Update: Rudy Fernandez Will Miss 4-6 Weeks After Microdiscectomy to Relieve Back/Leg Pain
by Ben Golliver on Dec 8, 2009 11:14 AM PST
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Portland Trail Blazers General Manager Kevin Pritchard conducted an interview with John Canzano on 95.5FM this afternoon. Here are some quotes from the interview. Podcasts for Canzano's show can be found here.
"I've been through some tough times. We all have. I believe this is where your character comes out."
"[All of these injuries} has been something I've never quite been a part of. This organization has a lot of great people. We want to continually work hard at what we do... we want to come out better on the other side. We have some injuries but it's not the end of the world. Our hearts go out to Mr. Allen and Maurice Lucas every day more than anything... I want this to cement our team and get them closer together. I want our guys to overachieve, play our tails off."
"The one thing I know for sure is that this is a predatory league. One thing people will try to do is look at our roster and say what can we get off of it. We're not going to sacrifice anything in the future for today. Does that mean a trade can't happen? It can happen."
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Are there trades out there right now?
"I don't have one right now. We don't have one."
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"Through the tough times, we stay calm waters.
"Jerryd Bayless is coming in and playing well. Dante Cunningham is going to be coming in more. We're going to have to overachieve."
"There's no quick-fixes in this business. There's not."
"We can go and look at trades, we can look at guys that have been bought out. We can look at guys over in Europe. We can look at guys in the D-League. Mike Born, who is in charge of NBA scouting, has done an incredible job of being ready."
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Are the playoffs a goal?
"It would be huge and a complete testament to the character of this team. And we've challenged them with that."
"Brandon put the team on his back against Houston. We're going to need that a lot. Him and LaMarcus."
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Who needs to step up?
"The one I'm most excited about is Jerryd... he's absolutely obsessive with his workouts. I have a lot of faith in him because he's prepared himself."
"Dante is a bunch of energy and he makes a lot of hustle plays. That's what we need.'
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Has Jerryd Bayless asked you for a trade?
"Never. Not one time has he asked for a trade."
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"We really miss Nic Batum... What he was able to do as a 19 year old last year... We need a wing defender to guard the Kobes and the LeBrons... we probably miss him more than anything."
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Update (3:03PM): Here's the full press release...
RUDY FERNANDEZ UNDERGOES SUCCESSFUL PROCEDURE
Second-year Spaniard will be sidelined 4-6 weeks
PORTLAND, Ore. - Portland Trail Blazers guard/forward Rudy Fernandez underwent a successful microdiscectomy Tuesday to alleviate pain in his right leg, General Manager Kevin Pritchard announced today.
Fernandez, 24, will miss 4-6 weeks as a result of the procedure, which relieved pressure from a nerve root in his lower back that caused pain in his right leg.
"The procedure was successful and we can now turn our attention to getting Rudy healthy and back on the court," said Pritchard. "He's been under a lot of pain and we look forward to Rudy returning healthier than ever."
Dr. George Shanno performed the procedure at Southwest Washington Regional Surgery Center in Vancouver, Wash.
Fernandez appeared in Portland's first 20 games this season, averaging 8.6 points, 2.7 rebounds, 2.2 assists and 23.3 minutes. He leads the Trail Blazers and ranks among NBA leaders with 1.55 steals per game.
The Palma de Mallorca, Spain, native leads team qualifiers with a 38.8 percent (31-for-80) mark from three-point range. Fernandez's 159 three-pointers last season set an NBA rookie record.
Update (2:49PM): The Blazers report via text message...
Rudy Fernandez will be sidelined 4-6 weeks after microdiscectomy today to relieve leg pain caused by a nerve root in lower back.
Update (1:02PM): Dr. Rich Edelson of Sports Medicine Oregon told Wheels at Work on 95.5FM...
"[Rudy Fernandez] can get going right away on conditioning... he can do some things pretty quickly. He can swim, it's more the impact of running and jumping [that might take longer]."
From the Blazers...
PORTLAND, Ore. - Portland Trail Blazers guard/forward Rudy Fernandez will undergo a procedure today to alleviate pain in his right leg, General Manager Kevin Pritchard announced Tuesday.
Fernandez, 24, will undergo a microdiscectomy to relieve pressure from a nerve root in his lower back that is causing pain in his right leg.
Dr. George Shanno will perform the procedure at Southwest Washington Regional Surgery Center in Vancouver, Wash.
A timetable for his return will be determined after the procedure.
More details on this in about 7 years. I just need to get my MD degree and then I'll be back to explain this. Seriously, more details to come shortly.
Update (11:24AM): Here is some information from Dr. Peter F. Ullrich, Jr., MD on Spine-Health.com regarding microdiscectomy surgery that seems to align well with the Blazers' statement.
In a microdiscectomy or microdecompression spine surgery, a small portion of the bone over the nerve root and/or disc material from under the nerve root is removed to relieve neural impingement and provide more room for the nerve to heal.A microdiscectomy is typically performed for a herniated lumbar disc and is actually more effective for treating leg pain (also known as radiculopathy) than lower back pain.
Impingement on the nerve root (compression) can cause substantial leg pain. While it may take weeks or months for the nerve root to fully heal and any numbness or weakness to get better, patients normally feel relief from leg pain almost immediately after a microdiscectomy spine surgery.
Please note this is general information and not necessarily applicable to Rudy Fernandez specifically.
Some spine surgeons restrict a patient from bending, lifting, or twisting for the first six weeks following surgery. However, since the patient's back is mechanically the same, it is also reasonable to return to a normal level of functioning immediately following this spine surgery.
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The success rate for microdiscectomy spine surgery is approximately 90% to 95%, although 5% to 10% of patients will develop a recurrent disc herniation at some point in the future.
Update (11:33AM):
Pakzaban has posted a video "demonstrating a lumbar microdiscectomy operation performed through a 2 cm incision on the back for treatment of a herniated lumbar disc." Enjoy.
Update (12:06PM): This is how you fail at twitter. KGW reporter Pat Dooris erroneously tweeted that Rudy Fernandez was done for the season. Minutes later, he retracted. Here's his official account.
Given the circumstances, an official apology from KGW to Rudy Fernandez, the Blazers and its fans is in order.
-- Ben Golliver | (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com) | Twitter
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http://www.spine-health.com/treatment/back-surgery/microdiscectomy-microdecompression-spine-surgery
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
Excellent video at this site
Very helpful video. Rudy should feel a lot of relief.
Oh good god.
This is a nightmare.
Rudy, I would gladly be your nurse.
Start Miller. Trade Steve Blake.
List of injuries.
Pendergraph (hip)
Mills (foot)
Outlaw (foot)
Batum (shoulder)
Oden (knee)
Rudy (back)
Me (heart)
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
by blzrfan on Dec 8, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions 15 recs
oh yeah and
Bayless (Coachdoesnotlikeme-tosis)
He's been getting some minutes
Nobody else is available.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
And Lucas (cancer)
And Allen (cancer)
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
this year is so the opposite of what I thought it would be
I’m so depressed about it I can’t even stomach watching games right now.
myspace.com/marktwainindians
You need a perspective adjustment. These are sporting events staged for entertainment.
by raoulduke on Dec 8, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
that's not cool man
just because it doesn’t mean as much to you doesn’t mean that yours necessarily the proper reference point.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Dec 8, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Who's to say how much [the Blazers games] mean to anybody.
The point is well-taken, however. Consider large-scale tragedies (Irag, New Orleans, etc.) and the truly difficult things people deal with everyday (e.g., Luke and PA having cancer). The worst thing, if you ask me, is parents suffering the loss of a child.
