A Great Moment in Commenting History
by Ben Golliver on Feb 19, 2009 10:42 AM PST
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Blazers may try to trade Raef's contract in the last month
by John Canzano, The Oregonian
Thursday February 19, 2009, 8:14 AM
I wrote it today, and I'm going to say it again, I think the Blazers are only going to make a deal into the trade deadline if it's an absolute no-brainer.
The hunch here is that the Blazers realize they're in a position of leverage with Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract and are willing to hold that contract into the end of the season before making a deal with it. They can trade the contract prior to the end of their season.
It's also not lost that they'll collect nearly $5 million in insurance money if they do this because LaFrentz isn't able to play. Theoretically, this helps make up for some of the money lost with the return of Mr. Head Bop in Memphis.
Source inside the organization said the team feels like it can get a lopsided deal prior to the end of their season. This is a dramatic shift from where owner Paul Allen used to operate when he had Trader Bob running the show. And it's not the worst thing in the casino to wait as long as possible to act, see what's out there, when you're holding the best cards.
Well, that's certainly an interesting "hunch." Holding RLEC for later in the season to create leverage and increase trade value would be a great idea! That is, if the EC in RLEC didn't stand for Expiring Contract and there wasn't something called the trade deadline.
The phrase "expiring contract" is relatively self-explanatory.
To be crystal clear: the "expiring" part of "expiring contract" means that it is expiring and that you can't trade it after the season because you no longer hold it.
The phrase "trade deadline" is relatively self-explanatory too.
To be crystal clear: the "deadline" part of "trade deadline" means that it is a deadline and there are no trades after it until the season is completed. Once that happens, of course, only players under contract (not expiring or with team/player options) can be traded until the new salary cap year kicks in.
As you should hopefully have already known, Raef goes today or he comes off the Blazers books at the end of the season. There are no other options for RLEC.
OregonLive.com commenter "LODominating" chimes in on the very first comment (note: instead of writing "first!") and directs Canzano to the relevant passage of Larry Coon's Salary Cap page.
That simple comment was a one hitter quitter.
Canzano offers a strange response to the commenter but shortly thereafter posts a completely edited version of his story.
I salute you, LODominating.
Storyteller chimes in to clarify the real value of RLEC if the Blazers do not trade it.
The only reason that RLEC holds any value this summer is because it probably puts the Blazers below the cap if they don't trade him, giving them cap room to either make a FA signing or an unbalanced trade. For comparison, Wally Szczerbiak also has an expiring contract but he doesn't have any value to the Cavs this summer because you take his contract off the books and the Cavs are still above the cap.
So RLEC is unique. He has tremendous trade value today, but he also holds value to the Blazers in the sense that just letting him expire gives them cap room to make a deal this summer.
Holding RLEC does bring value to the Blazers - it's just not value in trading him. It might be value in making a trade using the cap space that he represents, but it is not ‘trade value for RLEC'.
Thanks, Storyteller, for Making It Better!
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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How can Canzano not know this stuff?
Say it isn’t so, John
Seriously - how?
His job, am I right, is to write about sports. The biggest (by far) thing going on in Oregon sports right now is the NBA trade deadline and what might happen with Raef’s contract.
How the &^%$ could anyone who’s job it is to write/talk/live this stuff NOT KNOW WHAT THE TRADE DEADLINE MEANS?
It’s a deadline. After the line, at 12:00 PST, trades are dead. It’s. Not. Complicated.
This would be like your accountant telling you it’s fine to file your taxes in June or July. It’s completely fascinating that he could be THAT misinformed. I’m impressed, really.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Feb 19, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
To be fair
It’s a complicated concept.
I mean, ‘trade deadline’ and ‘expiring contract’ could mean ANYTHING if you really think about it.
The CBA is very vague about this issue, just like the Darius career ending injury mess.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Feb 19, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's kinda like not feeding gremlins after midnight.
It’s ALWAYS after midnight, after all…
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
This is a little bit of an offcolor story, so I apologize
I took a class on Japanese Anime with a few friends. These are the advantages of being a Liberal Arts major, you get to do these things.
