Thursday Practice Report: Trade Deadline Edition
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 1:00 PM PST
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Have a question? I will take your questions in the comments until 230 PM.
Check twitter out for a blow-by-blow account of the last 90 minutes.
KP announces to the team that no trades have been made.
The team huddles for their traditional "together!" cheer. Tom Penn gropes poor Sergio.
Trades stink!
Big team news of the day: Greg is out for tomorrow night's game. Also out for Sunday. His knee is still swollen according to Coach McMillan but Nate said surgery has not yet been discussed.
Practice opened earlieir than usual, about 11:30AM or so and was already underway by the time I got there. The team was going through 5 on 5 work, particularly running pick and rolls and defending against them, from what I could gather. Again, my head was all over the place because of the trade deadline so my apologies. I will be back at it tomorrow, I promise.
My big takeaway from today is this: not moving RLEC is a clear sign that the team believes the economic situation for rival organizations will only continue to get worse, with the implication it could possibly get much worse.
I am absolutely disappointed and surprised that we did not make an acquisition given how wide open this season seems to be; KP fully acknowledged that he will take some heat for not making a move. He also very carefully pointed out that as the economy worsens, the Blazers position only becomes stronger and they will turn their attention to the offseason.
KP's view is pretty clear: why take on any new long-term, big dollar contracts if you are getting signs from other teams that those big dollars could go much, much further during this summer's free agency or, perhaps, into next season as well.
Some questions to ponder...
- Do we have any idea what big name free agents are going to command this off-season?
- How much, really, is Shawn Marion or Mike Bibby going to command this summer? If they go for cheaper than they might have in years past, that could have a trickle-down effect.
- Given that, how cheaply do you think the Blazers can re-sign Channing Frye? We've heard talk in the past that there will be interest in him but is some other team really going to step up and throw enough dollars at him so he turns his back on Portland, as many of us might have assumed?
I think we are looking at this off-season as an era where teams see increased leverage in negotiating with players and, more importantly, where rich teams with flexible salary cap situations get even greater leverage when competing against poorer or less flexible teams for players.
To repeat: the takeaway implication from KP today was that if you think this is a buyer's market now, just wait until this summer.
With that said, the Blazers are tantalizingly close to making a big push this season. There's some serious heartbreak knowing that the team is keeping RLEC in the short term. The only comment from KP that struck me negatively came when he said that he wanted to avoid making "a huge mistake" and that the risk of making a move and jeopardizing this team's playoff chances was a factor in his decision-making process. First: I would hope that he had enough good offers (he said he had a lot of offers) that the risk he's talking about would have been minimal. Second: the last thing that I want to see in this world is a gun-shy KP.
In my season preview this year, I wrote that the summer of 2008 could be the time that people look back on as the time this team took off with real potential. I'm starting to think that I might have jumped the gun by one summer.
Other Notes:
- Brandon, in his savvy veteran role, joked to reporters, "Why is everyone here today? What's the occasion?"
- It was a large media contingent: all the radio guys, Bill Schonely, etc. KP actually told the media swarm that there were no trades prior to officially calling the team together and telling them.
- Sergio looked very loose, smiling again like last night. He probably feels more relief than anyone (except maybe Channing or Travis). I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Sergio's game enjoy a post-deadline bounce.
- Martell is still in his boot.
- The team is really, really, really satisfied with itself for creating that trade exception. Like "beaming" satisfied.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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The team will be happy
One of the best parts of the squad is the chemistry. The Oregonian said most of the guys didn’t want to see a deal (but understood the business of it), so maybe we’ll see a more relaxed crew out there.
An admission: After the OKC game, I said some things. Stupid things. Things about Nate not knowing how to coach GO. It was only then I realized that I was in danger of becoming that which I most loathe - an uninformed, knee jerk fan who reacts to wins with wild delusions of championships and losses with trade and firing fodder. I will not be that fan. From this point on I will support the Blazers, the coaches and front office wholeheartedly, offering praise and criticism appropriate to the matter at hand. I will never again be "that guy".
Blazeaddict
2/9/2009
by blazeraddict on Feb 19, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Best chemistry of any team in the lottery, two years running!
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Timbo, Timbo
We’re making the playoffs this year. Don’t jump buddy, I would have liked to see RLEC land us a big fish, but I just don’t think the right deal was there
An admission: After the OKC game, I said some things. Stupid things. Things about Nate not knowing how to coach GO. It was only then I realized that I was in danger of becoming that which I most loathe - an uninformed, knee jerk fan who reacts to wins with wild delusions of championships and losses with trade and firing fodder. I will not be that fan. From this point on I will support the Blazers, the coaches and front office wholeheartedly, offering praise and criticism appropriate to the matter at hand. I will never again be "that guy".
Blazeaddict
2/9/2009
by blazeraddict on Feb 19, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This teams needed -- and still needs -- NOW -- (1) a small forward that can score the ball; (2) a backup 4 that can ruck in the paint.
Instead, we have…………………… some more money for Paul Allen — and Channing Frye!
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot Ruffin.
MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)
by The Cactus Leaguer on Feb 19, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE "score the ball"
Even if Steve Jones uses it. You shoot the ball or you score points. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 19, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Even if he used it"?
It’s because he uses it that the term irritates me.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
by TwoDeep on Feb 19, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
You know, I figured Steve Jones in person would be all grumpy. But I met him, and he was the nicest guy imaginable—even at 1 am, with a hoarse voice after getting off a flight. Amazingly, he even was more than happy to talk hoops. I asked him about his ABA days, and got some great stories.
Sure, I guess Steve phoned it in at times, but those were some awful Blazer teams he had to cover. I wouldn’t have wanted to watch and comment on all those games myself—especially if, like Jones, I’d played the game at a high level and fully understood how little those “Jailblazer” guys cared.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 20, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Scoring the ball
is something that you do with the groupies after the game.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does your roommate piss in your corn flakes every morning?
It might be better off for you if you just became a Laker or Celtic fan.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 19, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was a Laker fan before I ever started watching the Blazers...
