there is a line here and we know a player who is well beyond that line. His name is Rasheed Wallace and he literally treats the refs like garbage and does not get calls. Quite the opposite in fact, he gets technicals.

but, it seems to me Roy was starting to get superstar calls until he spoke out in public about it. That stretch of five games that culminated with the 52 point game he was getting to the line times a game on average. But, within a week of mentioning that it was great to get calls like Kobe, Wade, and Lebron the calls seemed to disappear.

For example, last game he only ended up with 6fts on a 32 point scoring night and if I recall correctly they all came in the second half. That’s just crazy… the last 5 games he has averaged 3.8 attempts or 4.6 attempts per game over the last 10.

Perhaps the “whining” is from the frustration of tasting the superstar calls for 5 games then being dropped back into the rules of the game. The difference statistically between the 52 point night and last night was two made baskets and a differential of 15 fts… 14-27 fg, 5-7 3P, 19-21 ft compared to 12-27 fg, 3-4 3P, 5-6 ft (oh, I know numbers are not the whole as well as I know that it was a very different Roy out there against OKC compared to that Suns game)

I guess my point is I don’t think the whining is working… it seems like you are right that the yell has pulled in a few calls, but I just don’t see that many

he was getting to the line 13 times a game during that five game scoring streak.

i dont remember where i read it (maybe Truehoop?) but he talked to a ref about the exact thing that Brandon does and said that it hardly ever plays into factor whether they blow the whistle or not. Refs are constantly audibly berated by players, fans, and coaches, i am sure it is second nature to tone them all out.

all they need is visual evidence to call a foul, hearing bodies crash probably wont do much ( except for loud slaps)

… the Drexler-led Blazers and Addelman crying an awful lot about fouls?

… and Sabonis whenever he played Shaq?

I don’t like the crying. It’s one of the very few things about Roy’s game I don’t like and it seems to me he’s pretty much done it ever since he got into the league.

much more when the team is down and he is frustrated. He does complain about missed calls much more now then he used to, but the HEY thing he yells he has done for at least since last season. He should never stop doing this. But every time he lags getting back because he has turned to the official to complain, I just hang my head. As long as we dont get beat back and scored on as a result, I guess Im ok with it, because it WILL get him a call or two later on, and every point is gonna count.

Until the squeaky wheel becomes annoying. Keep it up though, whatever helps the team, as long as it is helping. Its what the league has become – especially the elite teams. The refs are human and know that they miss alot of calls, and screw up plenty that they do make. You always see them making a terrible call on one end of the floor, realizing it, and making another iffy one on the other to even things up.

It is not new.

I dont like it. But I understand it. He is just doing what all the superstars do to him when he guards them. And it gets them calls so why not.
But at the same time, it hurts him, its showing the refs up and he is getting less calls then he did at the end of last season i think