Let’s try to be thankful for what we have. That said, it’s understandable if some people don’t enjoy the games at this juncture. There are plenty of other things to do.
#52
by CatMan2 on Dec 8, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
yep
good summary
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Dec 8, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Good point. I probably overstated. I experience the highs and lows of following sports
and I should have accepted “depressed” as a figure of speech.
That you, Canzano?
:)
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Gosh
All I was saying is that it’s painful as a Blazer fan to go from the promise we had, to the dreadful play we’ve been having, to the season ending injuries. Obviously, there are bigger problems in life than crappy luck with my favorite sports team, but can’t I still be a little bummed out about it?
myspace.com/marktwainindians
Yes you can.
I am. I’m not going to stop watching them, but I’m depressed too.
Start Miller. Trade Steve Blake.
I'm not going to stop
It’s just going to be way less fun…. Honestly, for me, the season went down the crapper with Oden’s injury. I love Oden, for some reason he is my favorite Blazer ever and he’s barely accomplished anything yet.
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Some details.
In a microdiscectomy or microdecompression spine surgery, a small portion of the bone over the nerve root and/or disc material from under the nerve root is removed to relieve neural impingement and provide more room for the nerve to heal.
A microdiscectomy is typically performed for a herniated lumbar disc and is actually more effective for treating leg pain (also known as radiculopathy) than lower back pain.
Hopefully Rudy is ok.
i think he's out probably a min of 6-9 weeks
my colleague had the same surgery
godenposse will make it's triumvirate return 5.2.2010
you've got to be kidding me
My first thought is that being a Blazers help me learn a lot of medical terms
by iverigma2 on Dec 8, 2009 11:28 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
are you freakin kidding me?
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
now it's Bayless' time
really… there’s no excuse not to give Byaless consistent playing time now. We need a backup 2 and that’s considered as Bayless’ most suitable position given his style right now.
It's his time alright...
We just need to decide what type of surgery suits him the best. Maybe cosmetic? Elbow and wrist is still up for grabs, too.
by superfly05 on Dec 8, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Any surgery to lengthen the arms?
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
looks like
“let the bodies hit the floor” is the theme song for the season.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Dec 8, 2009 11:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
another one bites the dust
gallows humor
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Ben...why did you put that video on the front page?
Argh.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Um...
to whomever has the Trailblazer voodoo doll collection, please find something else to play with for a while. Thanks.
www.blazerguy.com
by Blazer Guy on Dec 8, 2009 11:37 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Nice
Maybe Bill Simmons has special powers
by upper left corner on Dec 8, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
who wins?
injured team vs non injured team
blake, roy, marty, la, joel vs mills, rudy, batum, outlaw, oden
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
The non-injured team.
Because they have Bayless coming off the bench.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
injured teams coach is mcmillian
non injured’s coach is dean
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
by thomasikehara on Dec 8, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
You wouldn't start Miller even on this squad????
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 8, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
i am just goin with what dean started
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
by thomasikehara on Dec 8, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
the noninjured could bring in miller or bayless for less sucking
the injured could bring in pendy for more size
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
by thomasikehara on Dec 8, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Word.
As grim as the situation looks right now, it’s giving Bayless his chance to shine. Bayless is/will be the perfect PG/SG compliment to Roy in the starting lineup going into the future. Think of it, 2 guards who will attack the basket with reckless abandon (if Roy starts doing that again)…
Wow.
They should change this season’s marketing slogan from “Rise With Us” to “Rehab With Us.”
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
by bfan on Dec 8, 2009 11:43 AM PST reply actions 14 recs
Seriously, though ...
I am ok with this being a lost season now. No team could withstand this. Make a trade, give the young guys some run, line it up for next year.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
Make a trade
with what? The trade drawer is locked shut and KP lost the combination
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
what, people are hurt, so dump 'em cheap for "new" ones ...
and let some other team invest in seing our talent heal and deliver.
After all, we don’t want anything to stop us in this promisiing championship year….
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
You are misreading.
I would love to trade Blake. This season is basically lost, so giving him minutes makes no sense whatsoever. I’d also like to trade Miller, since I feel he just doesn’t fit what we’re trying to do. I don’t see either of those guys starting for us on a championship team, so why drag it out? I think Outlaw is still tradeable because of his expiring contract. If the players (those who aren’t hurt) should play fast and loose because of all the injuries, then maybe our front office should too. No reason not to make a trade anymore.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
I agree completely about Blake/Miller
Gotta trade one,as timbo said, to save Nate and Dean from themselves. Blake is an addiction, apparently.
Can’t trade Trout. Impossible to ignore how the wheels started to fall off, for whatever reason, when Trout went down. He is the key bench scorer and locker room glue guy. And now he’s cheaper to sign.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Dec 8, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
can't trade guards for forwards, right now
Blazers only have 4 healthy guards, so all “guard-dealing” should be put on hold until either Mills or Rudy are on the court (NAB game ready)
like the Hoosiers coach once said “this is your team”
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
but we still want Jimmy
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
by DucRider on Dec 8, 2009 5:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Is it just me
or do George Karl and Gene Hackman look like they were separated at birth?
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
You mean George Karl and Hannibal Lector?
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
“And then I ate Kenyon’s liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti…”
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 9, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
ok, didn't mean to be too harsh on you...
Yeah, expectations for this season are now “developmental”..
I might get in trouble for saying it, but I find the lottery more interseting than a doomed playoff appearance (first round exit). But there are still other major players active who can use the experience. Just don’t have my heart set on the playoffs. The team is understandably disheartened now. They could come back with a vengeance yet. I don’t think KP will get too radical on the trading. Trading Blake because coach uses him too much seems a bit of a misdirected adjuistment as to the cause of the problem….. I just don’t know exactly what the “real” Miller “problem” is.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
The injury bug bites every franchise at some point
You just hope it doesn’t happen within your championship window. And the Blazers are at least a year away from that.
Of course, that doesn’t keep this season from being a major bummer. I waited thru what seemed an endless summer to finally see this team play. But really I never got to. From the time Batum went under the knife, the team has been diminished. Now it’s decimated.
Oh well: get it all out of the way at once, maybe?
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
Just photoshop Trav or Nic and Rudy's heads
Then it will get a rec.
Start Miller. Trade Steve Blake.
Awesome ....
except for I just threw up in my mouth a little.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
seriously
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
i just posted this on my twitter, @sophiabiabia
its so sad and so perfect . thx i cited u also btw.
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
A bit of history
During World War II, when many young men of professional sports age were off fighting the war, neither of the major pro football teams from Pennsylvania (the Steelers and the Eagles) had enough players to field a team.
So, for a year or two, they merged—and became the Steegles. (Or is it Steagles? I’m not sure).
Any chance we and the good folks at GSoM could petition the league to form the Portland State Blaziors? (Not to be confused with the uni?)
That way, GSoM fans can experience Nate, and we can experience Nellie—and both sides will come to appreciate what they have.
Something tells me were that to occur, Steve Blake would get more minutes than Monta Ellis.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 11:48 AM PST reply actions 8 recs
REC!
Very funny stuff, Scotty…
Best line:
Something tells me were that to occur, Steve Blake would get more minutes than Monta Ellis.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
The only problem would be that now two fan bases will start complaining about two young guys that doesn't get PT
Namely, Bayless and Randolph.
Me, I am all for it because I enjoy complaining.
Nate = push-me
Nellie = pull-you
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Great comment
Now THAT team would make the playoffs.
Maybe.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
Would the Blaziors run?
Or would Roy’s relentlessly controlled game—and Steve Blake’s horrific fast break decision-making— force even Nellie to play slow-ball?