I just calls ’em like I see ’em.
ChanningFryeFTW
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
A rec for admitting here to being a Lakers fan.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 19, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give you some more...
My family moved to Oregon late in 1977 and I COULD NOT STAND the kids in my school that were Blazer fans.
And when the Lakers came from behind in the 4th Q to beat ’em, it was such a BFD to me that I was in Portland going to a Lou Reed show…
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
...... whatever year that was.
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who the heck is Lou Reed?
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Google.
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Never seen or heard of him...before my time I guess.
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a very old man. "The godfather of punk."
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I did read he was admitted in the HOF for rock and rollers
"Is RLEC a real person" -My beloved wife
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I usually don't go to big shows but my buddy had a ticket.
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Laurie Anderson's husband
Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot
by 22baylor on Feb 19, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you should listen to velvet underground
all the good people do.
by Falcao on Feb 19, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
for not having heard of Lou Reed :-
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
im
very sad about nothing happening, not just us nothing of any significance(besides maybe the alston deal) happened today.
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on Feb 19, 2009 1:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jason Quick Chat at 2pm everyone.....
The cake is a lie. Do not bake it.
by blzrfan on Feb 19, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
where?
"Every time Troutlaw touches the ball, I pop an anti-anxiety pill."
by DaNoose on Feb 19, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Same place as always Oregonlive
The cake is a lie. Do not bake it.
by blzrfan on Feb 19, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks, I'm sort of a noob.
"Every time Troutlaw touches the ball, I pop an anti-anxiety pill."
by DaNoose on Feb 19, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ya and i gotta go to class
exactly at 2. this will go down as a terrible day(unless the ducks somehow pull off a win, but odds are no they are terrible, then it would be a pretty even day).
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on Feb 19, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
THE DUCKS ARE STILL PLAYING?
They should save face and just throw in the towell.
http://oregonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=182&p=9&c=8&yr=2009&cfg=bb
by Escrote on Feb 19, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
meant to be a reply
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on Feb 19, 2009 1:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My only complaint
In truth, I’m not upset that there wasn’t a trade. I like all of the players.The only negative I see is that Bayless is now relegated back to third string and wont be getting many minutes. I think they just have too much talent for the minutes in a game… but there are certainly worse problems to have.
by giantAppleCore on Feb 19, 2009 1:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
That really weirds me out.
by Nick Van Excellent on Feb 19, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All Bayless has to do is play better than Sergio to get more playing time
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tom, don't confuse them with such sophisticated analysis.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 19, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not necessarily true
McMillan often chooses a more established player over the rookie, with the exception of Oden.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Oden is the SPECIAL PET.
Because, if you play him enough, he becomes the next Bill Russell.
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not Bill Russell
but he does affect the game in our favor nearly every time he’s on the floor.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Compared to Channing Frye -- I agree 100%.
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's had a better rookie year than Durant
Durant was hurting his team last year. His leap this year shows how much it’s possible to improve in a summer.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a reasonable roll of the dice, but it hurts BAD to be the team wrong on both Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant...
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
but the point remains that Durant was an inefficient gunner who played no defense in his first year.
Oden can still be great.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KD = larger B-Roy
"Is RLEC a real person" -My beloved wife
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
False.
KD = smarter Trout
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I want to put points on your face."
-Rudy to Pau Gasol
TRADE TRAVIS OUTLAW FOR A CHAIR
by rockingharder on Feb 19, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He just blew your mind.
That really happened.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Feb 19, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I need to take a nap.
I’m getting a little dizzy.
by Garces on Feb 19, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Gunner extrordinaire.
Wake me up when he plays defense.
by antediluvian on Feb 19, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He does do it....
he ain’t no Bowen, but KD does try and guard people.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
troll
"Brian (Outlaw is Rejector) is now on the fan saying he put this on to see what would happen " - 123_G.O._RipCity
by Outlaw is Rejector on Feb 19, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have the same thoughts... I think there is opportunity for Bayless in the final stretch here
even to gain momentum for the offseason and next year.
My other complaint is the unwillingness to address the major defensive gap. I think we could’ve gone for somebody who narrows that gap.
by hotstuffdb22 on Feb 19, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, then how about naming names?
What players have changed teams so far that represent a significant upgrade defensively? How about any of the names linked to Portland in the trade rumors? With the exception of Gerald Wallace or Shawn Marion, I haven’t heard a single name that would have met that criteria.
Why is it that failure to make a trade is seen as an unwillingness to address issues? Are you privy to information that KP turned down Prince for Raef & Outlaw?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 19, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't take this as antagonistic,
but I’m curious as to why you don’t think that Richard Jefferson would be an upgrade over Outlaw on the defensive end?
I know they’re very very similar on offense, and really the difference in their numbers can be attributed to the difference in the amount of minutes played, but isn’t Jefferson a better defender?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Feb 19, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Travis was on his heels all night last night it seemed..
While I am sure there was a ton on his mind, I am compelled to agree with you that R-Jeff is a better defender AND scorer.
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jefferson gets to the line
much more than Trout, because he looks to drive with the ball, rather than shooting 80+ % jumpers. In that way, I think he’d have helped our O more than Trout.
by Hawthorne Wingo on Feb 19, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wrote up a responce and it appears to have disappeared on me.
Now I have to get back to work.
Reader’s Digest version – Jefferson could very well be an upgrade, but that’s only part of the equation. That by itself does not mean team defense overall will improve by much. Whatever the case, I know I’m not qualified to make that determination. However I believe KP is. At least far more so than the folks who are saying he lacks guts to make a big trade or think he’s over rated and has been lucky to date.
(And I saw no antagonism. Yours was a serious question.)
