24 Games Left: An assessment of Portland's Position Re: the Playoffs
I know I'm infringing on jscot's territory to some degree here, but I thought I'd bring in some more analysis on where the Blazers stand. In this post, I'm making use of work by John Hollinger, Justin Kubatko (who advises the Blazers now) and Coolstandings.com as well as bringing in some of my own amateur analysis.
Part 1: How many wins will it take?
All 3 playoff probability reports linked to above predict the Suns will win 46 games this season. So, if the Blazers end up with 46 wins (a 10-14 finish), they would have roughly a 50/50 shot at the 8 seed. To feel comfortable, they are going to need to finish with closer to 50 wins. All 3 reports predict Dallas to win 48 games. Utah is an interesting case-- coolstandings has the Jazz wining 48, but Hollinger and Kubatko (both of whom give some weight to recent results predict 49 wins for the Jazz). Personally, I predict the Jazz win 50 or more.
If Portland were able to get to 50 wins, that would likely place them between 5th and 7th. For homecourt advantage, the Blazers would likely need 51-52 wins, and it would help to get the tiebreaker over teams like Houston and New Orleans. Speaking of tiebreakers, the Blazers are in a bad position. Let's take a closer look.
Part 2: Tiebreaker Situation
Below I'll examine each of the other 7 non-Lakers Western contenders and the Blazers chances of winning a tiebreaker with that team:
* Denver. The teams have split the season series so far and face each other twice more. Obviously, if one team wins both matchups, that team takes the tiebreaker. If they split, division record is the 2nd tiebreaker. Currently, Denver is 7-2 in the division. They have 7 division games remaining: Portland, @ Utah (back-2-back), OKC, Utah, @ Minnesota, OKC, @ Portland. The Blazers are 6-4 in division and have the 2 Denver games remaining, plus Minnesota, home and home with OKC and a home game with the Jazz. Suffice it to say that if Portland doesn't sweep the last two Denver games, its very unlikely the Blazers will have the tiebreaker. Big big game coming up next week in the Mile High City.
* Utah. The Jazz are 2-1 against Portland this season. To win the tiebreaker, Portland will need to beat the Jazz on March 31st (its in Portland and Utah will be on a back to back, so edge: Blazers) and then finish with the better division record. Unfortunately, Utah is 8-3 in division games. The Jazz have games remaining home to Denver and Minnesota and on the road in Denver, Portland and OKC. To have the tiebreaker against Utah, Portland will likely need to go 5-1 in its remaining division games. Unfortunately, even that might not be good enough because the next tiebreaker is conference games, and Utah has by far the better conference record. So, yeah-- not looking good.
* San Antonio. Series tied 1-1, 2 games remaining. San Antonio has an outstanding conference record, so Portland won't have the tiebreaker without winning the last two games. Unlikely. Update: With the Blazer win today, the tiebreaker will come down to the game on April 8th barring a crazy change in the conference records Still not looking good because its a back-2-back in SA.
* Dallas. This one's easy. Dallas leads the series 2-0, and there's only one game remaining. Doh!
* New Orleans. The teams split the season series 2-2, so it will come down to conference record. NO is 21-14 in conference, Portland is 18-17. Not looking good.
* Houston. Series tied 1-1, 2 games remaining, 1 in each city. Houston is 23-10 in conference, so like the situation with the Spurs, Portland likely needs to win the last two games vs. Houston. Again, unlikely given the Blazers road performance against the West this season.
* Phoenix. The Suns lead the series 2-1, so Portland will need to win at home on March 26th to bring conference record into play. Phoenix will be on a back to back, so edge: Blazers in that one. Additionally, Phoenix is 19-14 in conference, just 2 games ahead of the Blazers, with a lot of tough conference games remaining. So, edge: Phoenix overall, but the Blazers have a shot to win this tiebreaker. In general though, the Blazers are better off not leaving anything up to a tiebreaker.
Part 3: Schedule Analysis
Below I list Portland's remaining games and assign a rough % chance of the Blazers winning it, based on opponent, location and back-2-back situation. These are rough, and there will be plenty of room for disagreement.
Mar 1. San Antonio- 55%. Portland's won this type of game at home all year.
Mar 4. Indiana- 90%. Portland's been great at home vs. losing teams and will be rested. Indy will be on a back to back.
Mar 5. @ Denver- 10%. Back to back and playing a very good team at altitude? Recipe for disaster.
Mar 7. Minnesota- 90%. Minny will be on a back to back.
Mar 9. LA Lakers- 35%. Neither team on a back to back. Portland has been great at home vs. LA the past few years.
Mar 11. Dallas- 65%. Dallas has owned us this year, but we're at home and they'll be on a back to back. I'm tempted to go as high as 70% for this one.
Mar 13. New Jersey- 75%. No back to back for NJ but we should still win at home.