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
like I said
pushme-pullyou
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
No no,
You don’t want to merge with the Warriors – you want to merge with the Rockets. Two bad injury situations – what Houston lacks in quantity, it makes up for with expense and quality. There’s really no position that isn’t very good if you do this, except center, but even that is ok with an offense/defense platoon.
The other excellent fit is the Kings. In some way that is the best fit – the Kings strengths are Portland’s current weakness, and vice-versa.
Portland really shouldn’t merge with a bunch of guys who never, ever, play D…
I think this is a terrible move
I have worked in the medical-legal field and have worked on a lot of cases where people have this back surgery. It is not always successful. Even if it is successful in relieving the pain, relief only lasts a finite period of time (i.e. 10 years). It is dangerous because you are operating on the spine. I personally believe you should never get this surgery unless you have tried absolutely everything possible to avoid it, up to and especially giving yourself at least a year of time to rest it and let the inflammation go down.
Regarding surgeons, they always want to do surgery. That is what they do, so you will often find one to recommend it. They make money off the surgeries and its just in their nature to take risks. I think this, along with Greg’s, Martells and Travis’s surgeries are all highly suspect. Much better to sit somebody out for a few months and let them heal naturally than do surgery. Surgery does as much harm as the initial injury itself, and makes full recovery an iffy prospect. I just don’t agree with jumping to surgery first every time.
So what you're saying...
is that doctors are all like crooked car mechanics, who will tell you ya need new brakes when you really don’t?
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
I'm sure they believe in what they're doing
Its just in their nature to do surgeries. Especially considering the benefits that come with doing a surgery on a professional athlete. It is great marketing.
I have seen so many people get this surgery and not get better. It seems like a huge risk to do it without first resting the back for a few months. My gosh.
I hear what you are saying, and agree surgery is not a guaranteed fix,
and it is good to try other treataments first. I had a totally trashed forth lumbar disc out many years ago, but I first went through months of physical therapy. It was hopeless, and was real bad, which made the desision easy for me. Fortunately I had a great doctor. Surgery was successsful, but I was never the same again, no more heavy weight lifting or maximum strain work. Life changing in that sense. They have made advances in methods over the years, and this procedure is FAR less invasive than the several inches incision I had. But discs themselvs don’t heal, like cartlidge, so really a bummer.
Also consider (the point made below) it can be real frustrating just “taking it easy” so it can slowly ease off. Especially when you have physical things you really want to do. These new microsurgical procedures are fascinating to me, and I can see how an athlete wants the pain to go away and be “normal” again. Resting on the couch is not too useful of a treatment, when as soon as you get active it just acts up again.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Professional athletes aren't usually the first to try the "wait and see" approach
Time is money, and these types of procedures go with the opportunity.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 8, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
medical/legal field?
I’m a 2L, president of my law school’s health law society, we should chat sometime.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Dec 8, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I think this, along with Greg’s, Martells and Travis’s surgeries are all highly suspect.
So Greg’s patella was going to migrate back together to heal on its own? Or he has super cartilage that would have healed itself sans microfracture?
I do believe that since surgery is what surgeons know, they may be more prone to suggesting that as a solution over viable alternatives. But there are times when surgery is pretty much the only legitimate option (not that I’m the person to make that determination).
The microfracture
How bad can his cartilage have been? He was 19 years old. I can’t imagine his knee would really be better off after that invasive of a procedure. Highly suspect, I say. And what do you say about Travis and Martell? The first time they did that surgery it put Webster out for way longer than was originally projected. Are you telling me putting screws in someones foot bones is better than just letting them heal? Highly suspect.
yes of course I'd tell you putting the screws in can be better
depending on the break and it’s location. Ever hear of a bone “not healing right”? Bones don’t always heal the way they are supposed to, calcium deposits are less than precise. The screws hold the bone in the correct position so that it heals faster and better.
As for Oden’s knee, I’ll take the professional’s opinion, along with the fact that you’d better believe that Oden’s agent made sure he needed the surgery 1st.
As for Webster, he came back early, the screw has no bearing on that. Your opinion seems anti-doctor/anti-surgery and not based on anything of substance.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
although
I bet you’ve seen some bad doctors push for surgery. However, there are a lot of people who have a lot of money riding on Oden, I can’t imagine that they didn’t do their due dilligance in protecting their investment before allowing surgery.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
How bad can his cartilage have been? He was 19 years old.
I suspect his cartilage could have been really bad, I don’t know if age has anything to do with the severity of damage, it’s just a case by case situation. I’ve personally had microfracture, and one thing I’ve learned from the experience is that age has very MUCH to do with the ability to recover from mf, and considering his youth he was a prime candidate. My understanding is that the older the patient, the less capable to rebound and heal from the procedure, so in those cases they may just fish out the loose cartilage (which can be problem itself floating around in the knee) and send them on their way.
Regardless, based on your professional experience, I guess it makes sense you’re a cynic. You probably come across more than your fair share of surgeries that go wrong or are unwarranted. Of course, you may have much less exposure to all the procedures that are successful. I would personally take the advice of a trained and experienced medical doctor with the knowledge that there are going to be unavoidable biases rather than take the advice from the person who has limited medical knowledge and seems to be driven by bias.
at the time of Greg's injury
they said the worn spot in the cartlilage was teh size of a thumbnail
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They also said that continuing to play on it would increase the size of the lesion
The team acknowledged that GO could have played on. But they felt they were making the responsible, long-range decision by performing what was essentially preventative surgery.
I dunno if that was the right decision. I’m no MD, besides which even orthopedists differ about the efficacy of microfracture surgery. But clearly the small size of the lesion doesn’t necessarily indicate that the procedure was unnecessary.
As for Martell, I believe the issue was that the site of the stress fracture gets little blood flow and isn’t likely to heal quickly or even at all without surgery. The fact that the foot took so long to heal following surgery only supports that.
I think goblazer1’s comment is over the top. Do doctors perform too many surgeries? No question. But not all of them are eager beavers. And I don’t feel the Blazers have been “jumping to surgery first every time.” E.g., remember Brandon Roy’s foot?
My own personal experience has been that some surgeons are absolutely willing to argue against surgery. When I had chronic neck pain, a neurosurgeon talked me out of neck surgery. And recently, an orthopedist at Rebound—a clinic used by the Blazers—elected not to operate on my knee despite obvious instability in the joint.
Some surgeons take the Hippocratic Oath, “First, do no harm,” to heart.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
i went to my doc for pubic symphysis surgery
but he told me i was long enough already.
not all docs are surgery hounds.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
So would you have advised Greg to reattach the bone in his knee with duct tape or urethane caulk???
I think this, along with Greg’s, Martells and Travis’s surgeries are all highly suspect.
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Gingko.
Rubbing gingko on a broken patella will cause it to magically heal, but only if your qi is aligned.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I had/have sort of the same problem.
Impingement of a vertabra on a nerve. In my case, the cervical (neck) spine and a nerve in the right arm. Cause was different too: mine is due to osteoarthritis, a fairly common occurrence in folks such as myself who are pushing 60.
There was talk about surgery, but I insisted on physical therapy and chiropractic treatment (BTW, I don’t believe in the theories of chiropractors, but they have always helped me with back and neck issues), and after 2 months I was fine.
I understand the situation would be different were I a pro athlete. Besides, everybody’s different.
#52
Athletes are a little different from the general population
Not just in terms of physical ability, also in terms of need. I can risk doing no sport for a year when injured to cure it out, gain 25 pounds, and still get paid as much as previously. A pro athlete who only has a career of 5 to max 15 years often can’t afford to do that. So anything that helps him or her be back in action quicker even if it’s just a temporal or somewhat risky fix is often the way to go.
