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Confessions of a ex-L*kers Fan

So I have been working on this piece since the Blazers beat the Celtics earlier this season.  I wanted to share what may be a different perspective from a Blazer fan who arrived here in a different fashion.

Star-divide

  First, of all, as the title suggests, my formative years were spent throughout Southern California as a fan for the Showtime dynasty of the 80’s.  I was a fan of all the LA sports team as kids tend to be fans of their home town team.  Plus, it was easy to like home teams when win multiple championships in each professional sport.

I was just a kid and as I grew up and the 90’s brought change to those LA teams.  Magic Johnson was always my favorite player, and it was tough how he left the game.  Since I am bookish (coughcoughNERDcough), I spent my teen and early adult years in the mid-90’s gradually caring less and less about sports.  It again didn’t hurt that every LA team sucked through most of the 90’s (and entirely by the mid-90s).  By the time I graduate college, my childhood favorites:  the L*kers become relevant again in the NBA and look out…  there I am with a ready-made band wagon to jump on and enough childhood friends and an older brother who were very go-Lakers all-the-way all-the-time.

But I couldn’t get into it..  I didn’t (and don’t) like Shaq or Kobe.. and Phil bothered me as I always blamed (perhaps irrationally) losing what basketball meant to me as a child on the Bulls in the 90’s.  It was also part of something bigger.  Time away from being a fan and the sentiment following the NBA strike season made it easy to continue ignoring sports.  I do not know all of the reasons, but I didn’t and never could find any emotional connection between the L*kers of the past decade and the team I loved growing up..

In 2001, I moved to Portland for graduate school.  I grew to love watching basketball again.  It started due to scientific interest and I quickly realized that I loved watching and analyzing basketball regardless of what I knew about the players but could not find the interest to watch other sports.  I found that I didn’t even need to be a fan of any team to enjoy watching basketball and began watch more and more basketball.

By the time December 9, 2004 came around, I was in prime shape to see my first game at the Rose Garden, and my first live pro NBA game since the GW Forum in 1991.   I wasn’t really a Blazer fan yet.. at the time I just wanted to watch an NBA basketball game.  And what a game it was.. they were down by one point with barely any time left and Shareef hit a three pointer off the inbounds.  Apparently, the Blazers had 62 rebounds that game and according to this it was the last game a Celtic opponent got 60+ rebounds.  It was also the last time the Blazers beat the Celtics (definitely in the RG, possibly at all?) until this season, which is why I started this post after the win against the Celtics.

Needless to say, I got the experience a whole lot of home crowd good vibes in that game.  I went to a couple games the next season and really liked the direction the team seemed to be heading even though that was the brutal 21 win season.  I bought a quarter season pack in Roy’s rookie season, and loved watching LMA and Roy grow to be able to more than make up for getting rid of Zach in just their second years.  Became a season ticket holder following the winning of the draft lottery and continue to be.  I brought my parents, sister, and wife into Blazermania and now it is one of the most dominant topics of conversation.  We annoy the heck of my still L*ker loving older brother and several old time friends with the fact that we join in with the ‘Beat LA’ chanting.

So why did I write this?  I wanted to share my story and a unique perspective on the development of this team and the dual importance of winning AND how you play the game.  I grew up loving my winning home team but eventually wanted no part of my ex-home team (despite three-peat’n success).  Yet I grew to love the game and it was through love of the game that I found a home team in my new home town.

It is easy to worry about whether or not they are wasting opportunities to win more now, but I have completely enjoyed this journey.  It began with enjoying the game, then respecting the organization, then liking the team that was being put together.. and now..

Go Blazers!!

 

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from the errors of his past ways.

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by jscot on Feb 23, 2009 9:54 AM PST reply actions  

damn

not only did I forget to mentioned LMA and Martell (and Shav ) and Sergio!!

but I think I could have incorporate the word ‘win’ into the rhyme on the first set of couplets but oh well you get the point

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

hmmm

mentioned → mentioned
and paint → point..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL best ever

Words cannot describe.

Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.

by prezofdeath on Feb 23, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks!

i am slightly remiss in that I did not give credit to Hank Williams for inspiration on the lyrics..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I new that reminded me of something....

HW

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Feb 23, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Naw, you did yourself proud

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Feb 23, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Brothers, let us Pray.