Mar 15. @ Atlanta- 40%. A tough game on the road, but winnable.
Mar 16. @ Memphis- 75%. Both teams on a back to back, so edge to the better team, even on the road.
Mar 18. @ Indiana- 50%. We get a travel day, but this is still a tough road matchup. Its been a while since Portland has won in Indy.
Mar 19. @ Cleveland- 5%. Not that we'd be likely to win anyway, but on a back-2-back, we might as well pull a Poppovich and rest all our starters.
Mar 21. @ Milwaukee- 50%. We're the better team, but Milwaukee is dangerous. This is a tossup game in my book. Could be the difference between a winning trip and a losing trip.
Mar 23. Philadelphia- 80%. Philly plays in Sacramento the night before, boosting our chances.
Mar 26. Phoenix- 75%. Phoenix on a back to back (home to Utah on the 25th).
Mar 28. Memphis- 90%. Grizz will also be in Sac the night before.
Mar 31. Utah- 75%. Utah hosts NY the night before-- they've been bad in back to backs this year.
Apr 3. @ OKC- 55%. This game scares me, even though we should be ready after what happened last time we played there.
Apr 5. @ Houston- 25%. Hard to be optomisitc about this one.
Apr 7. @ Memphis- 75%. We've done well against the teams we should beat this year.
Apr 8. @ SA- 10%. Impossible to be optomistic about a back-2-back in SA. Ends a tough 4 game road trip.
Apr 10. LA Lakers- 50%. The Lakers host Denver the night before, so I'm actually going to give us the tinyest of edges in this one. Basically a tossup.
Apr 11. @ LA Clippers- 60%. Tough back to back if the Clips have Davis/Zbo/Camby healthy. If they are injury decimated again, this percentage obviously goes way up.
Apr 13. OKC- 75%. We should handle them at home, but it might not be easy. They have a rest day before this one.
Apr 15. Denver- 70%. I like our chances for a home win the last day of the season. Denver gets a travel day after hosting Sac on the 13th.
So... I have us favored in 15 games out of the final 24 with another 3 as tossups. I don't expect us to go 17-7 to close the season, but its not entirely out of the question. My gut tells me that 15-9 is more likely, which would mean a 51 win season. The two critical stretches are the 5 game road trip (Atl, Mem, Ind, Cle, Mil) and the 6 game stretch from March 31- April 8 (Utah, @ OKC, @ Hou, @ Mem, @ SA, LAL).
Part 4: Summary
There's a decent chance 47 wins will be enough for the playoffs but Portland would be wise to try to grab another 2-3 to be safe. I believe they can get to 51, which would likely be enough for a 4-6 seed. Portland is in a bad situation tie-breaker wise, which could well cost them a seed and even homecourt, but they aren't in a terrible tiebreaker situation with Phoenix should it come down to that for the final playoff spot.
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You beat my post by one minute :)
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Good analysis
and I don’t think I would have differed more than about 10% on hardly any of your projections. The only ones that really stand out are Dallas and the second L.A. game. I think Dallas has no better chance of winning in Portland on a back to back after playing Utah than we have of winning in Denver on a back to back. Denver and L.A. will both be up for their game, and it could be a war, and the L.A. to Portland back to back is a hard one — takes a while to get to the airport, so they’ll be in quite late that night.
I like us tonight a little more, too, even if Duncan plays, because Manu is out. I’d put it at 60-65% — higher if Timmy is still missing.
I think this kind of individual game breakdown becomes much more useful than my category overviews as the season winds down. I hope you’ll keep this up to date every few games.
Before the Amare injury, I thought it would take 48 or maybe 49 wins to make the playoffs. So far, I can’t see that they’ve been significantly worse without him, so I would definitely not feel comfortable short of 49 wins.
Your percentages add up to about 14 wins. That means you have us more closely favored, on average, than the opposition. I still expect us to get 52-53. That MIGHT be enough for home court.
I also think we’ve got a reasonable shot at winning a tie-breaker against Utah. I’m assuming we go 5-1 against the division, winning our home games and at OKC. Utah loses at Portland (on a back to back) and at Denver, which also gives them five division losses. To win the tie-breaker, they would have to win their home game against Denver (probable), at OKC (they’ve been BAD on the road), and a home game against Minnesota the night after playing at Denver (tough, they’ve lost a couple home games on back to backs to losing teams this year).
Other than Utah, in the tiebreaker category we’re looking like toast. Better just win games.
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This is really good stuff jksnake99!
I like that that you did it in a format that those of us that are not stat geeks can relate to. I did not find even one of your predictions that I disagreed with.
The best part of all is your final prediction: 51 wins!
I predicted 51 wins at the start of the season!
You definitely get a rec from me.