First day of class, the professor is going over the outline of the semester’s lessons. She mentions at one point how we’d by studying the use of “sexdroids” in film as a lens into gender relations.
The girl next to me leans over and whispers “What’s a sexdroid?” I briefly explain as best as I could, and she says “Ohhh…” and then, as if to explain herself, she adds “I haven’t seen any anime.”
My point is that the girl didn’t need to have been a fan of anime to know what a sexdroid was. It’s a compound word, a combination of two things. Pretty straightforward.
So when Canzano doesn’t know what a Trade Deadline is, I have to wonder: does he watch any basketball?
Don't be too hard on John Costanza
you know he really wanted to be a marine biologist
Still trying to figure out the C value paradox...
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Feb 19, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I study squid
I eat my lunch, I like to press wildflowers…
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Dude, don't knock studying squid or pressing wildflowers.
It’s actually pretty fun. (well, actually pressing wildflowers gets a bit irritating after a short bit, but finding the flowers is fun.)
".. is gumby an alien?"
I eat squid.
For that matter, I eat wildflowers as well.
How this ties to the post?
What I excrete after eating said objects is pretty much the same as Canzano is to sports opinion and writing.
hakkaa päälle !
Scotty is a lumberjack
Still trying to figure out the C value paradox...
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Feb 19, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
i love lamp
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Do you really love the lamp?
Or are you just saying it because you saw it.
Still trying to figure out the C value paradox...
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Feb 19, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
I thought he wanted to be an architect
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u8KUgUqprw
Still trying to figure out the C value paradox...
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Feb 19, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
so what does the "R" stand for
?
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
Really.
Really Large Expiring Contract, right?
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
ben dont lie, you know you love Canzano so much
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
Ben just shaved his head
And at 5am he momentarily wrote a post BLASTING Sergio for not paying his full bill at a gas station near the practice facility, and how it’s the same ol’ Jail Blazers all over again.
Ben’s final transformation will be complete once he finds someone who is dying that also likes sports, and he can all teach us a lesson about life, love, and the less fortunate in our society with an overwrought, self important article.
Mortimer
only if he pats himself on the back for it
and submits it for awards.
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Feb 19, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
The poor person who is losing their life
Didn’t even have a life, till Canzano gave them one.
Like a powerful deity, He has given them eternal life through the magic of his word processing program.
Mortimer, overly cynical about Jonny Canz sick-people articles.
and he receives hundreds of thousands of letters everyday
thanking him for his articles and how they touched peoples lives!! He truly is the new Jesus.
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Feb 19, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Okay guys. thanks.
Canzano distractions help. I’m dying here. 71 minutes to go……
Perfect practice makes perfect.
Sadly, I don't eben know what I want to happen anymore.
Is Martell’s boot off? Is he practicing?
Perfect practice makes perfect.
your awsome ben, fire canzano and hire BEN
Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212
http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html
Actually, the contract still has SOME value
We retain RLEC’s Bird rights until either a) we renounce him, or b) sign him.
If the Blazers just want to get under the cap, they renounce Raef, and his NBA career is probably done.
But if they want to acquire someone in a trade, the Blazers can do a Kieth Van Horn-style deal. The current CBA permits a new contract to have a team option after one year, so the team we do the sign-and-trade with signs Raef to a two-year deal with a team option after one year in a sign-and-trade, pays him to weed his garden for one year, then declines the option.
Not as valuable as a potential trade today, but it is an option.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions
Great point
A sign and trade could have signficant value.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Feb 19, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Just to be really picky
Although your concept is correct, the specifics would have to be changed under CBA rules.
All sign-and-trade contracts must be for at least 3 years. However, only the first year must be guaranteed. So the Blazers could sign Raef to a deal that guarantees him money in 2009-10 and has two more unguaranteed years (or a team option). And if a team thought that was valuable, they might make the deal. But Raef would have to agree to the contract, which could also be a sticking point.
