Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Knicks--Post-Game Edition
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Ugly
uuuuuugggggly
Mark my words... Dante Cunningham will be an all star
Um I was afraid to look
I think the world is ending the mayans were right!
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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 7, 2009 7:01 PM PST reply actions
Steve Blake must go.
That is all.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Dec 7, 2009 7:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
they just followed exactly what he always does
this team STILL can’t play defense. this team STILL can’t run a pick and roll
Still Nate's perplexing rotations / substitution patterns
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
Blake is the worst starting PG in the league.
With the possible exception of Duhon.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 7, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Well...
Tyreke Evans is a PG, sort of. When Martin comes back Beno won’t start, right?
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 7, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
am I having a nightmare
please tell me i am so I know when I wake up everything will be better
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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 7, 2009 7:02 PM PST reply actions
uh suddenly we suck
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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 7, 2009 7:03 PM PST reply actions
Cracking open a Keystone Light
Crappy beer for a crappy loss.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
i was hopin the boys would come out hard
forr all their homies who are hurt
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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 7, 2009 7:04 PM PST reply actions
There's a legitimate concern that Portland could be under .500 by New Year's.
Hopefully they can work out their energy problems and turn it around.
something
has to happen or this season is going to completely collapse. pretty depressing considering what we were all hoping for in october. now, is it too much to hope that we don’t fall out of the playoff picture? sigh……
Roy and LMA seem content to run up their stats in garbage time.
To be fair, the role players aren’t helping.
#52
by jksnake99 on Dec 7, 2009 7:04 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Blake did way better then andre tonight....
Why can we not get over this player this this player that and be happy… WE COULD BE THE NETS!!!!!!!
broy and the squad ended with decent stats but after they decided to put it together.
Dre had 4 to’s and 2 ast.. he hasnt been dishin at all latly and chuckin the ball over alot… blakey 2to 4 ast 9 points 4-8 much better his =/- was the best on the whole squad sit bayless and andre… ball dont lie!
(howard was +12 but he didnt produce nothing)
by blake over miller on Dec 7, 2009 7:05 PM PST reply actions
Andre got called for a bunch of BS charges
Steve Blake is garbage, a backup, old, and has the court vision of a one eyed bat
ughh yah thats right..
if steve is such garbage why when hes on the floor the blazerss play better?….also why is this amazing dre we should start having such horrible numbers averaging 27 minutes a game this year? if hes so great then why in playing over half of the game does his number look worse the sergios last year?
by blake over miller on Dec 7, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
miller isn't playing any better
bayless should be playing, face it Mrs. Blake, your son is on the cusp of washed up.
ok..
blake is not at all…however he should be backup to bayless… trade dre for a banger pf..
by blake over miller on Dec 7, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
I want Gerald Wallace
What do u think we’d have to give up to get him? He would provide more scoring and rebounding. Both of which we desperately need with Oden out…
by ClydeTheGlyde on Dec 7, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
He would be the almost ideal reinforcement (since there is no center like Greg available), helping with the rebounding on both ends, taking pressure off the paint with great perimeter defense, and scoring easy points inside and drawing fouls. Unfortunately I think that train has left the station with Raef’s contract, but it sure wouldn’t hurt to ask. Those guys have made some strange deals in the past, and Larry Brown can turn on anyone at any time. At the moment it’s rather Augustin though.
you gotta remember
we’d be dealing with michael jordan…
i think we could trade for wallace with an offer of 10 rounds of golf at oregon’s nicest courses and maybe a million dollars of gambling credit at chinook winds
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 7, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
there are both playing very poorly.
#52
by jksnake99 on Dec 7, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
oden...
he doesnt need to be playing for andre to dish to open guys and run plays…free bayless
by blake over miller on Dec 7, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
We came, we saw, we lost
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Free Bayless
4-5, 6-7, 1 reb, 2 assists, 1 steal, 1 TO, 2 fouls. What’s wrong with that line? That he only got twice as many minutes as Juwan Howard and less than half of Blake’s.
I don’t get why he can’t play in a Nic Batum role, as a constant starter or rotation player with low but regular minutes. Now more than ever.
whats wrong with that line
the +/- of 10 while he was on the court….him and la had the worst +/
by blake over miller on Dec 7, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
lol yup
howards got game still.. we should start bayles/mills/penndy/cunningham/howard sometime to get the real starters heads straight.. maybe against the bulls…..(granted all is healthy…)
by blake over miller on Dec 7, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
lma/roy have not been doing that great its like they wait for the fourth to try…
by blake over miller on Dec 7, 2009 7:05 PM PST reply actions
I can't do this anymore.
I can’t watch this team without the joy of following Batum’s or Oden’s progress, while our big money players mail it in entirely and we refuse to play the only guy with any energy or promise because of an inept coaching staff.
