessions back, then we don’t need Bayless as the point of the future, right? So sending Bayless instead of Rudy would make sense.
Sergio + rudy
bayless can back up both the 1 and the 2 giving the lineup more flexibility, he also can get to the lane
by blackandwite323 on Feb 10, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
I amended it for Milwaukie
Washington could trade Amare onward if they wanted. Amare + Jeff + Agent Zero = pretty decent team in the east and a chance at a new start with new guys.
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Not a great shooter or defender
but he gets to the rim, he’s able to finish and pass out well. He’s very good at coming off picks, quickly realizing what play to make.
Second Round Draft Pick.
Yet another steal for Milwaukee. He reminds me of Jerryd Bayless, except with more experience, a better ability to distribute the ball, and a worse outside shot. I think Bayless has more potential, but potential only is good if it is realized. Sessions is better now. And WAY better than a certain #4 pick in 2007, whom many here want (and was also rumored to go to Milwaukee for Sessions, actually). But Luxury Tax or not, Herb Kohl would be an idiot to let Sessions go for that reason alone. John Hammond will find a way to keep him no matter what.
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Whatever the Blazers do...
I hope they learn from the Elton Brand experiment in Philly. Philly has consistently played better without Brand. Brand is a good player and a good guy, but when the offense goes through him, the rest of the team is not as effective. They are good as an uptempo team that slashes and cuts. They are not great doing iso in the half court.
I’m not sure who the analogy is for Brand for the Blazers. A guy like Amare could be that type of a problem. I think some of the PG options could be a problem. Even Jefferson.
Can anyone think of examples where adding a defensive presence actually made a team’s defense worse? Houston with Artest, maybe?
Artest is not the problem there
it’s McGrady going 1-9, shooting long jumpers to avoid driving the lane and injuring himself. It’s Landry, Scola, and McGrady refusing to help on defense. Battier’s injury…
Artest has been great for them this year.
Makes sense... I just couldn't think of any other players traded specifically for their defensive prowess.
I was just wondering if defensive chemistry can be heart as easily as offensive chemistry…. even when adding a talented player. Perhaps defense depends a lot on the weakest link, whereas offense depends on synergy. Different models.
Ben Wallace, however limited offensively, seems to have been a solid defensive contributor wherever he’s gone. Rodman too. But those are pretty superficial examples.
Battier, right?
He was traded for the rights to Rudy Gay. That team was great defensively, but Van Gundy is an excellent coach.
I think Houston would give anything to have Van Gundy back. Rick Adelman is just not the coach that he used to be.
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Artest's shooting numbers are absolutely terrible this year
He’s still helping with his D, but they’d be better off if he never shot the ball.
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I meant on defense
he’s one of the few guys that is actually giving consistent effort.
On offense, he’s been far less than great, for sure.
You are absolutely correct about Artest and McGrady, Cablinasian!
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I vote for "something similar"
I repeat myself, but I think this deal is on KP’s table to decide: Jefferson and Sessions and small filler (Elson/Allen expiring) for RLEC, Travis, Sergio. At least it was, until Sessions got hot again. But a larger variant is imaginable in which we add Frye and the Bucks add Gadzuric for even more cap relief for the ailing Bucks.
* This is a realistic deal that would help both teams and has been speculated about. It’s not sensational, but the huge multi team multi player deals fans like to set up are very rarely coming to fruition.
* There are rumors the Bucks are in trouble, up to a sale of the team by the current Senator owning them.
* ESPN’s Stein has a brief note about the availability of Jefferson and Portland’s interest in him in his Weekend Dime.
* The New Jersey Star Ledger’s beat writer confirms that Jefferson is getting shopped.
* Jason Quick/Joe Freeman said in the Oregonian chat that a deal is talked about with an Eastern Team likely dropping out of the playoffs and rebuilding that gets Portland a point guard and a small forward for Raef and two rotation players.
It doesn’t look like Chicago is shopping Hinrich and Deng anymore (unless they get something major back like Amare). It doesn’t look like Prince is getting shopped. Maybe something better materializes in a three-team trade with Phoenix, but I believe this is a significant deal KP could do if he wanted.
The cake is a lie. Trade the cake!
by Norsktroll on Feb 9, 2009 10:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Your trade looks like a good one for Portland, but
not great for the Bucks unless their only goal is to cut payroll.
Jefferson can be had.
Sessions, however, is increasing his value daily. Outlaw, Rodriguez and cap relief wont pry Sessions from Milwaukee at this point. I think even Charlie Villanueva is more available than Sessions.
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KP
waits too long sometimes on deals…I pray to god the NJ deal for Harris was a lie.
