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Greg Oden is Day to Day

Here's the Press Release from the Blazers regarding Oden sitting out the Rookie/Sophomore game.

I sent some communications to a team source to see if we could get confirmation on Greg playing Wednesday.  Nothing concrete for you on that other than he did practice today.

ODEN WILL NOT PLAY IN 2009 ROOKIE-SOPHOMORE GAME

PORTLAND, Ore. - Portland Trail Blazers rookie Greg Oden will not play in the 2009 T-Mobile Rookie Challenge & Youth Jam this evening after experiencing discomfort in his left (non operative) knee.

Oden underwent a precautionary MRI today, which revealed some swelling and a chip fracture of the patella.

Oden, who practiced with the Rookie Team today, felt some discomfort after bumping knees with the Warriors' Corey Maggette in the fourth quarter of last night's game at Golden State.

He is listed as day-to-day and will be reevaluated upon return to Portland.

Update: Geoffrey C. Arnold has the following update.

"I woke up ... and it was swollen. I banged knees with (Golden State guard) Corey Maggette (Thursday) night," Oden said. "I really wanted to be out there playing. I'm a little disappointed, but I'd rather be out playing in the regular season."

Oden was introduced before the game but did not play.

Oden, who missed all of last season after being the No. 1 pick in the 2007 NBA draft, has been hampered by injuries during his short career. But this one does not appear serious. He is listed as day to day.

During the Rookie/Sophomore game Craig Sager interviewed Greg Oden. Greg was smiling and seemed to be in pretty good spirits.

Sager: "What's the extent of the injury and how disapppointed are you?"

"I'm very disappointed but I know I'll come back soon.  It's just one of those things where I don't want to try it out.  It's supposed to be fine and I don't want to injure it any more than it is.

Sager: "Blather, blather, blather... How disappointing is this?"

It's very disappointing. Someone told me earlier today that I have great timing with my injuries. Right before my rookie season, right in the first game in the Lakers stadium, and then now, right before the all star game, It's always the big games when something happens to me.

Sager: "Blather, blather, blather... are you going to be alright?"

I'm pretty sure it's going to be all right.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Isn’t the patella or whatever the same part of the kneecap involved in the microfracture? Breathe

by Griff on Feb 13, 2009 5:53 PM PST reply actions  

The patella

Is the actual cap of the knee cap. I always thought the microfracture involved the leg bones.

"It all depends on where his growth will come and we think his growth will come within us" -- Kevin Pritchard on Jerryd Bayless

by Jumbo on Feb 13, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

For what its worth

a little bit about patella / knee cap injuries – http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/patelladisorders/a/kneecap.htm

FTA – “While surgery is seldom needed because of a kneecap problem, arthroscopy is a treatment option if the problem is not getting any better with conservative treatment.”

A more extensive page, with Non Operative Rx & Operative Treatment Options…
http://www.wheelessonline.com/ortho/fractures_of_the_patella

/ crossing fingers
// holding breath

by SuperMilk on Feb 13, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Just playin...

The big guy will be fine…he could probably use the rest, honestly. And, as the report says, he practiced - must have decided it best not to play.

by Griff on Feb 13, 2009 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

oh man this is not good

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Feb 13, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions  

It's the non operative knee

The knee wasn’t hyper-extended. Calm down.

ROTUNDITYDOTNET

Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.

by damir on Feb 13, 2009 6:05 PM PST reply actions  

I'm no expert

but I think he would need some kind of minor surgery to remove a chip of bone that has been dislodged.

"Cathartic? I didn't go to college, I don't know what cathartic means."
Kobe Bryant

by kono on Feb 13, 2009 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

did you stay at a holiday inn?

Yes on Proposition #9 (RLEC must go!!!!)

by broyposse on Feb 13, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Uh no.

I had a chip fracture of my knee cap when I was a wrestler in college, and it’s a little painful, but the bone will fuse back together pretty quickly.

This is nothing.

by nikolokolus on Feb 13, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

somebody get that boy some milk

Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Feb 13, 2009 6:11 PM PST reply actions  

it duz a body good

Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Feb 13, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Funnily enough

milk ROBS your bones of calcium. The difficult to digest animal fats require calcium for your body to process. More calcium then you get from milk. In older women especially it is dangerous to drink milk. A far better source of calcium is dark green vegetables such as Kale and Spinach.

I eat meat in case you are wondering but I don’t eat dairy.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

correct...or+1

I use MicrCrystallineHyroxyApatite (MCHA) calcium to help – - – sometimes actual bone meal too

"..[Travis Outlaw] could jump, grab a rafter, eat a sandwich, and then dunk.."
tmundal 12/30/07

by LetsBlaze on Feb 13, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Yah not exactly

While green leafy vegetables have a lot of Calcium they also have a lot of Iron which reduces the efficacy of both. Dairy products are still a great way to get calcium for your body. And red meat is a great way to get Iron.

