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Game 23 Preview: Blazers vs. Pacers

Game Time:  4:00 Pacific  TV:  Comcast

So now...the Blazers walk into Conseco Fieldhouse down Rudy Fernandez, Travis Outlaw, Nicolas Batum, and of course Greg Oden.  That's two starters (the best defenders in the starting lineup by far) and the top two bench scorers (who, by the way, often score more than the starters).  They face the Pacers who are now down Danny Granger, the guy who has lead the team in scoring in 14 of the 17 games in which he has played, basically their only reliable point producer.  This is a little like going to a concert featuring the Rolling Stones minus Mick Jagger with opening act The Dave Matthews Band minus everybody but Dave Matthews plus special guest Britney Spears minus her boobs.  Suffice it to say it's not going to be on many people's "must watch" list tonight.  But we're all groupies who appreciate the finer points of the show even when the public-pleasing guys are absent so let's dive into this.

It could get ugly.

Don't worry Pacers fans.  That's not a threat.  Nor is it an intimation that the Blazers are going to maul you.  Really, seriously, this could be an ugly, ugly game.  Our only real hope is if both teams abandon defense entirely and just let each other run up and down the court, playing rock-paper-scissors at halftime to see who gets the last dunk.  Should anyone try to play defense (don't hurt yourselves there guys) or worse, slow down the tempo... shudder.  The Pacers are a high-pace-oriented team.  They're second in the league right now in fact.  The Blazers are dead last.  The book says Portland should limit the tempo, forcing the Pacers to play in the halfcourt, especially with their prime scorer out.  I'm begging you, no.  Run, Blazers!  Run like the wind!  I can't imagine seeing Dahntay Jones, Brandon Rush, Earl Watson, Mike Dunleavy, and Jeff Foster attempting to score in a plodding game.  Dr. James Naismith would have burnt the peach basket if he had been forced to endure that.  I'll risk a loss.  Just don't affront my eyeballs like that.

But then who am I kidding?  Watching Steve Blake on the dribble, Andre Miller shoot jumpers, Martell Webster shoot anything, Joel Przybilla try to catch the ball...oh man, I am trying so hard to talk myself out of watching this game.  Focus, Dave.  Focus.

OK...the Pacers do have players who cause Portland trouble.  Troy Murphy seems to have an attitude when facing us.  He's one of those good face-up power forwards with range out to the arc and a rebounding streak in him.  We're not strong against them.  T.J. Ford and Earl Watson have also given the Blazers fits in the past because they're quick.  Guys like Dunleavy and Rush aren't great performers but they can get streaky especially when left alone.  Roy Hibbert, Tyler Hansbrough, and Jeff Foster lunchbucket the middle.  Dahntay Jones, their second-leading scorer, went for 21 against the Warriors and 16 against the Kings.  Of course he followed that up with 4 against the Jazz and 6 against the Clippers.  Oy.  This could get ugly.

Despite having blue-collar guys on the roster the Pacers get outrebounded a lot.  If they're getting offensive rebounds you're doing something wrong.  They score very little in the paint and generally don't have people in position to grab them.  They're mediocre on the defensive boards as well.   They depend on fastbreak points to keep them afloat.  In the halfcourt they rely heavily on the jumper which often doesn't fall.  They take a lot of threes and miss 70% of them.  Their defense isn't bad but it's nothing to write home about.  They foul a lot.  Long story short they don't do enough things well to beat the Blazers under normal circumstances.

Of course the circumstances aren't normal.  Besides the injuries Portland has looked confused, lethargic, at times incoherent recently.  Anybody could beat a Blazer team looking like that and a couple of "anybodys" have.  Give them a sniff of an easy game and the Pacers will be happy to take it.  They've beaten six teams this year.  One of those was Boston.  Of course five of those wins came in the same week.  And they were a long time ago.  And every one of them featured Danny Granger.  But the Blazers just lost to the Knicks.  And their offense is so predictable it could be a Jay Leno joke.  And here I go talking myself out of watching this again.  Better move on...

Pivotal Points of the Game

1.  Just play with energy, please?  Any team featuring Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge should still be able to beat a Granger-less Pacers squad.  Just don't make it one of those nights when anyone will beat you!

2.  Defense is all about the mid-range.  If they're hitting threes or scoring at the rim you were really negligent.

3.  And in that vein, show me a guy you have to double-team on their side.  Maybe you watch carefully to make sure those point guards aren't zipping past yours.  But really, other than one simple rotation to cut off the middle in case of penetration you should just be able to guard your own man tonight.  No fancy rotations.  No swooping in and trying to recover.  Don't treat them like they're an All-Star team offensively and thereby leave guys wide open.

