Tuesday Practice Report: Greg Out Tomorrow
by Ben Golliver on Feb 17, 2009 7:31 PM PST
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The big news first...
- Greg is out for tomorrow's game. He said the soreness and swelling wouldn't allow him to play tomorrow... it's not just a case where the team is holding him out and being over-cautious. Greg was at practice in gym shoes (don't think he went through any drills) and took questions very briefly at the end. He said the good news is that he feels a bit more rested after the time he spent at home with family and friends. Greg remains today and Nate and Greg both said check back on Thursday for an update regarding whether he will play Friday. Greg is meeting again with a doctor tomorrow.
- Blake practiced today and returns to the starting lineup tomorrow. Nate said Blake was "probable" but implied he was playing. Blake looked in good spirits and was shooting fine. Reportedly he took a shot at practice on the shoulder and didn't think anything of it. Obviously that's a good sign.
- Nate said that the team will return to its old rotation, meaning Blake starts, Sergio backs him up and Jerryd is squeezed out. Asked if leaving Bayless out of the rotation was "harsh," Nate admitted it was but said it would be harsh if Sergio was left out too. Commence your second-guessing and trade speculating... now.
- For the record Bayless was still shooting jumpers when I left the Practice Facility. Only Batum was still hanging around.
- KP and other management were not present to take any trade questions at practice. Nate did talk briefly about the value of expiring contracts.
9:30 PM Update:
- I clarified some points above so be sure to check those out.
- Trade speculation: most media members admit to not having a freaking clue what is going to happen. The consensus remains that KP will move RLEC; more and more speculation thinks it will be in a big move. The consensus take on the Chandler deal was that it sets a baseline of expectations for what expiring contracts are worth in this economy, meaning RLEC should bring a primo return. Multiple media members said they would be disappointed if RLEC was not dealt.
- Nate on expiring contracts and Raef's in particular: "That has been something that has been valuable for years: expiring contracts. For players that have 1 year left on their deal. It's not anything that is new to the league. We felt that it would be a contract that we can use but until somebody makes it valuable it's just a contract."
- Story time...
Alright, so I don't know if any of you saw the game on Sunday night: USC played Arizona State. As I wrote a few weeks ago, Coach Nate was looking forward to having the opportunity to watch this game, because his son plays for Arizona State.
I tuned in for the last few minutes of the game and what did I see? A monumental meltdown from USC's coach Tim Floyd, who absolutely lost it when USC guard Daniel Hackett was called for charging against, you guessed it, Nate's son Jamelle.
Here's the video of the meltdown. It's pretty funny.
Now, put yourself in Nate's shoes. Your son just took a huge (albeit questionable) charge at the end of a relatively important Pac-10 game.
For once in your life, you're just a spectator (and a father) rather than a coach. How do you react to the situation? Do you celebrate? Jump to your son's defense? What's your take as you watch another coach go completely ape? I had to ask him.
You were at the USC game. What'd you think of the ending?
It was a good game. It was a good game.
[smiles] Oh, you're talking about Tim?
Yeah, your son took a charge and then...
You're talking about with Tim Floyd. Questionable call. Tim... those college coaches say some words that I thought only adults should hear. He was frustratated. He was upset about some of the calls and he went out there to protect his players.
Is it kind of funny to watch that as a coach, to watch another coach react like that? Did you just sit back and smile?
No. You look at what he was arguing. [As a coach], you put yourself in his position. You look at the call and what was his argument. I thought he had a legitimate argument. But I mean, to go that far, I think he felt like the game was probably over. That was a big play because they scored on that basket, an and one.
[If the call had gone the other way], it certainly would have gotten them close. I thought he felt that was a big play.
The thing was to send a message to the officials. And [a message] to his team: "you worked hard, but we didn't get any breaks tonight."
It seemed like he genuinely lost it though, don't you think?
He lost it. [laughs]
Have you ever lost it like that?
I have but not quite like that. He did [lose it]. [Laughs]
I talked to Tim after the game. He [still] felt like it was a questionable call.
So after all that time, after talking to his team, he still stuck to his guns?
He did. He did. [laughs]
A brief but telling exchange. Notice what's completely missing from Nate's account? The fact that his son was in the middle of it. Nate left his Dad hat in the closet in favor of his Coach hat, even though he was on a rare vacation with his family (remember Nate was at Summer League and in Beijing last summer, so the all star break was his longest rest in a year).