I don’t see it happening, though. Portland can just use their cap room to make an unbalanced trade that would be even more appealing to the other team. After all, if you can give up your $10 million player and only have to take back $3 million in contracts (for example), why would you agree to trade that same $10 million player for another $10 million player, even if he was expiring the next season?
by Storyteller on Feb 19, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Why would Raef not agree to a deal
that pays him millions to do nothing?
Maybe he has honor or principle, or other silly things like that, but besides that.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Fire Canzano, fire his assistant, hire Storyteller (and me maybe)
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
You could have his radio show too
I hear Tom has a nice voice, so you could be co-hosts maybe
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
but TIH has a job already..notice he's not here. TIH=KP.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
what if he was right?
It’d be like when Woj was the only one anywhere who knew that the games DMiles played with the Celtics during the preseason counted..
What if Canzano had discovered a secret rule about expiring contracts that no one anywhere in the NBA had ever figured out!!! We could have had a great one up on everyone when KP said.. shortly before the Playoffs begin.. hey.. so who wants to get RLEC now? oh you didn’t think that we were allowed to trade him after the deadline? aah.. you must not read The Bald One..
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
He is wrong. He would have a point if it was a longer contract, then you can trade it once your season has ended e.g. just before the draft
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
What part of "Trade Deadline" was missed here?
How could you conceivably trade a player right before the season ends?
actually
I knew that.. but I think my point is still valid.. I mean.. who would have thought that Darius playing in preseason games would have counted towards the 10 games he needed to play? Preseason games don’t even count towards suspensions!! I think that was a pretty far out of left field.. and the fact that it was just some reporter who figured it out despite how apparently no one else knew about it.. I mean.. it would really not be that much more ridiculous than Canzano figuring out some loop hole where the trade deadline wasn’t really a deadline at all.. more of the IDEA of a deadline.. of course.. what actually does make it more ridiculous is that every year we see expiring contracts involved in trades…unlike Darius who was the first guy to return from a medical retirement
but I guess my sarcasm hat wasn’t painted brightly enough.. I remember when the media got pissy with Nash for not trading Shareef before the trade deadline because it meant that he would just be walking without any value coming back…
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
If Canzano is gonna operate a blog
he’s gotta learn the rule:
NO ERASING YOUR MISTAKES. Use strikethrough and own them like a man. Otherwise you ’re a putz.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 10:52 AM PST reply actions
He's been erasing his mistakes
and correcting them without acknowledging it for the past two years. It is rather sad as it happens on a frequent basis.
Does he know the rules of blogs?
Sheesh.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Probably not.
But he does know how to be corrected by people commenting in his blog, delete those comments, then use the correct information provided to him by those same people in his unacknowledged corrections.
He obviously doesn't know the rules of the sport he covers.
What gives you reason to believe he would know blog rules?
hakkaa päälle !
I sometimes erase typos
Always if self-caught, usually if pointed out in the comments.
I strikethrough on factual information.
Maybe Mr. Canzano considered the whole “trade the RLEC later” thing a typo?
—Dave
He needs to proofread instead of use spell check
Still, is Portland a playoff team if they do nothing at the deadline?
I think they area. But they’ll get beat up in the playoffs.
I think they area?
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
I like how he said
“Source inside the…”
instead of “A source” or “Sources…”
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
by prezofdeath on Feb 19, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Newspapers can no longer afford copyeditors
Canzano knows his employment prospects are limited. Seriously.
The Big O has been slashing content left and right, while raising rates. They can’t charge zillions of dollars for ads anymore because of the Internet thingy, and pay fatheads like him lots of money to bore the readers.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
also
This is a dramatic shift from where owner Paul Allen used to operate when he had Trader Bob running the show.
should be “how” or something similar
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
by prezofdeath on Feb 19, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
love the boat slam at the end
seriously, if anyone had as much money as paul allen, you KNOW they’d buy a huge boat
I like his boat
You get to say things like “let’s not take that helicopter, let’s take the nice helicopter”
That sentence would make no sense on most boats.
i would kill for his boats
i love boats, fishing, etc.
go check out the comments on that story. apparently some people want to kill paul because he owns big boats. morons
I am saving up for
a boat the size of his dinghy.
by HardCorvallis on Feb 19, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Paul Allen has a bigger dinghy than you
sorry Icouldn’t help myself.