May we all ride this PTB rocket ship to the Promised Land.
Amen

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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by Blazer1342 on Feb 24, 2009 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Brother Idoltime has seen the light

Hallelujah Brother Idoltime, Hallelujah

This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Feb 23, 2009 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

oh yea

another interesting note from December 9, 2004..
I remember that I was watching this amazing ending of a game between the Spurs and the Rockets on TNT on the TVs in the Garden right before tipoff (the Blazer/Celtic game was the second TNT match that night). When I finally went in for tipoff, it seemed as though the Spurs had managed to hold off T-Mac who just had no time to complete his amazing attempt at a come-back. During the Blazer game, I saw that the Rockets ended up winning the game!!!! Later on I watched the end of the game and saw that TMac ended up having 13 points in 33 minutes to win the game (the back to back to back 3pt, 4pt, and 3pt plays was ridiculous)

anyway.. what a day for basketball..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

33 seconds.. ;) but yeah

pretty amazing….

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Feb 23, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

hah! oh yea how about that!

13 pts in 33 minutes sounds like a pretty bad night for ol’ TMac unless he picked up 9 dimes in the same contest.. (although I’m sure they’d take it now)

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow what a story

I am not surprised to hear this what so ever!

Thanks for sharing

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Feb 23, 2009 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

glad to share it

but my curiosity finally wins out.. what do you mean by…

I am not surprised to hear this what so ever!

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm surprised

I mean, looking at it make sense from our perspective, but really, abandoning a team while they are winning championships takes some strong convictions. The reason was good, but the rewards for sticking with them would have been as well. I guess if the passion isn’t there, it isn’t there.

I like whatever metric makes a Blazer look better.

by einman77 on Feb 23, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

you nailed it

passion is clearly not generated the same way every time.. My brother and I were just crazy mad insane through the repeat year of 87-88. You couldn’t rip me away from a game. But when my brother was looking for me in 2000 and probably wanting me to watch the game that ended up being the game that none of you mention as well as the rest of that run. And I was aware of what was going on but I just felt too removed from it all. I went from an 11 year old going crazy with the first repeat championship season in 20 years to a 23 year old who was newly married and graduated from college.

And my team had went from what had felt like the most perfectly constructed unit of skill and grace that defined Showtime.. to a very different feeling team under Phil.. from Magic and Kareem… to a punk kid and a goofy giant… from the GWF to gawddamn Staples Center.. everything had just changed too much.

So it is important from a relationship view point to note that I was fully broken up with my previous team before I got into this team. The Blazers aren’t just a rebound team when I hit a rough patch with the L*kers.

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You is now us

“probably wanting me to watch the game that ended up being the game that none of you mention”. :-)

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Feb 23, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yes it is very weird when refering to the past

I have caught between seeming as if I am not fully committed to the Blazers and trying to claim fan ownership for years when I wasn’t a fan..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I have noticed

in my movement from a Lxkers fan to a Blazers fan that it was very gradual and took a long time. My exeunt was hastened by the group Dunleavy coached, that beat the Blazers in the WCF in 1991 and then lost to the Bulls. But I never liked rooting for Shaq (Goliath) and Kobe (the NBA’s Keyshawn Johnson). – Elgin

Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot

by 22baylor on Feb 24, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that Shaq-ball was ugly basketball

The officials flat let Shaq bulldoze his way to the hoop. And the shame was that Shaq didn’t really need that advantage. Like Wilt before him, he could have developed finesse to go with his power. He did have the ability.

As for Kobe: like you said, what a punk kid. He still is today, in my view.

So I’d say your difficulty in rooting for that version of the Lakers is perfectly understandable. As for your having rooted for other LA teams, that’s a little harder for any right-thinking person to accept. But clearly you didn’t know any better; you were a product of your environment.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Feb 23, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Shaq ball is beautiful like an unstoppable running game in the NFL against a good defense is beautiful...

The low post is all about size and strength and power and intensity and violence and will and Shaq has been a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful thing to behold…

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 25, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

.................... and courage. I forgot courage.

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 25, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I meant to imply that

im not suprised you became a blazer fan after living /schooling in Portland.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Feb 24, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

ah yea!

Portland sucked me in very quickly and Blazermania wasn’t too far behind..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 24, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

This made me cry a little

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by Honka Playboy on Feb 23, 2009 11:02 AM PST reply actions  

Ah, no sense throwing out the baby with the bathwater...

Lakers aren’t direct rivals with the Blazers, that would be Denver and Utah.

Root for them both, works for me.

More bookish than you,

t

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 23, 2009 11:17 AM PST reply actions  

I've tried!!

