I wish Oden well but....
by NKing on Feb 26, 2009 9:16 AM PST
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I think he has ZERO heart. I got to thinking about what Oden is going to develope into and I think with his injuries it's fair to say that he's going to mold into Brandon Haywood. I know people are going to hate, but it's a decent comparison. Either people love him or hate him. For me he doesn't play inspired basketball and that's dissapointing...here's Haywoods stats, and ironically he's injured right now too, just like oden.
The fact that it's up to him to play right now, and he's not playing irks me. This is when the team needs him, we're jockying for playoff position. grow a pair. The Cowardly Lion needs to go to OZ and get a heart.
haywood career stats.
| Year | Team | G | GS | MPG | FG% | 3P% | FT% | OFF | DEF | RPG | APG | SPG | BPG | TO | PF | PPG |
| 01-02 | WAS | 62 | 2 | 20.4 | 0.493 | 0.000 | 0.606 | 2.3 | 2.9 | 5.2 | 0.5 | 0.3 | 1.5 | 0.81 | 2.50 | 5.1 |
| 02-03 | WAS | 81 | 69 | 23.8 | 0.510 | 0.000 | 0.633 | 2.4 | 2.6 | 5.0 | 0.4 | 0.4 | 1.5 | 0.80 | 2.80 | 6.2 |
| 03-04 | WAS | 77 | 59 | 19.3 | 0.515 | 0.000 | 0.585 | 2.4 | 2.6 | 5.0 | 0.6 | 0.4 | 1.3 | 1.04 | 2.00 | 7.0 |
| 04-05 | WAS | 68 | 68 | 27.4 | 0.560 | 0.000 | 0.609 | 3.0 | 3.9 | 6.8 | 0.8 | 0.8 | 1.7 | 1.41 | 3.20 | 9.4 |
| 05-06 | WAS | 79 | 70 | 23.8 | 0.514 | 0.000 | 0.585 | 2.5 | 3.4 | 5.9 | 0.6 | 0.4 | 1.3 | 1.23 | 2.90 | 7.3 |
| 06-07 | WAS | 77 | 49 | 22.6 | 0.558 | 0.000 | 0.548 | 2.5 | 3.7 | 6.2 | 0.6 | 0.4 | 1.1 | 1.17 | 2.70 | 6.6 |
| 07-08 | WAS | 80 | 80 | 27.9 | 0.528 | 0.000 | 0.735 | 3.4 | 3.8 | 7.2 | 0.9 | 0.4 | 1.7 | 1.35 | 2.70 | 10.6 |
| Career | -- | 524 | 397 | 23.6 | 0.528 | 0.000 | 0.620 | 2.7 | 3.3 | 5.9 | 0.6 | 0.4 | 1.4 | 1.12 | 2.70 | 7.5 |
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Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Feb 26, 2009 9:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
No hate...
But I disagree. Oden already has averages that it took Haywood 4 years to get, plus he doesn’t have the freaky athleticism. I am not totally blown away by the way Oden has played, but I’m certainly not ready to jump off the ship.
by Brandon684 on Feb 26, 2009 9:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
how can you make a comparison between a rookie coming off major surgery that has better stats than a guy in his fourth year?
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on Feb 26, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, spurious comparison
I’m all for critiques of my team, but go back a try again there…this is weak.
by SuperMilk on Feb 26, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
look, part of me is glad that Oden is waiting to come back
look what happened to Blake and Marty when we rushed them back?
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on Feb 26, 2009 9:28 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
no,
just, no.
People will believe a lie because they hope it is true, or because they fear that it is true.
I believe that you are in the 2nd camp my friend. Not to worry.
Comparing Oden to a journeyman center is silly, since Oden produces better that most centers n the league in his rookie season coming off surgery.
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by HurraKane212 on Feb 26, 2009 9:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
hardly a journey man
he’s played for washington his whole career.
by NKing on Feb 26, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a talent level
not always where they’ve played.
For instance, Jack is a journeyman PG
Shaq is not a journeyman C
Blazer's fan since '84, Spurs fan when they are not playing Portland.
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by HurraKane212 on Feb 26, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
Oden is substantially bigger than Haywood.
This is getting ridiculous. Try walking with a chipped patella. Does it hurt? Yeah. Now try running… How does that feel? Now try jumping, shooting, rebounding… Feel any better? Now, do it at NBA speed with an NBA level Center hanging on you for 30 minutes a game and stretch your frame over 7 feet of bones and 300 lbs of body mass, most of which is going to be distributed over your two knees… Then, talk to us about heart.