All Rudy needs is prayer, a laying of hands and anointing with oil.
He’ll be right as rain in no time.
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Dec 8, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
sarcasm?
please be sarcasm…
really not the place for that, sarcastic or sincere, only a hornets nest.
I might as well say that what he needs is a Public Healthcare Plan, and then watch people get riled up.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
Snarky reaction to the anti-surgery guy's comments...
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Dec 8, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
i figured
but any pentecostal BEdgers might take extreme exception…
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by HurraKane212 on Dec 8, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting anecdote from Blazer history
Mychal Thompson claimed that significant pain in his elbow was relieved by a faith healer, circa 1985
true story
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Mychal Thompson...
…was quite the interesting fellow.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
he has one
Its called the CBA
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by DucRider on Dec 8, 2009 5:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I know many women here
who would volunteer to do the annointing.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Dude.
Seriously – are you a chiropractor or a naturopath or something?
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
"worked in the medical legal field"
Let me guess, you worked for HMOs.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
I'll trust the doctors, thanks.
I have worked in the medical-legal field…
Lawyers tend to know just enough about the underlying substantive fields in which they work to be dangerously wrong.
I think this, along with Greg’s, Martells and Travis’s surgeries are all highly suspect.
I’ll just address your assessment of Greg’s situation. One of the articles Ben linked to yesterday, I believe it was by KP2, looked at the history of similar injuries in the NBA. The only two examples he cited were Hayes and McDyess. If I recall correctly, both initially tried to let their bones heal naturally, and both suffered subsequent injuries that were far more serious as a result. I’m no doctor, but I’ve known several folks who’ve suffered broken bones that they let heal naturally. One common consequence of natural healing is that the bones don’t mend perfectly. As a result, those folks have to avoid activities that could cause a second break of the weakened bone. For the average person, that may not be a major problem. Perhaps I’d be willing to give up skiing to avoid surgery. For a professional athlete, however, it’s a virtual certainty that they will be placing a maximal strain on those bones in the future. Thus it’s extra important to ensure that the bones heal properly. Also, in Oden’s case, they needed to make sure that there was no ligament damage. Personally, I really doubt that avoiding surgery was even considered an option.
Who needs an MD if he can google his symptoms and even see how to do surgery for it on YouTube?
by Norsktroll on Dec 8, 2009 11:55 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
This is a lost season
I can’t believe how quickly it went from promising to crap.
On 955 the game
the wheels at work crew just had a doctor on who said the recovery time is about 3 months for this, depending on what they find when they do the surgery. 3 months is March, which is basically the rest of the season.
Simply amazing to have so many season ending injuries to one team.
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what did we fans' every do to deserve this
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What did the players due to deserve this?
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
youre right, its not about me, its about the players
im so selfish
i need a kleenix
:(
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You're a princess
it’s part of the job.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
it is indeed
im working on that though, im a NEW type of princess, bringing change, the kind you can believe in, to shake up the old ways of washington my kingdom.
…
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Like this one?
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For some reason, image embedding is not working for me....
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
i cant see this picture. lol
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Was supposed to be Sarah Palin.
I thought you might appreciate that. :)
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
I thought you meant she was a broken JPEG...
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by HurraKane212 on Dec 8, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
not really
but thx
lol
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God is gonna force Nate to play Bayless one way or another!!!
(…………….. what, too soon?)
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Some people need more prompting than others....
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
divine intervention or something like that
i have been praying for Nate to Free Dante , I guess God does indeed work in tragically mysterious ways.
sigh
s
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Clearly, this was caused by those Blazer fans who whined about last season's injuries
I recall debating one guy who insisted the Blazers had been hit hard by the injury bug last season (he cited Martell’s seaon-ending injury and GO & Blake’s injuries). This guy was arguing that, because the Blazers had won 54 games last season despite suffering so many injuries, they were sure to win lots more games this season.
I replied that, au contraire, the Blazers had gotten off easy: that other teams had fared far worse. Fact is, the injury factor is huge each and every year. To a large degree, the NBA champ is the team that has the best luck with injuries. OK, you’ve got to have contention-level talent also…
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That was me
I still maintain that we didn’t get off lightly last year, which I believe is what you wre claiming.
I certainly didn’t say we were “sure to win lots more games”. I said it was likely we would win more, because we weren’t likely to have any worse injury troubles than last year.
Do you maintain that we were likely to have these kinds of injuries? This is unprecedented.
#52
It's not really unprecedented
Every season, some team is absolutely decimated by injuries. This is the Blazers’ year (hopefully there won’t be another for awhile). Are they getting hit hard even by “decimated” standards? I dunno. They’ve lost two starters and two other rotation guys—with only one of the four certainly gone for the duration of the season (this after he’d been healthy the first 1/4).
Pay more attention, jscot: this stuff does happen in the NBA. By contrast, what happened to the Blazers last season was nothing—a walk in the park. Last season’s injuries are what you’d HOPE for (i.e., a season-ending injury to arguably the weakest starting three in the league, and shorter-duration injuries to your first-year, back-up center and your second-rate starting point guard). This is the perspective I was trying to provide when we had that earlier debate.
Basketball is a very physical game; no one gets thru 82 games, plus preseason and the playoffs, without some major injuries—not to mention lots of sprain / contusion-type injuries.
What’s ironic is that, to this date at least—the geezer-stocked teams in the league—i.e., the teams you’d EXPECT to have multiple major injuries—are skating along unscathed. If the Boston Celtics stay healthy all year and win another title, I may hurl.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
I should add that what makes it seem that the Blazers' are truly snakebit...
…is that the coach went and got hurt and that the owner and a beloved assistant coach have had relapses of their cancers. That, combined with the four serious player injuries, IS freakish.
But those three guys don’t suit up and play, so while their condition certainly is unfortunate and might affect team morale, it’s not the same as actually having seven players out of action. If THAT happened, then you’d be right, jscot: that would probably be unprecedented.
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Three points
1. Two starters and your sixth man third leading scorer for four months or more, plus your second best bench scorer out for over a month, plus two other players out for three months or more, is probably unprecedented. It is not the number of injuries, it is the number that are long term. I can’t think of any examples of a team getting hit that hard. You may say Pendergraph and Mills are irrelevant, but Pendergraph, at least, would be nice to have right now.
2. Oden was not a backup, he was starting at the time of both of his injuries. He had come out in preseason looking good, and went down his first game. He was just starting to get a rhythm, playing well (24/15 in one game), when he went down again. Because of the circumstances surrounding him, that was extremely unfortunate. I believe we’d have seen this year’s Greg by the end of last year (maybe the middle of last year) if it hadn’t been for those injuries. If you want to claim that Martell’s injury wasn’t that significant because of who he was, then you have to say that Greg’s injuries were hugely significant, all out of proportion to the games missed, because of who he was and where he was in his career — those injuries significantly hampered his progress in learning the NBA game.
3. Bottom line — our starters lost 120 games to injury. That works out to 24 per starter. No team that experiences that will consider itself lucky on the injury front. We were lucky in that Batum stepped up when no one expected him to. If Nic had been Boise fodder as expected, we would have really struggled at the 3 last year.
I never thought it was a devastating year for injuries, but lucky? No, that’s not accurate. We did have some real luck in where our injuries hit, though. We turned out to have a very good replacement at SF, and we knew we had a good replacement at center, with an adequate 4-5 combo of LMA and Channing when Joel was out of the game.