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 19, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because you agree with the no trade stance
I love KP and what he’s done. I don’t think there’s a Trail Blazer fan here that doesn’t. Just because some of us think we should have cashed in that chip now, rather than later, doesn’t me that KP is a failure. It just means he has a different viewpoint. Obviously he has a plan, I just wish his plan would have included a trade today.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Feb 19, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That is my biggest concern as well.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Feb 19, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought when blake came back bayless would be 2nd string
and sergio demoted to 3rd. but i see the logic in that sergio would take the benching much harder than jerryd, who when he got his chance showed enough to feel pretty but also know he has some things to work on. he knows his time will come. but if you sat sergio he might be worthless or a distraction… worthless if needed again (if blake is hurt once more). nate’s method is old school but it has a logic which i think the team understands.
in the summer you can redesign the roster (and move sergio) — and bayless will likely be much improved by next fall.
ignacio
by ignacio on Feb 19, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's so ignorant
You honestly think Nate cares if Sergio whines about being 3rd string? Sergio is a better PG that Bayless right now, that’s why he is the backup.
This might be different next year. Sergio might be gone or Bayless might surpass him. That isn’t the case right now.
by Zaig on Feb 19, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure that's an ignorant statement.
Bayless can get asists when that’s his role, and we all know he can defend better than Sergio.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Feb 19, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See that;s the difference that whenever
Sergio is on the court you have 4 players performing at a high level (him not included his shot is just not up to par)
When Bayless is on the court you have 2 maybe 3 players performing at a high level (him, and whoever else can do it by themselves).
From the back of Travis Outlaw's Franz card: Travis leads the team in monstrous thunder dunks, wins awards for post game interviews, and often gets extra points for degree of difficulty.
by TheOdenator on Feb 19, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Generalities don't usually work in the real world.
and “whenever” is definately in that category.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Feb 19, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"whenever"
Whenever it is crunch time you will always want Roy on the court ahead of Shavlick Randolph.
And if the job of the point guard is to get the rest of the team involved you will always want Sergio on the court instead of Bayless.
Whenever the job of the point guard is to drive to the rim you will always want Bayless in ahead of Sergio.
Whenever people resort to using grammatical arguments, they always are trying to turn the discussion towards something they know better (grammar) and away from the topic at hand (basketball).
From the back of Travis Outlaw's Franz card: Travis leads the team in monstrous thunder dunks, wins awards for post game interviews, and often gets extra points for degree of difficulty.
by TheOdenator on Feb 19, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it was ignorant.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
by TwoDeep on Feb 19, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree with the "sergio would be useless 3rd string" argument
cause it would be a demotion and stunt his progress and crush his spirit a bit…don’t really think he brings more than bayless right now…they seem more suited to different matchups/situations…but Bayless can be sat down without it crushing him ….and Sergio has been putting the ball up a bit better…
and I think that even at third string Bayless can grab 10 min of high octane burn now and then where Sergio can’t be that high octane short burn turbo boost offense . . . . like Rex is a loaded cannon on the bench there…
if we could just get some D or even 4 quarters of OFFENSIVE intensity we would be winning games by large margins and everyone could play
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at all those jerks
All happy to be here. Makes me sick.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 19, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
+1
Perfect practice makes perfect.
by Ojala John on Feb 19, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They´re farting too.
Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16
by amlmart1 on Feb 19, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is anybody not worried about Oden being out this long? gosh i know we gotta stick by him but isnt it getting kinda ridiculous???
by EriBlazer on Feb 19, 2009 1:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Better safe than sorry I guess.
If he comes back and gets hurt one more time this season though, I will start to have icky feelings.
"Every time Troutlaw touches the ball, I pop an anti-anxiety pill."
by DaNoose on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, sure I'm worried
What do you mean its getting ridiculous? What exactly should we/he/the team/coach/anyone do about it?
Support him, hope for the best, he should be fine, thank god hes not bynum.
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy,
Roy, Roy, Roy!
by joelor on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They should get him a "hovaround"
He can run over feet in the paint while his knee is healing.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Feb 19, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not worried at all...
i think we were lucky to get him for the long stretch that we had him. … he’ll be back in a month or so…
also, i like pryzbilla back in the starting line up
by hotstuffdb22 on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He did well last night
but dang when he was off the floor we sure missed having another rebounder in there. I can’t wait until we are completely healthy.
"Every time Troutlaw touches the ball, I pop an anti-anxiety pill."
by DaNoose on Feb 19, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking that too. We go from being one of the best rebounding teams in the league when Oden plays to getting out-rebounded by Memphis when he doesn’t.
by 50backflips on Feb 19, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thats when Shav needs to play instead of Travis
Cause Shav’s (Boards + D+Post Offense) > Trav at that point (with LMA or Chan at the 5)
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am
but it means more Frye-lock! He will get his shot back and become a Portland Folk-hero.
One time I saw him shoot the lights out with Paul Bunyan playing D on him.
He then proceeded to slay John Henry by tiring him out.
by pklym on Feb 19, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't he riding Bunyan's blue ox "Babe" during that game?
Poor Bunyan: even his own ox loves the Buffet Of Goodness.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 19, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Has any professional basketball player ever had microfracture surgery on both knees?
by BR7formvp on Feb 19, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kenyon Martin
he was the first
Blazer's fan since '84, Spurs fan when they are not playing Portland.
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
by HurraKane212 on Feb 19, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and he was drafted #1
it’s a bad oden, i mean omen.
by appel82 on Feb 19, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Historically #3 draft picks had the highest chance to turn into stars
All hail to Al Horford and O.J. Mayo
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the great photos Ben
I was really sweating Raef getting traded and the team losing his leadership.
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 1:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
yah isn't there a rule against trading away the team captain?
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
besides word is raef's coming back from his injury before oden.
yeah. I went there.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not only would i book it
but yes, yes i would book it.
I would book it FTW because oden is an EPIC FAIL.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Please change your signature line to "Oden is an EPIC FAIL"
I want to remember who it was who said that after GO leads the Blazers to an NBA championship.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 19, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
please change your signature to a fundraiser to help teach Joel proper English
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Oden knee injury concerns me
Unlike some, I don’t blame him or even his “fragile” anatomy. He banged knees hard with an extremely physical guy. It happened to be GO’s knee cap that got chipped. Bad luck, but he’ll be back.
