Game 48 Recap: Blazers 99, Mavericks 104
General Observations
Back in high school I used to have this recurring anxiety dream where I had finished my paper for English class (taught by a very good teacher who also happened to be a surly, old curmudgeon who didn't brook any late assignments or substandard work) but I could not find where I had stored it in my locker. As the clock ticked down to the opening bell I would dig frantically through the pile of books and homework and lunches, thinking maybe I had put it one place but then remembering that it must be in another. Tick...tick...tick... "There it is! No, wait...that was the last paper." Tick...tick...tick... "It must be right here! Oh, hi gorgeous redhead on whom I have a pressing and most advanced crush. Hmmmm...what was I doing? Oh yeah." Tick...tick...tick... "Aha! I found it! It was on the top shelf all along! And with thirty seconds to spare!!! Now I've just got to sprint to...hey! What am I doing standing here in my underwear?!?"
This game was like that dream.
We actually started out the game fine offensively. The Mavericks couldn't stop us early. Lamarcus, Sergio, Roy, Bayless, Batum, Travis...everybody got into the act. But you knew--KNEW--we were going to get in big trouble soon because our defense was atrocious. You remember the part of the game preview that said, "We'd better have good point-of-attack defense because if we don't then we'll be scrambling and out of position and you can kiss the opponent's field goal percentage and offensive rebounding goodbye?" Well, Dallas only got 5 offensive rebounds so we did OK there but that whole field goal percentage thing was nasty. The Mavericks are a good offensive team. We let them shoot a hair above 55% for the game. At one point in the first quarter they were 10-15 from the field. We made great shooters out of guys who don't shoot, let alone their stars. This problem never got solved.
But before we get to that, let's talk about the second quarter. You could have stuck a little orange sticker on it, marked it 5-cents, put it out on your lawn, and every old geezer and amateur collector in town would have passed it by with an upturned nose. I firmly believe that people who take their pets out to the back roads and dump them are some of the biggest jerks on the planet. But if that second quarter were in my house we'd be loading up the pickup as we speak. Actually that would probably be too cruel to the wilderness. You could tie that thing in a sack and throw it in the river and the river would throw it right back. The Blazers were to defense what Hudson Hawk was to Bruce Willis movies. The offense was more isolated than the chem geek at the Winter Formal. The Blazers hit 7 total shots, Travis Outlaw's six-foot pull-up was the closest to the rim by far, and the only assists were on a pair of three-pointers. We didn't draw any foul shots either. Meanwhile the Mavericks feasted on 30-points' worth of Blazer largesse. We dug a 14 point hole in the period from which we never escaped.
The offense actually came back in the second half. We started getting a little more penetration and hitting jumpers. Aldridge, Oden, Roy, Bayless, and Outlaw all came through in the third period. Ditto in the fourth with Rudy Fernandez taking Oden's place. But the defense still smelled like a month-old Gordita most of the way. Most teams look for matchups to exploit, figuring that if your power forward can't guard theirs they have an advantage. The Blazers have revolutionized that concept for the opponent. If you have a mismatch against any Portland player you can just run screens until you get them matched up against you. The Blazers' point guard on your 7-foot power forward? No problem. A center against your point out on the perimeter? You got it! Call in the next 12 minutes (because you know we can't do this all day) and we'll throw in a case of ineffective double-teams, three or four instances of slow interior rotation on drivers, and a lifetime supply of not getting out to your shooters. Regular readers will know this is not a new phenomenon for the Blazers. But the Mavericks with their Dirk Nowitzkis and their Jason Kidds and Jason Terrys make it painfully obvious. How many times can you see Jerryd Bayless on Nowitzki before you throw your hands up in disgust? How many times can you see a Portland double-team escorting an opposing driver down the lane like they were X-Wings trying to destroy the Death Star (and then see slow rotation to compensate and no secondary rotation after that) before you start to scream at your fancy, new TV for bringing this all to you in glorious, unmistakable high-definition? The dish feeds it in at 1080i (the "i" standing for "irritating") and then the set upgrades it to 1080p (meaning full-on "p.o.'ed").
And here's the thing. For all of this--all of the isolation plays, all of the craptacular containment, all of the blown rotations and foolish switches and lazy transition defense and hot Dallas shooting--the Blazers still had a legitimate chance to take this game. I've watched this game for a long time and I'm well-familiar with the NBA catch-up phenomenon, where a team will be behind by a dozen or more and then get within 5 or 6 before the leading team just accelerates away laughing. This wasn't that game. Dallas just invited the Blazers to seize the momentum and run away with it. They issued multiple invitations, in fact.
"Please, Portland...we've had our fun and scored a lot but it's your turn. Take the lead and demoralize us."
"No, no. Really, we couldn't."
"Oh please! We've been to the Big Dance before and you guys haven't made the playoffs in the last 5 years. It's only fair."
"No, you've been such good hosts we feel we'd be taking advantage."
"Not at all! We want you to walk away with the win. It'll keep your streak going!"
"Tut, tut. You have a streak going too. Don't be modest."
"Now, now. It's only three games. Nothing remarkable."
"Don't put yourselves down like that! Three games is nothing to sneeze at."
"But compared to where we used to be..."
"Now, see? That's the problem right there. Don't look back, look forward! Chin up! It's a new day! We've been awfully bad sports climbing back to within five points. Have a layup and a wide-open three. That will invigorate your spirits!"
"Oh Portland, why can't we play you every night?"
And that's pretty much how it went. The Blazers would get within four or five and then immediately cede the momentum and a ton of points back to the Mavs. That shot to take it to two or three wouldn't be a bad look, it would just rattle out in taunting fashion. Everything was an inch or a second off, right down to the end of the game when Rick Carlisle subbed out his starters for the end-game ovation and Portland promptly sunk a three, stole it, and sunk another one causing him to have to bring them back in. The recipe was simple: foul for possession and hope they miss free throws. Except we fouled before they inbounded, giving them free throws and possession back. Twice. Even so Rudy Fernandez had three free throws to get us close enough to glimpse a miracle comeback shot and...and...and...he missed one. Best free throw shooter on the team too. That's nothing against Rudy. That was just the night we had.
Individual Notes
Brandon Roy had an amazing statistical game with 10-20 shooting for 26 points plus 7 boards and 7 assists. The guy kept us close. He also had 5 turnovers and missed some of those critical layups and shots. You can't demand better than 50% shooting without being callous. But we've all seen nights when Roy was just barely out of step and despite the production this was pretty close to one of them. He wanted to take us over the top and just...couldn't...quite...make it.