It's a tune-out fest.
i felt like this even before oden but it's even worse now, and i really want to support the franchise
at the same time…cmon
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
i hate losin
but losin to the knicks sucks
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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 7, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
The frustrating thing is that there seem to be no go-to plays and movement on offense
Just stagnant 1 on 1 offense with turnarounds, long jumpers, and hasty drives. Might get a little better once Rudy returns, but all in all it feels very predictable and easy to stop.
this rings true
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
for about a year and a half now!
"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.
What the #$% does Bayless have to do to get more minutes? Seriously. I am getting really tired of not seeing him play more.
Find a way. Any way to get him minutes. Our coaching staff not playing him more is really starting to make me think they just don’t like him.
Oden fan for life
He'd probably have to hunt down and eat Blake
Other than that, probably nothing besides a coaching change.
There are lots of mediocre teams in the league that are fun to watch
Right now we’ve got the mediocre part, but we are not fun to watch at all.
by samuelleejackson on Dec 7, 2009 7:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ha ha, very true.
Burn Blake, play Rex, make sure Inferno gets lots of minutes, and let’s see what happens.
We might still lose, but it would be fun to watch. Unlike this crap…
I have hit the limit on watching Nate’s horrible “pick and iso jumpshot” offense or seeing Blake butcher every single chance to run…
Give use The Rex. NOW!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
we suck so bad its not even funny
our starting lineup apart from roy and aldridge is a joke offensively.
cant wait for rudy to be back.
is batum going to be back this year? cant wait for that either.
our ball movement is bullcrap. horrible. just reeks.
Sorry but Roy is a joke to this year.
No way around that.
by Jeffe Portland on Dec 7, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
przbzilla
i’m sorry but how can one player be so ridiculously bad offensively? i mean the guy can’t even pass the ball in bounds
at the nba level, inbounding is key
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
where am I?
i suddenly awoke to find my team in a horrible state. this must be another dimension where our playoff bound team suddenly sucks. this is the twilight zone—i friggin knew it!
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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 7, 2009 7:11 PM PST reply actions
aaaarrrrrrrggggghhhhh!
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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 7, 2009 7:12 PM PST reply actions
I feel so much better being with all you bummed out people!
Yessir let’s all be bummed together!
Hug?
Awful Game
Painful to watch phoning it in. Bayless needed more time out there, Blake needed less. Roy and LA need to pick up there game. This team is playing without a sense of urgency. I fear this may be a sign of bad things to come. We need to play Bayless more and Blake a whole lot less. Blake just doesnt have it this year, people are saying to trade him. Umm too whom? He looks very bad and flat out there, other coaches watch games as well.
I can accept a lot of things from a coaching staff
Because I/we don’t know all the behind the scene action. But what I don’t get is when you don’t ride a hot hand until it fizzles. That is basic coaching. If someone has an advantage you milk it for all it’s worth. And you definitely don’t sit the guy during that stretch. I haven’t been a huge bayless fan, but this was ridiculous.
#52
Bust a Bucket 2009 edition (Clunk a Bucket)
Clunk a Bucket, who’d a missed a dunk it, Blazer duty, super clunk it, slammin’ geez it, no more threes in, go up-get it-don’t got it-suck!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Blazers need to find their jumpers and spread the floor.
Outlaw takes a ton of criticism. But, his jumper is solid. The Blazers are going to struggle until they get healthy.
It’s going to be ugly.
any guesses on our win loss on this road trip?
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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 7, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions
why is he laughing?
this is funny to you??!?!
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
So now we all really like Jerryd Bayless too?
doo da doo
by ireallylikejerrydbayless on Dec 7, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions
best player on the team tonight
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
...who was unceremoniously benched
in favor of steve effing blanky after making ONE turnover as a result of overaggressive driving.
UGH!!!!
I really like Jerryd Bayless
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of Greg Oden.
Honestly, I haven't until recently...
but Bayless seems to finally be figuring out how to balance his tendency to attack with some control, and some better decision making. He’s the only Blazer who isn’t a step (or two, or three) behind. Still commit some silly fouls, but yeah, it can’t possibly be any worse with him out there, so I’m all in favor of really seeing what he can do. It’s a sad day for me when Bayless is the only bright spot on this team.
OK
I’m about ready to jump on the fire everyone except the players bandwagon.
And the sit a few starter bandwagon as well.
What the what? Jeez I’m getting tired of the UGLY.
It was really really strange that bayless was benched
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
My wife, the second year basketball fan, can't figure out
why Bayless doesn’t play more. I don’t know what to tell her. Can you guys help?
My theory is roy doesn't want competition
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
young guards make mistakes, I guess. Nate has never been good with playing young point guards.
get well soon, big guy.