Keeping RLEC
I think it’s a fantasy that we’ll be far enough under the cap to do anything meaningful if we keep RLEC.
No trade = cost cutting, pure and simple. The team is gambling that we’ll make the playoffs with the group we have. I’m not so sure.
by Hawthorne Wingo on Feb 19, 2009 10:57 AM PST reply actions
No, we'd be far enough under the cap
It makes it so we can do a lopsided trade in the offseason, salary wise.
Some are saying we’d be 7 million or so under the cap. We can send out 5 million, take back 12 million, for example.
There isn’t a free agent we’d likely really want this offseason, so even with full cap space we’d still likely be doing a trade to get who we want… and we still can.
Morty
But if we were interested in such a trade...
why wait? Who is the hypothetical $12 million player you’d want? If it’s, for example, Jefferson, then why wait for the summer?
by Hawthorne Wingo on Feb 19, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe we don't want him by then
Maybe Webster comes back healthy and we say “Jefferson who?”
Maybe the deals get better, or we can get a lottery pick out of it.
I really can’t say for sure who we would get with it, just as I can’t say right now who we could get that we’d for sure want. Maybe the deal just gets sweeter by then, since a team won’t have to pay 20% of any big contract, they can just take the savings that sending out a big contract and only getting back 3 to 5 million gives them.
It’s all about what is available right now (which of course I dunno), and what KP and Friends think could be more available in the summer/draft day.
M—
One hour left...
Think KP’s called Rod Thorn and said “because you’re such an [impolite term for that body part connected to the lower intestine], it’s now gonna cost you TWO draft picks and Vince to get the RLEC. MWahahahahahaha”….
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions
You have more than one?
My sympathy.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I love that Ben caught this and gave it too all of us to mock at.
Not making any friends at the Oregonian though… between Canzano and the HORRRRRRIBLE Geoffrey C. Arnold the NBA BBIQ is approaching Dudley’s free throw percentage.
Rudy's 3rd Rule: When not shooting on offense, you should be communicating, passing, and running. Also, yell "Foul!" repeatedly. Why? How can officials summon help if you yell "Good D!" or "Our opponents are superior!"?
by Blazermaniac77 on Feb 19, 2009 11:01 AM PST reply actions
BBIQ of the Oregonian that is
Rudy's 3rd Rule: When not shooting on offense, you should be communicating, passing, and running. Also, yell "Foul!" repeatedly. Why? How can officials summon help if you yell "Good D!" or "Our opponents are superior!"?
by Blazermaniac77 on Feb 19, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Thank god for Craigslist. :)
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Storyteller's post is the untold story....
If PA wants to spend money he can do it in the offseason with a $3 mill exemption, and being under the cap KP can trade for anyone (I think?? Anyone know?) since we are under the cap and the salaries don’t have to match. Plus with the number of calls KP has made this week, I think he has a pretty good idea of what other teams want with draft picks, salaries etc and can get us exactly what we need to be a serious contender next year.
...things go well I might be showing my O face...O...O...O...you know what I'm talking about.
Actually
if the Blazers are under the cap, they lose the trade exception.
The basic rule is that if making a personnel move puts you over the cap by more than $100,000, you cannot do it unless you utilize an exception.
Teams under the cap do not have, nor do they need, exceptions.
by Storyteller on Feb 19, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
but can they make ANY trade with uneven salaries...ie Lebron for Sergio?
...things go well I might be showing my O face...O...O...O...you know what I'm talking about.
No, still has to match
You can just use the amount you are under the cap as a buffer.
I should just let Storyteller handle this why am I butting in?
M—
Makes sense, thanks.
so why if we are going to be under the cap would we care about the $3 mil exception from Sac?
...things go well I might be showing my O face...O...O...O...you know what I'm talking about.
