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Junk Drawer 2/22/09 - Individuality and Identity

TiR convinced me to start a junk drawer about an essay i just wrote about individuality and identity. This essay was based off of an excerpt from a book by Kwame Anthony Appiah called The Ethics of Identity. Appiah himself is a homosexual and discusses how society recognizes/reacts to/treats minorities and stereotypes. He also discusses how we find out our identities and our journey towards becoming who we eventually will be in life and when we do, how not to make that identity a straightjacket.

"The final responsibility for each life is always the responsibility of the person whose life it is." No matter how social the individuality of a person is, they are still the one who calls the shots in their life, they choose their 'plan of life', their path (although Appiah goes on to discuss how the things around us can sometimes play a large role in our identity). Self-contradiction is also mentioned: we want to ace that anatomy exam, but we don't want to study for it on a sunny afternoon.

Hard work, family and friends, lifestyle, upbringing, and many other things factor into who we may become individually. If your dad is a lumberjack, you may become a lumberjack (or not). If you are raised in a Christian home, you will most likely attend church and read the Bible. That's just how life is.

In todays society, race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.. all are still used as collective social scapegoats and crutches that some people sadly still use to place blame on and look down upon others. All men are created equal, right? Why do people got to be hatin'? I have a beard, some people call me out for it, saying beards are gross and that they smell. No. They are cool and are a universal logo of wisdom.

Society generally dislikes discussing "controversial" or "rough" topics like this, like what Appiah discusses in his book. Today is a gameday and I don't expect people to want to discuss the ethics of identity or individuality on this site. I'm just appeasing Toms appetite for varied discussion and thirst for controversy. So now I ask you what Tom asked me: do you think identities (race, gender, etc.) constrain our ability to be individuals, or enable it? I'm sorry that this is poorly put together and probably doesnt make sense, i whipped this together in like 45 minutes. I'm all over the place tonight and am very tired. good night and GO BLAZERS.

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Who is your favorite character on Lost?
Jack
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Kate
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Sawyer
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Sayid
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Hurley
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Ben
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Juliet
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Claire
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Sun
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Jin
0 votes
Locke
8 votes
Desmond
4 votes
Daniel Faraday
4 votes
Charlie
1 votes
Richard Alpert
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Jacob
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The Smoke Monster
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Gilligan
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and that's why you come to the Bedge folks,

to learn that beards are the universal logo of wisdom.

Speaking of beards… this guy had a nice one.

by tominrehab on Feb 22, 2009 4:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

How could Good Ol' Uncle Ho be "The Victor" when he was dead?

Isn’t there some rule about that?

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 22, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

................. The Ben Kenobi principle, perhaps?

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 22, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh

You make me laugh – Elgin

Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot

by 22baylor on Feb 22, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My problem with individuality and identity is not so much if the result would be controversial for most people, more that I could imagine so many versions of myself

I could imagine quite a few careers in which I could have been successful. Or on a less professional level, quite a number of sports that I might be successful in but either never tried out because I didn’t grow up where those were popular or never mastered from an amateur and semi-professional to a professional level. So many things to do, so little time (or so far back in time that the path diverged). It doesn’t help that I’m rather perfectionistic and tend to maximize. If I have made a decision, it can happen that I think about what could have been if I had chosen differently even if that is unrealistic.

To that end, I’m quite fascinated with people who pretty early in life discovered that they have one special talent or were born into circumstances that made them succeed at a young age. Maybe they also could have led completely different lives, but they found out that they can gain a lot of pleasure and/or success (financial or otherwise) from what they did and stuck with it. Since repetition is important to becoming really good at something, I believe that helps a lot to stay focused on the big goals. Some people rebel against clear career paths (could be a reason why many child stars end up rather unsuccessful later), for others it is liberating. While I do have quite some talents and successes and things to do that I enjoy, I’m not sure I have yet found what I’m better at than most people and that would really define me.

Sorry if that misses your topic, but it’s something I’m thinking about quite a lot lately.

Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul

by Norsktroll on Feb 22, 2009 6:13 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

You got it Norkstroll.

You hit on a lot of what i wrote in my essay. the plans of life and career path aspects of individuality and how society and environment play a role in deciding our careers.

You should read the Ethics of Individuality if you’ve got time. It’s pretty slow at times but it’s got a lot of great messages and Appiah is really caught up on things, culturally. He even uses some basketball references if I’m remembering right.
 

"I saw him in the face"

by RoodiePhirnandizz on Feb 22, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The truth

I batted .813 in little league. One strikeout and one walk for the whole year. Then one more each in the playoffs which we won 3-2. I scored 2 runs, and then never played again due to meeting new friends.
It wasn’t until many years later that I understood how special that was – so yeah, I’ve wondered about alternate universes where I made the right choices.