If he’s not healthy, we don’t want him playing. Amare came back too quick and wound up sitting for most of a second season… Gilbert Arenas… Steve Blake… Webster…
Here’s an idea: if you’re jumping off the bandwagon, just STAY OFF. Oden is the difference between us being a fringe playoff team and a contender come playoff team, so I’m still holding out on the hope that he’ll get inspired when healthy.
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Feb 26, 2009 9:32 AM PST reply actions 14 recs
rek
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Feb 26, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're a homereker.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Feb 26, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rushing back is in no-one's interest...
I am one of those pesky fans who actually goes to all the home games, so I guess my view is skewed because I actually watch these kids play and watch the rest of the league when the Blazers aren’t around or on the tube… Oden is FAR from Brandon Haywood, his game is imressive, when he gets a chance to show it. Oden changes the floor when he is in on defense. The games where Oden gets going offensively you can see how he truly is a man amongst men physically… even though he is still a boy at 21… YES, Oden has missed 11 games this season and he has been hampered in about 10 more due to foul troubles… so the IMPACT from the big-fella hasn’t been consistently dramatic. But please keep a cool head. Brandon Haywood, not even close…
Martell came back once he was cleared and ended up injuring his foot in 5 minutes. Blake came back once he was cleared and reaggrivated his shoulder. Just because the doctors clear them, doesn’t give the players the confidence they need to play.. nor should it. Doctors say will say “well, it looks like it is good to go” but that doesn’t always match with “can you go full speed?” Until Oden is able AND willing to go full speed, let him get that knee under control so we have him for the rest of the season.
Portland has played 57 games so far, Oden has played in 46 with 39 starts and 16 double double’s… and he’s been in foul trouble a lot, which young powerful bigmen like Oden often are before they learn the league and the refs learn them… Why can’t people give him this year to get his feet under him and I am cool with people starting to pass judgement about halfway through next season… that is a fair time frame to judge a #1 overall pick.
by Portland Dynasty on Feb 26, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Roughly...
.31 pts/minute, .06 blocks/minute, .25 rebounds/minute… For Haywood’s career…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Feb 26, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oden is...
.393 points/minute, .06 blocks/minute, .314 rebounds/minute…
So, essentially, Oden has already surpassed Haywood’s career numbers in his first season coming off of microfracture surgery, but I don’t think it’s ever been proven that players, you know, improve as they get older…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Feb 26, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also Oden's minutes are much more limited
Due to foul trouble and Przybilla. I’d imagine they’d be much better if he wasn’t playing 5 minutes at a time between fouls.
by Ghostface_Przybilla on Feb 26, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor… and would have different conclusions written on it that you could jump to!
by abdelnaby on Feb 26, 2009 9:34 AM PST reply actions 14 recs
hahahahahahaha
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Feb 26, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Feb 26, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is great
I just watched this move last weekend for like the 800th time.
by ryryslyry on Feb 26, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know - he played in the GS game after the injury
which shows some heart. He hasn’t felt right yet which means he might be injured.
I look forward to his return for three reasons:
1) he helps the Blazers
2) he is fun to watch and easy to cheer for
3) we may get a respite from the wannabe Shock Jocks comparing him to Bowie or LaRue Martin or Haywood (have you watched Haywood play? I live in DC and have seen him a few dozen times. He and Oden are nothing alike). We may get a break from expert medical opinions suggesting that he “grow a pair”.
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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 26, 2009 9:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Utterly ridiculous
Cowardly lion? HE CHIPPED A BONE IN HIS KNEE. This is not a “soft” injury. The Blazers medical staff has demonstrated far and wide that just because they project someone can come back from an injury at a certain time, that doesn’t make it so. Err on the side of caution.
The one point you made with some validity is that the Blazers need the big guy back, badly. Rebounding goes from a strength to a serious weakness when either Oden or Przy isn’t available. With Oden out, and Przy starting, the second unit gets absolutely owned on the glass.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Feb 26, 2009 10:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
he was cleared to play.
he’s young and needs to sack up. put on the knee pads and be a man….have him come off the bench fo 15-20 a game. He doesn’t need to start or, play 30 mins. We need to stop pampering and whiping his ass. Someone needs to say something to him (BROY and Lamarcus)
by NKing on Feb 26, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wait
when was he cleared to play? He has to go through at least one supervised practice before the Blazers will clear him.