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Fairly simple 3-way trade
Phoenix sends: Amare and Goran Dragic; gets: Tyrus Thomas, LREC, Sergio and Sefolosha
Chicago sends: Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich and Sefolosha; gets: Goran Dragic and Amare
Portland sends: RLEC and Sergio; gets: Kirk Hinrich
shore up our perimeter defense. Amare gets sent out of conference, Suns get their talent and salary relief. Leaves most of our roster intact.
Sefalosha is not valuable...
he’s a fringe NBA player. Hinrich is someone they want to get rid of anyone, due to his contract, and Tyrus is a bust at this point. Not many players suck for three years and then turn it around.
Phoenix is the one getting the short end of the stick, I think.
Chicago
would have a pretty nice first unit:
Rose, Gordon, Deng, Amare, Noah
with Nocioni and Gooden off the bench. Head and shoulders better than they are now.
by BrailleTaser on Feb 9, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
You don't think they'd love to get rid of Hinrich and his contract?
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No
I think Chicago would love to hold onto Hinrich, for pretty much the same reasons we’d like to have him. But I think they’ll have to use something to get these trades off the ground, if they want to get better.
by BrailleTaser on Feb 10, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
I disagree
You want him as your starting point guard, correct? I don’t think the Bulls want to keep 9 million tied up in a backup pg. Hinrich, Thomas, and Sef for Amare is a no brainer.
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Menage trois with Detroit & Phoenix
I know it’s been mentioned before and is probably a long shot but if Phoenix is serious about trading Amare it’s quite possible. The basic parameters of a deal would be Amare to Detroit, RLEC plus 2-3 non starters to Phoenix, and Prince plus filler to Portland. Dumars would only part with Prince for a star, the Suns owner is cheap and would welcome saving a few mil this year with RLEC and even more next year with cheap young players and no luxury tax. Portland gets a top notch perimeter defender with championship experience who makes them better now without sacrificing the future.
How about...
Blazers would need to send a 1st rd pick, and maybe a 2nd rounder or two to DET. Amir could be the back-up PF, is 21years old, and fits in with our window.
Sixty-percent of the time, it works one-hundred percent of the time.
by rudydrops3s on Feb 10, 2009 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
Something along those lines
I can’t see Portland with Kwame Brown. I think Phoenix would probably want frye (hometown product). They’ll probably ask for Bayless too. That would be a tough decision for KP. I like the idea of amir Johnson/Jason Maxielle coming to PDX as a bruiser PF and I can see Barbosa involved possibly.
In KP we trust.
by tylerdurden on Feb 10, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
Kwame's just
an expiring contract. He’s not a trouble-maker, he’s just immature and has a bad rep cause he’s a big-time #1 overall pick bust. Big difference. With Johnson, Kwame’d be the 3rd or 4th PF, or 3rd C (not sure where Shavlik falls). We would not “depend” on Kwame for anything. Heck, Paul Allen may just buy him out right after the trade were done, a la Stevie Franchise.
I’ve been hearing a lot of people say that PHX likes Barbosa, and doesn’t want to trade him. I’m not sure DET would be interested in Bayless, given their committment to Stuckey, and already having Rip.
Sixty-percent of the time, it works one-hundred percent of the time.
Phoenix would want bayless
Phoenix would need a expiring contract 1-2 good young players and a player with all-star potential. I would hope Steve Kerr thinks highly of Sergio and Outlaw but I think he would need more to justify trading Stoudemire. Stars in their prime don’t get traded often. I would hate to part with most of our young guys, especially Bayless but if it brings in Prince and we don’t have to give up one of our top player (right now not potentially) it would be hard to justify.
Also if Phoenix is completely rebuilding they could add Richardson for Wallace/Afflalo and have tons of cap space in 2010. Hard to see Detroit take on so many guards but they may be willing to shift Hamilton or Richardson to the 3 without Prince.
If it's a major deal
I could see the PDX-PHX-CHI 3 way with Amare going to Chicago and Portland netting Deng/Hinrich, PHX getting the cap space and Webster or Outlaw. However, that’s a lot of moving parts (difficult for a deal like that to go through) and as much as KP covets Deng (reportedly) does he really bring more than a healthy Martell, and if yes, how much more? Martell’s injury really was a downer, great shooter and it sounded like his D had been a point of emphasis. Plus, if that Sacramento game was what he could do on a bad wheel (pre-season, I know) I want to see him healthy
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Three team trade with Chicago, Portland and Phoenix seems to be very likely to me. It is rumoured that the blazers called to ask about Amare and I can’t (refuse to) believe that we want him. Therefore I have to conclude that we were asking for someone else. Chicago is a possible destination. Could a three way deal work? Chicago would be awesome with Amare. Portland would love to have Deng and Hinrich. Phoenix can start rebuilding…
by The Thinker on Feb 10, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Did anyone notice during the Blazer/Knicks game
that David Lee has very wienie, poorly defined musculature in his arms? Doesn’t that denote poor training ethic? I wouldn’t trade Shavlik for him.