Lamarcus Aldridge had a similar night to Roy's. 8-16 shooting, 21 points, 5 boards, 3 steals, 1 block. It was good. But there were one too many turn-around fading jumpers when going to the hole would have been better. It was a good game, just not the flat-out great game we needed to seize this one.
Dirk Nowitzki, Brandon Bass, Jason Terry, and Jason Kidd all fried our fritters. A little more defensive leadership from our two stars would have helped.
Greg Oden looked like he was cemented to the floor tonight. Everything he did was a little s...l...o...w. He never really got in rhythm. He did manage to cut the fouls down but he didn't contribute that much outside of keeping the Dallas centers off of the boards. (Which he did very well.) 6 points, 4 rebounds in 21 minutes. Mark my words: the keywords for Oden's development into next year are going to be mobility and recognition.
Both Batum and Sergio got overwhelmed out there. The problem with inexperience isn't necessarily that you cause breakdowns (though that did happen, particularly in Sergio's case). It's that when breakdowns happen they take you unaware and leave you paralyzed like one more domino in the line.
Both Travis Outlaw and Jerryd Bayless had great scoring nights off the bench. The isolation-style offense favored each and Bayless showed some blistering speed and fantastic finishes tonight. Jerryd also had a couple of really nice assists on his way to 4 total but also had 4 turnovers and 5 fouls. He played 34 minutes, shot 6-9, and ended up with 14 points and 4 rebounds. Travis played 33, shot 5-10, had 4 rebounds and 4 assists, and finished with 13 points.
Joel Przybilla covered for Oden with 6 rebounds and 3 blocks, two of them show-stopping. He got left out on the perimeter against guards too but he recovered better.
Rudy did well enough, hitting 2-3 threes and 4-5 free throws for 12 points in 25 minutes. He wasn't having any more defensive luck than the rest of the team but that's the way it goes.
Final Thoughts
The Blazers weren't quite ready to step up tonight, which is understandable and expected I suppose. It's hard to see a game that was open to plundering go by like that. This kind of night won't keep them out of the playoffs, but it does show why they're not yet ready to be a threat in the playoffs yet. There's a difference between good and excellent which this team has yet to learn.
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For some reason he was doing that in the open thread
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 4, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
posting from a phone with terrible predictive text?
by Ben Golliver on Feb 4, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
If you say so
I don’t have a fancy internet phone.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 4, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
Dave
We’re playing four rookies, and the rest of the roster (sans Przybilla and a healthy Blake) is very young. Should we be expecting this kind of defensive ineptitude? I guess it happens with young players, but it sure is frustrating.
i mean… We’re in the zone and Przybilla ends up guarding their guard by the three point line. How does this happen? It’s a zone!
To be fair
the Mavs both know how to exploit us and have players at multiple positions who can do so. It’s not like you can just concentrate on Nowitzki. And by the way, Dirk is one of the nastiest players to run around in any offensive set. He’s a walking mismatch already. So it’s kind of expected. But that doesn’t make it any easier to watch.
To deal with screens you HAVE to love contact and grit and hustle and all-out going for it. The Blazers have those qualities intermittently.
—Dave
I think Dallas might be the worst matchup for Portland in the playoffs, barring San Antonio and LA.
They were just toying with our defense. Terry, Kidd, and Nowitzki are all smart players who knew how to get the mismatch.
It’s just disheartening to see our point guard actually fight through a screen, only to have the big man get confused and double team the ballhandler, leaving the pick-setter completely open. At some point, it will get better but… it’s not fun to watch at the moment.
Dallas is a full-cooked meal
while we are still a bunch of gourmet ingredients.
Soon we’ll be tasty too. But not yet. And you’re right that they cause major problems when we show cracks. Jason Kidd knows which end of the ball is round. Terry and Howard can both score all night long. Where do you get your help from? Center? That worked really well tonight, eh?
—Dave
I think
we just HAVE to attack them at the center position offensively. I don’t care if the guys don’t trust Greg yet. We can really hurt them there — it’s not as if they really have a backup, so foul trouble could really damage them.
If you can’t stop them, foul them out. If you can get Dampier out of there, and you force Dirk to defend on the interior, maybe you can neutralize his offensive threat a little bit.
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by jscot on Feb 4, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Losing Diop
means that they’ve lost their backup bulk… you’re right, we could go right at Dampier with Oden. He has almost a 60% true shooting mark. Him shooting more is obviously good… dunks usually go in.
A few problems with that
- Dampier fouls out next to never. Maybe his fitness limits him a bit, his fouls don’t. He has fouled out under 40 times in a 12 year career and counting.
- Dirk is very used to playing center. Dallas did it often, sometimes playing just Dampier and sometimes just Diop. Until this year, even the German national team only had one true 7 foot center before they got Kaman.
- Hollins is actually more athletic than Diop, just much lighter. He doesn’t look like a bad replacement.
Maybe they will acquire another true center before the deadline who can do some damage on offense (Miller, Kaman) or defense (Camby), but consolidating their starting shooting guard into a really good one might be a more pressing concern.
We could get them, too
The way things are going, Portland and Dallas could end up 4-5 (in either order).
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I would seriously take that.
I don’t foresee Portland ending up higher than that I suppose. Somehow I’d be surprised if we win the division. And I don’t see us winning a playoff series against anyone we’d face with a lower seed. At least finishing 4 or 5 would be a very good seed for us considering where we came from. I’d rather face Dallas from that seed than San Antonio or the L*kers from a lower one.
—Dave
I would, too
I still like my 55 win prediction (we might end up 52-53, but 55 is certainly attainable), but even that may not beat out the Nuggets (56-57 wins) and probably won’t catch the Spurs.
I think I would rather face N.O. or Houston than Dallas, though. Especially if we can get the 4 spot and have home court. They’ll all be tough opponents, but we’d have a chance.
I think we’d have a legitimate chance if we dropped to six and got the Nuggets in the first round, too. They strike me as a great regular season team but not necessarily someone you would be afraid to meet in the playoffs.
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Dallas freaks me out.
They pick apart our defense and have players that create horrible matchups for us.
I would love to face Denver or Houston, though… Not New Orleans. Chris Paul can will them to the second round.
I'd much prefer a matchup with Dallas to one with NO
I’d have Portland play the Spurs in a 7 game series before playing the Hornets with Paul and Chandler both healthy.
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by Billy Ray Bates on Feb 5, 2009 7:59 AM PST up reply actions
If we have home court
Chandler will be gone by the end of the third quarter in four of the games, and we’ll get a couple free points on the techs.
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Teams I fear
The new Andrew Bynumless edition!