4.  Do get back in transition.

5.  Their interior defense is pretty decent but they have some cream puffs on the wings.  Move the ball and take advantage of the short jumper and not just the three-ball.

6.  Rebounds should be to the Blazers what waitresses are to Tiger Woods tonight.  Go get ‘em, Tig...uhhhh...Blazers.

Final Thoughts and Links

Losing this game would be a bad idea.

Check out the fun with our old friends at IndyCornrows.com.  Seriously, these are some of the guys we came up with so click over and pay your respects if you're of a mind to.

You can enter tonight's Jersey Contest form here.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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I'm working on my game...

…open tryouts are just around the corner.

by Dobbler on Dec 9, 2009 12:15 AM PST reply actions  

me too!

I’m 38 but I can still run the court….half court anyway…once or twice…once is better than twice…I’m old!

#52. Get well soon.

by Eat Politicians on Dec 9, 2009 12:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait till you hit fifty

I am fifty one and feel like my warranty expired when I hit fifty. I am dealing with chronic ligament problems in my knees; chronic compression problems in my back; and carpel-tunnel problems in my wrists and hands. As my eighty one year old mother says, “getting old isn’t for sissies.”

Its funny because I have always been fit and healthy, kept my weight under reasonable control, and worked hard. Too many years of hard work seem to catch up to you eventually.

by upper left corner on Dec 9, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll concur.

But it still is preferrable to the alternative.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 9, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

fifty-four

Happy to play basketball as long as running and jumping are illegal. – Elgin

Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers

by 22baylor on Dec 9, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

OT

Dave, any update on the tickets for kids? It’s been about a month, I think.

#52

by jscot on Dec 9, 2009 12:37 AM PST reply actions  

Yes sir

Funny you asked, as it was supposed to go up today. It’ll have to wait one more day though. Still compiling numbers with the team.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Great write up.

But Portland should be able to beat Indy without Granger pretty easily.

by Xiane on Dec 9, 2009 1:05 AM PST reply actions  

Unfortunately, we then just have to play someone else, and still look forward to this ...
Watching Steve Blake on the dribble, Andre Miller shoot jumpers, Martell Webster shoot anything, Joel Przybilla try to catch the ball…oh man, I am trying so hard to talk myself out of watching this game.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 9, 2009 1:30 AM PST up reply actions  

As beat up as the Blazers are we should get this win easily

They lost their only great scorer Danny Granger. I think the blazers will win this game easily as long as they get back on D and stop fast breaks. They should have a horrible time in the half court offense. We may have a lot of injuries but we still have our two main horses Roy and Aldridge.

So will this be a low scoring game where the least bad team wins? Or will points somehow manage to find their way onto the board?

by SteveBlakeFan on Dec 9, 2009 1:46 AM PST up reply actions  

overconfidence

is always the best way to lose a game. I’m hopeful Dean D isn’t preparing the Trail Blazers with that kind of inspiration. You can’t take any team lightly or for granted.

Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.

by bow4meow on Dec 9, 2009 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

But what the Blazers should be able to do and what they actually have been doing have been two different things lately. So I’m not counting chickens. This would be a poor loss though.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 9, 2009 1:48 AM PST up reply actions  

nothing taken for granted anymore

team is out of sync…not that you can blame them with all of the out of sync-inatingness that has been happening. But consistent is not a word I would use at this junction. Hope for the best, expect the worst.

#52. Get well soon.

by Eat Politicians on Dec 9, 2009 1:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Make it worth watching by starting Bayless!

They need a diffent look right now. They need to break out of the funk that they are in on offence.

2-4 the who

by 24thewho on Dec 9, 2009 7:22 AM PST reply actions  

I saw that

I have new respect for Dave.

Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.

by bow4meow on Dec 9, 2009 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Seeing Outside the Box

"Pickin' up the pieces of my sweet shattered dream, I wonder how the old folks are tonight."

by RandyinParadise on Dec 9, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, if you are going to put it that way ...

… I’ll take looking inside the box almost anyday over looking at boobs.

But maybe not Brittney’s. Not sure she has anything I want to see.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 9, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm begging the Trail Blazers to stop running the 3 guard offense... BEGGING

I suppose maybe in short stints with Bayless, but the Blake-Miller combination is not working. Either Blake is not passing the ball, Miller is left wide open to clank shots or a lack of inside presence is allowing teams to get offensive rebounds and put-backs.

The only exception to this would be when using Bayless, but even then not for extended minutes or as part of the team’s basic game plan. Blake and Miller together isn’t working.

Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.

by bow4meow on Dec 9, 2009 8:16 AM PST reply actions  

They are short of people to play small forward

so I imagine Roy and two other guards will serve some hard time in that lineup.