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Don't worry
NY wouldn’t trade him for Shavlik, either, so it’ll be ok.
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Three way.....Portland, Milwaukie & Phoenix
I am not usually a fan of these and I’m actually leaning towards standing pat at the moment, but what the hell, it is a trade post for a reason.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=275445417271006&teams=21211522&te=&cash=
Phoenix clears cap space and gains a player than can operate away from the key more readily than Amare. Kerr, I’m sure, doesn’t want to get hoodwinked and this is the only team in this deal that I see potentially saying no. But Phoenix does love the $$$ and RLEC is looking sexy as can be right now.
Milwaukie fills the scoring void in the absence of Redd and next season when he is healthy, has a solid inside/outside tandem.
Portland fills the void at SF with a veteran who can focus on defense as well as fill it up offensively when needed. Not having to be relied upon for offense Jefferson is right now due to Redd’s injury, I think he can be a reliable stopper. Batum with savy.
Phoenix would want more
As in, Travis and a first round pick, perhaps. They want to save money, but they don’t want to just give Amare away. They still want to try and win games.
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I think Amare and Skiles would butt heads over defense.
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I liked it better when you were still discussing the relative merits of Sergio vs. Bayless instead of trying to acquire other point guards
The cake is a lie. Trade the cake!
I don't like injury prone centers
Tearing your ACL just by stepping on someone’s foot like Big Al? Breaking your foot like Yao? Come on, that can’t be.
The cake is a lie. Trade the cake!
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Stop with the trade madness!
Do you want to be next year’s phoenix/dallas? Or would you rather be like Utah, which traded Giricek for Korver last year in a minor deal that ended up being a shot in their arm that propelled them to the division title? Call me selfish, but I don’t want our players to become superstars on other teams, especially if it becomes a Devin Harris for Jason Kidd type move that mortgages our future. I think we as Blazer fans are even more virginal when it comes to the playoffs than the players, it has been so long since we’ve seriously been in the playoff hunt that we forgot what that tension was like! The media does nothing but perpetuate this problem, with scoundrels like Canzano flipping from “you got to let the cake bake” analogies to “we are not going to make the playoffs this year without a trade”. We cannot be skittish colts, we must be immovable mountains in the hurricane trade winds.
On a more serious note, I really must say that I am extremly PO with Canzano. It’s bad enough that he cuts off callers who he feels have nothing interesting to say or because they had the testicular fortitude to question his almighty wisdom. What I can’t tolerate is when he gives his arguments on issues w/o even considering the other side’s perspective or anticipating their arguments! For example yesterday he was talking about trades, and he discussed how Travis will never be a starter on this team, so he needs to be traded. He doesn’t even consider the possibility that Travis would be the perfect backup/ 6th man for this team, or the fact that his 4 mil salary coupled with his relatively unique skill of being able to take over games in the 4th quarter makes him an extremely valuable commodity, You can never have too many clutch performers on your team. I also think he has done absolutely no research on the players he thought would be good fits at the 3. Antawn Jamison, for example, is a combo forward who is really best in the 4 spot. Unfortunately, Lamarcus fills that spot for us extremely well, so we don’t really need Jamison to play the 4, and unlike Travis he would not be suited to playing backup minutes at the 4 and the majority at the 3, because he is most suited for playing the 4. Anyway, I just wanted to rant about the idiocy of John Canzano and why we must be patient with this team, and not pull the cake out of the oven before it’s fully baked.
Hurricane's are by definition not trade winds.
Otherwise, I’m with you.
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Haywood is out for the year
so he can’t be involved in any trades! Plus I’d rather keep our roster intact if it means trading Bayless. What might be interesting is the previously mentioned idea to trade for Shaq. We could trade Raef, Frye and Przybilla for Shaq and Amundson. It works see- Trade ID #4992096
Fair trade since they are making exactly the same salary and our guy has the higher PER
The cake is a lie. Trade the cake!
by Norsktroll on Feb 10, 2009 8:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
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I cant take much more of this
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.... on the list
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It's the trade drawer man!
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by Idog1976 on Feb 10, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Not really
Going into the Trade Drawer is like that. Having these dumb things going up 12 hours early and having so many of them is like Castle Adult Superstore commercial during a Blazers game.