On a day when Coach Nate was looking a little weary in the face of renewed questions about Greg's health, it was nice to see him chuckling over this situation in a "I'm just glad it wasn't me" kind of way.
But it is striking how differently he saw the end of the game compared to most fathers. Nate rationally broke the play down. He empathized with the losing Coach. He imagined a postgame rallying speech to the players on the losing team.
A total 180 from what usually plays out in the parents' section at all levels of play: proud dads 1) kissing their wives and jumping up and down at their son's great play and/or 2) peeved at the "poor sportsmanship" of the opposing team's coach.
For some reason, I can't help but imagine Nate giving his son a ride home after the big win, telling Jamelle that he needs to "stay connected" on defense and rotate more quickly so that his feet are properly set in the event that the ref in the next game doesn't blow the call.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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Set the T-Rex free
Blake starts, Sergio backs him up and Jerryd is squeezed out. Commence your second-guessing and trade speculating… now.
Sergio must go
Ben?
I mean could they be hiding a BIG injury? Or is your feel that this is just a minor thing and/or more rest? Tell me what your gut says if you don’t have any better source for info.
Why?
Come on Ben
I know you read these comments. Please tell us what is the scoop? This sounds significantly worse then what we heard over the weekend. He couldn’t play if he wanted to. Leaving desire out of the equation if the injury is keeping him out tomorrow one would assume it will be longer. The question is how long? Any info or thoughts?
Why?
He just wrote that he was going to eat and write more in a couple of hours...
I don’t think he’s pretending not to read the posts
Ben reads the comments
so you should read his posts. He’s getting dinner! Mmmmmmm dinner
I’m sure he’s not just ignoring us to build tension. But if he is, it’s working. I need a massage
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
My bad
I missed that part. Can’t he type and eat like I do? The news today worked me into a lather. Norkstroll’s comment soothed the savage beast and I’m all better again.
Why?
i clarified the wording above. that’s all they are saying. he’s still listed as day to day.
by Ben Golliver on Feb 17, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
dude no teams helped us out tonight except mabey the knicks
PHeonix crushing the clips, Houston Crushing the Nets, utah up by 3 in the 3rd to memphis and New orleans beats the Durants by 2.
Yes he said he couldn’t play if he wanted to.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Oh good grief. It's just a turn of phrase. Don't read stuff into it.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
Wow
well. I gotta say. Unless that statement is clarified as a turn of phrase with no thought behind it (my hope) then forget winning one ring let alone 15 to reference your quote. If he doesn’t care there go any chances at a ring. I’ve heard that knock before but this is the first time I’ve heard something from him like that.
Why?
He's the one who said he wanted fifteen championships
stop freaking out. Greg cares, probably too much. It’s a common idiom.
Let me be crystal clear
I’m a big Oden fan but this newest injury concerns me quite a bit. Idiom or not him being out tomorrow is worrisome.
Why?
for a day to day injury?
come on dog. I really like your contributions to this site usually, but this is a little over the top.
I like whatever metric makes a Blazer look better.
Yeah I calmed down
below. I thought maybe something worse was being hidden. Foolish me. I fell afoul of the knee-jerk reaction.
Why?
That kind of injury is painful and causes swelling
Even if you are a tough guy. But it heals quickly, provided it’s just a small bone chip as all reports are saying. If the chip is “dislodged” and floating around, the knee needs to be arthroscopically scoped and flushed (close to the surface, nothing deep). Then he will be out for about two weeks, with no problems apart from some more stupid comments on ESPN. If nothing is floating around, then it’s over in a week or so.
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 17, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
See also here at close to the bottom of the comments, where LetsBlaze gives some insight
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/2/17/761785/everyone-s-talking-3s#comments
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
Chill
I royally sprained my ankle sliding into 2nd base.
Later that night a friend says "I guess you’re not playing hoops tonight".
I respond "I couldn’t play if I wanted to".
Haven’t we all used this phrase. The thought is, we would want to under normal circumstances.
I use inadequate metaphors all the time, or the wrong one for the current situation. I would imagine under media pressure I would even be more clumsy in my speech.
GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
that was a paraphrase. i clarified it above.