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"

by Blazer1342 on Feb 23, 2009 1:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t believe nobody around here would not challenge an .813 batting average,

none the less it is true. A neighborhood friend at the time said "Hey, they post the numbers in the paper". So we looked it up and they had "Mr. All-star" leading the league with a .565 average. So we calculated my average again to make certain it was right, at the time I was 21 for 25. Put that in your calculator, it’ll smoke it. Mr All-star was on my team that year and went on to break several records in the following years in all sports. I never was in the paper and having broken my hand two years in a row in football finally became a cross-county runner.

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"

by Blazer1342 on Feb 23, 2009 5:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When I was a kid I used to dream about inventing a machine which enabled my inner self (whatever that is) to be transported into the bodies and lives of other people

I was fascinated with the idea of becoming another person for a few hours while retaining just enough of my own identity to allow me to return to my own life when I wanted to. I used to get lost in conundrums about what constituted my own real identity and how I could retain it even while fully assuming the identity of another. In the end I decided that an identity switching machine would be dangerous because after switching into another person’s identity I might forget who I really am and never return to myself.

Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men... They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers. They have no vision, and when there is no vision the people perish.
FDR

by fisheyes on Feb 22, 2009 6:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Choosing an identity

It’s funny that we make a few decisions as young people to determine our identity, and often spend the rest of our lives pondering what we did.

I wonder if our identities do enable our individual – if the choices about who we are are correct. Or the negative example, if we are analytical and systems oriented and we decide to be an actor, then the identities will constrain the individual, if I’m getting this right.

Seems a lot of us realize along the way that we’re different than we thought we were.

by bamkapow on Feb 22, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

This paragraph is the exact synopsis that Frank Capra read

before creating the screen play for It’s a Wonderful Life. What a coincidence!

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

by 92wastheyear on Feb 22, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Which paragraph? This one?
This paragraph is the exact synopsis that Frank Capra read

before creating the screen play for It’s a Wonderful Life. What a coincidence!

by CatMan2 on Feb 22, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This one
It’s funny that we make a few decisions as young people to determine our identity, and often spend the rest of our lives pondering what we did.

I wonder if our identities do enable our individual – if the choices about who we are are correct. Or the negative example, if we are analytical and systems oriented and we decide to be an actor, then the identities will constrain the individual, if I’m getting this right.

Seems a lot of us realize along the way that we’re different than we thought we were.

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

by 92wastheyear on Feb 22, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let me guess: his essay is called "Don't Let Homosexuality Be a Straitjacket"....
Appiah himself is a homosexual and discusses how society recognizes/reacts to/treats minorities and stereotypes. He also discusses how we find out our identities and our journey towards becoming who we eventually will be in life and when we do, how not to make that identity a straightjacket.

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 22, 2009 9:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

smoke monster!!

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Feb 22, 2009 9:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think this could devolve into an argument about nature v. nurture

of which i want no part! :)

or maybe it’s sunday and no one is gonna log on, in which case I ask, what is YOUR opinion of Apphia’s thesis?

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Feb 22, 2009 10:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wanted to vote for the Smoking Man

"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell

by Dragline on Feb 22, 2009 11:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Does Lost have crossovers with the X-files?

Now that would blow more people’s minds than the lost season on Denver clan when the Sopranos killed his pa in the shower.

Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul

by Norsktroll on Feb 22, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've only watched one episode of Lost

I heard they have a time machine now so they’re probably closer than we think.

"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell

by Dragline on Feb 22, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you can make at least a plausible argument that our identities are socially constructed.

It’s hard, if not impossible to imagine the emergence of a sense of self in the absence of social and interpersonal interaction. Who we are may be more a product of the questions we ask, and are asked, than of anything intrinsic to the meat suit we call our body.

by raoulduke on Feb 22, 2009 12:25 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

And the postmodern shows up, finally

I’m surprised you didn’t say something like, “political anatomy” or “the soul is the prison of the body.”

Thanks, you saved me some time.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Feb 22, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Snap

Have you guys seen this Taylor Swift video of her dishing Joe Jonas?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NyEWGAlFr8

"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell

by Dragline on Feb 22, 2009 2:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

OMG

drama drama drama.