I like frogs.
I know you are dragline and all
but it was up about 2 hours early. Not my fault people are putting up posts outside the trade drawer.
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by SELFDESTRUCTABLE on Feb 10, 2009 10:27 AM PST reply actions
From Chad Ford's Chat today
Celo, San Francisco: Have you heard whether Portland has considered going after Caron Butler? Would the Wizards be willing to part with him if the Blazers took on Etan Thomas’ contract as well?
Chad Ford: (1:26 PM ET ) It would be something the Blazers would have to look at. I know they’ve been looking at everyone from Mike Miller to Richard Jefferson. Butler is probably better than both of those guys. And yes, I think that Raef LaFrentz’s expiring contract is enough bait to lure one of those big time players. That’s why I remain pretty bullish that the Blazers will move LaFrentz before the deadline.
Jefferson, Butler, Miller
Seems like the Blazers might get one of those guys. The stats say that Butler is the worst defender of the three (not that I trust any stats on defensive ability), but the best passer. I think Jefferson is my favorite of the three, but that’s a very uninformed opinion. Why Jefferson, because he’s the best defender of the three.
Doesn’t seem that anything will happen with the Suns.
Hmmm
my eyeball test tells me that Butler is a FAR FAR superior defender to Mike Miller. Miller is about as tough as a poptart. Butler is very good defender, and often draws the tougher matchup, while they stick Miller on a guy like Nic Batum.
I would also say that Jefferson isn’t as good a defender… I dunno. defensive stats are odd.
I put a trade similar to that in the last trade drawer
focusing on butler and thomas. We would have to give up someone pretty decent with RLEC tho
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Feb 10, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Bayless and Batum would be a good start.
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Perfect world?
Based on current trade rumors?
Something like This
Blazers get Prince and Hinrich. This trade would obviously have to followed by a trade that included one of Portland’s PG’s, and the Bulls would have to actually be willing to trade someone for once. But other than the Bulls, this trade works out for the Suns, (RLEC, Outlaw, and Thomas +some picks and cash), Detoit, (Amar’e and Barbosa for Prince and wallace) and PDX ofcourse gets two players who fit perfectly.
Actually while typing the previous paragraph, I realized that everyone but PDX prolly doesn’t do that trade, but in a perfect world, given who has been in trade rumors, Portland would come away with Captain Kirk and Prince.
Love that idea...
I don’t see your particular version going through simply because Portland is going to have to give up a lot more than RLEC + Outlaw to net Hinrich and Prince. Here is my crappy attempt at this trade.
The obvious problem is that 4 team deals never happen, but screw it, we are in fantasy land right now…
Why chicago does it: Talent-wise this is pretty much a wash for Chicago. They turn Gooden into Rasheed Wallace, Hinrich into Blake, and they get a young prospect in Afflalo to help balance it out. They also get out of Hinrich’s long contract and save themselves some serious money over the next 4 years.
Why Detroit does it: I am actually not sure Detroit does this deal, it really depends on how badly they want Amare. Wallace + Prince + Afflalo for Amare is a pretty fair trade considering they get a poor man’s Prince back in Matt Barnes which would help seal the void Prince leaves. They also get players back that can matchup a little better with IIversons more uptempo tendencies…
Why Pheonix does it: This whole trade idea is based on the premise that Pheonix really wants cap space and young talent. RLEC + Outlaw + Frye/Diogu + Sergio/Bayless seems right up their alley. You might have to give up Bayless to make it attractive enough, maybe even draft picks, but I suspect KP would much prefer keeping Bayless and parting with Sergio. Plus, is there better a mentor for Sergio out there than Steve Nash?
Why Portland does it: Because I am obsessed with the idea of getting Prince. He is the model to which we measure all sf’s as far as how well they would fit here in Portland. On one end of the spectrum, you have Darius MIles, on the other end you have Tayshaun Prince. Everyone else falls somewhere in between there. I also believe Hinrich might resurrect his play on this team. Right now it is tough to argue that he would be a significant upgrade over Blake, but I can feel that it is true in my gut. Both players bring better defense and we get a sweet backup pf rental for the season in Drew Gooden. Goran Dragic is filler for salary reasons…
So in conclusion, I can’t believe I just wasted a half hour doing that. Get a life emic!!!
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Boom!
Bayless and Reaf for Ellis and Jackson (in a 3 way)… Cause if the Blazers trade Bayless, they need to get some crazy back.
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I want to take this trade
after look at Ellis and Jackson’s contracts…
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I want to take this trade
BACK! Ellis and Jackson’s contracts are just too long.
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