Having said that, I’m concerned that the Blazers may lose winable games because of GO’s absence. Those who thought his presence wasn’t that important to the team should have learned otherwise last night. Joel is great, but his effectiveness is greatly enhanced by GO’s presence. Those two are a two-headed monster in the post. They can play with abandon because they have another guy behind them to play minutes and spend fouls. When one is out, the team is in trouble.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 19, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yup, that is the real bad news of the day.
".. is gumby an alien?"
by staylost on Feb 19, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we should trade oden + aldridge for dwight
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This implies that Orlando's GM drools on himself when eating...
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he did just trade for Rafer Alston right? :)
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good observation.
One that sometimes applies to some of the fans here.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 19, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Zilla only good for low 30s
Meaning we have to play Frye… that’s bad!
by Zaig on Feb 19, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just get those bone chips sucked outa there
so they don’t cause anymore irritation.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
by TwoDeep on Feb 19, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oden's knee
Reminds me of Greek Easter.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Feb 19, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How many games did Roy and Aldridge miss in their rookie seasons?
His body has to get used to playing lots of games.
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For sure
I’m in Oden’s camp.
Have you ever been to a Greek Easter? The way he hurt it and what happened reminds me of Greek Easter.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Feb 19, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But I am getting tired of these injuries.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Feb 19, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Never been to one
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That means CHANNING FRYE is going to play significant minutes... Gee, this team is STACKED for the playoff run!!!
Greg is out for tomorrow night’s game. Also out for Sunday. His knee is still swollen according to Coach McMillan but Nate said surgery has not been discussed.
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Nate can insert next year's 3rd 2nd Round draftpick in the 4 and move LMA to the 5 for a few minutes tomorrow night...
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
............................ This is BLACK THURSDAY for the 2008-09 season...
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
actually that's real accurate. just like black friday there were no significant deals today
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But the market still moved :)
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah. Blazers down 16-3/8 in heavy trading....... And my frickin' broker won't pick up the phone to SELL SELL SELL!!!!!!
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Ruffin behind the Buffet of Goodness
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 19, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Frye eats up the ruffin man's minutes!
can’t wait to see that headline
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben on Twitter
Travis just hucked a long shot that almost hit tom penn
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Did he pull out his Blackberry to make some notes while looking in Travis' general direction?
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he was on his phone the whole time. although he did give me a fist pound which required the phone to be in his pocket.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
POST IS UPDATED. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL BE HERE UNTIL 230.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How'd the 5 on 5 pick and roll D look?
And if it looked good, was that only because our pick and roll O sucks?
by Zaig on Feb 19, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they were going hard. lots of stopping the drill to instruct individuals. mostly monty was doing the coaching. they don’t show us much so it’s hard to take anything from it. other than spirited practice.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do KP and Tom Pen usually wear jeans to practice?
Or with the team not making any deals is it like casual Friday at the Blazer offices?
by tingeyga on Feb 19, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
during the day it varies. a lot of times its jeans. rarely sweatsuits. at games always full suits of course.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No questions
just thanks for your perspective on KP that you added in this update. – Elgin
Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot
by 22baylor on Feb 19, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More Shav, what's not to like?
KP knows best. Thank goodness, we can put this unnecessary worry and unpleasantness behind us. Thanks guys!
by Luanne on Feb 19, 2009 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes - Ben Who suits up - Shav or Ruffin??
by hotstuffdb22 on Feb 19, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
curious if that is an opinion or was communicated to you
or is Ruffin injured too?
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Talk about patient...
at least he is still sporting the 100% FG%
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What was up with running after made buckets and going under screens
Did Nate say anything about that? We did it in the first quarter.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 19, 2009 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
great question.
nate didnt address that, at least that i heard. i didnt catch much of his talk today, it was too hectic.
i think they were picking on conley. also memphis was on a back to back.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So it's not gonna last?
Crap. I loved seeing them run after made buckets. Brandon looked comfortable going faster paced.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 19, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nate has said this… he likes blake’s ability to run sets and direct traffic. its much easier to run if blake is playing, although that sounds counter intuitive at first. if its a situation where we will be pushing tempo, nate wants blake to do it rather than anyone else because he will protect the ball.
something to watch out for.
if we do it again tomorrow i will ask nate
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he used to push the ball when starting at denver
ignacio
by ignacio on Feb 19, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i meant counterintuitive because of sergio’s rep compared to blakes.
sorry that was unclear
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we only had one turnover and at least 10 or more assists in the first quarter.
And the oops, the beautiful oops.
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 19, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
totally stoked that blake is back. the only person more excited than us is brandon.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Was Vince Carter mentioned by ANYONE that is currently employed by the Blazers?
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
they didnt really go into names. just said a lot of offers. i definitely didnt hear anyone say: OH MAN WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN VC
if that’s what you’re asking
i dont think the VC stuff was ever that serious despite the reports.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Last I heard that the Nets wanted to "Give him away."
Thank you though for answering!
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a lot of bluster around that situation. not surprised that he’s still a net with his contract and age
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be hilarious, if Roy would have been all grumpy looking forward to some guy and then nothing...
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
VC would have been a bit of a problem - - -comes with a VERY large ego and such...
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben
what’s going to happen with Sergio and Bayless? I always assumed we would clear that up at the trade deadline.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i did too. sergio remains in the backup role. jerryd continues to put in crazy work. at this point its sergio position to lose more than jerryd’s to gain, i think. if sergio has a rough stretch it’s his. otherwise i think the team is very happy with the results of the current rotation.
after this season, who knows. our starting 1 could be FA acquisition.
i think bayless will be here long long term. everyone likes him.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine Jerryd is too happy
about having to sit for 29 games.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you talkin about Andre Miller?