That is the $3 million dollar trade exception question, I guess
Though I am positive Storyteller could answer it better than I.
—M—
The trade exception
can be used on or near draft day. For example, trading a 2nd round pick in exchange for a 1st round pick and a $3 million salary. Similar to what the Blazers did in trading for James Jones and the draft pick that brought Rudy.
by Storyteller on Feb 19, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
thanks Story that makes sense now...KP loves draft picks
...things go well I might be showing my O face...O...O...O...you know what I'm talking about.
I know we're just being mean silly heads
But it’s funny all the same.
With each mock, Johnny Canz only grows stronger, of course.
Morty
Canzano is a tool.
Regarding BRoy:"Another day, another buzzer-beater. This man is so clutch he sets his body clock to go off one second before his alarm does every morning."
~Rob D from NBAmate
________ as a bag of hammers
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
by prezofdeath on Feb 19, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Oh man, Ben is off Canzano's Christmas card list now...
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
by timbo on Feb 19, 2009 11:05 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
This is how you assassinate a local media personality
You don’t do it behind closed doors, you lop off his head in front of the whole court.
AND NOW BEN IS IN CHARGE.
M—
.......... what I really found pathetic and amusing and amuzingly pathetic was Dwight Jaynes on "Old Dudes Talkin' Ball" last night...
………………………………….. when he announced, to rim shots off camera, that he refers to the Raef LaFrentz Expiring Contract as “Relic — R – L – E – C.”
Yuk yuk.
Take my wife, please!
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
not to mention
he acted like he came up with RLEC, that show is such a joke, I watch it because of lack there of anything else talking Blazers. They need Ben on the show!
Rudy's 3rd Rule: When not shooting on offense, you should be communicating, passing, and running. Also, yell "Foul!" repeatedly. Why? How can officials summon help if you yell "Good D!" or "Our opponents are superior!"?
by Blazermaniac77 on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ben
I already liked you. I am now thinking of proposing. Punking Canzano puts you at the top of my list.
Maybe Ben can alter the text of this post in honor of Canzano filing his idiocy down the digital memory hole...
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
I like how this forum is expanding it's horizons...
we don’t just talk about Blazers and salaries and whatnot anymore…
now we have two legitimate heavyweight bouts to draw our interest, too:
ben vs. the bald one (the sheer distaste for JC by ben is painfully obvious)
&
Dave vs. the big “M” in LaMarcus (what a battle!)
Give the man his "M"!!!
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Feb 19, 2009 11:07 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Canzano just got BEN-Slapped for his article
...things go well I might be showing my O face...O...O...O...you know what I'm talking about.
LOL
love it
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Feb 19, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Just think.
The newspaper business sucks these days. Jaynes is already out at the Trib.
In a year or two, the only credentialed journalist in town covering the Blazers might be—Ben.
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 11:09 AM PST reply actions
If that is the case
I hope Ben is getting paid by then.
I can only offer a coupon for a killer free backrub, redeemable from M to F, 10am to 3pm.
Morty
Are you licensed?
Or a pervert? Or both?
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 19, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Man, I didn't know you could get a license to be a pervert.
One question though. Do you have to be licensed or can you still freelance?
hakkaa päälle !
God, Portland press is just awful.
Living in SF, where Kawakami does his thing, it’s like a night and day difference.
by howlingfantods on Feb 19, 2009 11:09 AM PST reply actions
I'm not quite sure what the point of this whole post is
To mock canzano? Is that necessary? Sure, he got it wrong, but also got his facts set straight and thanked the person who corrected him. Sure, his journalistic integrity may be in question, but is that really what this site is about?
"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP
Stop being so reasonable, or I'll start something with YOU!!!
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
Canzano is that you?
...things go well I might be showing my O face...O...O...O...you know what I'm talking about.
he wouldnt post on here
because you cant go back and edit your comments. :)
It was "mascot night" at the Rose Garden, which apparently translates to a dozen inflatable versions of various NBA mascots being chased around the arena by Portland's "Blaze", which is some breed of rapist dog. -PostingandToasting
by GreatOden'sRaven on Feb 19, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
haha
No, I’m not Canzano, and I don’t particularly call for him. It’s pretty clear he’s got a Napoleon Complex. But frankly I think it’s unnecessary to attack his journalistic integrity with a whole post devoted to it, rather than just a fanshot, or something more fitting.