The teams I hated most growing up were the Pistons and the Celtics.. and I couldn’t even bring myself to root for the L*kers against them in the recent Finals! I wasn’t rooting for any of them.. just watching basketball at that point..

At this point, I think I’m closer to a part-time Spur fan than L*ker fan because I really respect the organization and how they put themselves in a great position to win championships during every part of Duncan’s career.

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

My Celtic hatred runs too deep

My sweet wife was pulling for KG’s first title, but no – I could not join her. Those Celtic uniforms are just so wrong. – Elgin

Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot

by 22baylor on Feb 24, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Denver and Utah have been division rivals for like 3 or 4 years

the l*kers were division rivals for over 30 years before realignment, and the playoff clashes between them and the Blazers still makes them far more of a rival than either the nugs or jazz.

A three-pointer is not a "triple." A triple is a hit in baseball.

by GustyJ on Feb 23, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

that's pretty blasphemous

Game seven WCF 2000. No self respecting Blazer fan in that game could ever root for a l*ker ever again.

¡AYUDA A RUDY A MATAR!

by beam_us_up_scottie on Feb 23, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Do not speak

of the game of which WE SHALL NEVER SPEAK. Geez, talk about blasphemy, you just committed a Cardinal F**king sin. It hurts my soul to relive that. even for a moment. And you are right, the Lakers can never be redeemed in my eyes, they will always be my most hated enemies. I hope they never win anything ever again.

Blazers Prophecy.
3-5 championships in next decade.
You heard it here first.

by mjm6783 on Feb 23, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

In fact

me reading that post temporarily blinded me, need to call my therapist now. I had put that game out of my mind.

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Feb 23, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

There were two words in that paragraph that should have been censored...

And sadly, you didn’t censor the more offensive of the two. My eyes and my psyche are both in pain.

A three-pointer is not a "triple." A triple is a hit in baseball.

by GustyJ on Feb 23, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

There you go again

picking a contoversial stance. I can’t believe you stoop that low as to root for… them. I really question how you can be a fan of the Blazers if you can be a fan of… that team. Sometimes I really think think you come on this blog for a bigger stage. I mean you know a lot about this team, but you usually only try and use your knowledge to push people’s buttons. Normally I try and let it go, but really I see no way that anyone can be both a flakers and Blazers fan. Maybe if someone is just a caual watcher with no loyalty. Outside of that, you can’t like the Yankees and Red Sox, can’t like the Eagles and the Cowgirls, and you can’t like the Blazers and… them. That’s just how it goes.

I like whatever metric makes a Blazer look better.

by einman77 on Feb 23, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe this will help...

I grew up in Northern California in the early 1970s… Baseball: A’s not the Giants and the Orioles not the Yankees because my old man was a Yankees fan from his boyhood, say no more. Football: Raiders not the 49ers, because, really, why would you root for John Brodie? And the Baltimore Colts, because they were from Baltimore, see above. Basketball: Lakers, not the Warriors, who sucked, and the Bullets, see above. And the ABA was cool, I liked the Kentucky Colonels although they weren’t on TV much.

Basketball was always the third sport for me, in some years replaced by hockey.

Moving to Oregon in 1977, I found the Blazer freaks in my school to be obnoxious cultists. NEVER liked the Walton Blazers or watched basketball at all in those years. I got into BB again in college, going to OSU — Ralph Miller. Hot and cold for Basketball ever since, STILL never liking the Blazers.

Got back into basketball pretty hot and heavy for Shaq and Kobe, who would have had 7 championships together if they didn’t blow it up… Blazers subsequently OK to watch because they were on TV a lot. REALLY into them only 6 or 7 years, something like that — of which the suckage was so bad for a few that they weren’t worth watching.

Lakers are the team of my boyhood, the team that brought me back to the pro game, and the team I will be rooting for to kick Kevin Garnett’s obnoxious butt in the championship this year. If that pushes your buttons, sorry about that.

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 23, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

wow

now I’m getting tempted to add a poll about how many people were always Blazer fans and how many came through some other means..

but I just don’t have the energy to do it now.. maybe a junk drawer post down the line..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

You justify rooting for the Lakers because you grew up in Northern California?

Sorry, Timbo but that doesn’t cut it. I’m FROM Northern California, and self-respecting folks from those parts hate LA teams even more than Oregonians do. I used to attend Giants games at which 40,000 fans chanted in unison, “F*** the Dodgers!” They even wore t-shirts proclaiming that sentiment. [Sorry Dave, but I couldn’t bring myself to edit that.] When you say “…Lakers, not the Warriors, who sucked” you say it all: you’re a frontrunner, a bandwagon jumper.