1. NO
2. Lakers
3. Dallas
4. San An
5. Phoenix
6. Houston
7. Denver
8. Utah
Now if Lakers thump us at home I might move them back to 1, but right now NO has completely manhandled us with CP3. If he was out for any reason NO drops to about 44. Kobe can manhandle us, but he can’t get 2nd rate players to own us quite like Paul.
Dallas has shown they own us in and out. Spurs are always scary. Barring one night of Roy saving us, Phoenix has had their way with us. If we run into Rockets/Nuggets/Jazz though I think we win round 1.
We played two against NO
when healthy, and split them. Competitive there and thumped them pretty soundly in Portland.
Don’t get me wrong, if they get healthy I think they could legitimately contend if they stay healthy and get some breaks. But I think we match up pretty well when our guys are healthy.
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Didn't they thump us by 15 in Portland though?
I didn’t look this up, I could be mixing games and/or forgetting injuries.
When Brandon was out
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Didnt we have a more difficult Mismatch with Oden though?
Why cant we seem to get him the ball in the paint? It seems the offense spreads and then as we pass around the perimeter the collapse inside just as we are trying to get the ball into Oden. It seems he comes to high to set the High Pick at the 3-Point line. Why dont they run plays with him and Brandon where he comes to the free throw corner and Brandon can eith Pop and Fresh or dump to Oden? Sorry Im just frustrated with Nate’s use of using our Mismatches to his advantage instead of scrambling to cover the other teams.
by TheOdenator52 on Feb 5, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
When the Mavs went small so did we....This reminded me of Avery going small
When Nelson went small in the playoffs. We should have stayed big and made them keep shooting from the perimeter.
by TheOdenator52 on Feb 5, 2009 12:09 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That may have cost us the game down the stretch
I think we had Dallas softened up and the momentum was really shifting when Nate took Oden and BRoy out…I thought that was a mistake. Then later he went with the small line-up…which was also probably a mistake.
But overall I think Nate is doing a great job with this young team. I just like to talk about the points that don’t normally get discussed by the talking heads.
I agree, I think he comes too high on the high pick
And why did they not exploit that mismatch with Oden?
Contact -- you said the magic D-word, Dave
And that’s why Bayless is going to get the bulk of the minutes going forward (sans Blake, and maybe with him, too). He’s willing to throw his body into the defensive morass, while Sergio is more than willing to wave flags as the crowds go by . . . or simply switch places. And interestingly, we’re discovering that Fearless does the running game better, too, which was the Madrid guy’s claim to fame.
It was always obvious
that Jerryd was going to be a great threat in the running game, long term, because he can take it to the hoop and score.
That makes the whole fastbreak more dangerous, because rule number one on fastbreak defense is to stop the guy with the ball. On a fastbreak, the defense doesn’t have a chance to be set, so chances are good you are a little bit out of position to stop him, and that means it may take two guys to do so.
Sergio just isn’t a major threat to split defenders on the break and take it to the rack. Jerryd is, and a lot of times, that alone means two points. If they stop him, that means they’ve dedicated at least one guy solely to doing so, and that opens up the lanes for the guys on the wing.
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I think Dave (the guy who runs this site)
Mentioned a wish for a guy who the defense feared coming down on the break, because you can’t stop him, and then if ya do you got the other finishers to worry about.
We got some good finishers, but didn’t have someone who was natural at getting out on the break and really pushing the ball. I think the guy Dave had in mind was a point forward type (like Darius Miles), but hey— I’ll take my PG leading the break and being the hammer the other team doesn’t wanna be bashed with.
How many stutter stop fastbreaks have we seen Blakey have over the years, because he doesn’t wanna finish the fastbreak and the other team ain’t guarding him to finish? We’ve had more groan worthy “fast breaks” than any team in the entire NBA, according to basketballreference.com. I’d like to see that change, dammit. I love how Blake has played as a Blazer, and he’s our starter for sure, but man… he just ain’t a fastbreak point guard to put it nicely.
Bayless running straight at ya begging to be able to dunk it on you, Batum/Webster streaking down the wing, LMA on the other side, Oden trailing, Roy maybe ambling up as well… how do ya stop it?
Every possible defensive answer the other team can offer is wrong.
Mortimer
HA!!!
Dave (the guy who runs this site) wants that? I’ve been agitating for that since before you, Mortimer Kutie Pie (and we all know what those initials should stand for), were born, I think.
We all know KP (you/he/whoever) drafted this dude for this very reason. So this misdirection about Dave (the guy who runs this site) is irrelevant. Quit pretending that you even care what Dave TGWRTS wants. KP wants a guy who will shred the defense if they aren’t back in droves to stop him — it’s free points, and in a playoff game where free points are hard to find in the half-court, if you can get a few here or there with a smash-and-grab, wham-bam-thank-you-ma’am, slap-em-upside-the-head-when-they-aren’t-looking, dunk-o-rama fastbreak, you have got to get them.
KP (whomever you may or may not be) maybe drafted Batum potentially hoping possibly perhaps he could be turned into sort of that point forward dude maybe someday, but he knew he isn’t that yet or even close, and he went after Bayless because it is actually better to have a PG who can dunk on your head repeatedly, and wants to, who can finish in (or over, or through) traffic, and (if they are foolish enough to actually force him to give the ball up) will dish it to someone who is likely to make an even more awesome dunk than he would have.
Bayless will CREATE fastbreaks when they aren’t even there by recognizing that the defense isn’t really set yet and attacking. He will create 4-6 ppg just by finding a seam to attack before we even get into our offense. Maybe more. And he’ll draw fouls, too, which can affect the game in other ways. And he makes his free throws.
Did I mention yet in this thread (probably 47 times or more, but I can’t be bothered to look) that I said when we got Jerryd that the Big Three just became the Big Four? That he is, like, really good, and like, the perfect guy for this team? I don’t think I did yet. I think I might be falling into the severe trap of saying, “I told you so” a lot in coming days.
I love Sergio, and really would love to see him running a devastating fastbreak attack on the second unit. Joel rebounds, outlets to Sergio, and he runs the break and feeds Rudy or Martell/Batum or Travis for the dunk. That will be fun, fun, fun. But Jerryd will do the one man fastbreaks, the break-you-down-because-you-weren’t-ready-when-I-got-here pseudo fastbreaks that turn into easy buckets or fouls at the hoop, and he also will be able to take the seams that Brandon creates and take it to the rack in the half-court game, too.
And by next year, he’ll be shooting 37%, minimum, on 3s, too.
Did I mention that I think Jerryd is going to be really good? I’m not sure I did. I think I said somewhere he might well be an all-star in a few years, too. I mean, I know I said that, because it is true, and I say true stuff. But I don’t know if I said it here in this thread yet.
P.S. I’ve been working on my Morty-style posting, how am I doing, anyway?
