We Need Change
Defense is preventing the opponent from scoring. By this measure, Portland ranks 24th in the league in defense. Opponents have shot a blistering 46.7% against us. We are DEAD LAST amongst playoff teams. Defensive stalwarts such as Chicago and Toronto are ahead of us. Even the youngest team (Golden State) in the NBA ranks ahead of us.
Obviously, its not the players or the youth on this team. We have the talents and height to be an effective defensive team. With the starting lineup of Oden, Aldridge, Batum, Roy, and Sergio, the only defensive liability is Sergio. If we start Bayless, there would be no defensive liability.
So, why are we so awful on defense? Simply, it is the system Nate employs. This team can't handle the pick n roll because for whatever coaching reasons, the players have no compunction switching over 80% of the time. This pushes our big men on the perimeter and/or gets them in foul troubles guarding speedy point guards, i.e. Greg Oden. Switching off makes both our perimeter and interior defense that much weaker because players are out of their natural positions. We have big men on the perimeters and our guards defending big men down low. It is no wonder why opponents have a high field goal percentage against us.
The scouting report is out on how to beat the Trailblazers and every team is reading it verbatim. Nate must recognize this and make drastic change in his system. I am not calling to fire Nate right now. However, unless Nate adjust his philosophy, I fear we need another coach to take us to the next level.
- 42.50 Boston
- 42.51 Cleveland
- 43.07 Orlando
- 44.31 Denver
- 44.67 Miami
- 44.76 Detroit
- 44.87 LA Lakers
- 44.98 Atlanta
- 45.07 Dallas
- 45.14 Philadelphia
- 45.15 Chicago
- 45.22 Houston
- 45.28 Charlotte
- 45.30 Phoenix
- 45.53 Milwaukee
- 45.69 San Antonio
- 45.79 Utah
- 45.88 Toronto
- 45.90 New Orleans
- 45.95 Indiana
- 45.99 LA Clippers
- 46.27 New Jersey
- 46.49 Golden State
- 46.71 Portland
- 46.92 Minnesota
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Defense is hard for kids . . .
whether at the NBA level or the local Y.
I loved getting the young hoppity kid who would
throw up shots on O and not get correct position
or communicate on defense. Easy buckets !
It's GO time !
Change will come
but probably not this year.
I happen to trust KP’s evaluation of the coaching staff and the team’s progress—and I suspect that Pritchard is more happy than glad. His Master Plan isn’t about this year, even if we have to watch the occasional travesty.
For me,
it’s the pick and roll defense that cheeses me off. Switching is something you should do only to make sure that no one is uncovered. You should fight as hard as you can through the screen/pick to stay on your original dude.
The Blazers’ philosophy is to accept the switch as inevitable even on the perimeter. Are you telling me that Bayless isn’t fast enough to go around the screen to guard his man? Is 3 s of a free man worse than Oden picking up a cheap foul trying to stop a fast dude from getting to the hoop?
I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t really know that much about basketball. I never played organized ball and don’t play as much recreationally as I’d like. However, I do know that the goal is to put the ball in the hoop and the easiest way to do that is to get a good shot and the best way to do that is to exploit a mismatch. It seems that you want to create/exploit mismatches on the offensive end and minimize mismatches on the defensive end. The Blazers seem to welcome mismatches on the defensive end.
On this note...
I’ve been watching college basketball all morning. None of the teams I have seen switch on the pick and roll. They all have the secondary player stay with the ball handler long enough for the original defender to get back, so like one second.
I already did my part for change...
…I voted for Obama
"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." - Bill Simmons 6/26/08
We should go after Calderon...
We would change immediately for the short run and long run with him. I don’t know why Paul Allen just doesn’t shell out the cash and bring him in. Bring him and Jamario Moon in for RLEC+Sergio+Outlaw and this team might actually have a 3 year championship window rather than the current 50 year window with the current squad.