Having said all that, I have to admit I agree with you about Kevin Garnett. Does that mean that I’ll root for the Ugly One and his misbegotten teammates to beat the Lakers, should those loathsome franchises meet in the Finals again this season? No, I have a better solution to that moral dilemma: changing the channel.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Feb 23, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Lived in Oakland for the past 2 years. There are lots of Kobe jerseys around but those are definitely bandwagon jumpers like timbo. The dubs have a really great fan base.
Also I don’t get why everyone hates so hard on the Cs.

by kickbrass on Feb 24, 2009 6:14 AM PST up reply actions  

For me, at least, it's pretty much Kevin Garnett

Maybe all those years of losing in Minn. warped him—I dunno. But he’s become kind of demented. Certainly, he’s now a cheapshot artist and unrelenting trash talker. Plus all the theatrics—ughh. Do you think Garnett’s idol, Bill Russell, had to parade around the court smashing his head into things and screaming at air in order to psych himself up to play?

Oh, and I never liked Danny Ainge. Nasty player—e.g, his infamous smashing of Mario Ellie in the face with a basketball “fastball.”

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Feb 24, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not talking about Giants/Dodgers, although I have appropriate Fs for both those teams...

………………………. on the North Coast, SF and LA are BOTH Southern California. Trust me, it’s true!

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 25, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

No, I'm saying kids are discerning consumers of sports entertainment...
When you say "…Lakers, not the Warriors, who sucked" you say it all: you’re a frontrunner, a bandwagon jumper.

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 25, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

that's definitely true

I think Northern California begins around Redding

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 25, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

grew up a Rams fan

also hated John Brodie. – Elgin

Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot

by 22baylor on Feb 24, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

When he was good, he was way too good. – Elgin

Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot

by 22baylor on Feb 25, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Idoltime!

I kinda have a similar story..from central cali…loved the l@kers with Magic, Worthy, Jamaal Wilkes with his ugly..but effective jumper etc….I also dropped off from basketball during the Boobie Cryant(as my boyz call him)/Shaqfest years…I moved here in Dec 2004 and on my third day here I got invited to a Trail Blazer game (evidently tix were easy to get…as I then got free ones from buying a burrito at Moes that year!)..never the less I got hooked….from then it just got better..B Roy, KP etc. I tell everyone about this team..My wife is a Blazer freak and so is her good friendnow ..they kinda scare me actually! BlazerMania is contagious!!! Go Blazers!!!!

by blazersrock on Feb 23, 2009 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

yes!!!

In some ways, my family made me more of a fan. I started out kind of reserved and.. well.. bookish.. about it all. But my wife and mom really just wanted to go rah-home-team really loud, and they were like a flood once I got them going they pulled me even further!!

in that way, Blazermania is a lot like conjunctivitis!!

Good to know there are a few fellow ex-’ers out here!!

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Nicely explained

I love these personal histories of Blazer fans. I like learning how the franchise and sport play a role in various people’s lives. I wrote one of these up a while ago, and I’ll just share it again should anyone like to read another story.

A spiral into Trail Blazer fandom

< /war >

by Diesel10 on Feb 23, 2009 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

thanks for sharing that post!

That’s also an interesting perspective that I got to experience as I was becoming a Blazer fan and looking to read about the changes that happened in the Blazer organization since 2004.

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved this story.

Anyone who writes these sorts of things:

-Perhaps because of the direction from which my fandom grew, I am very much set against bringing in big free agents. Phrases like “All-Star,” “marquee,” “legit,” and “big name” make me shudder and turn away. I love the fact that Portland is a bit of a small backwater when it comes to the NBA. I like the lack of national spotlight coupled with intense focus from local media. I enjoy the way the team grew last year, slowly, organically, but together. I love building through the draft, teaching the players what you want, and then retaining them while they prosper. I would relish it if we slowly grew a contender over a few years, without any big media stories surrounding a free agent acquisition or trade, only to suddenly explode onto the championship tier with the same pieces that we’ve held for a while. Don’t get me wrong, a key veteran teacher here and there would be immensely helpful, but I don’t want an over-the-top player to come in and put a stamp on a championship mold that we had been patiently grooming.