As someone who has had this injury I can tell you knee pads dont help much. Also, it is a slow healing injury as there is not a lot of blood flow around your kneecap.
I think there are a lot of incidences of Oden having “heart” that you are overlooking.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Feb 26, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So were Webster and Blake.
They came back and were injured within five and eight minutes respectively.
I don’t think the Blazers doctors clearance is something to take as reassuring at this point.
by TSE on Feb 26, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Whipping or Wiping? You'd like them to stop one and start the other
Also, say what you mean: throwing out phrases like “sack up” when you mean “play even though you are hurt.” Right? So we may or may not win a game
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 26, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Playing through injuries is almost always a terrible idea.
There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!
by joof on Feb 26, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed - kind of
If he was truly cleared to play, then he should at least suit up, and the Blazers should let Nate decide on how much run to give him. This seems to me that maybe management is holding the strings over both Nate and Oden…which would explain why Nate is frustrated when Oden says he is ready. He is a 21 year old rooking costing the Blazers over $60k per game…I doubt he has that much influence over the Blazers to be able to say if and when he plays. Yesterday I though Oden was being a pansy, but now I think that someone else may be making the decision to baby him.
by clonigro on Feb 26, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man this year can't get over fast enough for Oden
I thought Greg would produce better this year, mostly because while his fouling was going to be an issue, I thought he would be able to make for it with his mobility. Obviously he has not been able to do that, which could be because he is not fully recoverd all of his mobility yet, or it could be because he is just a slow learner. But come on, these, “the sky is falling!” posts about Greg are becoming really annoying, even more so because they are spreading beyond the blog-o-sphere and being reported by the “real” news media like J.Quick as fact.
I blame the Blazers for most of this because they overhyped Greg coming into this season, they led everyone to believe that he was going to avg 20/10 this year, with quotes like, “he is doing things I have never seen before!”. Quick’s “underwelmed” comment is just a byproduct of this hype created by the Blazers. KP may have talent evaluation down, but he has a long way to go with public relations. This is just one of many mistakes he has made on this front, and hopefully he can improve, because if he, as the front of the organization, let everyone know during the preseason, that while Greg is back playing, he wouldn’t be the full version until year 2 or maybe even 3 because of the surgery then expectations would have been in line with how he has played this year. (wow that was a long sentence)
Greg needs to improve, but most of that I believe will come with more time on the court, and more one on one help in practice. He is young, and willing to learn by most accounts, he is putting in the time to be great, now us fans and the media need to be patient and let him grow into it.
by usmcr3049 on Feb 26, 2009 10:10 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
hey usmcr3049
are you ever gonna come back to court rivals, I was your team captain…
by Portland Dynasty on Feb 26, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone watch the NCAA Championship game?
Buckeyes v. Gators
If you saw that game, and were paying attention, you would realize that Oden left it ALL out on the floor. He was dead tired toward the end of that game. He almost single-handedly beat the Gators, who were a great team.
by northwestj on Feb 26, 2009 10:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
i hope he dominated in college...
he’s a lot bigger than most kids his age. The NBA is a MAN league
by NKing on Feb 26, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
whether he dominated or not isn't the argument
The argument is that he had heart and almost single-handedly willed his team to a victory over a ridiculously good Florida team who had Horford- fast becoming one of the best young PFs in the game.
¡AYUDA A RUDY A MATAR!
by beam_us_up_scottie on Feb 26, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Its way to early
to decide on whether he has heart or not.
¡AYUDA A RUDY A MATAR!
by beam_us_up_scottie on Feb 26, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
do you realize
that the gators had 4 players from that team that were drafted that year? 2 of them were good front court players as well and he made them look terrible. Al Horford should thank Oden for his high draft position as he was able to showcase that he has a good mid range jumper as he could not get anything going inside against Oden.
“I know people are going to hate”
That person is you NKing
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Feb 26, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why I have a lot more confidence in Oden becoming a dominant big man
Than Griffin, Hansbrough, Beasley and other undersized guys. Greg is a man in a man’s league. His rebounding has transferred completely from college. What is still lacking is his defense and post moves, which requires speed he currently hasn’t gained back yet.
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 26, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
1.) Rebounding has translated fully
2.) Blocking has translated
3.) Defense is not as good as Oden seems lumbering and a little goofy
4.) Offensive game consists of Dunks, dunks, and other dunks. Oh, and decent free-throw shooting.