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by jscot on Feb 5, 2009 6:08 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Bayless was drafted for his trade value only
Sergio is the point guard of the future, Blake is the back up and Bayless will be traded for an expiring contract.
It's not offensive until someone read it.
LOL
That wasn’t offensive until I read it.
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You have the length part down.
But you trying to imitate Mort’s writing style is… discomfiting. It’s like seeing the CEO getting tipsy at the office party.
Sigh
Mort is Mortimer and I am mortified.
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Haha part 2
No, you did it good, I just mean when I saw you replied and quick scanned what you wrote, for some reason getting my style back at me made me think that the person replying was really angry at what I said and was ranting at my stupidity :<)
As always, me and you agree on most everything, I’m just more “shrug” about Sergio and his impact on a game. I still liken him to a Juan Dixon streak shooter— when he’s on, it’s cool, when he’s off (which is most of the time), he’s useless.
His nice passes kind hide that (in my opinion) he can’t really organize or run a team, and just kinda wings it all the time. Some nights that improvisation can take over for a quarter and make the difference in the game, so I see why people think he is special, but again— I think it’s a streak type thang.
Right now, I’d go dependable with my backup over sometimes good.
Mortimer
Haha part 3
I think I did it better once before, but I think it’s probably better that I just be me, which is ok, because I kind of like me, if you know what I mean.
I never get angry at what you say in case you might be KP. But I still might rant at any stupidity, because we don’t want KP being stupid, either. I can rant even when I’m not angry, because I practice it.
I’ve thought about trying to be TiH, but I think that is someone that absolutely no one else can do. Bust a Bucket tries, but he’s just not up to the same standard.
Yeah, I know you aren’t very high on Sergio, and I know why. I just like the potential. We’ll see what happens someday. Meanwhile, we’re going to win a truckload of games no matter who our backup behind Bayless is.
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agreed
I am really impressed with Jerryd on the fast break. Our other PGs are pretty good when we have the advantage on the break, but Jerryd seems to be able to score even when outnumbered. It’s such a sharp contrast from last year when we couldn’t even score on any fast break…advantage or not.
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by Philthyanimal on Feb 5, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
That's something I've noticed to
Bayless plays much faster than Sergio, and at a much quicker pace. He has been better at fastbreakin’— MUCH better. Now, Sergio is an amazing passer, but he doesn’t exactly get out on the break much. Bayless has been a one man fastbreak (just like Devin Harris and Tony Parker do), and done a better-than-I-expected job of passing off on the fast break when he needs to pass it.
He still needs to gain more instinctual passing, develop more of a flow to the game, but that’ll come. Experience will solve both of those.
He’ll never be as good of a pure passer as Sergio, but that’s just gimmicky gobbledeegook that fuzzies up Sergio’s usual lack of effectiveness. Bayless has enabled us to get quick, easy points that have evaded us for forever.
Bay-Bay ain’t perfect, Sergio is more of a PG, but how bad Sergio is at everything else is worse than Bayless is bad at being a PG— and what he does well, we need. As a 3rd year pure PG, Sergio really doesn’t make much of a case for running a team better than the rookie who is a PG in height only, supposedly.
Bayless would certainly score more, have more highlights, and more impressive all-round numbers if he was on the Knicks or the Thunder or some other bad team that woulda’ played him 30+ mins a night right away… but Portland is the perfect situation for him. We’ll force him to learn how to play with others, be more of a PG, where the other places would just have him score (which obviously, he does pretty well already).
His partnership with Roy could be special.
Maybe I’m being too tough on ol’ Sergio, but I can’t remember too many fastbreaks he has led and delivered on. I’d even say Bayless has had more successful fastbreaks in the last few weeks than Sergio has had the last few years total.
Man, Bayless had some rough dumb rookie moments tonight, but those don’t last long. I like what I see from the stupid jerk.
Mortimer
HEY!
You said “one man fastbreak”, too! I said it up higher (even if you said it first), which just goes to show how smart I am, because (since I said it higher) people will think you copied me.
Although it is theoretically possible that I only said it because I was sort of channeling you. Scary thought.
I’ve been saying/thinking that for a while.
You ARE too tough on Sergio. Nate has not been teaching/emphasizing the running game, so he’s not been playing to Sergio’s strengths. Sergio is only good in the running game if he’s on a running team, because his strength is in dishing the ball to his wingmen.
Jerryd? He IS a running game. “No wingmen? I’ll just go dunk and get fouled.” The fact that Nate hasn’t put together a running team is irrelevant to what Jerryd is doing. If Nate focused on creating a running team (and I think this may come after he gets them good at half-court play), Sergio would be great on the fastbreak.
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Shhhh
When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.
Who is Excel and why do you want everyone to know him?
Is is some sort of religion?
It's not offensive until someone reads it.
I don't want everyone to know him
I want everyone to use him.
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"One man fastbreak"
Was a big part of my argument last season for why Devin Harris would be so perfect for us. And then KP didn’t want to get him in exchange for our 2nd round pick and the draft rights to Joel Freeland! WHY, KP, WHHHYYYYY!!!
Harris came into the league as more of a scoring PG. He had to learn how to pick and choose when to be the PG, when to penetrate at will, and when to pull up. His quickness and defense enabled him to create or snag loose balls and coast to easy buckets all by himself— who can catch up with him?
We needed that sort of easy cheap baskets, and guys like Harris and Tony Parker do it all the time on their own. So, like you, I was glad when we got that BayBay kid because of his ability to do that AND potentially defensiveialize.
(And Tony Parker had the same ‘scoring PG learning to be a real PG’ development curve to start his career as well, so there is some recent evidence that athletic, hyper quick, smart players can become more of a PG with hard work and practice, and it isn’t all set in stone.)
We don’t know how good Bayless can be. His athleticism and work ethic are off the charts, so it’s hard to say. If he wants to become more of a PG and become a good (or great) defender, then I think he will be.
As long as he wants to do that stuff, and wants to be a Blazer (when I think, eventually, he could lead some team in scoring, but that team wouldn’t be nearly as good), I think he’ll fit us very well.
Mortimer
My guess is
he’ll want to be a Blazer because Paul Allen will have bucketloads of money to pay him if he’s that good. And money plus championships is probably something he’ll be pretty happy with.
KP didn’t want Harris because
1) he knew he was going to use mind control on everyone else to get Bayless, who is younger.
2) Freeland is going to be the next coming of Maurice Lucas, or something, as well as continuing our European strategy.
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I heard one rumor
That KP coulda’ got Devin Harris for FREE, as long as we, quote: “promised to treat him nicely and tell him he doesn’t look like Maya Rudolph”. AND KP TURNED IT DOWN WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM.