-I love Oregon. I think it is the best state in the nation and one of the greatest places on the planet. If players don’t want to play here because of whatever perceived lack of lifestyle, that is fine with me. I don’t want someone who cannot appreciate the wonderful standard of living in a city like Portland. A player who is not happy with his locale is not a player that will be performing at his highest. For that reason, I gained a lot of respect for Magloire at the end of last season. While he was talking about wanting to stay with the Blazers, one of his frequent comments was how much he loved the city and how great it would be to raise a family here. I understand letting him go, and am not really sorry about it, but that view was more endearing to me than much of his basketball skills and shortcomings.

 . . . would have been proud to be a fan during the early 80s. That lost era after the championship and before Clyde Drexler. – Elgin

Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot

by 22baylor on Feb 24, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

plus boston's uniforms looked so OLD

and they always had several uncool white guys like jerry sichting and scott wedman who were just very difficult to root for. and bird seemed like an arrogant redneck.

ignacio

by ignacio on Feb 23, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I actually rooted for the L's to beat that team

But I rooted for the Bad Boys to beat the L’s. I loved watching Laimbeer’s antics getting under the L’s skin. He was like a pro wrestling bad guy. He’d start fights, then run behind Rick Mahorn or a ref and watch the other guy get kicked out of the game. Out of all the fights Laimbeer started, he never had to throw a punch. Too funny.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Feb 23, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

God yeah....he was like Lamarcus on Meth...

could drive the length of the floor with the ball at 6’11"….rememeber him as #11 think he played awhile on the KNicks….Spencer Haywood could almost guard him if I remember

"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07

by LetsBlaze on Feb 23, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

mcadoo was a great player

when you look at the flow of talent that went through LA between 79 and 89 – it’s pretty ridiculous..

sometimes when my Blazer homerism is in full gear I can totally imagine the Blazers winning 4-6 championships between 2011 and 2021… and doing it with more intact pieces than any other dynasty team ever..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Once a L*ker fan.....

hmmm…. I just can’t afford the benefit of the doubt on this one.

I had a rather heated exchange once with a friend who flip-flopped his favorite NFL team to another a few years back. I found this to be not only downright traitorous but entirely unbecoming of the devoted fan he used to claim to be.

Now its just uncomfortable silence whenever the subject of either team comes up.

….. ….. . …… … … … … . .. .. . . .

"Travis is so cool in the clutch that the ice-water running through his veins has stopped global warming in its tracks."-- jscot

by bow4meow on Feb 23, 2009 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

growing up I would have agreed

I always thought I’d always love my LA teams..

and if I cared about baseball.. I would root for the Dodgers.. it was nice seeing them do well last year, but I can’t actually sit through a baseball game anymore..

and I would probably watch NFL football if I considered them legit but its tough when you don’t have a LA team..

All I can say is that I only flipped.. I never flopped.. I haven’t considered the L*kers as my team in a long time.. it turned out that once ‘the Magic’ was gone, it was gone for good..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

gag me

sorry, once a quisling always a quisling

Oderint dum metuant

by WhiteRabbit on Feb 23, 2009 10:02 PM PST reply actions  

perhaps I was hasty

but still…..

Oderint dum metuant

by WhiteRabbit on Feb 23, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

quisling?

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Feb 23, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

clarification

Quisling, after Norwegian politician Vidkun Quisling, who assisted Nazi Germany to conquer his own country, is a term used to describe traitors and collaborators. It was most commonly used for fascist political parties and military and paramilitary forces in occupied Allied countries which collaborated with Axis occupiers in World War II, as well as for their members and other collaborators

"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07

by LetsBlaze on Feb 23, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

further

In American English, the term is less well known than the equivalent phrase “Benedict Arnold”

"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07

by LetsBlaze on Feb 23, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

as a 1/4 Norwegian/American and amature history buff I feel remissed at not knowing this…. thanks again. I do remember reading about that story, really, it didn’t click for some reason and I kept thinking about goslings…

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Feb 23, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

given the definition of quisling (thanks LetsBlaze!)

I would say that my team betrayed me more than I betrayed my team..

given that neither of us really betrayed the other

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry I guess I thought the term was more widely known then it is

how did they betray you? You just didn’t like the coach and the players, so you dropped them. it just doesn’t sit right with me. Who is to say you won’t ditch the Blazers as soon as you lose interest? It happened before, maybe if you were a former Bucks fan.

ok I am done, I reserve the right to give you a hard time about it, but I hadn’t had the opportunity to drop a Q-bomb lately and this seemed like a good time to do so. more so then me feeling like I wouldn’t :“let” you be a Blazers fan or anything

Oderint dum metuant

by WhiteRabbit on Feb 24, 2009 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

betrayed me by selling out team basketball

for flashy superstars with no respect of the game..

and I clearly granted all the right to give me a hard time by making a post like this..

the reality is that they didn’t betray me.. I just grew up and saw that what I thought my team was and it wasn’t.. to be fair. you only grow up once so I don’t know why I would ditch the Blazers as soon as I lose interest. But I was a Lakers fan from 80-95, not a fan of basketball from 95-2003 and only a general fan of the game until the Blazers caught me in 2005.