#52
This is basically the answer.
Nate wants his binky…….
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
wondering
wasn’t Nate a young point guard once?
Portland Trail Blazers - where injuries and people come together"
I think I got the flu from watching that game
or maybe I puked for other reasons. (Larry Hughes draining 4 times as many 3s as our whole team)
Message to Blazers - Start Trying, signed your customers
I compare this to 4 years ago (it’s been so long I can hardly remember). ZBo was the man and we’d be getting crushed so bad I’d start yelling – give it to Dickau. Let Dickau shoot.
I’m wondering if season ticket sales will suffer if the blazers continue to play like this. I kept joking to my wife – why don’t I just give the Blazers my money, let them kick me in the b.lls, and call it good.
I know
everyone is on edge but chill out. Geez give the team a break they’re missing 4 big time contributors especially on offense. Give them some time to figure things out.
the problem here is....
The Knicks are the perfect team to try to “figure things our offensively on”
Losing is one thing
Not even looking like they play professional hoops is another.
I don’t know what to say that hasn’t already been said.
They need to bring it for more than a couple minutes. Of course they know that but …..
by Jeffe Portland on Dec 7, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
I think most people (including me) ...
are more upset about the WAY we lost than the loss itself. No energy at all. Looked like we didn’t want to be there. These guys need to remember why they love to play.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
On the coaching thing?
I generally stopped speaking about coaching after BE (for a while) had a lot of users who shouted down any negative comments about Nate. But I’ve felt Nate is at best an average coach, with poor in-game adjustment ability. I’ve felt that way since at least the 32-win season. I’ve had long-time concerns about Nate’s ability to take this team to the next level.
Every once in a while, I’ll pop up and comment on it, but I tend to not talk about it much.
Also, I presume his job is safe for the rest of this year unless the team really falls apart from here.
by Timmay! on Dec 7, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with you, BTW
I am only hear to lighten the mood. Hopefully somebody chews me out soon, and everyone gets a laugh at my expense….
RUDY > MJ
#52
I thought that he was better than people gave him credit for
I now think that his team’s significant, substantial improvement from year to year was the result of young players getting better and excellent front office work. Nothing I have seen from the coaching staff this season — playing time allotment, Miller utilization, Oden incorporation — has imbued me with the confidence that they and Nate can take this team to a championship. We’ve been scouted and I see precious few adjustments.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 7, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
I now think that his team’s significant, substantial improvement from year to year was the result of young players getting better and excellent front office work.
Yeah that’s been my argument for a bit.
Also, the coaching staff helped the team improve, and deserve credit. But I’d expect any coaching staff with the resources of the Blazers behind them to do similar work.
whats the deal with our team?
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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 7, 2009 7:19 PM PST reply actions
Go Ducks!
all i have to look forward to now :(
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
We'll see if they continue to have sellouts...
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Yeah this could have bottom line effects, especially if the team gives the poo poo effort they've been giving
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
id go for free if i didnt have to pay to park either
but i aint going out in this cold
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
I'd take free tickets...
and pay 3 dollars to ride the MAX.
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter," Fernandez said. "He's defense. He's passes. He's assists."
I love the players, I love this team, but....
Something has been seriously missing this year. Some of it is effort. Some of it is houston’s scouting report making it to the rest of the league. Some of it is being a step slower (Roy, miller, Blake and pryzbilla especially). And especially our three point shooting. Something needs to be changed.
#52
Play the players who give effort.
Honestly I believe that would include Blake so maybe it’s not such a good idea.
by Jeffe Portland on Dec 7, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
...you didn't mention coaching...
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
My thoughts?
Play a game where Roy is at point on offense and Bayless works like an off guard.
Get Roy and LMA playing pick and roll again and again.
Dish to Bayless for the late shot. Need Przy & Webster in there with em for defense, hustle & Webster for 3pt range.
Roy has been really inefficient in the early game, so we need to keep working it until he gets it back.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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it might be ok to post the results of the Webster experiment
i dont see a lot of evidence it’s rust anymore as much as just not being a great shooter
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
I am a huge Webster fan
But he hasn’t given us anything lately. I think we need to run a couple of early plays for him to gain some confidence, because he sure isn’t playing with any now.
#52
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 7, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Be that as it may, we don't have a better option than Webster at the moment.
He shot 50% in the last game. Small sample sizes like two games are irrelevant. He has a decent lifetime shooting average, and will likely improve.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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Good point guard = makes other players better. Message to Blake - not the other team's players
Offensive game plan for every team we play: Pass to whoever Blake is guard. Run a pick and roll until Blake goes under the sceen (99% it’s the first one), take advantage of either mismatch.