Green leafy vegetables are one of the best things you can eat because they have just about everything good for you. But as far as calcium and iron go they are not the best. Also green leafy vegetables do not have vitamin D which is addedd to milk to help your body absorb calcium. Now I know what you are going to say, if you just go out in the sun your body will make vitamin D on it’s own. That is true unless you live in Portland during the winter months. Since the milk companies started adding vitamin D to milk the number of cases of rickets (a bone dissorder) has decreased quite a bit.

I will leave you with this advice most everything is good in moderation and don’t get your nutritional advice from the homeless vegan on Hawthorne (he has an agenda).

This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Feb 13, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Also the best thing you can do to avoid osteoporosis in addition to good nutrition

Is resistance exercise, specifically weight lifting. Thats what builds the bond mass.

This is what Lucas would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0aPkIE2qK0

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Feb 13, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That's

cool I wasn’t aware of that benefit. Very nice.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

This is exzactly what I love about the BEdge

Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Feb 13, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure if you caught

that I DO eat meat. I actually eat a pretty varied diet. If anything I follow something akin to the “”http://www.dadamo.com/" target="new">Eat right for your type" diet. But honestly I don’t follow it to a T. I have found that it is spot on for me in regards to dairy. I have vastly fewer sinus infections, extreme mucous and digestive problems then when I ate dairy. For me the difference is stark. If I eat dairy now I get sick.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Cursed

I think in the future, the Blazers should acquire all centers via free agency, and NEVER with a lottery pick.

But being honest is all I do well.....

by SuperDave on Feb 13, 2009 6:23 PM PST reply actions  

I guess you must mean "hear hear". Wrong in any case.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Feb 13, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

#1 enemy of the Blazers

Corey Flopgette

The cake is a lie. Do not bake it.

by blzrfan on Feb 13, 2009 6:25 PM PST reply actions  

The Geoffrey Arnold post....

makes it look like it’s not a big deal. I can’t find much on the internet. I did find this, don’t know if it’s applicable:

You can play through a chip fracture as long as the structural integrity of the bone isn’t compromised, including Avulsion fractures (where a piece of bone tears off because of damage to or stress upon ligaments or tendons) and Segond fractures (a “chip fracture” to the bones of the knee, both anterior and posterior), but the key is getting swelling down and giving the joint and muscles surrounding it rest.

by JasonT on Feb 13, 2009 6:29 PM PST reply actions  

Segond opinion

I looked up Segond fractures in a textbook I have. It’s a tibial fracture, not patellar. And avulsion fractures are exactly as described, where the tendon is strong enough to pull a part of the bone away rather than snap itself. Neither sounds like Oden’s chip fracture.

I didn’t see anything specifically on patellar chip fractures, which makes me think it’s not a big deal.

by ofred on Feb 13, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not a big deal

people are just freaking out. I was worried when he came out last night. Now that he’s had an MRI I’m fine.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

DOOOOOOOOM AND GLOOOOOM!!!!1

The end is in the beginning and yet I go on....
-Beckett

by eyeotiger on Feb 13, 2009 6:35 PM PST reply actions  

Greg needs a Darth Vader suit

It would mean he has mechanical knees and lungs so he wouldn’t need to worry about his lower body or conditioning. Force powers would be sweet too…they would keep him out of foul trouble

"Cathartic? I didn't go to college, I don't know what cathartic means."
Kobe Bryant

by kono on Feb 13, 2009 6:47 PM PST reply actions  

In a way I'm glad

I’m pretty sure this is a very minor thing. I would rather he sit out the dangerous and stupid Rookie/Soph game. I held my breath all last year with LMA and Roy playing. I repeat this isn’t a big deal. Oden was just interviewed and didn’t seem worried. He said “I’d like to play today but I’d rather play in regular season games”.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

Jeez

Even though it sounds minor, Greg is becoming somewhat of a glassman.

by Stryder9 on Feb 13, 2009 7:00 PM PST reply actions  

yeah I'm sure

you would have held up great bumping knee caps with Magette. Glassman? Come on.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember

the bump. It didn’t seem too extreme. A run of the mill type of hit that occurs often in many games. Glassman may be an exaggeration, but seriously, I’m worried about Oden’s longevity.

by Stryder9 on Feb 13, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Longevity

concerns all of us. To be honest I’m just as worried about Roy. That’s why Norkstroll I mean KP has to pull the trigger before the 19th. We need more firepower and to consolidate. Tis written in the stars!

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm

worried about Roy too. He definitely could use some help. Remember Drexler? Didn’t practice hard much, but man, he was strong as a bull!

by Stryder9 on Feb 13, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Maggette flop after that knee-to-knee collision?

He flopped every other time a Blazer came near him.