Tell you all the truth.. if I were a Blazer fan in the 80’s I probably would have ditched the team during a similar period of time – not entirely impressed by the 2000 Blazer team either. and possibly came back.. or maybe in that Alternate viewpoint I move to Atlanta and become a Hawk fan.. sounds like a hard life..

and truth be told.. I wouldn’t be likely to put up with being a Blazer fan if they traded everyone for ‘melo, Kobe, Miller, Kopono, and ben Wallace.. i certainly wouldn’t be a season ticket holder at that point.. Pure fandom is not in my blood anymore.. I choose this team because of the qualities it possesses.

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 24, 2009 6:03 AM PST up reply actions  

trust me

you don’t want 98% of L*ker fans to join the red & black.. a pretty snotty bunch with questionable basketball iq and commitment..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

quite the koolaid drinkers

But I can respect Blazermania because it never seems fueled by meanness..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 23, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

This is me

exactly, except I was from central coast CA and moved to PDX in ’96. I became a Blazer fan by accident, just sorta snuck up on me.

by Marvin100 on Feb 23, 2009 10:51 PM PST reply actions  

I grew up in SF rooting for the Warriors

I stuck with them for my first couple of years in Portland. But I hated what Nellie and the Warriors’ idiot owner did to the team. Meanwhile, I got to like the Blazers—especially Jerome Kersey (I’m a sucker for that type of player). After awhile, I only rooted for the Warriors when they played the Blazers. Then before I knew it, I’d crossed that final frontier and lost all allegiance to my hometown franchise.

The conversion process took about 3 years, I guess. Even the Jailblazers weren’t enough to shift me back, but I wasn’t wild about that group. While their playoff meltdown vs the Lakers was excruciating, on some level I felt it revealed the team’s character. In my view, even had they won that fateful game, they’d have blown it in the Finals.

It took Brandon Roy’s first game to make me a true Blazer fan, I guess. I love this team as much as I did the Warriors of my childhood. And that’s saying something.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Feb 24, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions  

awww...

I am missing my central coast reds and that Pismo sun in the afternoon…….ok…..back to the beautiful rain and the green trees!…and air I can’t see!

by blazersrock on Feb 24, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the problem with the jailblazers was that they all wore the blazers unis,

but they never really became part of the brand. Even Scottie who represented this franchise well was alwas a bull before he was a blazer. But with this team, IDK there’s just something…right… about Roy wearing a blazers jersey. Maybe it’s just because I’ve never seen him in another NBA team’s jersey (and I hope that never happens), but there’s just something about him that fits the blazer brand….ugh I hate intangibles but I think that may just be what I’m talking about. Rudy is another guy who I think really belongs in a blazer uni. And the other guys on this team belong in the uniform as well, just maybe to a lesser extent. Anyway to cease my incessant ramblings. There are certain players who just make sense playing on their teams. Kobe with the Lakers, James with the Cavs, Wade with the Heat, etc. I feel that Roy is a similar type of player who makes himself iconic for his franchise, and I’m excited that we have a player that’s both good enough and charismatic enough to do that.

by premthegrem on Feb 24, 2009 12:38 AM PST reply actions  

I generally don't like the NBA as a whole much at all

But I love this franchise and what it means to this city. Always have, always will. Even when she was out whoring herself to the likes of JR Rider and Qynetel Woods, I still loved her. Couldn’t be with her, but still loved her.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Feb 24, 2009 8:20 AM PST reply actions  

great point

It’s a feeling I never got living in LA or San Diego. Between the variety of sports and the weather and the tourism/entertainment industry.. there are just more things to occupy people’s time. A much lower density of fans for any particular sport team..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 24, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

hilarious final antedote on this topic

last night I get this text from my mom during the game:

having 2 beat la shirts held at vanc joes. we’ll send picture to your brother

Just 25 years ago we were both L*ker fans and now we enjoy messing with my LA loving brother.

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 25, 2009 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

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