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A rod the nba and steriods

did anyone seriously think arod never used steriods? i have said it before and will again what other sport besides mabey football do players get drafted and the expectation is that they wont be effective or play to their potential untill they bulk up. steriods in the nba is the biggest scandle yet to come, mark my words.  remember how stupid we used to be with mark mcguire gasping at his brute stregnth and size. doesnt it seem familiarly like the attention and homage we pay to players like.. dwight h? it is seems too good to be true.... it probably is and common sense is you look at everyother sport and there are similiar problems with drugs, why wouldnt it be in the nba.  sure every now and then u get a greg oden or a shaq who needs to bulk down but 95% of the time its the other way around.  is any other sport and hushed and controlled as the nba.  i think the nba is alittle more tight with its coverups, just look at the ref scandles and how they blew that one over. mabey alot of the injuries can be attributed to performance enhancing drugs or it seems when players come off such drugs.  closer to home, mabey the problem with the blazers are they are not taking enough steriods. can you imagine lamarcus on the juice, or better broy, travis or nic.  oden doesnt need any but he could use some amphetimines. 

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i have long thought HGH and other PEDs were used by nba players. all you get in response when you ask about them, as you would expect, is blanket denials.

by Ben Golliver on Feb 7, 2009 11:13 AM PST reply actions  

Why isn't HGH legal?

What is wrong with using something that speeds along your recovery?

It's not offensive until someone reads it.

by Dragline on Feb 7, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm serious

It’s not a big deal. There is nothing wrong with getting healthy. They should band cortizone and pain killers too.

It's not offensive until someone reads it.

by Dragline on Feb 7, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

HGH has zero effect on recovery, especially not if you take one shot as some of these baseball players claimed was all they did

It stimulates cell and muscle growth in people who have problems with that: Children with growth disorders and adults with rare hormone imbalances/deficiencies and diseases. It shouldn’t be used by athletes with normal health even if they are injured. Never.

The cake is a lie. Trade the cake!

by Norsktroll on Feb 7, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Are the even doing blood tests in the NBA?

I know the don’t in the NFL, after listening to an assistant commissioner before the Super Bowl who plainly said he thinks urine tests are sufficient. Ha ha. You would never catch a track and field athlete or cyclist or cross country skier using modern performance enhancing drugs with that. Plus, the NFL doesn’t use an independent lab, so even if they catch someone they could keep it under cover unlike what the WADA uses. And their first suspension is 4 games, whereas in track and field it’s 2 years. I really fear in the NBA it’s not better, looking even at the bodies of say a young Shaq in college and an old Shaq now who already is a guy easy to gain bulk is a frightening difference that is hard to explain with training alone.

The cake is a lie. Trade the cake!

by Norsktroll on Feb 7, 2009 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

They. Stupid spelling.

The cake is a lie. Trade the cake!

by Norsktroll on Feb 7, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

According to Larry Coon

Players are subject to up to 4 random samplings during the season. This of course leaves the offseason open to use of PEDs and as long as the player cycles off in time the player runs almost no risk of being caught.

by tingeyga on Feb 7, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Im sure lots of guys are using juice....

can you blame them? If there was no way to get caught why wouldnt they?
Contrary to what fans think sports is huge business with millions of dollars at stake. I dont condone it and dont want steroids in sports but when i hear of some superstar using i dont get angry. If i was in their spot I would probaly use too.

by blazerchamp on Feb 7, 2009 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

I agree to an extent..

People make a huge deal about doping in cycling… Umm… there is no way most mortals could ride a bike approx 100 miles a day for three weeks like in the tour de france, without having some sort of chemical help.

I don’t think doping should be totally allowed, but I don’t think it should surprise anyone when these guys who have tremendous pressure on them to perform, are looking for an edge.

Not sure what the nba’s policy is, but if meth heads can beat UA tests with simple tricks, you can be damn sure that pro athletes can beat all but the most stringent tests

by tmundal on Feb 7, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

you didn't mention LeBron

At least I don’t think you mentioned LeBron. I did not read your fanpost very carefully because frankly it was hard to read with all the typos and misspellings and monuments to a failed education system.

But what about LeBron? When i think of steroids and the NBA, the first players I think of are Corey Magette, last year’s Nene, and LeBron. Those guys have overinflated muscles. Maybe that is their natural body type. Maybe not.

On a contrary note, maybe steroids don’t enhance basketball performance all that much. I wonder if muscle bulk is really that advantageous in basketball. Look at Tayshaun and Durant. Those guys are skinny as reeds but they are elite players. I guess maybe some players’ games are enhanced with muscle bulk, but clearly others’ would not be.

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by dwarfgoper on Feb 7, 2009 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

Teyshaun and Durant have uncanny speed and awareness.

Any player who relies on the post at any time needs to be strong.

Charles Barkely was not terribly fast, did not have amazing handles, and was short for his position, yet on the single best collection of Basketball players in the history of Basketball he was the leading scorer and rebounder.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Feb 7, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

although i dont like naming names

without proof. Look how much lebron will make next year. Its a good investment. Although at the same time its a bad example for my kids. I dont want them using at all even if they were good enough to make millions.

by blazerchamp on Feb 7, 2009 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

There are three separate questions when dealing with performance enhancing drugs

1) is it dangerous?
2) does it give an athlete an “unfair advantage”?
3) is it legal?

Any medicinal substance probably should be determined to be dangerous under #1, until shown otherwise. And even safe things (like cortisone) can be dangerous if administered improperly—how many times do you hear of coaches/trainers injecting painkillers into an athlete and sending them back out to play, despite an injury that should send them to the locker room?

The question of unfair advantage, is really up to the sport. If the NBA banned giving players Tylenol, then players using Tylenol in defiance of the ban would be cheating. Many sports have chosen to ban things which don’t meet criteria #1, making their use cheating under criteria #2.

Finally, the law likes to get involved—use of illegal substances probably should be considered cheating, as there is the presumption of unfairness.

by EngineerScotty on Feb 7, 2009 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

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