#52
Article on injury woes from a couple days ago if you havent see it
This was from a couple days ago but I hadn’t seen this posted. Good quotes from team that I havent seen in other coverage. Apologies if this has already been posted.
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/david_aldridge/12/07/morning.tip/index.html
Damn, we'll be awesome in March.
Can we reschedule the games in the interim?
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You mean take that elusive 4 month injury time out?
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
by dan_the_man on Dec 8, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hope for rainouts and finish the year with twenty doubleheaders in a row.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
All I can say is..
Brandon… PLEASE… watch out for falling pianos.
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Why?*
Remember the season where the Spurs lost Robinson? And remember the result? Duncan and a couple of championships.
This could be our golden ticket to solve our PG situation.
*Just kidding of course… i don’t wish for our guys to get hurt.
That would work, except there are some stupendously bad teams in the NBA.
Unless Roy and Aldridge just give up, you’re not getting Wall (unless you get the “miracle ball” like SAS did).
correction
not how u fail at twitter, how u fail at life, at your job!
really? no journalistic integrity whatsoever. where did the “out for season” come from? the air? also, sarcastic jokes about the coaches playing, innapropriate.
that guy should appologize and dissapear. what a jerk
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He butt-dialed the "out for the season" part.
Amazing what you can do with twitter.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
seriously so stupid
i cannot believe that is on twitter. that dude should apologize, quit his twitter account and leave the city.
jerk
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i was thinking about permanent banishment.
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
You're so lenient
You may be a princess, but you’re too soft-hearted to rule the world.
#52
ITS AN EMOTIONAL TIME FOR ME JSCOT
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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..permanent banishment off the earth
how’s that for u?
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It's worth remembering
That this potentially season-ending injury is the direct result of the flagrant foul from Trevor Ariza. Granted, Rudy managed to play a lot since then, but he’s never been the same, and this is simply the delayed result.
Is it?
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh.
How do you know it’s not the even more delayed reaction to a skateboarding fall he took when he was 12?
It must be awesome to be omniscient…
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I'll take it for the purported comment of a Spanish agent in a Jason Quick article.
That seems sufficient.
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by timbo on Dec 8, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I suppose you're right
Falling on the exact spot he’s having trouble from 7 feet up in the air, less than a year ago, is probably unrelated.
What Norsk was referring to, from yesterday's Quick article
Gerard Darnes, the Spanish agent for Fernandez, said the back problems stem from last season’s nasty fall against the Lakers, when Trevor Ariza fouled him from behind, leading to Fernandez leaving the court in a neck brace and on a stretcher.
you're really asking for it, Mr. Laker fan
Trevor did it because he was a cheating Laker with a tiny black heart, like all Lakers.
by PoliSam on Dec 8, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I read an interview Rudy did at the end of last season
where he said that he injured his back after the foul with Ariza and wasn’t playing at 100%. He also said his main goal during the summer was to go back to Spain and get some rest and let his back heal properly. And I thought that was great up until he wanted to play for the National team.
Timbo I recall telling you at the beginning of the season that is back problem was going to be an issue.
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by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Dec 8, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Omniscience is over rated.
I was, for a while. I sent it back. You’d be amazed at how much the stuff you DON’T want to know outweighs what you DO.
Omnipotence, now, that’s attractive.
the direct result of the flagrant foul from Trevor Ariza
Sue the L*kers!
We’ll take Lamar Odom and call it good
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These lyrics for some reason, sound appropriate...
Through early morning fog I see
visions of the things to be
the pains that are withheld for me
I realize and I can see…
you all know the rest.
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losing streaks are painless
they bring on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please
Should be no surprise.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Well I know we are better than the "Thunder"
Even with half our team out.
Start Miller. Trade Steve Blake.
I don't
We might be better, but I certainly don’t know that. They’ve played well against a tough schedule. Over the last two weeks, we’ve been worse, for sure.
#52
Well, yeah.
But I still think we are a better team in the long run, and I would take Brandon over Durant any day (not just being biased). We have not been playing as such and it’s frustrating. But, I still say we make the playoffs over the “Thunder”. He also has New Orleans out too. It’s not likely that we both miss the playoffs. It’s really early to tell though.
And I don’t consider last nights loss a “blow-out”. It was ugly, but Phoenix got hammered by 27 pts last week. That is a blowout.
Start Miller. Trade Steve Blake.
It was a blowout that we made respectable with a good first half of the fourth
I’ll find out how long Rudy is out, and find out whether the coaches can somehow figure out how to utilize the talent we have left, before I decide we’re better.
But I’m pretty much persuaded OKC is a contender for a playoff spot this year. Hate to say it, but they seem to have it together pretty well.
#52
Sadly...
Thunder are now significantly more likely to make the playoffs than the Blazers.
They’ve held up against a rough schedule and have no major injuries going forward.
Blazers have been mediocre against a creampuff schedule even with (for part of the time) several key players they won’t have going forward.
Put it this way: the team out there on the floor right now is pretty similar to the 41-41 team from two years ago. There are really no differences other than Miller for Jack (a wash, basically). Roy is playing pretty similarly to how he played two years ago, most importantly.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
the team out there on the floor right now is pretty similar to the 41-41 team from two years ago. There are really no differences other than
Cunningham = Outlaw
Who gets to play the role of James Jones?
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How could I forget about Trout!
This team is clearly worse than the 41-41 team, unless Brandon or Lamarcus or Bayless starts playing significantly better. Am I wrong?
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
Webster can play Jones
as well as himself.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
nope, you are not wrong
If Roy and Aldridge keep playing at their 2007 levels, and the PG play continues to be terrible, this is a .500 team at best.
#52
Miller is better than Jack was
and Bayless is better than Sergio was.
But if Joel or LaMarcus miss a game or more, we don’t have Channing.
But there is help coming. It seems a long time away, but Rudy should be back, and probably Nic, and hopefully Travis as well. We just need to get enough wins to stay in range, and if we do we might be able to make a late run.
It’s not that I think it is probable, but it could happen.
#52
To make matters worse...
The playoff odds don’t take injuries into account.
Hollinger’s formula projects the Blazers would miss the playoffs, based on performance this season, even without knowing that the Blazers will be missing Oden/Trout/Rudy for the foreseeable future.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
surgery
I’ve had a microdiscetomy surgery (L5/S1disc) after struggling with HORRIBLE sciatic leg pain…could not walk…sit…..etc…..after the surgery I had INSTANT relief…..it is hard for me to believe that he would be out months……
Portland Trail Blazers - where injuries and people come together"
Instant relief
for normal activity, but NBA play is not normal. If he is out less than a month, it will be a shock.
#52
in recovery
I had instant relief from the sciatic leg/back pain once I awoke in the recovery room….then I had recovery time from the surgery….but the sciatic pain was gone …
Portland Trail Blazers - where injuries and people come together"
Agreed, I had instant pain relief, and return of muscular strength..
the surgeon came in as I woke up from surgery and started doing strength tests to see all was as planned. Sensory and motor nerves were both getting shut down, so pain and weakness. If you loose STRENGTH as well as hurt, not a happy time. And you can have permanent nerve damage if severe (like mine was). That is totally awesome.
The recovery is for the incision, and if that is small, that is a huge assist in speedy recovery.
We can’t know the specifics of the severity. Also, cause can be very difficult to pinpoint.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
At what point do we suit up Blaze.....
…..When it rains it pours.
If we didn’t still have so much talent, it would be tempting to tank the whole season and see if we could land the top pick again. Oh well, Minny has a pretty big lead on us at this point, so I guess we better suck it up!