Bayless will definitely make more with us than elsewhere if he’s worth it, I just figure he’s an ambitious fellow, and ambitious fellows sometimes don’t wanna be behind someone for forever.
BUT, OF COURSE, NATURALLY, this is not only a problem that we have no certainty could even be a possibility (who knows how good he’ll be), it’s a billion years away if it happens at all. Because of Paul Allen and KP, I don’t think Bayless will be our Joe Johnson.
Mortimer
Perhaps KP is too honest
and thinks he DOES look like Maya Rudolph.
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Perhaps KP is too honest
and thinks he DOES look like Maya Rudolph.
Who is Maya Rudolph? Is that a Mexican reindeer or something?
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Maya Rudolph and Devin Harris might be the same person
Maya Rudolph is a comedian/actress on Saturday Night Live, and director Paul Thomas Anderson’s baby’s momma.

Devin Harris is her with a haircut.
Morty
lol @ maya rudolph
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Feb 5, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Semi-OT: "gimmicky gobbledeegook"
Just in case anyone missed the subtle reference made by Mortimer K. Genius, I have to point out that the the word gobbledygook was first coined by a Maverick, namely Maury Maverick (1895–1954), a US congressman from Texas.
by Corvid on Feb 5, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It was funny seeing Dirk shoot turn around fade aways when he was one on one against Bayless.
We certainly had our chances in the fourth. Just could not get those lucky bounces.
Yeah our defense sucks. But no team in the NBA can give up against us. Not even Boston.
Karma
Kevin Pelton had a fascinating article on the Orlando Magic
He mentions the Blazers:
Nate McMillan’s best teams—a group which includes this year’s Portland Trail Blazers—have somewhat paradoxically been good at both offensive rebounding and making threes. In fact, relative to league average, no team in NBA history has been better at both making threes and offensive rebounding than the 2008-09 Blazers are.
It’s almost unfair.
I always thought
that shooting threes increased your chances of offensive rebounds, because long rebounds off the 3 can help negate the inside position that defensive rebounders tend to get.
Someone should do a study and see if that’s true.
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funny you should say this
as about two weeks ago i watched some vintage nba on youtube, including the celtics with bill russell at center — and i was struck by how short the bounce was on the defensive rebound. of course nowadays the missed 3 pter often bounces long — but i wonder as well about the “spring-ness” of the rims. dead rims mean a much more predictable rebound.
ignacio
Dead rims
also increase the chance of it bouncing in instead of out.
If the rims have gotten bouncier, then you can’t really compare historical shooting percentages. I’ve never read anything about changes to the rims.
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rims wear out
and in old gyms, for instance, theyre seldom replaced. hmm.
ignacio
Rims are spring-loaded now
to keep the backboard from breaking on a slam dunk. Maybe that adds a bit o’ bounce.
Long rebounds
The chances of getting an offensive rebound on a three are in fact better than rebounding a long two, for example. But far and away the most likely shots to get offensive rebounded are those in the paint. Add in the fact that three-point shooting teams generally have their players on the perimeter (duh!) and most three-point shooting teams get very few offensive rebounds.
Chart of offensive rebounding by shot location:
http://www.countthebasket.com/blog/2008/03/29/rebounding-by-shot-location/
Thanks for that
That’s some nice work.
That makes sense. A lot of shots in the paint come because of a defensive breakdown, which means at least one offensive player is often going to have inside position. In addition, on a shot in the paint, the interior defenders will be defending the shot rather than focusing on boxing out, so again you may have an offensive advantage.
So you would expect the shot in the paint to result in more offensive rebounds. And you expect more on threes for stated reasons.
The reason we get lots of offensive rebounds, even though we shoot a lot of threes, is because we have an outstanding rebounding center on the floor for 48 minutes, and the fact that we shoot 3s instead of mid-range 2s is irrelevant — our guys are inside working for the rebounds, and our 3 point shooting means the opposing center isn’t getting much help trying to box them out and control them.
Also, on defensive rebounds, where you typically have inside position, strength and bulk are an advantage, but on offensive rebounds, quickness and length can be more helpful — you have to overcome that inside position, and quickness can help you get around the guy, length and hops can help you get the rebound over him.
We’ve got LMA, quick and long, who is often more effective on the offensive than defensive boards. We also have Travis (long and quick, ideally for offensive boards, not that strong on the defensive boards), Nic (same), Rudy (quickness and hops to get a few offensive boards) and Brandon (often gets into the paint).
This team, except for our centers, is made for offensive rebounding more than defensive rebounding. Our centers are made for owning the boards on both ends.
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Possible Blazers breakdown habit
The second quarter of this game reminded me of the second quarter of the loss in Boston. It was kind of like at 3:30 to go in the half, the team just kind of said, “We’re relaxing now, since there isn’t much damage they can do before the buzzer.” And then both teams clobbered us, setting themselves up for the eventual win. I can’t remember other games that went that way, but I feel like it might be a little mini-pattern — mentally in the locker room a few minutes before the half actually ends.
Sticking up for Travis Outlaw since 2008.
Maybe if we all chipped in together...
We could hire Karl Malone and John Stockton for a day to teach the Blazers and Nate how to run the PICK AND ROLL!!
by TheOdenator52 on Feb 4, 2009 11:57 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
yeah why don't we
hire a hall of fame big man to be Greg’s special coach for that matter? Who do we have working with him? I obviously don’t know.
"Every time Troutlaw touches the ball, I pop an anti-anxiety pill."
by DaNoose on Feb 5, 2009 12:11 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
maurice lucas is the biggest guy on the bench
and i thought he was having a positive impact since his return from pneumonia. but these last 3 games of greg’s have been tough.
ignacio
or we could trade for Shaq...
not that I’m advocating that.
by LicketyBrindle on Feb 5, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
HO!!
Killed the Jersey score tonight!
2ND RIGHT NOW! can only go down from here…. : (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj8DgWnbVng&feature=bz303
MVP *** MVP *** MVP
I've never scored more than 38 ..... not even in Little League.
jersey contest - DAVE
my name is listed twice is the monthly tally thus far, but the two entries are not linked together. can someone look into that and fix it?
thanks
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
That means
you probably entered them slightly differently or used a different e-mail account. You’re in good company, as several people do it each month. At this point it can’t be repaired. Sorry about that.
—Dave
the increased minutes of bayless
has to have unintended consequences, minus as well as plus. no one is used to him being out there in the 4th quarter. it changes all kinds of things.
ignacio
True,
but such is the price of building a team featuring four rooks. We’re not going to the finals this year, so there’s no real issue with bearing these consequences now.