He said the soreness and swelling wouldn’t allow him to play tomorrow… it’s not just a case where the team is holding him out and being over-cautious
by Ben Golliver on Feb 17, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Oden
I’ve read a bunch of different reports on his injury. These range from he could’ve played last week, to this may be a bigger issue. For the most part I’m reading that it’s a DTD type injury and that he just needs to rest it a couple of days.
You would think
But Oden doesn’t seem to heal very fast. Of course his agent, Conley SR., is spinning this thing as if it was a mild bug bite. You just never know with Greg, but I’ll stay optimistic, as always!
WTH
How do you come to that conclusion? Players take a year off after microfracture surgery. As for the injury in the beginning of the year, he came back earlier than expected.
Micro
It’s obvoius that he isn’t completely healed from the Micro. I’m not holding it against him. The dude still walks and runs with a limp though.
Its Obvious
You don’t know the nature of microfracture surgery. It is customary for players to take TWO YEARS for full recovery.
He had that "limp" in high school
And he’s been flying a lot. Not a good way to cut down swelling. At all.
He’ll be fine, or he won’t.
Let’s wait and see.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 17, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Ben Feel free to delete the fanpost I created on your twitter updates. Just wanted to the info out there.
I dont think the Oden injury is a big deal, he will be fine, don’t rush it.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
appreciate it man. keep posting them until people get the hang of how it will work.
by Ben Golliver on Feb 17, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
For Dwight Howard. Who tonight had 45 points, 19 boards, and 8 blocks. Start the rumor now. Please
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
CP3 might be ticked off at this point
Do we do an Oden for CP3 trade?
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 17, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
A natey solution to this:
Keep playing Lamarcus with the second unit (after the other 4 sub out) like he has, but slide him to the center ala last year and run bayless as a 2 guard in the first/second units. Your point guard rotation stays the same pretty much, Joel will get more minutes, and Bayless would be essentially fighting frye for minutes unless we are playing against giants; but we beat orlando like this (LMA small ball) at the beginning of the season, often LMA plays better when he goes up against slower, dumber big men.
Get well soon big Greg.
Don't Redeactivate Shavlik Randolph
The comment about going back to the old rotation reads more like Ben's interpretation than a direct quote from Nate
Nate said that the team will return to its old rotation, meaning Blake starts, Sergio backs him up and Jerryd is squeezed out. Commence your second-guessing and trade speculating… now.
Couldn’t he just mean that Blake of course would start again when he says “return to the old rotation”, but nothing is set for the backup?
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
incorrect. he specifically stated sergio will back up blake. just as i wrote it.
by Ben Golliver on Feb 17, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
B-rex is getting angry
You wouldn’t like B-rex when he’s angry.
"Bayless is awesome." -Clyde Drexler
I have the over/ under at 12 days
Before Sergio disappears under suspicious circumstances and a half-eaten bottle of ketchup and one of Serge’s socks is found in BRex’s locker.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 17, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well
I had it as “a bottle of half-eaten ketchup” but that seemed even more disgusting.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 17, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Just as it should be.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
One wonders if this is being done
to showcase Sergio…
There is no charge for awesomeness. Or attractiveness.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 17, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
I just sit in front of my computer hitting refresh waiting for some crazy news. I can’t wait until this deadline passes.
Well, you can go to bed now. The NBA operates under East Coast time, and nobody in the league office will approve any trade today :)
Even the OKC – New Orleans one isn’t formally through the ticker yet
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
that f'in sucks
I don’t know how or when it happened, but I’m obsessed with Oden. I have trouble even enjoying the game when he’s not in. His two biggest challenges: injuries and fouls make that all too common an occurrence.
Bring back the Uncle Cliffy!
by hawkblogger on Feb 17, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I have level 12 Oden-flu where I need as big a fix weekly as we can squeeze out of our rookie center. It used to be I wanted Oden or Rudy on the floor to FULLY engage and now it’s Oden or Bayless. I still love watching the team without either on the court but it’s not quite the same feeling of “At any moment something spectacular could occur”. I think I’m spoiled with Roy and expect him to bring the flavor.
Why?
I still think Oden has a good chance to be great, but you can't live on the razor's edge
waiting for it to happen. He is what he is and time will tell. In the meantime, I think I’m better off without expectations.
once you're comitted it's easy to be taken away.
Buy the ticket, take the ride.