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51 wins would be an amazing season. And to think we can do it with that complete bust Greg Oden on this team. j/k
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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 1, 2009 12:56 AM PST reply actions
I rec the Rec out of this
I “feel” us at 48 wins, maybe because we are young and we might be due to hit a real funk. But this is a good assessment of what we might do, a reasonable yardstick to measure the ups and downs. I’m hoping this stays up so we can refer back to it.
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by Lizzy Lowblow on Mar 1, 2009 2:37 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
well let's not be a homer here
i say 49 w’s=6th.seed vs denver not bad
my pre season call was 49 wins and 6 to 8th seed
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
A fourth projection of the number of wins
Accuscore.com gives the Blazers an 86% chance of making the playoffs. I believe it is even more heavily weighted towards recent results than the other projections.
6
The # of back to back losses for PTB this year. One of those 6 being 3 losses. 2 of the 6 sets of back to back losses came at the beginning of the year against Utah twice, LA and Phoenix.
This team has a nack for fighting back and not letting the lows get too low.
50 or 51 wins, book it
i think i was on for 50 or 51 and a 5 seed
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I’m a little bit more optimistic than you about the win probabilities in many of the games, but 50 wins is fine for me
If my counting proves correct
17 of our remaining 24 games are against teams playing for a spot in the postseason. At the beginning of the season it seemed a safe bet that the eastern conference teams at the end of our schedule would fold but they’re all playing for keeps. No gimmes there. Your 15-9 prediction seems reasonable but it’s a long slog.
I still say 51 and 31
Which is what I said before the season, and seems do-able now.
It’s a nice number, 31 is ultra-lucky, and it’s a great start to a long period of dominance. PLUS, ain’t no way no how no 51 win 31 loss team be missin’ the playoffs, I’ll tell you what.
Mortimer
Dont forget...
there are a bunch of games left for the other teams as well. My biggest concern is what PHX ends up doing. Right now I find myself rooting for the L@kers to beat PHX with a quarter to go in todays game, just so PHX distances themselves further from the rest of the 8 teams ahead of them.
Right now I dont see winning 51 games as a shoe in for the playoffs with the remaining schedule for the current 9 teams in the running. Right now if we lose 1 game and the Mavs win 1 game, we are tied for 8th place.
That scares me more then how many games we end up winning the rest of the season.
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by Blazer on Mar 1, 2009 2:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
there is almost no chance that 51 wins would miss the playoffs-- remember that there are many games left where two western contenders play each other...
… meaning someone has to lose.
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Great break down
I like your thinking on the upcoming games. 51 wins is very realistic for our Trailblazers.
Nice breakdown
If the Blazers play like they did tonight, those tie breakers won’t matter as much.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
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Yeah, seriously
They weren’t perfectly defensively, but they were in a whole different realm defensively tonight than they have been. If this continues, and we can maybe improve on our defense from tonight, that changes everything. They laughed in the face of the Spurs’ defense, and returned the favor with some good D of their own—that’s what needs to happen to win in the playoffs, and to get the most favorable seed.
I'd love to see Home Court Advantage...
…and live in fear of the 9th sead. I started the season saying 51 wins and I still land there. One big X-Factor is whether we might get Martell back at the tail end of the season to be a gunslinger in the playoffs. Either way it is going to be great fun to feel that playoff atmosphere in the RG again!
i just dont expect martell to be a big factor if and when he comes back
being out for the whole season thus far and all
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
I started teh season predicting 49 wins.
I think they will beat that now, but I guess I got to stick with my original prediction…???
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
This was a graduation day of sorts
First time we put it all together against a quality western team,,,playoff preview..coached and played like a playoff game…will still continue to see this group improve…for as well as we did, there’s room still to get better ie:
*Greg’s post play was awful
*Rudy couldn’t hit a 3 – - he Trav and Nic combine for 2-10 from the arc
*In fact Trav was 1-6 all in all but we didn’t mind cause his shots (all but one?) were in rotation, he hit the boards, blocked some shots, got to the line, and D’ed up
- That chucker Bayless with his 2 shots in 7 min will have to learn some self control
In SA seemed like we could beat them if we executed…here we showed we are the better team…Bonner couldn’t cover LMA, Trav or Channing really…Kurt T no better…Roy>Parker…if Duncan couldn’t post Pryz, what are his odds against Greg in the low block…
If this isn’t a confidence booster, what is
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
Yeah, we're a better team
until Manu comes back. Then?
Not this year.
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thanks for the cheery note :-)
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
Not likely to matter this year
Next year, we’ll be better.
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I have a question:
What happens if 8th and 9th have same record?
-Gabby
by ireallylikejerrydbayless on Mar 2, 2009 10:06 PM PST reply actions
thats when the tiebreaker comes into play
first, games against each other,
second, who has the better confrence record
i have no idea what would be the deciding factor if both teams were still tied to that point
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

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