I’d really like to see Webster getting huge minutes while Batum is out, though. – Elgin

Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers

by 22baylor on Dec 9, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Blake, Bayless, and Miller aren't working no matter how you slice it

When one is on the court, it’s not working. Two is twice as bad. I’ve heard people say we can’t make a trade that sacrifices the future for the present. I agree, but we should make a trade that sacrifices the present for the future. Now that this season is wrecked, we should fix our pg situation for the future. We need a starting pg for 2010 and forward, and I don’t think any of these three will work for that.

by desperationshot on Dec 9, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless you slice it by looking at the numbers.

Those tell you it has worked.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 9, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

As a fan of slow-paced basketball, I'd like to see a knock-down, drag-out slugfest. That'd be good times.

Now, even though Portland plays at a methodical tempo, everyone except for Joel Przybilla is soft as Charmin.

At this point, the entire Trail Blazer roster needs to knock off their limp, listless play and turn tonight’s game into a ‘90s era donnybrook like you’d see when New York took on Miami.

Dear Paul Allen:

Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Dec 9, 2009 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

That's true, but the "soft" insult was more geared toward Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. I ...

also don’t consider Martell Webster or Steve Blake soft, because Webster is just slow-footed and Blake is relatively unathletic overall. Jerryd Bayless isn’t soft, either, but rather very inept with regards how to play smart, intelligent defense that avoids stupid hand checking and touch fouls along the perimeter.

Dear Paul Allen:

Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Dec 9, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you watch the Utah-San Antonio game?

I enjoyed that despite slow pace immensely, was like a throwback game. At least to a few years ago. But both teams actually had their stars and a game plan and some offensive sets.

by Norsktroll on Dec 9, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

great post,Dave

Too funny.i love your sense of humor

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 9, 2009 9:01 AM PST reply actions  

Pacers get outrebounded a lot. If they’re getting offensive rebounds you’re doing something wrong

Keep an eye on Jeff Foster, he has had big reboundng games against Portland in the past

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 9, 2009 9:16 AM PST reply actions  

Comedic gold with the concert joke, Dave

If only the Blazers were half — nay, a quarter — as entertaining as your pregame and postgame writeups.

"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview

by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2009 9:16 AM PST reply actions  

Let's step it up

last game was as entertaing as George Bush doing lip sync.

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 9, 2009 9:32 AM PST reply actions  

which one?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 9, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll be at the game, which would make it relatively easy to see someone sitting at half court in red … surrounded by fans who just got off work and are not wearing anything related to the Pacers. I’ll try to upload some crappy cell pics later. Go Blazers!

by PTB Tested on Dec 9, 2009 9:50 AM PST reply actions  

This scares me:

They take a lot of threes and miss 70% of them.

Something similar was said about the Knicks and look what happened!

Let's do it for the big man!...and Rudy!....and Nic!...and, uh, Trout, Pendy, Patty, Mo, Mr. Allen, and Nate!

Rehab With Us

by clinchmobb on Dec 9, 2009 9:54 AM PST reply actions  

We are like the three-point fairies

bestowing magically good shooting on every team we visit.

—Dave

by Dave on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Is there any reciprocal to this?

I never here about how we absolutely excel at something we are very poor at against other teams or at least something that you can point to as the difference in the game (such as the Knicks three point shooting and had they shot their average, they would of lost). I guess I am waiting for us to fast break a team to death, or play excellent perimeter defense, or something like that…

Let's do it for the big man!...and Rudy!....and Nic!...and, uh, Trout, Pendy, Patty, Mo, Mr. Allen, and Nate!

Rehab With Us

by clinchmobb on Dec 9, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

being nice doesn't win games

Let's do it for the big man!...and Rudy!....and Nic!...and, uh, Trout, Pendy, Patty, Mo, Mr. Allen, and Nate!

Rehab With Us

by clinchmobb on Dec 9, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The T-Wolves

made the Blazers pick and roll defense look adaquate.

by Pooh Richardson on Dec 9, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully

we are not the rebounding fairies,too

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 9, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

bestowing magically good shooting on every team

Last year, Portland led the league in opponent’s free throw shooting percentage

If you’ve got to lead the league in some “negative” category, that would be the one

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 9, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

please god play bayless.

Only way I watch tonight. When he left the knicks game I tuned out. I am not a homer and realize he has problems in his game but lately he has been all that’s worth watching since greg went down. I hope with minutes he can improve and be a bright spot for this team, god knows we haven’t had a lot of that thbus far.

by jcoop85 on Dec 9, 2009 9:59 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

YES...Please play Bayless

Blake is a big part of the reason that they get down by 15 so early. He NEVER gets to the line and his shot is so off that he just won’t take the open looks anymore. At least Bayless does get to the line and he creates havoc off the dribble.