Maybe now Nate can figure out that Bayless needs to play. Speaking of which, has anybody else thought about the idea of a Roy, Miller, Bayless three guard rotation??? Maybe it is just because I am developing an unhealthy frustration with Blake’s excessive minutes.
by upper left corner on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 PM PST reply actions
Who'se better
Blaze, or Blake?
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Well, at least one of those two has proven he has the ability to finish at the rim...
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by timbo on Dec 8, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
With a trampoline
Could Blake touch the rim if they gave him a springy thing to jump on?
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
oh,
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
by thomasikehara on Dec 8, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Each year, the team has an official whipping boy.
Last year it was Oden, with a few votes for Sergio.
The year before it was Jarrett Jack.
The year before that, Martell.
The year before that, Bassy.
Before that, Dental Derek Anderson.
I won’t go back any further.
This year, it seems to be Blake, though on Dwight’s blog, folks have zeroed in on Brandon for some reason.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Seems about right each year to me … but I think it was far more Sergio last year. And in each case … the fans seem to have it on the money.
sergio was last year
outlaw has always been second place
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
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if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
by thomasikehara on Dec 8, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the Trade Jack crowd was particularly rabid
They seemed to think his penchant for stepping out of bounds while starting his drives—an error that he committed about once per game—was what was keeping the Blazers from winning a championship.
Fact is, Jack wasn’t half-bad. His ability to take it to the hole and draw fouls (& make the foul shots) was a huge asset late in games. Roy would take a breather on the weak side and watch Jack go to work.
But the whipping-boy phenomenon isn’t rational. It’s sheer emotion—an outlet for the frustration of watching a mediocre team day after day, week after week.
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Don't know how I am the only person to have rec'ed this
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 8, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
Me either, I thought that was a pretty good joke.
That’s a terrific video above of Blake dunking, by the way…
oh,
he could touch the rim
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Canzano said
Blaze is going in for Tommy John surgery…guess he attacked the tramp before properly stretching?
I still say bring back Dale Schlueter in the Big Foot costume…best mascot ever
…pass the beer nuts
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tramp = trampoline
just incase anyone gets the wrong idea about Blaze…not that that ever happens
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Oh, yeah, sure...
FLAGGED!!!
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I liked Beerman Bill
of course, he’s dead. :(
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
I almost said
pass the beerman…but I doubted anyone would make the connection
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i think bayless isnt playing much
to avoid risking an injury
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
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if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
by thomasikehara on Dec 8, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Reading this....
just injured my soul. I can’t take much more of this. I guess it can’t get much worse.
Oh it could
But you don’t want to know or think how.
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Watching the video of the surgery was a big mistake
Man, I didn’t need a reminder of why I didn’t become a doctor. GROSS!
kenny vance is ranting
and he is naming names…..calling out BROY, LA…WEB…BLAKE AND NATE…LOVE IT!!
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And another one bites the dust.. and another ones gone and another ones gone, and another one bites the dust....
bum bum bum budu du du dum bu du du du du du du dum.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Fat bottom girls
You make the rockin’ world go round.
(not appropriate?)
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
I wish Greg could ride a Bicycle?
he’d be closer to recovery
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
Seriously
What’s going to happen next, is Blazer One going to crash?
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Meteor striking the Rose Garden
Book it.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
I thought when
Nate got hurt that was about as comical as it could get. This is just ridiculous.
I seriously want to hurl.
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seriously dont say stuff like that
eek
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 8, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Normally I wouldn't
But that seems about the next logical step.
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I always missed him
No joke.
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by skywaker9 on Dec 8, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Me.
He is way more important than I thought.
Clyde the Glide, the greatest player ever
Cliff Robinson got mad at my brother who was trying to sell him a cellphone when my brother called him Uncle Cliffy. Apparently, he doesn't like that name very much.
by BeaumontTXBlazerFan on Dec 8, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
not nearly as much
as I miss watching #88 develop
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by two4larue on Dec 8, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
That was the first, biggest blow—until GO’s injury, of course. At the time, I said that folks were underestimating how much Batum would be missed. But we were all pretty naive then, believing in our ultra-deep juggernaut of a team.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
I Love to nit-pick...
Er…I mean I hate to nit-pick but Ben? Your headline, he’s having Microdiscetomy to relieve Leg Pain not back pain. It’s a back surgery to relieve leg pain…I know…who cares…
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
well,
it often hurts in the lower back, and shoots down the legs. Nerve pain is funny that way. Dunno what Rudy’s is though.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Dec 8, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
It all stems from the cheap shot
Arizza put on him.
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i added the leg part in there. until the last 24 hours, it has always been described as back pain. this is the first we have heard leg. the location of surgery is the back. but it’s probably most accurate for me to include both back and leg in the title. fixed.
by Ben Golliver on Dec 8, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, at first I thought I had a sore leg muscle that wouldnt go away..
when I went to the doctor, he didn’t take long to recognize the disc in the back as the cause.
You pinch the nerve going down the leg, and your brain thinks the leg is sending messages.
Sciatic runs down to the big toe, I got real familiar with that neural pathway….
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Roy
injuries aside….I think this has been about Brandon’s youth and immaturity. He doesn’t want to change his game….period…end of story….and he is doing it over the good of the team…and managment and NATE is letting him do it…there is absolutely NO LEADERSHIP. I was at Saturday’s game…and there is ODEN…..WAVING HIS ARMS for the ball….for god’s sake I saw it clearly in the nose bleed seats and Brandon did not even give him a look….until we realize truly what “Roys Team” is we are are going to keep getting what we are getting….yuck…the fact we haven’t started Dre Miller is unbelievable to me…how would you do if you had to come off the bench and the mechanics of your game changing,,,,,we don’t want a true point guard….Roy will NEVER want a another star on this team…face it rip city…..
Portland Trail Blazers - where injuries and people come together"
I'm sorry but
Even the Dream Team would have had trouble playing well with this many injuries, this many constant changes to your flow.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
"face it rip city"
what??/ he has his issues but damn like 8 players are down with serious injuries, a major roll player and 2 starters. WTH.
Write a fanpost , seriously, this is ridiculous
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
lol @ write a fanpost
is that what fanposts have been reduced to?
“i’m annoyed by being suckered into reading your opinion just because you decided to post the comment in a topic i care about. next time please keep your comment out of worthwhile topics… instead write a fanpost so i can ignore it completely except in the unlikely event that it amasses enough recs to inspire me to check it out.”
that’s how i approach fanposts now, anyway. but i guess your real point is that debra wasn’t on topic with her post… and i suppose i’m not helping.
I believe this is much bigger than the injuries….is started in the off season…and then in pre season…prior to all the injuries….
Portland Trail Blazers - where injuries and people come together"
wow
tough crowd….I’m listening to 95.5 at work so maybe I should not do BE and 95.5 at the same time….in my own defense I have seen lot’s of off topic banter on BE…no reason to attack me….and my opinion…you all have yours….I will be more cozignant of this in the future…
Portland Trail Blazers - where injuries and people come together"
No worries, you're right...
People are off topic all the time. This post has turned into a general mourning of a lost season. Roy’s regression is within the natural flow, kind of.
People are understandably sensitive about the aforementioned lost season and the latest bad news, so talking about Roy’s issues in a post about Rudy’s injury was pretty likely to draw some return fire. But don’t worry about it too much.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
No attacking
She had a point that you were off-topic, that’s all.
I certainly wasn’t attacking you, or your opinion.
#52
Er, she also has a point
This team had serious problems long before GO went down, and they weren’t all injury-related by any means. Roy said that even when the team was winning early this season, “it didn’t feel right.” It didn’t feel right mainly because it wasn’t Roy-centric.