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no one in particular. there will be some names available though and cheaper i think.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
who do you think are the top targets this off season? I know we can sign a good contract in this economy, but WHO can we sign to those contracts?
are you guys gonna do a post soon on who will be a FA and RFA and who we could potentially target? I think that would make a great post.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
dave is generally stronger in this area than i am. we will look at it when the time gets closer. i will defer that one to him.
alot depends on martell. regardless, 1s and 3s continue to be the positions most likely to see a move. so thats where the list starts.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here are the names, again
2009 NBA free agents
Allen Iverson
Rasheed Wallace
Baron Davis
Elton Brand
Lamar Odom
Kobe Bryant
Jason Kidd
Stephon Marbury
Jamal Crawford
Eddy Curry
Hedo Turkoglu
Andre Miller
Steve Nash
Grant Hill
Steve Francis
Ron Artest
Mike Bibby
Carlos Boozer
Mehmet Okur
The Rookie Contracts:
Marvin Williams (restricted)
Raymond Felton (restricted)
Jason Maxiell (restricted)
Luther Head (restricted)
Danny Granger (restricted)
Andrew Bynum (restricted)
Hakim Warrick (restricted)
Andrew Bogut (restricted)
Charlie Villanueva (restricted)
Rashard McCants (restricted)
Nate Robinson (restricted)
David Lee (restricted)
Channing Frye (restricted)
Jarrett Jack (restricted)
If some of these guys have already signed, I’m sure someone will correct me. Best case scenario is maybe the Knicks feel they can’t resign David Lee. Marvin Williams and Maxiell are also interesting targets
by two4larue on Feb 19, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oops
Best case would be signing Granger to an offer sheet that Indy can’t match
(Frankly, I liked our options better with RLEC up until noon, today)
by two4larue on Feb 19, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Granger signed an extension in October
as did Bogut.
Neither of them will hit the FA market for another 5 years
by tingeyga on Feb 19, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's get Jarret Jack!
Nash, Miller, Bibby are all good names.
Maxiell would be a fantastic backup if we could pull him away. Not likely though.
David Lee and Nate Rob would be nice, but unlikely to attract them.
by rmcdougall on Feb 19, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Ben's comment was
Sergio is a “dead man walking”
when he was a guest on someone’s blog back in August?
Evidently, Rodriguez’ Blazer career has more “lives” than a cat, or Jason on Friday the 13th?
by two4larue on Feb 19, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good job Ben.
Now all those Bayless fans will be rooting against Sergio.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
by TwoDeep on Feb 19, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How would that be different from the last six months?
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not very different at all.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
by TwoDeep on Feb 19, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing they didn’t cash in that expiring contract. I’m sure the Lakers are kicking themselves for that Pau Gasol trade. KP not wanting to make a deal for fear of the worse is like Brandon not taking a game-winning shot for fear of missing it.
by elbeejay503 on Feb 19, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
yeah i still dont get it..
unless we’re working a sign and trade-RLEC was basically a deadline exception…only for 4x what we got for diogu.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One word: deflation
I haven’t seen anyone come out and just say it out loud, but lets face facts here… If teams are shedding a bunch of salary right now for purely economic reasons, what does a “top dollar FA” really mean? What, exactly, is top dollar?
Then let’s look at the RFA situation. The point has been made before that RFAs are hard to get ahold of because the team that has the player can match the offer anytime. Well… isn’t this EXACTLY the kind of market where you have good shot of outbidding the incumbent team?
Keep in mind as well, when you make a trade, you are beholden to the terms of the new player’s contract. When you sign an FA or RFA, you are not only getting to haggle a new price, you’re ALSO getting to haggle a new contract length, and numerous other details as well.
I would point people to All-Star HOF investor Warren Buffet, who used the following baseball metaphor (I’m paraphrasing, not quoting):
“Imagine you are a baseball pitcher, who will only ever get to throw twenty pitches in his entire lifetime. In that situation, WHEN you throw the ball is even more important than HOW you throw it.”
That my friends is the heart and soul of value investing, and in GM-land, KP is a hardcore value investor.
by conspirator5 on Feb 19, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who was traded recently that was worth Raef's contract?
If you have money to blow, do you but stuff just because it is on sale?
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a GOOD FOR ONE FREE STAR PLAYER coupon that just expired because KP likes chemistry and Paul Allen likes money...
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh stuff it timbo
do you realize how hypocritical you are being? All this pritch hate going on now reeks of desperation, which was exactly what the blazers were trying to avoid. We put a value on RLEC which teams chose not to meet, but in no way were we in a closing sale where we had no choice but to move RLEC. It is hypocritical to say we HAVE to move RLEC because teams are desperate right now to get expiring contracts, because by saying that we ourselves become desperate. Man up and support your team.
by premthegrem on Feb 19, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
See me Saturday or after the game after that one..... Things will become clearer for you...
It is hypocritical to say we HAVE to move RLEC because teams are desperate right now to get expiring contracts, because by saying that we ourselves become desperate.
RLEC had trade value this morning and is a $5M check for Paul Allen tonight. They chose. Don’t pretend it was a basketball decision, it was a financial decision, same as with all the teams out of the money and shedding salary…
KP loves his vaunted “chemistry.” KP loves his team. KP thinks his team is good enough to make the playoffs the way it sits.
We’ll see about that.
Why is Channing Frye still here? Anybody??? Anybody???
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's "butt"
you’re such a buyhole
by rmcdougall on Feb 19, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If FA are commanding very little this offseason
What do you think the odds of Blake being cut, and then resigned at a lower rate?
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Feb 19, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lower than 4 million? Forget it, that's not where the chances to save are
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
blakes contract is off the books this year i think..
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is a team option for 4 million for next season
So the Blazers could not pick it up and let him walk (giving them more caproom) or pick it up cause 4 million isn’t that much (at least not until recently).
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Feb 19, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i would not be surprised if blake was not a blazer next season. although i love what he brings.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think a lot of people love what he brings...Very popular.