For the Last TIme
It is not the players we have, but the system we have. It is Nate’s system. We have the horses to be a good defensive team. I don’t think Calderon is considered a defensive player.
Apparently, the intent of the post went straight past you.
uh??? I'm challenging your initial assumption...
it is the players that need to be changed…. a coach can only do so much!!!
Coach preaches defense, but few play defense…. what needs to change? The players… calling for another coach is ridiculous and near-sighted. Nate was part of the Olympic Team, and the players weren’t – go figure. The players I suggest trading don’t play defense. Calderon plays much better D than Sergio and Blake. Moon is no comparison to Outlaw defensively.
I disagree
It takes a while to become a good defensive player and it is a team-wide effort. One player’s defense is pretty useless it’s more about team defensive principles, which take time to soak in especially with young players. Give them time and evaluate the situation as a whole not cherry-picking statistics and using a couple of games as examples.
You must be new to basketball
Because coaching is very important in basketball. It could mean a difference between being a championship caliber team and an early exit playoff team. Being one of the assistant coaches on the Olympic team is a far cry from being a head coach in the NBA. You are coaching the most talented ensemble of players in the world. Anything short of the gold medal is considered an upset. When he was coaching the Sonics, that team was weak on defense too. Go figure.
It is time to stop blaming the players and look at the coach. You are telling me Oden, Aldridge, Batum, and Roy are poor defenders?
Haha Calderon
a defensive player? That’s a joke. Let’s step back and let the season play out. I think a lot of people here consider Nate a fool who doesn’t recognize problems this team has. He knows and he’ll continue to push the players and maybe after the season we worry about making HUGE adjustments. Small tweaks can be made during the season but system changes need to wait until the off-season.
PA can't
I don’t know why Paul Allen just doesn’t shell out the cash and bring him in.
theres a thing called the salary cap preventing him. We couldn’t get Calderon last year when he was the 2nd string pg…I doubt we can get him now.
also isnt a 50 year championship window better than a 3 year one? that’d be awesome to contend for championships for 50 years.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Feb 7, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure this stat isn't lost on Nate McMillan
and I doubt there’s some magical formula coach X is going to implement that will solve our woes. We’re playing rookies. Lots of rookies. Therefore there will be mistakes. Lots of mistakes.
For me, I’m looking at the postives and enjoying things like our reeediculous rebounding rate and stuff like that. Who cares if they shoot a couple percent points higher than they should if we don’t give ’em any second chance points.
It all balances out.
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
Almost all of our players time in the NBA has been with the Blazers
With that said I think is a great coach but he doesnt seem to be able to get these guys to defend the pick and roll. Was at my sons high school basketball game and they did a better job on the pick and roll then the blazers. I think that a few players with more experience (other coaches) would be a major advantage to this team. This team needs a vocal leader
"If we start Bayless, there would be no defensive liability."
Anyone know the over/under on how long people will be spouting this until reality catches up with us and shatters that notion? Anyone see the game last night? Anyone see the previous 10? Bayless is not a defensive presence. For Bayless fans, I’ll say ‘Not yet a presence’ but really since the above quote addresses the ‘right now,’ where potential is irrelevant.
"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."
Bayless has had some terrible defensive games
He’s also had some excellent ones, most notably the home Pistons game. He at least tries hard on D, which is more than we can say for most of the team.
However, there’s little doubt that putting Bayless in the starting lineup would NOT solve our defensive problems.
Boomshakalaka
He's probably a better perimeter defender than some of our guys.
Plus….what ref is going to call fouls on the President?
I would call a foul
on Obama for excessive pork …$1 trillion dollars worth.
But I digress, no politics on blazeredge.
But just imagine the trade possibilities of a
BOEC.
by tmundal on Feb 7, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i wasn't trying to bring up politics
just making a funny off of the post title =)
The end is in the beginning and yet I go on....