My only quibble with what debra31098 said is that Roy may well outgrow his immaturity. If you’re immature at the age of 29 or 30, THAT’S a problem. But at this point, it’s not fair to say that Roy “will NEVER want another star on this team.” We don’t know that. I’m inclined to agree with KP that Roy is essentially an unselfish player. He’ll learn to share the rock without sulking and dragging his feet. At least, there’s still reason to hope he will.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
People have been talking about Roy
as though he morphed into Stephon Marbury.
That, he most certainly has not.
What has happened, is that a) opposing defenses have found ways to guard him that are effective, b) he hasn’t adjusted; b) the Blazers’ outside shooting is way off this year, making a more effective.
Oh, and certain personnel changes have been a big on-court distraction.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
There's another factor that's been forgotten by most observers
Remember Roy announcing during the preseason that he’d altered his off-season routine? In an effort to reduce wear & tear on his body, he played virtually no basketball all summer—instead biking and swimming to stay in shape.
So Roy came into this season very rusty, expecting to quickly play off that rust. But when opposing defenses came at him in new, effective ways, he found it hard to find his rhythm & confidence. Compounding the problem was that, with the arrival of Miller and the emergence of GO, Roy wasn’t handling the ball as much.
Roy ended up blaming the latter factor for his problems and not acknowledging that his changed off-season regimen and adjustments by opposing teams were also factors in his poor play. That was an immature reaction. But no—it wasn’t Marbury-esque by any means.
(Probably also a significant factor in Roy’s poor play so far this season: Roy signed that big contract and likely has felt the pressure to live up to it.)
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
And the price of rice in China?
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
That seems to be the sentiment
of the O-live, bojack, Dwight Jaynes crowd.
Based on what, exactly?
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Roy half-heartedly running out on 3 point shooters last night
the feeling this year is that even before the injuries the players weren’t playing with the same scrap and spunk as last year. Nate warned them (and us) that they wouldn’t be able to “flip a switch” during the preseason, and besides that 7-2 stretch where they defended well, the team has underachieved
Vance and Jaynes say it could be due to the Roy-Miller-Blake love triangle. (Any better explanation would be appreciated.) I’m just hoping that Brandon and LMA haven’t become “fat cats” now that they’ve gotten paid…it wouldn’t be the first time for young pro players…Blazer fans have certainly seen this, before
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Nah, I really don't think it's laziness due to the money
If anything, the money has put pressure on Roy, in particular, to be “The Man.” Conscientious guys who sign big contracts often struggle to find their game. They feel great pressure to justify making all that dough.
Letting other people handle the rock and only scoring 20 or so ppg (and missing the all-star game) is easier when you’re not a max contract guy.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
Less is more, all the great ones have learned it
When Wilt, MJ, K*be (etc) started “making their teammates better” it led to championships
Brandon and LMA are back to square one. They can take the ball and do what they’ve done for the last 2-3 years or tap into Andre’s BBIQ and take a quantum leap forward
What they decide may be the difference of Portland’s “window” reopening, or remaining shut. Will they share the ball with their teammates, or keep playing a 2-man game that can be easily defended in a playoff series? Will the current coaching staff demand better passing and situational recognition from them, or will the “need to win this game, tonight” keep the focus on “doing what’s always worked in the past” so they can continue grinding out regular season victories at the expense of total team cohesiveness?
Individual goals and awards are semi-satisfying, but Oden cared more about the team. I’m going to miss that about him until he returns
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Amen
I know it would have been a lot to ask. But imagine if Roy had announced at the beginning of this season: “OK, making the All-Star team the past two seasons was great and all. But that’s kid stuff. I’m a grown man now, with a contract that means I’m set for life. My goal now is to be part of an NBA championship team. So I’m not going to worry about scoring or touches; I don’t care if I score 5 points per game. I want to make my teammates better from here on out—starting with that big young guy in the paint. From now on, I don’t want this to be ’Brandon’s team.’ I want it to be GREG’S team. Everything needs to start with him, at both ends. That’s what’s going to make us a nightmare for the rest of the league to deal with.”
I know. Dream on!!
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
Of course, with GO's injury, my little dream scenario has even less chance of becoming reality
It will be too easy to rationalize continuing with the Roy-centric approach now. How can you build around a center who’s injury-prone?
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
No Nate was comical
This is just painful.
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Update (1:02PM): Dr. Rich Edelson of Sports Medicine Oregon told Wheels at Work on 95.5FM…
“[Rudy Fernandez] can get going right away on conditioning… he can do some things pretty quickly. He can swim, it’s more the impact of running and jumping [that might take longer].”
Jay Allen reports that doctors have told him that there is a broad timeline of 6-12 weeks for recovery from this procedure.
Punishment from God.
It’s all the fornication and sodomy that goes on in Portland. Falwell warned us.
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
by Benjamanic on Dec 8, 2009 1:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
no no no
it’s because of the purple teletubby!
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
Obviously
I go to the wrong parties.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
Aw Man!
I was gonna post that video from youtube of the lumbar microdisectomy.
Playoff starting lineup:
Brandon Roy – G/F
LMA – F/C
Steve Blake – PG
Bench:
None
Even after LMA fouls out in the second quarter Blake can still inbound to Roy so technically the game won’t end until one of them gets hurt or fouls out. The three-player lineup will lend itself very well to running Roy Iso plays.
This is just more disappointing news.
I feel for you Blazer fans. Nothing worse than seeing your season get hit with setbacks due to injury. We’ve dealt with it in the past in Denver with Nene (torn ACL after two minutes in game one of the season and then testicular cancer) and with Kenyon Martin (two microfracture surgeries … one on each knee).
I was really looking forward to a great battle with the Nuggets and Blazers the rest of the way … I hope the team can hold things together with all the injuries. Lousy way to start such a promising year.
-Nate. DenverStiffs.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 8, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the kind words
If there’s any silver lining to all of these injuries, it’s the fans from other teams who have dropped by to offer support.
Thx. Good luck with the Nugs.
They’re my second favorite since Chauncey came along. Beat LA!
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
Yeah, your Thuggets have indeed been hard-hit by the injury bug
I pointed this out early this season to Blazer fans who whined about Blazer injuries. Until now, Denver was a poster child for injury problems. Unfortunately, now it’s our turn.
Oh, and sorry about the “Thuggets” shot. But we DO hate you guys, you know. That’s what good rivalries are all about. :-)
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
No worries on the "Thuggets" line ... it's become sort of a welcomed sign of disrespect.
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by Nate Timmons on Dec 9, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
This franchise is snake-bitten
It’s too bad because this round of playoff contenders for PDX is just about as likable as the Porter/Kersey/Drexler group of the 90s. :(
Portland's PG of the Future - MORE John Wall
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
Oh they're more likeable
If you ask me.
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So is my grandma
Bring back the Jailblazers! Those guys never got injured, except for Zach and Darius.
Maybe most likeable
in 40 years. Gets my vote.
"Pickin' up the pieces of my sweet shattered dream, I wonder how the old folks are tonight."
by RandyinParadise on Dec 8, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
"Her name was Ann and I'll be damned if I recall her face
she left me not knowin’ what to do"
It hasn’t been a “Carefree highway” around these parts since early last April
The mid ‘80s team was extremely likeable. Jim “fat guard” Paxson. Mychal “Bum” Thompson. (They nicknamed Kelvin Ransey "Mrs. Butteworth’s" because he was “thick and rich”)
But they couldn’t get past Kareem, Magic and the L*kers. “Likeable” only takes you so far
We’ve seen better days, the mornin’ after blues, from my head down to my shoes…
Carefree highway, let me slip away on you. The one and only Gordon Lightfoot
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
lol love it. well done
Portland's PG of the Future - MORE John Wall
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
thanks for fixing!