The Blakes and the Barrets are pretty good friends from what I’ve read.
by PtownJake on Feb 19, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think the Blazers would trade Blake?
by MiledAnimal on Feb 19, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
longterm hes probably not the championship point guard.
and there should be other possibilities at the 1 this off season and next summer.
im not saying it happens, i just wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not here.
he is steady and offers great value. that goes a long way here.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That NY Times article on Shane Battier
that showed what a huge asset he is for his team? I wonder if Blake is that guy for us.
by MiledAnimal on Feb 19, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it'd be nice to have
several scrappy role players who roll like that
by two4larue on Feb 19, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
pryzbilla is that guy for us
i read that article. pryzbilla is one of the few player’s whose plus minus stat usually means something. Blake also has a lot of characteristics like that as well, calling out screens and the like.
by appel82 on Feb 19, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ben
did you have a chance to cheap shot Canzano at practice… maybe accidently hit him right smack dab on his bald dome with an elbow or something?
I fully approve if that were to happen.
Give the man his "M"!!!
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Feb 19, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ben, has anyone talked about Greg's knee at all? Is he even in the building?
by dario argento on Feb 19, 2009 2:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I told Barkley not to use him in NBA 2K.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
greg was dressed for practice but sat on the bench during the media portion. he was not practicing at all as far as i know.he’s out the next two games as i wrote above. im concerned because there is a lack of specifics. nate seemed concerned for greg’s health but not overly concerned.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow. lame, lame, lame. This doesn't sound very minor anymore does it?
by dario argento on Feb 19, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
anytime they say they're not talking about surgery, you better believe that its serious or at least potentially serious.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That is EXACTLY what I thought...
Talking about surgery is nothing minor…
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They declared Mr. Mike Dunleavy Jr wasn't considering surgery and look where he ended up
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
could be a scope and then miss maybe a month
brandon has had this several times.
ignacio
by ignacio on Feb 19, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is the MRI found that chip and Greg can't play until the swelling goes down in his knee
No one said Oden was in pain, he got hit on the knee, it swelled up, and he can’t play until the swelling goes down. He’ll play next week.
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i heard that he met tanya harding at some party after the GS game
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Vancouver
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually it is probably better for Ike if he actually gets to play.
Wish him the best.
by Berkeley on Feb 19, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know much about trades and such so I apologize if this is a foolish question...:(
Can you trade a player and their contract for money straight up? I am not really sure so I hope you can clear this up.
Apologize for the stupid question. :)
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
no
there is a maximum of three million dollars cash that a team can send in a deal. If you have cap space, you can absorb salary without giving any, up to the amount of cap space you have.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So,
As it currently stands, how far under the cap will we be in the summer, I know the cap is coming down , but roughly. Assuming we can’t fight the 9 mill for Miles.
by monkeybones on Feb 19, 2009 2:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
estimates place us at 7-8 million under the cap.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not as good as
13 mill for RLEC, but I suppose if you add that to the good young pieces we have to trade, and the trade exception, given the right market conditions… No, I still don’t get why we didn’t make a deal.
by monkeybones on Feb 19, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Ben
Did anyone ask KP what he will do with Raef LaFrentz? I think they should cut him, as long as it doesn’t mess up the insurance money, and sign Steve Hill.
Is Steve Hill better than Ruffin?
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 2:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hope Hill gets hit by a bus so we stop talking about acquiring him.
Ruffin is only on this team for jokes. Kinda like Shav
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
by nima on Feb 19, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shav is ridiculously underrated
I have to constantly remind people that when he was with Philly…HE STARTED and put up some decent numbers before he went down.
Hill is NOT the answer though. Far from it.
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True about Shav, but....
that was before he completely shredded his ankle He hasn’t been quite the same since.
by antediluvian on Feb 19, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he's better than before :-)
you’ll see…
here or somewhere else
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
actually 1st preseason game with Philly 2007-8 he was 23 and 10
but his leg was sore after….and kept being a problem till about mid season last year ….by then he was out of the rotation to Jason Smith Thad Young Reggie Evans….and the acquisition of Brand and drafting of Speights closed the door.
He played his ass off here in the preseason -(I KNOW IT WAS ONLY PRESEASON AND NO_ONE ELSE WAS TRYING BUT HIM…) but it was a per 36 double double with 59% fg%
sooo…If Nate would put him on the floor, he would produce….Now would be a good time with GO out, cause the 4 needs to play D hit the boards and play the post (looking at trav here…)
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure it is humanly possible for him to be worse than Frye...
Give him a shot Nate!
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Feb 19, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see some court time for Randolph.
I suspect he could be our David Lee, only with a better shot from distance.
Here’s where I agree with timbo – I would like to see a 2nd PF who is a gritty rebounder and who can score inside. I love Channing Frye, but I think his game is too similar to Aldridge’s. That doesn’t allow Nate to create or exploit matchup differences. I would be fine if Channing stayed the backup PF. He has a world of talent. But I would also like to get a look at Shav in that spot. See what he might bring.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 20, 2009 8:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he says he would torch and shutdown Lee each time they played in the Eastern Conf
and I’ve never known him to brag…now would be a great time to find out…if he can perform, the renounce/resign option becomes possible with Channing and would free up cap space if I understand all that right…and Shav will likely be pushed into another 1 yr minimum contract which would only cost the team 825K next year with the league picking up the slack….
I often wonder if he was being held out just so no one would realize his value till it’s too late…so far as a Blazer he hasn’t failed to produce when given the opportunity…don’t know what has to happen for Nate to pull the trigger but tonight is a great opportunity considering how well Shav did against these boys this fall
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 20, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That last thought has occured to me as well.
It doesn’t jive with playing your best guys, so I never gave it much credence. But I did wonder.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 20, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Shav is all that
Why can’t he beat out Channing for backup PF minutes?
by two4larue on Feb 19, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
because Trav took alot of them...
and Channing(EC) is still a decision point ….
and I think he would out perform him if he was put on the court…
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben
What’s up with Martell?
Sightings? Boot off or on?
When do we expect him to practice again?
Perfect practice makes perfect.
by Ojala John on Feb 19, 2009 2:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just saw the note at the end.