"Bayless is awesome." -Clyde Drexler
- Come on, take the ticket. We’re busy here.
-Come on, take the ticket. Take it.
-Take the ticket.
- I need this. Right ?
I’ll remember your face.
(There is no way of explaining the terror I felt.)
I like whatever metric makes a Blazer look better.
by einman77 on Feb 17, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Fantastic
miss Dr. Gonzo more then ever. I think the world was becoming so surreal the old master knew his reporting would only seem rea like everyone elses’l and so he exited stage right.
Why?
I've always thought the same thing
The masters of surrealism know when reality is catching up with them, know when it’s time to go.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 17, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
You are totally
right in your attitude by the way. I’m sick and in my weakened condition over reacting.
Why?
What is the update on Marty?
Is he still on schedule to be back at the beginning of March?
Can you imagine the Trail Blazer rookies
getting drunk the night before training camp, and throwing up on Nate as he pulls into the facility?
by EngineerScotty on Feb 17, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Oregonian
Blazers coach Nate McMillan said Joel Przybilla will start in Oden’s place and Channing Frye will assume backup duties.
McMillan said Blake would regain his starting job and Sergio Rodriguez would return to the second unit.
“I’ll get past this; it’s no problem,” Oden said. “I wasn’t happy to hear about it at all. (But) I feel that it won’t take that long for me to get back out there.”
Further exam on Wednesday with team doctors
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
by Norsktroll on Feb 17, 2009 8:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
i guess my bayless at shooting guard fantasies won't come true
make shots frye!
make shots frye!
Don't Redeactivate Shavlik Randolph
It's Memphis
They just lost to Utah by almost 20. If they start Gasol and Warrick again, Channing and Travis (assuming LMA isn’t in, but he will likely play a ton) face the notorious duo of Darko Milicic and Darrell Arthur. Maybe a bit of Darius on the 4 as well. It doesn’t get much better than against that lineup without your second true center :)
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
I thought about making Rose my profile picture for some time too :)
Brandon is one of those quiet assassins. - Chris Paul
GOD, ANOTHER INJURY
FUNNY THING IS WHEN ODEN MISSED THE ROOKIE GAME HE SAID HE WOULDA PLAYED IF IT WAS A REGULAR GAME. OBVIOUSLY NOW ITS PRETTY MUCH YEA RIGHT.
BY THE WAY DURANT GOES FOR 47 TONIGHT SIGHS
CAPS LOCK IS FOR IDIOTS
NO I WILL NOT BE POLITE
Karma
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 17, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
THAT IS ALL!!!!!!!!!
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 17, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Everything is worse 2 days after
At least for me.
By the way Durant lost the game.
Rec this comment for good luck.
lol classic
By the way Durant lost the game.
Yes
I’m glad that a few people around here are aware that basketball is a TEAM GAME. Hello! Ever notice that practically every time Kobe scores over 50, his team loses? Wilt once averaged 50 ppg for an entire SEASON—but his team went nowhere. Not coincidentally, he finally won a ring when he decided to sacrafice his scoring for team play. (I don’t recall the number, but I think he averaged around HALF as many points the year he won a championship.)
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
One thing we have to remember about Greg's injury
because he sat out of an all star weekend event, he has to at least miss the next regular season game. The NBA made this rule within the last couple of years so guy’s wouldn’t fake injuries to miss the all star game, but never miss any time in the regular season. Something along the lines of this….
“there is a rule in place in the Association. If you play in the last game prior to, and the next game following the All-Star Game, and don’t play in the exhibition, you will be suspended.”
by SalemORguy on Feb 17, 2009 8:57 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Wow
So I guess an x-ray of a bone chip floating around in your kneecap wouldn’t matter to those guys.
GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Greg Oden's injuries are starting to get out of control. This guys body is too fragile. I'm glad we have him but
he needs to start being more careful.
well I don't want Oden playing like he's afraid to get hurt all the time...
Heres the thing though, its not just that Greg is the unluckiest guy in the league. Bumping knees, jamming fingers, rolling ankles, anyones who’s ever played basketball at any level would tell you that these things happen every GAME. Travis Outlaw for instance has probably gotten a ton of “tweak” type injuries in his 5 years but he’s only really been injured and missed significant time once, when he got a really bad sprained ankle. What I’m slowly starting to realize is that Greg has the kind of body that just doesn’t stand up to bumps and bruises like some other players. Ouch! Rudy just landed awkward on that guy and is clutching his leg…oh, he shook it off and will be back in the second half. Hey, did Greg just bump knees with that guy? I dunno, I just bumped my knee on the coffee table with about that much force…HEADLINE: Greg Oden day to day…cracked knee cap…uncontrollable swelling…too much pain to play…MRI’s pending
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand..