I agree
Roy had a good game yesterday, but the game has shifted away from him a little bit.
Roy + Blake = Roy in charge.
Roy + Bayless = Bayless in charge.
I’m loving Bayless, but I don’t know if that’s the right way to go.
Sticking up for Travis Outlaw since 2008.
Don't go ripping Hudson Hawk.
That was a GOOD MOVIE.
Massively overbudget, but aside from the price tag, it was hilarious.
The runaway-stretcher-on-the-bridge-cigarette-theft? “Ugh . . . MENTHOL!”
Dumped from a chase scene into the bistro seat for his Andie Mcdowell date, coughing feathers?
“Excuse me, but I must talk to the dolphins now: EE EEE EE EE! EE EEE! EE EEE EE EE!”?
Great stuff, man.
Do it! Do it! Do it 'til you're satisfied!
I liked that movie too
Better than most Willis extravaganzas. – Elgin
Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot
What does it means?
Roy, a guard, max rebounder with 7?
LA+Oden+Pryz reb= Travis+Bayless+Roy reb?
PG+SG reb = PF+C reb -1?
Roy, our leader in the Nate “youneverturnitover” offensive system, max 5 TO? Refs or Roy?
Travis, our SF “black-hole-shooter”, max 4 assists?
Best assist/TO ratio: Outlaw, Batum, LA, in that order. Guards TO ratio 1/1 at best?
3PM/A 61,35% (8/13), FGM/A 48,1?
No one among the starters with more than 2 personal fouls, when Dallas had been shooting 63 at the half. Should have we put more pressure on the refs by defending more aggressively from the beginning?
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
by amlmart1 on Feb 5, 2009 1:17 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
the stopgap PG rotation of sergio and jerryd
confuses the players at times. they dont know what to expect and are not receiving the ball where they expect in every case.
bayless is showing a great deal, but hes also holding himself back, restraining himself because he doesnt want to seem a gunner. so hes unnaturally wary about taking outside shots.
and it would make sense that sergio may feel he is losing ground — and this may be putting him into a funk or making him tense.
ignacio
Perimeter D
Game after game I’m stunned by the incredibly high percentage opponents shoot against us.
What I want to see from this team is the kind of effort and determination to play defense every possession like the other team is questioning their manhood. It might not be fail to expect, but I want to see some of these guys develop into first team all-defense types. I want BRoy and LA to play defense like Jordan & Pippen. Every time the opponent has the ball, you’d rather they died of fear than make a shot or get a second shot.
For this team to get to where we all want them to go, they need to take this step. I don’t expect it to happen this year, but we should be seeing improvement.
If I see another team shoot 55% for a game, I’m going to… well I’m going to get really frustrated and post comments on Blazers Edge.
Have you noticed their shots?
It seems like the opponents always get easy baskets against us. Dunks, lay-ins, fast breaks, etc…
Also, our big men foul too much anyways, so it’s like if they get beat, they allow guys that have no business finishing inside (JJ Barea) to make an easy bucket.
That’s why they go from shooting 40% to 55% in a game. High quality and generally uncontested shots.
by pdxer in dfw on Feb 5, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Okay, can we trade Sergio now?
Does it take that much of a genius to see that Bayless, with all of a dozen games under his belt, not only has more upside than 3-year vet Sergio, he’s better already against the good competition — offense, defense, and (if they had them) special teams.
It's Coming.
This game and some of the other more recent ones, seems to show that Bayless is increasingly picking up the minutes – not Sergio. We’ll see what happens going forward, but if it continues, then it will remind me of what KP said at the beginning of the season, which is that Bayless would need the first half of the season to get acclimated, and then we’d see much more of him.
It’s why we, as fans, have to continue to show patience. Batum, Oden and Bayless are the necessary ingredients for the Blazers to take the next step from being merely good, to being a real contender. Having Webster in the lineup will help Batum – but it will also cost Fernandez and Outlaw minutes. Oden and Bayless, however, have their futures – and their positions – in front of them. Center is Oden’s for the taking, just as PG is Bayless’s. But those two positions are the toughest slots on the team, and both will take longer to develop than the others. Center, because the NCAA cannot adequately prepare centers for the NBA’s style of play – thus, they have to learn it in the NBA, and PG because it is, hands down, the most difficult position to play.
However, when it comes to Bayless, the strengths that made KP so enthusiastic about drafting him – are increasingly on display. We wanted a player to complement Roy, and that meant – and still means, a player who can bring the ball up, defense the other teams point, and either initiate a play or pass it to Roy while getting into the offensive flow so that Roy can then initiate the play.
Now granted, if Blake had been back last night, Bayless would not have gotten 34 minutes. But it seems clear that Mac would’ve still have Bayless on the floor more minutes than Sergio.
I like the future – but I must admit it’s a little painful sometimes to watch us getting there.
Still, we played Dallas almost even on their home court – even though we were missing our starting PG and our starting SF – and that’s something we should all remember.
It’s coming – and Bayless’s play recently is, if nothing else, ratcheting up the controversy we sometimes engage in over whether or not we get a rent-a-PG for a few years now, or wait for Bayless.
The future of this team is really bright... the trick
right now is who to subtract so we can add…
I’m a bit hesitant in moving Outlaw at the moment, but could see value in this depending on what we get in return.
Everyone else on the 2nd string, besides Pryz and Bayless, we should ship out, as our foundation is almost set.
What did Rudy ever do to you?
Why ship Martell when we haven’t seen how he fits yet?
I think the guys you want to ship out are the third string….
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oopps....
Rudy is so good in my mind I mix him with our “6 starters”…. Martell, I agree we should wait, but I’m less than optimistic that we’ll see him this year at his best…. he could be a valuable trade asset in a year from now.
Bayless needs to go
He has the most trade value and the highest BBIQ.
It's not offensive until someone read it.
No. Bayless isn´t injury prone, he´s not a Blazer.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
I don't think Roy has trade value (I mean he does, but not really, you know what I mean?)
Teams may want him but we can’t get back equal value. It’s like trying to calculate the speed of light. It just can’t be done. You get an error when you try to calculate Roy’s trade value.
It's not offensive until someone reads it.
But
He mainly brought the much-needed spark last night. We lost by 5, but without him in, make it 15.
We needed Ike in there to bruise on Bass last night.
Spark is overrated
That was a blowout 5 point victory though. We never really threatened them barring a nice final minute that made the game look close. Even when we got within 6 it wasn’t really a game in the fourth quarter sadly.