"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP
It's not just a minor fact, though.
The level of misunderstanding here really brings into question his credibility when talking about any trade-related subjects.
I mean, to the extent he has any credibility.
by howlingfantods on Feb 19, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
this stinks!
All this buildup for Ruffin and a trade exception. This team is struggling right now and we havn’t even hit the difficult stretch run. As constitutued, I think we are in serious danger of not making the playoffs this season.
KP HAS said that "the one chip he wants to play" is the RLEC. But that wasn't this week...
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
Clownzano!
Strikes again. That is absolutely amazing. High school newspaper writers don’t make idiotic mistakes like that. Heck, even in middle school I was pretty clear about what the words “deadline” and “expiring” meant. What a worthless idiot.
I believe...
Canzano could manage to overstate his own name. Whenever he uses that sanctimonious tone (oh wait, he always uses that) “I have said it before and I will say it again. Water flows downhill until it meets the ocean. There, deal with it.” about something involving the Blazers, I often imagine someone in the PR department having a good chuckle.
Yah,
and nearly every national basketball writer has been severely criticized on this site as well. Guess it makes some people feel good to tear down others.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
No
I just think that Canzano is quite bad. And he is not a national writer, he is an important source of local information for local fans. I do not dislike him for the sake of disliking him; I think that Quick is an excellent beat writer but as far as columnists go I believe the Big O could do much much better.
You cannot
possibly stick up for this guy. You know how embarrassing it is to have absolute idiot for a local columnist? If you didn’t have a reason to let him go before, please Oregonion GET HIM OUT OF HERE. He’s an embarrassment to our entire community.
Are you his Mom?
On his show he constantly says “If I make a mistake, I own up to it”
He should say “If i make a mistake, I’ll delete it and hope no one notices”
This is just another reminder that he has absolutely no clue what he is talking about ever. The guy is a total blowhard.
Life is hilarious.
Can we now bash Jason Quick too?
"I think something big is gonna happen… I believe it will be a watershed day for portland tomorrow…We’ve been hearing names like Vince Carter, Richard Jefferson, Danny Granger, Andre Miller"
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
Dear Ben,
When I rule the world, I believe I can find a place for you in my administration. Something in “media relations” or something. I’ll back-date your salary to today for this piece of work.
Storyteller? I want him to run my intelligence agency….
People are missing the most bizarre part of this:
Source inside the organization said the team feels like it can get a lopsided deal prior to the end of their season.
That is obviously an out and out lie. He ought to be fired for that one. No source inside the organization would have ever said any such thing. Citing sources, John? Really? If I’m your boss, I’ll want the name of the person who told you that.
When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.
by jscot on Feb 19, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
canzano
only shows up around the trade deadline, the draft, or after something big happens. He’s not really hooked in … that’s what bugs me about him. I don’t feel like he’s earned the trust with his readers to make these claims. He’s basically the steven a. smith of portland.
thank you sir. and you’re right that the real kudos here go to storyteller.
by Ben Golliver on Feb 19, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Now I feel sorry for Canzano
You guy need to be nice. This is the exact same thing as the Blazers fans booing Miles.
"I determined early in my career, the only important statistic in basketball is the final score." Bill Russell
Now he points to Outlaw as our trade bait for the summer
What player not available now exactly are we going to get for Travis and 6 million in cap space? Deng? Granger? I have a hard time seeing that.
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
Interesting article
Time for Outlaw to excel. – Elgin
Since when do we need to ponder to froth? - jscot
Hey Ben
What happens now when you see Canzano at practice? He’s gotta know who you are, and he’s gotta know you wrote this. Is this where you jump up in the journalist pecking order by exposing his ignorance?
Is this something he takes with good-natured aplomb?
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