T-Mac’s season is over.
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
Exactly, it doesn't just happen to everyone, it only happens to him. Something is wrong with his body. He needs
a trainer like the one that worked with Michael Jordan to strengthen his entire body. This guy did studies and helped Jordan bulk up and reduce his likelihood of injury.
by BRoyInThe4th on Feb 17, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
you mean they still play basketball?
that totally suck because how can i spend all of my time focusing on the trade rumors when they are actually playing? at least its only memphis
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
seriously
I was just working on my 37th espn trade machine link fan post. I know it pisses people off and there are like 5 different trade drawers to post my idea in but hey, its trade deadline week!
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
Michael Jordan's leftovers = Blazers goodness
This has an interesting Blazers connection (from Sports Illustrated)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/steve_aschburner/02/16/kerr.paxson/index.html
Scroll down to “WORST DRAFT MOVE” & say thanks to the Blazers (Pritchard-esque) gods.
Think bigger picture, mangs
Sergio HAS to get serious backup PG minutes, since he’s a likely trade component. SHOWCASING, kids, showcasing.
And Oden’s quote, I think, is a nod to the NBA rule that you can’t play the games immediately before/after the Rookie game or you get fined. My guess is he’s trying to say that he wants to play but forces beyond his control are keeping him out.
BTW a chipped patella isn’t a big deal. Worst-case: quick scope & back in two weeks (I know, I’ve been scoped); more likely, swelling for 3-5 days but playable throughout.
As long as it's just one more game...
If Bayless is still #3 on the depth chart come Friday, the T-Rex will bust out and KP will only have himself to blame for all the carnage
Who designed the twitter page?
I am afraid of saying something mean; if it a 13 year old did it as his/her first webpage, it’s great, but if Ben did it… mmm…. it’s…. uh…. awesome?
I haven't seen it
but let me guess: it’s cover is pics of sweet kicks?
"Bayless is awesome." -Clyde Drexler
the image came from a BE reader. i just set it to tile. yeah i should probably put more thought into it. lol
by Ben Golliver on Feb 17, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
I like the BaylessFace tile
What’s the problem here?
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 17, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
so
i made the pic, and im a little older then 13 so i think we have beef now?
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on Feb 17, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
jerryd is getting bad end of the stick
but his time will come, hopefully hell still be on the court 10 to 15 minutes with blake back. this is a nice vote of confidence in sergio and it would suggest to me that he isnt going anywhere
OOOO THAT WAS NASTAY! wheels
um
I think this suggests Sergio IS on the block. This “vote of confidence” is pretty necessary if KP wants other teams to consider Sergio a positive trade component. If Jerryd passed Sergio over, that’d be a signal to the league that Sergio isn’t ready to contribute and would decrease his trade value immediately.
Think of it this way:
KP: No, we can’t give you that, but how about Sergio? Look at his performance as a starter, he’s ready to go!
GM: But you’re playing a rookie ahead of him.
KP: Oh, um…
No no no
I really hope that’s a baseless rumor. He wouldn’t add anything positive to the squad, imo. I know SF is an area in need of upgrade if KP/Nate want to make a run in the playoffs this year, but there has to be a better way. My SF order in terms of preference (assumes Prince isn’t moving) based on cost/how they’d help Portland.
1. Gerald Wallace
2. Caron Butler (I think he’s a better fit than Wallace, but the Wiz might want a lot in return)
873. R Jeff and VC (tie)
I just don’t think volume shooters in their late 20s who rely on their athleticism are what this team needs right now. Now if Jefferson includes Sessions, move that up to 3.
An admission: After the OKC game, I said some things. Stupid things. Things about Nate not knowing how to coach GO. It was only then I realized that I was in danger of becoming that which I most loathe - an uninformed, knee jerk fan who reacts to wins with wild delusions of championships and losses with trade and firing fodder. I will not be that fan. From this point on I will support the Blazers, the coaches and front office wholeheartedly, offering praise and criticism appropriate to the matter at hand. I will never again be "that guy".