Open invitation: all you who are self-proclaimed ping pong experts. If you think you can beat me - or if you just want to see how it's really played: cdd37@yahoo.com. This means you, too, Jerryd.

by TTRocks on Feb 13, 2009 7:00 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Oh yeah

he came back in after that right?

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Also shouldn't you

be on your blackberry getting us Bosh or something?

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

get better Greg Oden *wink wink* *nudge nudge*

maybe soon the league will start showing you the respect you deserve. you scratch my back ill scratch yours!

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Feb 13, 2009 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

It would sure be nice

if they started giving him some calls. You think Sager was hinting that things were going to get better on that front?

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I Lawled

and then hated myself for it.

Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Feb 13, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

whoa

just trying to make light of what is probably nothing – and to see if anyone got the reference…which you did. nice work.

by Griff on Feb 13, 2009 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

I unflagged it

thought you were a troll sorry.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the reasons I didn't want to draft Oden

was because I feared he was injury prone (among a few others). This is no indication of that whatsoever. He chipped his kneecap by banging it against a hard object (another kneecap). Big deal! Sure, if the chip is in the knee and floating around causing irritation and inflammation, it may have to be sucked out, but that is nothing compared with torn ACL’s, knee arthritis, deterioration etc. This is I’m certain a minor issue.

I’ve actually been very relieved this year to see him play so far into the season without any major injury occurring. This incident does nothing to change my optimism.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

by TwoDeep on Feb 13, 2009 9:52 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

I have to completely

agree. I shudder to think of what that same hit would have done to Brandon or say Kevin Durant. Brandon is pretty meaty but a guy built like Magette has a lot of force behind his movements.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this obviously sucks

but it could have been worse look at Bynum and Kobe. I actually had to console my friend who happens to be a L@ker fan (Believe me it is a strain on our relationship) that day when the news came back about Bynum missing the rest of the season.

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Feb 13, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow!

I had to console my friend too. He was distraught – he sent me a text message right after it happened. “bynum down again knee injured against memphis.. again :/ sigh”.

by TSE on Feb 13, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Nicely said TwoDeep

I know you’ve worried about Oden’s potential to be injury prone for a long time now, so I like what you wrote.

Everyone else— Guys, injuries caused by normal means are nothing to get worried about. Knees bang, bones get chipped, and NBA players bang bones and get swollen from it all the time. Haven’t you seen someone bang knees and be all limpy on it for a while?

A chipped bone is not a sign of fragility or the feared pseudo-diagnosis of “injury prone”.

He has played day in day out and had no breakdowns of his body like many feared (fears overblown by his freak or in-game injuries that would happen to any player and his extra skin folds on his face, which give the appearance of someone older than his 21 years). His body hasn’t rebeled against him, like a Yao or a Bowie, and there have been no indications otherwise. He’s been a normal athlete returning from a lengthy rehab caused by surgery— and he hasn’t had anything go wrong or extra painful with his knee, which is EXTREMELY encouraging considering every single other player in the NBA who has had micro suffered a fair amount of pain and swelling for the first year back. Oden hasn’t had this.

Players get minor surgery, minor bumps and bruises every year, often numerous times a season. It happens during 82 games plus the playoffs. This is no big deal.

Worse case scenario, he plays with it hurting a bit. The pain will build character, get his adrenaline pumping, and make him a better player. The timing sucks since this is the national stage… but c’mon, do you really give a damn about the Rookie game? It’s nice, but superfluous, and I’d rather Oden just rest anyways. Same for Rudy (who has been really tired for the last few MONTHS now… which makes me think he’ll have a pretty good season next year once he is used to this tough schedule the NBA cooks up for its teams).

Now Oden can rest, be refreshed, and poor Rudy has had to play 3 games in 3 nights and then on the 4th consecutive night do a damn dunk contest. That isn’t good for the 2nd half of the season.

Maybe Rudy can bump his knee also and get 5 days off, cause he needs it.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Feb 13, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

I bet you're quoting Mom on the health issues. Good old Mom.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Feb 13, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Thank you.

this has been a message from: "The People's Alliance to give Greg Oden at least a couple of seasons."

by bforsythe on Feb 14, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions  

a picture of greg fits nicely in any thread on this site

THIS… IS… BEDGE!!!!!!!!!

Man, we should forfeit before roy’s hammy explodes, knocking him into LMA’s ear who loses his balance and hits Greg’s knee… - HurraKane212

http://www.nba.com/news/miles_10_080919.html

by maid tu rek on Feb 13, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

What is UP with those purple shoes?!

The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.

Kings fan

by dyshooter182 on Feb 14, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Not concerned

It’s exactly the storyline the press is looking for but I think they’ll be disappointed when he comes back to play wednesday.

I couldn’t have hated Craig Sager more in that “interview”. I can just hear the producers in his earpiece “Try and make him cry, it’ll be huge ratings”

Life is hilarious.

by SolGoode on Feb 14, 2009 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

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