He pushed the ball
A lot of our scoring came from him running and gunning. We looked a lot more stagnant and too ready to die by the jumpshot with him out. I agree on the fact that it never really felt like we were going to win, but he seemed to be the bright side in a frustrating loss.
by pdxer in dfw on Feb 5, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Run and gun
He did run the fast break well, the problem is that makes up 10% of our possessions.
The bright side tonight was Outlaw. He came in, make shots, didn’t make mistakes, and actually played a little bit of defense compared to the rest of the team. (Again, this is from the 10-15 game minutes I got to see.)
Jersey contest OKC
I’m not able to enter the Oden pnts+reb+ass+fouls etc will be greater than KD’s points.
Just giving whoever needs to know this a heads up!
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Thanks
I’ll try again. I assume when you go back in to view, that what you’ve chosen is displayed.
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Don't know if anyone else is having that problem?
It shows all my selections. but under “Which is higher” it always shows KD’s points. (tried 2 more times),
For the record I’m looking for another double double from Oden. A couple slam dunks, a spin move ending with a slaaammm dunk, two left hooks, a right hook, a two handed jam, 41/2 fouls, a 15 foot jumper, etc., Blazers win by 11.
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I'm pretty sure if Dallas played Portland a thousand times, Dallas wins 999 of them
Just can’t match up with them. They have four or five players that nobody on our team can guard.
Blazer Fan
I think both Blake and Marty would've helped us last night
on the defensive end and with the 3P’s…. Also, it seems that coach Mac hasn’t gone to Oden much lately – I’d like to see more of Oden’s post play develop
How many times can you see Jerryd Bayless on Nowitzki before you throw your hands up in disgust?
um 3?
Dunk
I thought that was the plan
It happened so often. It beats the heck out of Oden out on CP3 …………..
2-4 the who
I didn't mind it. It's the only way Bayless can learn to guard tall guys
It's not offensive until someone reads it.
I didnt think he did a bad job at all..
he certainly can body up on guys. I think he did as well as anyone else.
I'm afraid Chiekh Samb's kids are going to be born ducking
by GreatOden'sRaven on Feb 5, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
That's been the defensive strategy on Dirk since the finals...
put a smaller, stronger guy on him to get into his legs. Remeber how much Riley threw him off his game by putting little guys on him? I thought Bayless did a competent job on Dirk compared with LMA and Outlaw.
by Pooh Richardson on Feb 5, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
True, BUT ...
The one time I specifically remember, Bayless actually forced him into a fadeaway, still got up in his face, and the shot went off the rim. He shouldn’t guard Nowitzki, and they should avoid that in the future, but he did pull it off. I was impressed with Bayless sticking to him.
Sticking up for Travis Outlaw since 2008.
JB
did anyone else notice JB with his TRex look on his face hunting down Outlaw after one of those plays to explain to him he’s tired of doing his work and gaurding Dirk?
I liked it,
I just hope the guys he is giving the “look” to like it; at least respond positively to it.
By the way,
this is precisely why Bayless can’t do that sulking routine as he did earlier in the year. When he’s not playing (as well as when he is) he has to, in his case, be especially visible rooting for the other guys. As the coming PG, he’s going to get on a lot a teammates’ cases, and to do that with credibility he must be even more vociferous with his praise and cheers for them.
agreed
But how pissed would you be having to cover for Travis’s Defense, not to mention is it just me or does Travis never I mean ever block out for rebounds it seems the only ones he gets are high flying out of position over the back or putbacks while slashing someone please teach him to blockout a man and fight through a screen!
Correct me if I'm wrong
But isn’t Bayless guarding Dirk because Bayless switched in a pick and roll? (I missed large parts of the game due to bowling, so my logic could be off here.)
sure
on occasion you are forced to switch, but JB found himself on Dirk time after time….I just don’t see Travis working to get through the screen on the pick if you watch good defensive teams they rarely end up with a 6’3" guard stuck on a 7’ center because they work through or over the screen to prevent this from happening, maybe I am just to critical of Outlaws defense but I truly think he is either lazy or just doesn’t get it! Not trying to offend the Travis fans here he has done great things for this team at times just a observation.And in defense of Travis maybe it’s just the fact that Dirk and Dallas are that good……..
Bayless is getting screened, not Travis
Bayless covering Dirk is 100% Bayless’ fault—at least in Nate’s scheme where he wants our guys to do the near impossible dozens of times a game (fight through a screen well enough to stop the ball). I Blame Nate more for not coming up with a more creative and effective approach to the P&R.
"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."
Not always 100%, but yeah
I noticed this once with Sergio, but has probably happened with Bayless too. Someone set a pick on Sergio and he got through it, but LA stayed on the guard anyway. At the last second Sergio tried to go cover LA’s guy, but it was too late and the free bucket came.
90-95% of the time it’s the PGs fault, but it can be the big man’s fault at times. Another reason why PG is the toughest position to play defense on.
your probably right might very well be the the defensive set
I never see Bruce Bowen getting lost on that play and leaving Tony Parker to guard Dirk…but the point of my whole statement at the top of this run was that bayless was in Travis’s face after one of those plays last night wondering what he was doing, was right after a Dirk move as they went to commercial he was furious with him.
A day or two of practice off for Brandon?
He has just looked slow and out of since the last few games even despite his solid production last night
I don't think he's been 100% since the hamstring injury
But they’ve needed him with Blake out.
Sticking up for Travis Outlaw since 2008.
After the NO game
When Brandon had 6 points against New Orleans, I was actually wondering if he were genuinely ill. He does seem a step off.
Also, from the stands in the Utah game, I noticed a couple times when we turned the ball over, he didn’t really seem to react quickly. It was almost as though he took a deep sigh before making a token effort to get back.
I’m not saying this to question his ethic, I’m just pointing out that for the last three games, it’s occurred to me that something might be wrong with him physically.
To me it looked
as if he’d had too much wine or beer with his p.m. meal. It was like he was doing an Australian “walkabout”. Hate to read too much into this, but it was so totally weird somebody in the media out to do some inquiring.
Brandon's speed is not not so much a natural gift...
as a result of his hard work. As a result, he needs to have juice in his legs to get his drives. i think his frustration at the refs is partly frustration at himself.
And it seems particularly like the good teams in the West know how to collapse the lane to stop BRoy. When i see Portland find an answer to their answer, I will start to have hope for the us getting to the next level. As it stands, we need to win with energy, and a hot hand, not so reliable.
My first game I could attend this year...
It blows that we lost, but there were a few things that blatantly stood out to me:
1 – Our defense was waaaaay too soft. Too many easy, open looks, too many easy layins. Also bad rotation to the corner giving them open looks. Also, the mismatches were embarrassing.