Blazeaddict
2/9/2009
by blazeraddict on Feb 17, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
If KP decides to do that trade
Then I’m for it.
I trust KP, period.
We lose track of the fact that KP has a much better handle on what guys are worth, how they would fit in here, and where the team needs to go.
I have faith in KP, even if I don’t want VC on this team.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 17, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
I trust KPs judgment. But he must have some real back channel information putting his mind at ease if he’s considering VC. Of course, this could just be rumors, but Vince Carter makes me so nervous it’s not even funny. Of course, if he pulled one of those stunts where he dogged it, we might be treated to the sight of Jerryd Bayless strangling him :)
An admission: After the OKC game, I said some things. Stupid things. Things about Nate not knowing how to coach GO. It was only then I realized that I was in danger of becoming that which I most loathe - an uninformed, knee jerk fan who reacts to wins with wild delusions of championships and losses with trade and firing fodder. I will not be that fan. From this point on I will support the Blazers, the coaches and front office wholeheartedly, offering praise and criticism appropriate to the matter at hand. I will never again be "that guy".
Blazeaddict
2/9/2009
by blazeraddict on Feb 17, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Can Bayless reach VC's throat
With those itty-bitty arms?
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Feb 17, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
As crazy as that trade sounds
Common guys….its Vince Freaking Carter. If he wants to win a ring and buys into the team idea, he could be awesome.
Karma
I don't see why Nate can't get J-Bay some run....
Position: Player (Minutes)
PG: Blake (20) / Sergio (20) / Bayless (8)
SG: Roy (14) / Rudy (28) / Bayless (6)
SF: Batum (24) / Roy (24)
PF: Aldridge (20) / Outlaw (28)
C: Przy (30) / Aldridge (18)
Bayless minutes >>> Frye minutes
Speculation?
Nate said that the team will return to its old rotation, meaning Blake starts, Sergio backs him up and Jerryd is squeezed out. Asked if leaving Bayless out of the rotation was “harsh,” Nate admitted it was but said it would be harsh if Sergio was left out too. Commence your second-guessing and trade speculating… now.
If you’re implying that Bayless being on the bench has something to do with him possibly being in a trade, that means only one thing… well maybe three. Chris Bosh, Tayshaun Prince + Jason Maxiell, Amare Stoudemire, Shane Battier + Carl Landry/Luis Scola, Baron Davis + Clippers Lottery Pick,
Trade speculation: most media members admit to not having a freaking clue what is going to happen. The consensus remains that KP will move RLEC; more and more speculation thinks it will be in a big move. The consensus take on the Chandler deal was that it sets a baseline of expectations for what expiring contracts are worth in this economy, meaning RLEC should bring a primo return. Multiple media members said they would be disappointed if RLEC was not dealt.
RLEC is how you make one of those possibilities come true. If two medium sized expiring contracts that don’t pay the team money gets you Tyson Chandler, we’ve been undervaluing RLEC’s true worth.
I know this wasn’t meant for speculation, but I see some mighty attractive options that might be coming our way in the next few days. All this said, if we don’t get one of those types of packages, I’m not down for any Bayless trade.
The opposite may be true too -
Play Sergio Wednesday and see if the deals sweeten up by Thursday…. KP will not trade Bayless. If he does, I will ban myself from this site until April 1st. This would be one of the dumbest moves. Trade Jack in the offseason to get bayless in the draft, and then trade bayless??
by hotstuffdb22 on Feb 18, 2009 7:05 AM PST up reply actions
I disagree if its the main ingredient that gets us one of these packages...
Chris Bosh, Tayshaun Prince + Jason Maxiell, Amare Stoudemire, Shane Battier + Carl Landry/Luis Scola, Baron Davis + Clippers Lottery Pick
Thanks for sharing your exchange with Nate about the ASU - USC game
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
Those Pac-10 refs blew that call!
I was freaking livid myself and almost threw my shoe at the flatscreen.
Still trying to figure out the C value paradox...
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Feb 18, 2009 9:32 AM PST reply actions
B L O C K I N G ! ! !
Your son just took a huge (albeit questionable) charge at the end of a relatively important Pac-10 game.
The cilantro in your tapioca pudding since 2007.™
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