2-4 the who

by 24thewho on Dec 9, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

It's not God who you should be praying to.

Unless you are a member of Church of Nate. I’m not even sure God can help you at this point.

Most likely, Bayless won’t get steady PT unless Blake goes down. While we cannot afford to lose anyone at this point to injury, I don’t think I’ll be out on a ledge screaming bloody heck if Blake goes down since at least I’d have some B-Rex rampage to look forward to.

by xedubx on Dec 9, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

With Rudy out and Webster the only SF ...

… what makes you think Bayless isn’t going to get minutes?

Throw in the fact that Miller may be feeling the effect of rolling his ankles a few games ago more than he is letting on and the odds for Jerryd’s playing time increasing are looking better than ever.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 9, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

nba

I moved to Portland area last year and became a Blazer fan after having lost track of them for 20 years or so.

Now it is hard to stay enthusiastic.

But I sort of enjoy basketball. I have decided to start enjoying teams other than just the Blazers.

For exmample, watched the Cleveland Memphis game and was impressed with what a scrappy performance the Grizzlies showed. I might be a bit lukewarm about a team with Zach Randolph if I had been around during the jailblazer era but I wasn’t.

So am going to start having favorite teams and I think Memphis will be one I will start rooting for.

The thing that really stuck out: They played inspired basketball. When was the last time you could say that about the Blazers? Maybe the bulls game.

Fact is the Blazers still have enough talent to make the playoffs but they have got to get their head together. Considering how much trouble they had just integrating one frigging new guy (Miller) into the lineup, I don’t hold a lot of hope that they will be able to quickly cope with the lineup changes caused by the recent injuries. And it looks like they will be in a transition mode for the forseeable future as players gradually trickle back into the lineup as their injuries heal.

Hope Pendergraph can give them a boost once he is back in. I’m not sure any backup center they could acquire would necessarily be any better prospect of helping the team than he would. Although, rookies usually take quite a while to get adjusted to NBA ball.

by lsjogren on Dec 9, 2009 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

The Grizzlies?

Darius Miles’s team? Really? – Elgin

PS. Zach Randolph’s team?

Really?? – Elgin

Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers

by 22baylor on Dec 9, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is it some of the team websites on SBNation get so little love from fans? I want over to Indiana’s site to read what fans are saying only to find 3 comments in one thread and 10 comments in another? Seriously? We have literally THOUSANDS of responses in our gameday threads alone. Is basketball that badly supported in Indiana?

"Sometimes that light at the end of the tunnel is a train."
-- Charles Barkley

by halo_on on Dec 9, 2009 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

HS and college, yes.

NBA, not so much…Well, there were some attention when the Pacers were winning.

by xedubx on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

high school and college

I suspect the Pacers are ’way down the list re: basketball conversation in Indy

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 9, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Greg Oden....

ughghgh… how to burn his memory from my database…. how do you continue on with this with that in your mind….

gooooo…. portland……. gooooo… blazers.. but I only feel about 50% about this right now… depleated I am, I’m running on fumes and dont know how we’re going to make it through this season….

I feel like…. 2002.

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!

by faith on Dec 9, 2009 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

2002

Pretty bleak times.

The basketball wasn’t so hot either. – Elgin

Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers

by 22baylor on Dec 9, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel more like 2007

Pretty much the same core team minus Oden, Rudy, Nic. Less fun, still should be a competitive team.

by Norsktroll on Dec 9, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

This sounds more like prediction than observation:
Don’t treat them like they’re an All-Star team offensively and thereby leave guys wide open.

I except to see at least a couple of Pacers have their best games of the year, at least shooting, because the Blazers won’t bother to guard them. We’re in the habit of making good players look great.

by Corwin71 on Dec 9, 2009 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

I'm where Dave is....

I’m torn between watching what I fear will be another listless, ugly game and possibly missing a gutsy effort that would make me feel better about the team again.

by Corwin71 on Dec 9, 2009 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

the key is rebounding

neither team is very good at it and this is a game where there should be a lot of missed shots. tj ford should run circles around blake. foster always kills us. dahntay jones gave brandon trouble when he played for denver. i feel sick.

cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll

by staceyaugmon4HOF on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

Clearly the keys to this game are:

1. Scrappiness
2. Both units over there hustling and getting into their sets
3. Blake spacing the court and making scrappy plays over here

by Pooh Richardson on Dec 9, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

You forgot

4. Hitting our shots. The shots are there we just gotta hit them.

by Corwin71 on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

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