Nevermind.
Perfect practice makes perfect.
by Ojala John on Feb 19, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ty
Perfect practice makes perfect.
by Ojala John on Feb 19, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Webster= slowest healer ever
Drink some milk or something!
by shocker315 on Feb 19, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think the problem is the screw they put in.
Rigid object in a bone that’s supposed to be flexible will always cause discomfort.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Feb 19, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bones are not supposed to be flexible
Joints are, not bones. If your bones are flexible, you’ve got some serious issues. Additionally, using screws to reinforce and strengthen stress-bearing bones is a tried and true medical practice used for decades, and they’re continually refining the process and making it better. Unless you’re an orthopedist or podiatrist, or at the very least have access to Webster’s x-rays/MRIs, I don’t think anyone has the ability to credibly criticize the medical decisions made about Webster’s foot.
< /war >
by Diesel10 on Feb 19, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Medical trivia about bone screws:
They don’t use Titanium for the screws because it makes you as sexy as a Russian submarine. Titanium actually bonds to bone tissue, so it’s like you slathered it with loc-tite before you put it in.
by conspirator5 on Feb 19, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
foot bones
bet the last drop of blood in the body, they’re always slower to heal
the same thing happened with Walton, back in ’74 (different injury, same area)
by two4larue on Feb 19, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
bones are somewhat flexible or they'd all regularly snap like twigs
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yep. still in the boot. still happy go lucky.
by not making a trade i think the odds are increased we will see him back this year. my preference is to leave him out until september but who knows.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben - any suggestion that
part of the team strategy is based on the possibility (however remote) of getting the Miles cap money back? As has been discussed several times, I think we have a colorable argument that we could get the space.
If the powers that be think it’s possible, I can see how it might make them more hesitant to pull the trigger.
by samuelleejackson on Feb 19, 2009 2:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
thats possible. i do think the team has the potential to get the miles money back. at least a better chance than most people are giving them. my speculation is that having the money put back on the cap might have made them a little bit more gunshy to make a trade. it put more pressure on moving raef to be the “right move” because their flexibility is limited. if the miles money comes back off the possibiltiies now look endless given how much we are paying him and the expected down market for FAs
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Those were my feelings exactly.
Let’s get one of PA’s high-powered lawyers on it – I really think we have a shot at winning this thing.
by samuelleejackson on Feb 19, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i am certain they are on the case and i am certain they will not talk about it.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and I'm certain
that when Canzano catches wind of it he will rake them over the coals, again
by two4larue on Feb 19, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't that be ...
… after Canzano breaks wind, he’ll write an article about it.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 20, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Timetable for Martell's Return?
"Is RLEC a real person" -My beloved wife
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
by not making a trade i think the odds are increased we will see him back this year. my preference is to leave him out until september but who knows.
probably a month out. he’s still in the boot.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw that...thank you.
"Is RLEC a real person" -My beloved wife
by Ireallyliketheblazers on Feb 19, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if anyone's asked this
But was there anything to the possibility of getting Jefferson, or was that overhyped rumor like the Vince Carter stuff?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Feb 19, 2009 2:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
no concrete way really for me to know. i think he was a better possibility than carter. i think the team felt ultimately they can find better value at the 3 spot either with martell’s return and/or a pickup this summer. again we get into the age/contract size question again.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben
Paper or plastic?
Pipe or “water pipe?”
Blond or brunette?
T or A?
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 2:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
paper. can’t smoke anything anymore.
no comment.
no comment.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Ben. One more question.
What about love, don’t you want someone to care about you?
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
any last questions or shall we call this good?
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ben
Do you think they will buy out Ruffin’s contract, or do you think he sees the behind-the-bench seats?
by PtownJake on Feb 19, 2009 2:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
thats a good question. i could see that happening — definitely possibility. not sure if it really matters much one way or the other in the grand scheme of things.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
can you please start a "bring back Steven" movement
akin to the honor terry porter? I want my mountain man.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he injured?
Maybe more insurance money
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
given size of contract i doubt they insured the deal.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right. Cut him, free Shav.
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why?
it doesn’t seem that Ike ever played. So whose minutes does Shav get?
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
at what point do we see if Shav is better than Channing?
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
depends on greg’s health. otherwise i dont think nate is inclined to switch anything up.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Channing has been… unimpressive.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As in a nano meter is a long distance ...
… relative to a picometer.
rec for giving me a chuckle.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 20, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he was in 19 games to shav's 3
i think….
"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07
by LetsBlaze on Feb 19, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
actually he is insured for most of his contract
At least that is what Barrett said yesterday on the BFT.
"Brian (Outlaw is Rejector) is now on the fan saying he put this on to see what would happen " - 123_G.O._RipCity
by Outlaw is Rejector on Feb 19, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
interesting. unusual (as far as i know) to insure a small deal like that. i would trust MB he’s on the case.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Ben / Dave!! -
With all the roster changes across the board – Does this mean we are now the youngest team in the NBA????
by 5Blazers5 on Feb 19, 2009 3:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
someone correct me if im wrong but we got older and i think its golden state is the youngest and they didnt make a move. so i think we are still second — that includes raef of course.
by Ben. on Feb 19, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what kinda question was that?
how did we get younger by adding a 32 yr old player and giving up a 25 yr old player? u do the math!!!!
by blazersforlife on Feb 20, 2009 1:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one seriously disturbed by Oden?
With all the trades / All-star game news during the last week, I sure dont hear very much about how Oden is missing more games with the possibility of surgery. I am a huge Oden fan and I dont want to be to reactionary, but with what Durant is shaping up to be, this really is turning into Bowie / Jordan 2.0.
I hated when people would snap lame Same Bowie jokes, but I am dreading to see that Oden actually looks to be extremely injury prone, not a very good defender (although he has his moments), and much worse than I thought he would be. The fouls that he piles up are absolutely ridiculous.
Couple that with the fact that Durant looks like a top 5 player RIGHT NOW, and I have been feeling quite blue about our 2007 draft.