-Beckett
Pork is what the Repubs gave the banks for their bailouts and bonuses.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
It's difficult to evaluate
How much would a different coaching staff change the defensive performance of the Blazers? It’s a hard question to evaluate. We don’t get to compare the Blazers with this coaching staff and another coaching staff playing the same teams over and over.
What do we know:
-The Blazers are not a good defensive team. Any way you slice it, they are below average. About the only thing they do well is get offensive rebounds.
-In general, teams that are good at rebounding are good at defense. For example, the Celtics are the best rebounding team and the best defensive team. More generally, the correlation between rebound % and defensive efficiency is .55 (pretty good). This makes sense directly because you need the ball to be able to score. It also makes sense because usually teams with big, strong interiors rebound well and are hard to score on. The Blazers, however, are the largest “bad” outlier of this relationship; they are much worse defensively than one would expect from how they rebound. What this says to me is that the Blazers have the athletes to defend, but aren’t able to do it.
-In general, teams that are good at rebounding are good at defense. For example, the Celtics are the best rebounding team and the best defensive team. More generally, the correlation between rebound % and defensive efficiency is .55 (pretty good). This makes sense directly because you need the ball to be able to score. It also makes sense because usually teams with big, strong interiors rebound well and are hard to score on. The Blazers, however, are the largest “bad” outlier of this relationship; they are much worse defensively than one would expect from how they rebound. What this says to me is that the Blazers have the athletes to defend, but aren’t able to do it.
-I could write pretty much the same thing about the relationship between offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency. Again, the Blazers are bad outliers. Better offensive teams tend to be better defensive teams. Better athletes and coaching are better on O and D. The Blazers, however, are a good offensive team, a good rebounding team, but a terrible defensive team. They are the only team like that.
-Of course, younger teams are worse at defense than older teams. The Blazers are young, so there’s nothing that can be done about that. On the other hand, in general, younger teams are worse at offense AND defense. In fact, age IS NOT more strongly correlated with defensive efficiency than offensive efficiency. And, offensive efficiency and rebound are better predictors of defensive efficiency than age. So age might be part of the problem, but it’s not the whole problem.
-Beyond that, what can we say? Does the team have athletes that are better suited to offense than defense? There isn’t any definitely evidence one way or another, since just about everyone on the team has been a Blazer their entire careers. So, we don’t know if the current roster is full of “soft”, finesse guys or if the coaching system produces soft looking defense. The available comparisons DO NOT suggest that playing for the Blazers under Nate significantly improves a player’s deffensive ratings:
According to 82games.com, the player Blake defends this season is giving up a PER of 15.3
http://www.82games.com/0809/08POR1.HTM#bypos
And Blake on the Denver nuggets gave up a PER of 14.8.
http://www.82games.com/0607/06DEN3C.HTM
When guarding PGs, Jack yield about the same PER last year for the Blazers as this year for the Indiana pacers, 16.8 and 16.9. Jack did a bit better defending SG for the Blazers (13.5) than defending them for Indiana (15.3).
http://www.82games.com/0809/08IND3.HTM#bypos
http://www.82games.com/0708/07POR3C.HTM
My gut tells me that combining the current roster with a different defensive system could improve their numbers. There’s no iron clad evidence that that’s true, but I think when you break things down and look at the roster and what it does well and what it does poorly, scheme and coaching are the biggest culprits.
What should be done? Schematically, I’d like to see more traps of pick and rolls. I’d like to see more double teaming of hot players.
More important than changing schemes/tactics, however, is how defense is coached to the players. I’d suggest that Allen and KP go out and do everything they can to hire the most talented defensive coach in the association. Be as aggressive and creative in finding coaching as they are in acquiring talent on the floor. In reality, KP and Allen should have a bigger advantage in acquiring coaching talent than acquiring playing talent because there are fewer constraints in the coaching ranks. Get it done, KP!
You want change?
Suggest to Paul Allen that he convert his entire net worth to nickels, dimes and quarters.
by knickfan on Feb 7, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Haahahahahha!
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

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