5.) Size has translated fully to the NBA as well, can’t forget this…
Oden has elite size and strength for sure. The Athleticism hasn’t fully translated yet because of conditioning and the recovery from mircofracture surgery, the ankle sprain and bone chip are keeping Oden from getting up to the NBA’s game speed. ALthough it is clear that Oden has made strides this season. In fact, one of the recent games I went to I saw Oden turn and run to defend a fast break by a Bobcats guard and Oden actually was fast enough to get back and block the fast break dunk/layup… this is a really athletic move for a big man… THAT is a flash of brilliance that Haywood has never dreamed of.
by Portland Dynasty on Feb 26, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
technically
their 3 points specialist went Pro in europe
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Feb 26, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but in that Florida game
He was battling two NBA players in Horford and Noah.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Feb 26, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And you know about being a MAN exactly how?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 26, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
The only statline that is even remotely similar is the Haywood of ‘04-’05. Haywood’s… uhh… FOURTH season in the league.
04-05 WAS 68 68 27.4 0.560 0.000 0.609 3.0 3.9 6.8 0.8 0.8 1.7 1.41 3.20 9.4
Haywood is not Greg Oden. Brendan Haywood played for four years at North Carolina and was decidedly LESS than dominant as a freshman, whereas Oden had a better one year than Haywood’s best in four tries. He also never reached an NCAA championship game.
Uggh. What a comparison.
I’m going to quietly go away now.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Feb 26, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
High School
his senior year was the last time Greg played a full season, cut him some slack
by Goob on Feb 26, 2009 10:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree you have to wait... the dude has been injured
… but at the same time it isn’t necessarily a positive point that he hasn’t been healthy in three years (especially at his age).
It is silly to project his potential based on half a season in the NBA, which have shown some promising things all the same. On the other hand there are lot’s of things that can easily be interpreted as being worrisome and thus people are questioning his desire etc… I still think you have to give him a few years before you can get a good idea and hopefully he does get healthy and lead us to better things!
by QuebecBlzrFan on Feb 26, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right!
Oden showed no heart playing his senior year at OSU one handed. Only a lily-livered coward would work harder than anybody on the team to rehab from microfracture surgery for month after month to avoid getting back on the court. He should’ve forced his way into the game last night, shedding his street clothes to his uni’s underneath despite not having participated in the team required full practice before returning. He should’ve…
No, wait, I’m being stupid.
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by LaughingJon on Feb 26, 2009 10:41 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Even more drastic
It was his Freshman year, not senior. He is still a child.
by clonigro on Feb 26, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ha
i totally did that every time.
by northwestj on Feb 26, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lack of insight
All of these negative posts regarding Oden are really out of hand. Most of the coverage by Quick has now become outright biased against him. You know someone has lost their objectivity when John Canzano is the voice of reason.
Given the media coverage, it is no surprise the fringe basketball/ PTB fans are jumping on him as well. This is the era we live in, negativity sells. That said one only has to look at the 13w 3 loss record the Blazers have when Oden double doubles. The improvement in rebounding from last year to this year is significant, we are the best offensive rebounding team in the league and have the 2nd or 3rd best rebound differential. This is 90% Oden even with limited minutes he has changed the game for us.
As this team matures and the perimeter defense gets better we will see greater impact on the defensive end from Oden as well. Remember people he is learning the game on the fly at 21years old. His improvement will be substantial. If you doubt it look up some video of Howard his rookie season and compare it to now. Bigs take time in the NBA.
by Odenrising on Feb 26, 2009 11:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Im flagging this post
it is stupid
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
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by BlazerFan1 on Feb 26, 2009 11:42 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
ugh, I dont know what to do
Flag for being inflamatory, or
Rek for truth….
hmm…..
the truth shall set you free
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Feb 26, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry but I don't think this should be flagged.
The guy is simply making a comparison that in his mind makes sense. I agree with you that it is stupid but try to at least provide some constructive criticism as to WHY you think it is stupid, don’t just say that. And if you don’t feel like doing that, then just flag the post and don’t announce it to everyone else that you are going to. I just don’t think that your response was necessary.
by peseme16 on Feb 26, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
bam...
cut downs are always more painful when delivered by attractive women.
My wife, for instance, has mastered the art.
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by HurraKane212 on Feb 26, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oden=
the gentile giant until proven otherwise,he’s the new joe"barely cares"carroll.and for you odenfanboys lay low until proven otherwise book it !!!!
by fatty on Feb 26, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
When you are proven wrong again ...