2 – Bass was one of our real stoppers tonight. There were a couple of times that we had nice runs to get back in, and then almost like it was what he’s paid to do, Bass made a really aggressive move and scored. Then had a great offensive rebound – scored and the foul. (And I can’t believe that he shoots almost 88% at the line this year!) He had the fire that we lack.
3 – Bayless is a firecracker. While Brandon, LaMarcus, Rudy, Trout and everyone else seemed to put up quiet numbers, Bayless actually seemed noticeable. Maybe it’s his energy and speed, but he’s going to get a lot of attention down the road.
by pdxer in dfw on Feb 5, 2009 8:59 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
right on
1. If we wind up trading for someone, I hope it’s a real top flight defender.
2. We made Bass look even better than he really is, which is pretty good.
3. Bayless can be a great player. Maybe he gets a crash course this year and blossoms next year – or maybe he blossoms this year. – Elgin
Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot
Does Jason Quick have any credibility as a journalist covering the Blazers?
He made his big stand with a “Nate knows better than you so shut up” article a few weeks back when he shared Nate’s comment that the switch on a pick was reserved only for emergencies. I can’t imagine there is any one on the planet who would believe this after the evidence we have seen over the course of this season let alone the past 10 games. Isn’t a journalist supposed to press these questions and call out Nate for an answer? To me it must either be he is coaching them to switch or he doesn’t have the ability to get them to do what he asks…..either way it is troubling to me……..
We have been beating poor quality opponents or opponents with more injuries than we have (Paul, Boozer, AK47, Chandler, Wallace, Baron Davis, Randolph, etc) which I think has masked alot of our poor play. I think we will make the playoffs and we may even end up with a 4-6 seed…but my gut tells me that in a series against a good team where you have the ability to really focus on how to beat a team Nate and the team will be exposed.
It is one loss on the road and we are missing some guys…..but it is the fundamental issue of poor defense (which Dave summarizes brilliantly) that makes me doubt our ability to get very far without some major changes (roster, coaching, experience)
Hey Nate if the pick and roll is “impossibe to defend” why dont we run it with Roy and Oden more?
TP FOR 3
by WhereInTheWorldIsDontonioWingfield on Feb 5, 2009 9:16 AM PST reply actions
Pick and roll
Everytime we run the pick and roll they start at the tree point line (which I believe is way to far away to start it see malone and stockton) and either Greg or Joel ends up completely out of position for a rebound or finish usually about the free throw line by the time the shot goes up… terrible spacing for some reason on the Blazers version !!! sorry pet peeve here.
Nice recap Dave
I like the Blazers a lot, and I think they have tremendous potential. You’re very close in my mind. You’re young players are legit and just need experience. I worry about Oden, though. He looks a little lost out there, but man you can see the potential. I guess I expected more out of him after a year of being part of the team, even if he was on the sidelines. I hope he can harness his talent.
You guys caught our team in an odd spot: Carlisle finally settled on a rotation and an offensive system that works. The Mavs are putting up ludicrous offensive numbers against good defensive teams, so don’t feel too bad about your defense. On the other hand, your team made the Mavs defense look a bit better than it is. But that could have just been an off night for you guys. You would know more than me.
for some reason
bass owns us. does he normally shoot jumpers that well?
I'm afraid Chiekh Samb's kids are going to be born ducking
by GreatOden'sRaven on Feb 5, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Bass has a good mid-range shot
Yeah, Bass has a good, if somewhat inconsistent, midrange shot. His biggest issue is he’s a tweener. He doesn’t have the game of a small forward and he’s too small for a power forward. Well, his defense could use some work, too. :)
I have to say. I was disappointed in the coaching and Oden
Last night we could have really won the game. We really should have to be honest.
We are soft. Plain and simple. Now I am not saying I want to see a bunch of flagrant fouls, but someone needs to come in and crush opponents. Oden seems so afraid of fouls he lets a ton of stuff go. maybe this comes with time. But last night, after watching layup after layup, i wanted to see someone, ANYONE go after shots, body someone up, and attack the ball. LaMarcus was so soft last night it was painful. PAINFUL. I am trying my best to keep this clean, but Joel should play all game if no one else is going to protect the lane. Foul them, block the shot, body out extra physical on purpose, but something needs to be done. that is what lost us the game last night.
I'm afraid Chiekh Samb's kids are going to be born ducking
by GreatOden'sRaven on Feb 5, 2009 12:13 PM PST reply actions
If that is all that is needed
then we have eighteen fouls at the power forward position just sitting there doing nothing.
If all we need to do to improve is to get into the paint and kick some ass, then that should be Frye’s, Diogu’s and Randolph’s job and they should do it with gusto for about six minutes (and four fouls) and come back and sit on the bench again.
So, it seems to me that there must be more to it than that. – Elgin
Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot
Dave, one question.
I couldn’t find a streaming vid link so all I caught of the game was the 2nd period audio.
Therefore your recap is all I have.
The question:
If this had been Game 1 of a seven game playoff series with Dallas, do you think Portland stood a chance to win the series?
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Dallas shot like 90% from the floor (at least it seemed that way)
So I would say yes, in fact I imagine we would be expected to win that series
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Feb 5, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Well, actually only 55% ... HOWEVER,
You can kind of see the same thing with your own eyes as you see in the box score. The stats are almost equal other than shooting percentage. The Blazers just clanged a few more shots than the Mavs. What I felt watching the game was that the Blazers had a kind of strong game but with several letups. The Mavs had no letups whatsoever. They were ON for 48 minutes. It was pretty impressive.
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There's always a chance
but were this a seven-game series I’d guess this would be the game we’d look back on after losing 4-2, saying, “If we had just been able to get our acts together in that one game this all could have been different.”
—Dave
Nah Kidd got lucky tonight
He should have gotten injured. No one who relies on a good PG has a chance against our PG injuring prowess in a 7 game series.
Ha ha
Good point. The magic Bayless touch will strike the opponents’ guards down in the playoffs.
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Both teams are flawed
I’d call it a tossup in 7 games.
I don't like our matchups with Dallas
But I don’t like their mental approach to the playoffs. Given the matchups, they should be able to beat us. Whether they will actually bring a game that would beat us is doubtful.
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To answer my own question ...
… I don’t get discouraged by this game if it is the first game of a playoff series.
Losing the first game on the road is not fatal and it looked as if Portland played fairly well (but not up to their best) for three quarters and completely broke down for one. And even though that’s all you need to lose a game, it is not cause for panic. Particularly so with such a young team.
I can see Nate making some adjustments and Portland winning the next game, to go home to the Rose Garden tied 1-1. The Blazer’s can beat Dallas two out of three at home. That would leave the Mav’s having to win two in a row at home. Those look like surmountable odds to me.
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