Imagine…..
Blake
Roy
Durant
Aldridge
Przybilla
With T Law, Webster, Frye, Rodriguez, Fernandez, RLEC that could all be used for trade bait to find another good Center to go with Przybilla (Tyson Chandler?). Our team would be SICK.
I still ove this team, but Oden is certainly a GIGANTIC Question mark. ugh
Your telling me Town and Country is the place to get my new ride??...hehuha
Yeah, I heard of them.
by Derftron on Feb 19, 2009 4:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Give it time....
I hope we don’t end up thinking if only we had drafted Durant… but we need to give Oden his time.
by Escrote on Feb 19, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KD would not be putting up the same numbers here in Portland
Kevin Durant would not have those huge numbers he’s putting up now because of the fact we have Roy and LA too carrying the scoring load….
by blazersforlife on Feb 20, 2009 1:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Small point, but ....
…. Chandler just got sent back to NO by a team that really wanted him, due to medical issues.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 20, 2009 8:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not that KP could be expected to have this kind of foresight...
… but if we’d played things perfectly, our lineup could be:
Blake
Roy
Durant
Aldridge
Chandler
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Feb 19, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
why stop there
isn’t this around the time someone mentions Webster and Jack over Chris Paul?
by abdelnaby on Feb 19, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
gosh darn it
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!!!!!!!!11
Sophia
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on Feb 19, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
John Nash.
John Nash.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
man if KP was so awesome
he would have had the foresight to see that John Nash was soon to be fired and he’d be the replacement GM, and would have overruled Nash anyway. Consider this lineup that we could have if KP was really as good as he says he is!
Paul
Roy
Durant
Aldridge
Chamberlain
by abdelnaby on Feb 19, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We could have had John Nash?
He would have been perfect to find a formula for draft and trade success.
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 19, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know............
I am still patient, and I certainly love what we have done with this team and I love watching them play. I was as big a supporter of drafting Oden as anybody, so Im not questioning KP.
But these injuries are popping up more than just “freak” accidents like microfracture. He is really showing signs that he cant stay healthy. Not a good sign for a 21 year old.
Your telling me Town and Country is the place to get my new ride??...hehuha
Yeah, I heard of them.
by Derftron on Feb 19, 2009 4:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was away so I missed the Oden injury ...
… but didn’t it occur during a game and was the result of bumping knees with another player?
That’s not freak nor a sign of an injury prone player. It’s what happens when abnormally large men run around in a small space at high speed.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 20, 2009 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am very concerned about Greg Oden
i knew “cracked patella” sounded bad.
Sophia
PS Tom Penn is cute. yes I said it he’s cute
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on Feb 19, 2009 4:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Someone did say that
But apparently it’s actually a “chipped patella.” Not nearly as alarming-sounding. According to our resident experts, the worst-case scenario with that is surgical removal of the offending chip, followed by a couple weeks out of action. Not that two weeks of Frye backing up Przy at center wouldn’t be trouble…
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 19, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly what I thought ... our remaining options on the front line outside of Joel are nothing to be excited about
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on Feb 19, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
when did it go from
swollen knee to chipped patella? i remember initial reports during the rookie/soph game said he wouldnt miss any time…and that he warmed up with the rookie team. now hes gonna miss at least 3 games. how much does the organization really know?
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by Philthyanimal on Feb 19, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they took an MRI
there is a chip of bone floating around his knee.
by Cablinasian on Feb 19, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was cracked at one point to according to Casey comment
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
by Dragline on Feb 19, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Darius Miles contract appeal
I heard that The Blazers are trying to get out of the impact of Darius’ contract at the end of the year with an appeal to the NBA. Could that work?
by Sonic Boom on Feb 19, 2009 5:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I've thought all along
that the patella chip could have a need to be sucked out. I suppose it depends on where it is. Let’s get a scope in there, remove it and let him start healing. Doesn’t sound like a big deal to me …. and I happen to be one who was very adverse to drafting Oden because of injury concerns (among others). But now, I’m very encouraged by him staying on the court thus far this season. Anyone can chip a bone. It’s not like he tore an ACL or anything. At this point, I don’t think it is at all that ominous.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
by TwoDeep on Feb 19, 2009 5:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
TwoDeep: you've come over to the light!
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Feb 20, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS:
ODEN COLLAPSES
Both legs “snapped like dry twigs”, report onlookers
Star C may never hold, dribble basketball again
BAYLESS ABANDONS TEAM
Frustrated by lack of minutes, rookie G bolts for Lakers
“$&#$(*#& this”, rebel guard overheard saying
PRITCHARD REVEALED TO BE INSIDIOUS SPACE MARTIAN
Wacky GM unveils plot to ruin Blazers from within
Witnesses report KP abandoning Rose Garden w RLEC tucked under tentacle
BLAZERS OWNER PAUL ALLEN SELLS OFF ROY, ALDRIDGE, RUDY
Reported deal for pack of stale Red Vines, partially used Fred Meyer gift card
“I hate success,” Allen confides to reporters
SKY FALLING
DRYLAND A MYTH
Or we could all just, y’know, chill out and have a beer.
by rivetz on Feb 19, 2009 6:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Are you kidding? In this economy?
Problem is, I had this gift card good for 12.7 million beers, but it’s worthless now, just worthless
by rivetz on Feb 19, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't worry about it
You’re gonna be sailing in a lake of frosty beer come summertime.
by Garces on Feb 19, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Martell was not wearing a boot
Im sorry to stur up any drama, but i saw Martell Webster at Washington Square yesterday afternoon around 2pm and i did not see him wearing a boot of any kind. He did look like he was hobbling as he was walking though.
by blazersforlife on Feb 20, 2009 1:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
cap for this summer is about 6 mil under
I heard yesterday on John Canzano’s BFT show, he said that Portland would be about 6 mil under the cap.
by blazersforlife on Feb 20, 2009 1:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You mean "Renowned capology expert" John Canzano, right?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Feb 20, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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