by full throttle.

i have long thought HGH and other PEDs were used by nba players. all you get in response when you ask about them, as you would expect, is blanket denials.

I know the don’t in the NFL, after listening to an assistant commissioner before the Super Bowl who plainly said he thinks urine tests are sufficient. Ha ha. You would never catch a track and field athlete or cyclist or cross country skier using modern performance enhancing drugs with that. Plus, the NFL doesn’t use an independent lab, so even if they catch someone they could keep it under cover unlike what the WADA uses. And their first suspension is 4 games, whereas in track and field it’s 2 years. I really fear in the NBA it’s not better, looking even at the bodies of say a young Shaq in college and an old Shaq now who already is a guy easy to gain bulk is a frightening difference that is hard to explain with training alone.

can you blame them? If there was no way to get caught why wouldnt they?
Contrary to what fans think sports is huge business with millions of dollars at stake. I dont condone it and dont want steroids in sports but when i hear of some superstar using i dont get angry. If i was in their spot I would probaly use too.

At least I don’t think you mentioned LeBron. I did not read your fanpost very carefully because frankly it was hard to read with all the typos and misspellings and monuments to a failed education system.

But what about LeBron? When i think of steroids and the NBA, the first players I think of are Corey Magette, last year’s Nene, and LeBron. Those guys have overinflated muscles. Maybe that is their natural body type. Maybe not.

On a contrary note, maybe steroids don’t enhance basketball performance all that much. I wonder if muscle bulk is really that advantageous in basketball. Look at Tayshaun and Durant. Those guys are skinny as reeds but they are elite players. I guess maybe some players’ games are enhanced with muscle bulk, but clearly others’ would not be.

without proof. Look how much lebron will make next year. Its a good investment. Although at the same time its a bad example for my kids. I dont want them using at all even if they were good enough to make millions.

1) is it dangerous?
2) does it give an athlete an “unfair advantage”?
3) is it legal?

Any medicinal substance probably should be determined to be dangerous under #1, until shown otherwise. And even safe things (like cortisone) can be dangerous if administered improperly—how many times do you hear of coaches/trainers injecting painkillers into an athlete and sending them back out to play, despite an injury that should send them to the locker room?

The question of unfair advantage, is really up to the sport. If the NBA banned giving players Tylenol, then players using Tylenol in defiance of the ban would be cheating. Many sports have chosen to ban things which don’t meet criteria #1, making their use cheating under criteria #2.

Finally, the law likes to get involved—use of illegal substances probably should be considered cheating, as there is the presumption of unfairness.