I was working on new one…this one is great!
Mine too, and my sig...
Let's do it for the big man!...and Rudy!....and Nic!...and, uh, Trout, Pendy, Patty, Mo, Mr. Allen, and Nate!
Rehab With Us
Soon we will have a picture of the "injured" contingent
sitting behind the bench at games.
One thing for sure, it won’t be lonely rehabbing in Portland, plenty of comradere.
Really an interesting group… possibly a better team than the active starters.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Nice and REC, but I like the original parody better...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
New uniforms
The Blazers will be modeling new home uniforms based upon surgical scrubs…
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
that blueish green stuff
interesting
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
by thomasikehara on Dec 8, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Don't worry
Steve Blake is like our utility infielder. He can soak up the extra minutes at SG (and C, and SF)
www.blazerguy.com
Like the dad in The Christmas Story said
we got a whole damn team full of utility infielders.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Rudy's Surgery
I had this surgery yesterday. I am taking it easy today per Dr. orders with short walks throughout the day. Quite sore at the incision but NO more leg pain!!! I was told 6 weeks for full recovery, doing too much too soon increases risk of another herniation.
interesting. Which disc ?
Great you are up about already. In the old days I was bed ridden in hospital for a week after.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Actually, it is now Rudiculous...
sorry, couldn’t help myself…
Let's do it for the big man!...and Rudy!....and Nic!...and, uh, Trout, Pendy, Patty, Mo, Mr. Allen, and Nate!
Rehab With Us
by clinchmobb on Dec 8, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rudy should be fine in time to play for Spain this summer.
Nic should be fine in time to play for France this summer.
They can come back here next October for rest and surgeries if needed.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 8, 2009 2:11 PM PST reply actions 14 recs
You've gotta be freakin' kidding me.
Wow, just wow. I can’t believe this teams luck this year.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
I can't wait
until the blazer dancers get to suit up and take the court. Should be any day now……
If they don't get hurt first.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Is this karma for the Miles email saga?
We get it already. Uncle!
One thing that bothers me is Rudy and Batum playing for their Euro teams all summer long rather than recovering and/or having their problems surgically fixed in the offseason.
Don't get slapped again
KP: The one thing I know for sure is that this is a predatory league.
When I talk about KP getting fair or equal trade value for his assets, this is what I’m talking about. You always want your GM to be dealing from a position of strength, not desperation. It sucks that KP’s hands are now tied, but it’s better to do nothing than to deal away the next Jermaine O’Neal
But again, if Mike Bibby goes down with a long-term injury in the next month KP should try to get what he can from ATL in exchange for Andre Miller. “Predatory” works both ways
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Does any one feel like we are the Utah Jazz of 08-09?
They had a bunch of injuries sideline them for a good while into 09, then made a push to get back into the playoffs as the 8th seed. It seems like forever from now but I could imagine something like that for us. Although, getting into the lottery isn’t a terrible consolation.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
A little crazy
But Rudys surgery makes me feel a little better about Greg
come back strong fellas!!!!
by doomsdaymachine on Dec 8, 2009 3:52 PM PST via mobile reply actions
At least our top two guys are healthy
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
This is becoming laughable...
is this really happening to the YOUNGEST team in the NBA!!!
A poor Blazer in the State of New York
I KNEW I shouldn't have laughed at what injury-magnets those the Celtic geezers would be this season
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
One bright thing that can possibly come from this is PT for Bayless
I was at the game last night and the Blazers have no one I mean no one as quick as him. The way he can get to the basket and draw the foul shows that he is a true scorer and the Blazers need that right now
A poor Blazer in the State of New York
Here's hoping Rudy gets better quickly!!
Hmm…all access pass to the hospital where he had surgery (my employer) wonder if I should drop by, pay him a visit and wish him well. ;-)
You could auction it off
some of the ladies here would make you a rich man. :)
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
For sure!! Do I hear 20 bucks??!!?
Just to clarify for all I am not a stalker and am the type that even if I saw a Blazer on the street I’d be far too embarrased to ever say anything to them.
Think SNL and The Chris Farley Show. :-D
Great one but...
I was thinking more along the lines of “Do you remember when you were in The Beatles?”
RIP Farley—- one of my all-time favorites.
I'm thinkin of going across town to camp out in front of the surgery center for autographs
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
When they do the PA before the game
they should have the team doctor come out on the floor and give the guys high-fives and chest bumps. While wearing surgical scrubs.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 8, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Holy Moly!
Brandon and Lamarcus are going to have to bring it every night and we’ll see how valuable both of them are to this team. That would be great if we could still make the playoffs. Good goal to set.
Those four faces on Mount Rushmore are always there to remind us that yes, if you do enough good deeds, you will change into a mountain when you die.
KP has always been high on Rex
(of course, he was high on Sergio, as well)
but Nate is the coach who doles out the playing time
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Please Don't Make Cunningham a Fixture in the Rotation
Just play him sparingly when needed and shorten the rotation please…
Roy, Aldridge, Andre Miller, Blake, Pryz, Bayless, Juwan Howard, and Webster….
Why not? He's playing solid ball.
Not much offense, but his defense is there and he has good rebounding instincts. He looks more NBA-ready than most rookies.
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
OMG!
I just figured it out! Bayless has put a curse on this team and we will keep loosing players until he get’s to start. Can’t say I blame him….
Rookies 1 and 3, actually, but point taken.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Tryouts...
Maybe it’s time for someone from BE to really help the Blazers, who would make a good blazer filler? Maybe it’s time for an average Portland Joe to tryout. I’d be willing to appear, take one shot in the NBA and retire (if not killed by Shaq closing out on me).
What did we do to anger the Basketball Gods?
I know, there isn’t such a thing but just seems like this is never-ending and beyond circumstance. Hope Rudy gets better as soon as possible (but not so soon that it doesn’t really heal) as well as the rest of our boys. I do feel like sending crash helmets and bubble wrap to the remaining guys but that probably would make it hard to play basketball. At this point if we make 8th seed I’ll be totally happy but given the circumstances just want all our guys back in one piece and those left standing to stay standing.
Is there such a thing
as a make a wish foundation for NBA players? I’d like to help where I can. LOL
there is
when i was in high school roy tarpley’s biggest wish was to be a security guard.
thanks to your donations he achieved his goal!
dinasour type of guys choir boys
New Blazer theme song!
Another one bites the dust by Queen. Too fitting.
So would you guys be interested in...
a 6"10/250 PF with a known penchant for outside shooting? He was a first round pick by the NBA champion Lakers. He’s played at center in playoffs, at PF, and SF, and is only 29 and definitely has not been overused.
All Kevin Pritchard needs to do for this guy to be yours is for him to say 4 magic words:
“We’ll take Brian Cook.”
You needn’t send anything back, we know times are tough in Portland.
He’s a spot-up shooter, so Nate might like that :-)
Problem is that he can’t defend his position. But Nate might like that, too. Don’t know if Pritchard and Allen would be happy to pay the $3.5 million for it. Would you take a slightly used PF back who was a #5 pick?
Oh yes, he's a shooter all right.
I’ve never seen a guy that big more allergic to the paint. No, not even Euro “centers”.
But we probably would take LMA back, despite what is looking like a scary contract, in hopes that being back in Texas would revive him or something.
We’d probably play him at center.
I’ve used this line (lifted from Patton) in connection to Cook, but recently it could apply to Aldridge:
“You’re going under the boards my friend – and you may die – but you will not stay here! (points to 3pt line).”
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