… don’t impose a sefl-exile. A case of good Oregon or Washington wine will be sufficient.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 26, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry bro-ham
Fact-Oden wanted to be a dentist
Fact-Oden doesn’t celebrate Christmas
Fact-Oden has no hoodie
Fact-Oden’s little baldspot is from years of Yarmulke wear and tear
Book IT!
by mittsabishy on Feb 26, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i'll bet
my nephew’s sophmore tuition he’ll not live up to the messiah status you odenfanboys hold him up too.
by fatty on Feb 26, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
theres deffinatly a good chance that he wont,
but most people are just being fans and HOPING that he will. he wouldnt have been picked number one if it was allways a forgone conclution that Oden would suk
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
by maid tu rek on Feb 26, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He very well may not.
In fact just because of physical limitations I’d be willing to argue the odds are against him becoming the greatest center all time or even cracking the top 10 or 20. A lot of the excitement was generated by his physical size and athletecism. Take away the latter and Greg falls back into the pack.
However, even if he never fully regains that healthy 19 year old explosiveness, he still has a good chance to be a better than average NBA center. And the truth is that’s all he has to be for this team. He has already shown he can rebound and block or alter shots. And while his offensive game is rather limited, he is already a better offensive center than Joel. Finally, lets not forget that it took Pyzbilla about 5 years to learn how to play without constantly getting into foul trouble.
The only thing I see to be even the least bit concerned about is his ability to stay on the court because of injury. And you can’t really knock him for that. The same blessings from God that provided him his size and skills might also have given him limitations. If it turns out his body can’t handle it, so be it. That’s not Greg’s fault.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 27, 2009 7:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yet another silly anti-GO post
You Chicken Littles are going to feel awfully silly in a couple years when GO is dominating the paint on a Blazers championship team. Then again, saying you’ll feel silly presumes that you have a degree of character.
In reality, you’ll have jumped on the GO bandwagon and will be acting as though you were there from Day One.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 26, 2009 1:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
P.S.
There’s nothing sillier than armchair jocks accusing real athletes of not playing thru pain. As if they know what the athlete is feeling!
It may hurt Greg Oden’s feelings when he hears fans or media folks say he can’t play. But when he hears them calling him a wimp, he probably just laughs. That should be comedic relief for the big guy.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 26, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
true true
but my expectations of oden and 99% of this chatroom is night*day.i knew he would’nt be a shaq type of center.to me he’s closer to a 14-12-3.5 type of center.which to me is tremendous productivity,but many people thought of unrealistic #ers of 27-10-2 which for this kid will never happen.
by fatty on Feb 26, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
One: who cares? 14-12-3.5 is all the Blazers will need from their starting center in order to contend
Two: Greg Oden will average at least 20 ppg. He’ll get 14 ppg just from put-backs & alley oops. As you would say, “Book it!”
Three: Who said GO would be a Shaq-level center? I never read ANYONE around here predict that for him, let alone 99% of us. GO was drafted to be the missing piece on a contender—the force in the paint that complements and supports Roy, LMA, Rudy, Bayless, Batum, et al. This team has a load of young talent that will only improve going forward. GO won’t HAVE to be Shaq.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 26, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was me
I’ve often said that Oden > Russell. I’m willing to bet I’ve said that at least seven times.
I da man!
by Dragline on Feb 26, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Way to go out on a limb.
With your betting.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 27, 2009 7:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take 14 - 12 - 3.5 any day of the week.
My excitement about Oden wasn’t because I thought he was sure to be the greatest center of all time, but because I thought he would anchor the middle of the team’s defense and give us a definite advantage in rebounding. He’s already shown a good deal of the latter. It’s far too soon to think he will never be capable of the first.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 27, 2009 7:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You sound like Kobe
the summer before a certain center’s breakout season. Oden could be a late bloomer like Drew Bynum. It took 2 1/2 yrs for him to finally put everything together. And at that age, these guys are still acquiring life skills, socializing with their peers and the public, and trying to balance all of that with dealing with the media, living up to expectations, and improving themselves on the basketball court.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
by ignign*kt on Feb 26, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
earlier today at a different (nonsports) website they explained why they don't have comments
and the basic stated was: it’s too easy for them to be dominated by unpleasant people posting anonymously over and over.
i looked up someone here who i seldom agree with and this person has posted (commented) well over 11,000 times. all basically the same negative points repeated again and again, overwhelming anyone who isn’t a disciple.
and this “noise” gets back to the players. wonderful.
ignacio
by ignacio on Feb 26, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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