"I saw him in the face"

by RoodiePhirnandizz on Feb 22, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard she's mad at him for breaking up with her over the phone and being afraid to be seen with her in public

"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell

by Dragline on Feb 22, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

It’s not working….but thanks

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

by 92wastheyear on Feb 22, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Travis is so cool in the clutch that the ice-water running through his veins has stopped global warming in its tracks."-- jscot

by bow4meow on Feb 23, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really hope KP has a better stump speech to convince free agents to come to Portland than his colleague Donnie Nelson of the Mavs

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2009/2/20/766581/because-it-s-dallas-via-xr

Short interview between Galloway and Nelson about the summer of 2010 with a great Star Trek illustration.

Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul

by Norsktroll on Feb 22, 2009 9:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm still laughing, and hope that "the other" is the deciding factor
  • “Because this is Dallas”
  • "Warm weather, tax-free climate, sold-out buildings…"
  • "The travel, the first-class, the this and that and the other"

Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul

by Norsktroll on Feb 22, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dallas....yuk....atleast basketball is over before summer

"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07

by LetsBlaze on Feb 22, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

isn't that their slogan?

or is it “Dallas:we used to have a cool TV show about us”

"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07

by LetsBlaze on Feb 22, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Beards are a universal logo of wisdom?

I knew I should have grown a beard! Damn it! I’m so stupid!

Seriously, where do you get that? I have no problem with beards, but I have known some pretty dumb people with them. That just seems like you’re trying to over compensate. Maybe for justification of the path towards individuality that you have chosen? I can’t grow a beard myself, it looks all patchy and scraggly. If I were to grow one, people would probably say "Wow, look at that beard. Why doesn’t he shave it off. Does he realize how stupid he looks?

I like whatever metric makes a Blazer look better.

by einman77 on Feb 23, 2009 1:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

What does it say about the moustache?

Universal sign of…???

"Male sperm swim harder than female sperm."

by BlazerD on Feb 23, 2009 1:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So how many people blogging on BE live in Hawaii?

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THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"

by Blazer1342 on Feb 23, 2009 1:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Tih, Tir, Dragline

and 2 others?

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THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"

by Blazer1342 on Feb 23, 2009 4:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Two people the other day on BE

were talking as though they might be from Hawaii. An acquaintance from work retired 2 or 3 years ago, he moved to Hawaii and others at work were talking about him last week. So I’m thinking, I’ve never been…but I don’t like flying. Maybe I’ll buy a canoe that doesn’t need patched up to bad and see how for I get.

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"

by Blazer1342 on Feb 23, 2009 5:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m gonna need some munchies.

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THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"

by Blazer1342 on Feb 23, 2009 5:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There is some guy with 420hilo in his name

He’s from the Big Island, I’m in Honolulu.

I da man!

by Dragline on Feb 23, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heavy title for a junk drawer

I have always been quite an “individual”…in terms of not blending in , Lemming-ing out, going with the flow – - never to be contrarian for the sake of it, but never buying into the conventional wisdom – - the sucker born every minute thing can be better avoided if you will think for yourself.

Never been one to buy into pre-determination or singular destiny – - more about identifying talents and potential, and maximizing each with “purpose” in mind . . . Still, I have had 5 careers – - 3 or more still active, and at 46 I am far from done – - just hitting stride…

There are decision points, mistakes, circumstances and such that shape the path – - retrospectively things could always have been different – - If I had been chosen as the Grateful Dead’s keyboard player in 1990 I’d – - -probably be dead now (like the rest of them) but would have flamed out brightly…But life doesn’t leave time for regrets if you plan to get the most out of it..

I teach people about self-actualization, “individuation”, – - If every snowflake is different how different must we all be? and I celebrate everyone I meet – - honestly had as much fun with my hotel clerk in Charlotte as I did talking to the guys on the team..

Sterotypes (of others) will act as constraints – - I usta call my long hair my @$$-ho;le filter cause it filtered out the narrow minded bigots before I had to find out later…but self-doubt and self sabotage at the sub-concious level will hinder many from living out their potential more that outward constraints…

enough for now . . . I better get back to one of my jobs .. .. :-)

"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07

by LetsBlaze on Feb 23, 2009 6:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dave, may we talk about race now?

Oh, never mind. I’m too afraid.

by MiledAnimal on Feb 23, 2009 10:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jeepers Creepers it is freezing today

It’s currently 64 degrees here. I’m going to need a winter coat for Portland next week.

I da man!

by Dragline on Feb 23, 2009 11:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

A post like this

Makes me think of The Big Lebowski. Sometimes you just have to embrace the immortal words of Walter.

F#$% it dude.

Life is hilarious.

by SolGoode on Feb 23, 2009 12:13 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

+1

"I saw him in the face"

by RoodiePhirnandizz on Feb 23, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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