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Rational Perspective on Trade Deadline

So I don't nomally like the columns on NBA.com, but I do like anything Blazer related, so sometimes it's unavoidable.

This article by David Aldridge does a good job of saying NAY to the NAYsayers and giving an alternate perspective as to why certain teams may have chosen to stand pat at the deadline.

The one point I would like to make on this subject, is that no one knows what was ACTUALLY offered/refused. They know a couple of the pieces involved, but without knowledge of specific stipulations and contracts, it's pointless to say that someone missed out on a great oppurtunity. What if it never existed as you imagine it?

It boils down to this. In the NBA, you either trust your GM or you don't. I think KP works REALLY hard to make this team better. I think he has a lot of REALLY smart people help him make decisions. And I also think he is a HUMAN BEING, and therefore capable of being less than perfect.

In the end, I believe exactly what KP said after the deadline. People made offers, those offers weren't good enough, they all wanted our best young prospects (Rudy, Bayless, Travis), and we would rather go to war with this team, than gamble on a veteren swooping in and saving the day.

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I'd rather have KP as a GM at this time than anyone else. Look at how much he's improved our roster!!

But, there is too much blindness by people on this site who constantly say “in KP I trust”. It’s not KP alone here. Like you allude above, KP has a whole staff around him, plus Nate. Who makes the “decision” appears more collective in this organization than one guy calling the shots. Thus, there easily could’ve been a trade yesterday that KP wanted to do, but Nate didn’t (I think this was the charlotte deal). No trades were made. We shouldn’t jump out and say “in KP I trust.” We should say that we like the direction of the coaches and management with this team. They appear to work well together and make solid decisions.

by hotstuffdb22 on Feb 21, 2009 5:18 AM PST reply actions  

Ahhh, look -- if you suck enough years in a row and you don't have Isiah or McHale as your GM, you're gonna have a pretty good team...

…………………………… And if your owner is a billionaire rather than a mere multi-millionaire, you have additional chances not available to others.

KP is a very good GM and a GREAT draft day wheeler dealer, but let’s not get carried away about him being a supergenius of the universe, because the playing field isn’t completely flat and he’s been running downhill.

The Zach deal was essentially a giveaway, the Darius situation can be most charitably described as a debacle in which the whole organization shared. It’s not like Taurean Green exactly tore up the league last year, ya know? And the Oden v. Durant choice, while it was rational and the same one that you, I, or 90% of the people that some cheerleaders of the establishment call “ignorant fans” would have made, is showing signs of having been very, very wrong…

Crafty? Yes.

Committed to a vision? Absolutely.

But not a Supergenius of the Universe.

“Trust but Verify,” to quote my main man, Ronald Reagan…

Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???

by timbo on Feb 22, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

My two cents:

Let’s look at the RLEC from a different perspective:

1) Almost everyone thought that Portland was going to make a move. Miles’ $ really cramped our cap room and increased the pressure to make a deal. In fact, many assumed that KP had to make a deal.

2) Opposing GMs have to be very wary of Pritchard. These guys have very healthy egos and many are well aware of the fact that KP has come out of many trades looking like the guy who got the best end of the bargain.

3) The Darius memo caused some bad feelings around the league. KP, unfairly or not, is perceived as being a bit cocky by many around the league and in the media.

4) Combine 1, 2, and 3 above, and you have a scenario that undoubtedly drove teams to try to drive an especially hard bargain with the Blazers.

Based on what we know about the offers on the table, I think KP made the right choice in choosing long term patience over short term gain. Not only is this true in terms of the long term excellence of the team, but by sticking to his guns, he will make it less likely that opposing GMs will try to play chicken with him in the future. KP proved that he will not flinch under pressure and make a move just to get something done.

Moneyball teaches that aging stars are frequently over-valued, both monetarily and on the floor. Keeping good, young, home-grown talent is almost always less expensive than trading for declining stars. Obviously, veteran leadership is very important, and something that the Blazers lack, but it needs to be the right vet, at the right price, with the right time horizon.

Finally, I would say that the decision to stand pat is analogous to the concept of the “future value of money.” $12 million for RLEC seems obviously greater than $7 million in cap space, however that $7 million can be combined with contracts to create a number nearly as large and gives the team greater flexibility. In a deeply distressed economy, their may be significant downward pressure on contracts. Deflation means that $7 mil + contracts this summer may actually have more value than $12 mil had at the trade deadline.

Like most of you, I am a bit disappointed, but I would have been really bummed if we had traded away Batum, Bayless, or Rudy for a vet in decline. I have even changed my mind a bit on Trout over the past month. He seems to be gradually improving his shot selection, and he seems to be doing a bit better on the boards. If he continues to improve, even marginally, in his understanding of how to use his enormous physical talents, we may ultimately be very glad we hung on to him.

by upper left corner on Feb 21, 2009 8:39 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

I wanted a trade just as much as anyone

and I even mentioned a few times that I’d be willing to give up on one of the little three (Rudy, Rex, Batoom) to get a guy like Tuff Juice or G. Wallace.

But I just watched the highlights from the Grizzlies game the other night, and I gotta say, the guys we have are great. Maybe they’re not the best players yet, but I love that the current Blazers. From top to bottom.

By not pulling a deal, KP really did say “i believe in you guys” and I do too. I’d rather wait a bit and have our team organically turn in to contenders with the current roster, than pull a Danny Ainge and win a trophy with guys I barely know.

by northwestj on Feb 21, 2009 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

An alternate perspective.

Seems more than possible to me that everybody but PA wanted to trade. Especially in light of the Martell news (which not coincidentally was only revealed after trade negotiations ended). By making any of the trades most of us were hoping for, PA would have owed much more money than by not making a trade. We have been spoiled by having PA as owner, as he has almost always spent what was necessary to improve the team. This time, in these financial crises times, after losing many millions of dollars, and realizing that we would probably make the playoffs anyway, and we wouldn’t challenge for a title even w/ a new SF, he decided to save money for himself. Can hardly blame him. We experienced, for this time, at least, what fans of most other teams have to live with constantly.
I have absolutely no info that confirms this theory, but it sure seems more probable than KP and Nate saying let’s squander this golden RLEC and play out the rest of the season and possibly the playoffs with inadequate small forwards.

by crakarjack on Feb 21, 2009 9:10 AM PST reply actions  

i see it... potentially

but that is so speculative, it would be hard to prove.

and it goes against what JQ said on the Quick Chat on thursday

by northwestj on Feb 21, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven't listened to the Chat yet,

but I do know that all of PA’s underlings take the bullet for him (as in the email scandal).

by crakarjack on Feb 21, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually think its just the opposite

given KP’s history, I bet PA gave him the green light to do anything he felt necessary to improve the team (including a huge luxury tax doubling move). KP probably felt that not only was it the smart play not to give up too early on his guys (you can wait a year and get the same prizes), but it was the financially responsible thing to do as well. When KP uses PA’s money in the future he’ll have a clear conscience about it.

by as11osu on Feb 21, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

KP's no punk

Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Feb 21, 2009 10:03 AM PST reply actions  

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