The team is going to lose more games than we thought because of injuries;
that’s life. But there is no zero not any movement on offense. Players have to at least try.
I give a lot of money to this team. I'm starting to think maybe it should be spent somewhere else.
They are starting to look like a REALLY bad team.
Oden fan for life
this wasn't the way to show the paying fans that this season is going to still be worthwhile
you wonder if the players ever think of these things
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
then again two just got paid... BARF
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
No I was here for that. And I spent A LITTLE money on that team.
But I have season tix now, and spent A LOT on this team.
Oden fan for life
by dario argento on Dec 7, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Thank god I went to the Iona Basketball game
instead of this….. I could care less about my alma mater losing and being there, but if i witnessed this in person, I dunno what I’d do.
he was officially a bust
the day CP3 won his first rookie of the month award with Webby sitting on the bench twiddling his thumbs
What a disastrous pick. There are better players than him on the waiver wire.
This is the first year I bought tickets to multiple games ahead of time.
Yikes. It must be my fault.
I lost a lot of enthusiasm with their initial play, then more when Oden went down.
I thought they’d get psyched and give it their all after that.
Losing interest here….
Man
dunno what can be said that hasn’t been said.
This isn’t the team that I’ve watched for the past three years. I liked watching our 32 win team more than this one…they played their butts off every game.
Nothing is right for the Blazers right now. Their energy is nonexistent; their half-court offense is stagnant and resulting in countless heaves against the clock; their defense is apathetic. The only reason we’ve won games is because we’ve straight up been more talented than the teams we’ve beaten. We still don’t have more than (2? 3?) quality wins this year. When we come up against a playoff-caliber team, we’re getting outworked and outexecuted.
I know that the team bench resembles a MASH unit right now. I know that Greg being out is a significant shock to the system. I know that Nate was at home. But nothing — NOTHING — excuses coming out and laying an absolutely gigantic egg against a team as bad as the Knicks. The Blazers did. not. care. this game. Period. I am so disappointed right now that I don’t even know where to begin.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
Here's the story...
It’s not a mystery how we got here.
First, Roy was a huge part of the reason why the Blazers had a great season last year. And he took the summer off. He swam. He biked. He lost ten pounds. Clearly it wasn’t good. He dropped from about the 7th best player in the league to about the 47th. That’s going to smart a little bit.
Injuries. The Blazers have now lost four of their best six or seven most valuable players, arguably, depending on where you rank Nic and Travis. That too is going to smart a little bit.
When you combine those two things, you’ve got a team that is really no better than the 41-41 squad from two years ago…
If Bayless emerges or Rudy gets healthy, this team may start playing .500 ball again. But it’s not going to happen by magic. Brandon Roy of 08-09 ain’t walking through that door. This is just not a very talented basketball team right now.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
I scoffed at your premise when you were dooming and glooming about B-Roy's offseason regimen
during the offseason and then during training cap. I stand corrected. You hit the nail on the head with your worries about it.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 7, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
Needless to say...
It was a prediction I hoped would be wrong. And I still think Roy’s performance will creep up as the season rolls on.
Hopefully he has some pride and will learn his lesson and bust his butt next summer. The kind of success he experienced last year comes from hard work alone – especially when you’re not the same type of athlete as Bron, Wade, etc…
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
not making the AS team after doing so last season will sting
right now i dont think hes in
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
i dont know what to make of this but i dont think lamarcus is an allstar
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 7, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
D league all-star, perhaps
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
I've been even more disappointed in Aldridge than in Roy
It seems like Roy has at least been trying to find his way…he wants to do the right thing, it just hasn’t been clicking so far this year. To say that LMA has been a shell of his former self is putting it kindly. Remember at the end of last season when he put together that monster stretch of games? Kept scoring in the mid to high twenties with 8-10 boards? Where the hell did that guy go? Has LaMarcus taken over a game this year? Has he even tried?
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 7, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Im still watching, if we keep going like this something will change
We could have used rudy tonight, as well as less baylesslessness
Yeah
Less Baylesslessness.
But can’t we ask for an whole team?
by Jeffe Portland on Dec 7, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
We need Martell to make shots
Roy and LMA will not have room to operate if Martell cannot spread the floor. Portland desperately needs a hot hand when teams are suffocating Roy and LMA, and Martell would be the perfect player to provide that.
I would like to see a starting line up of
Roy,LMA,Joel,JB and Dante vs a fast athletic team like the Hawks,I realize this is a total pipe dream because?
False.
The Bulls coaching staff is far more unimaginative, uncreative, and dumb. VDN is the worst coach in the league right now and it isn’t close.
The Warriors coaching staff is dumber too, although I guess you can’t call them unimaginative what with their 4 guards + Miki Moore lineups that they are liable to throw out at any given moment. The way their treating Anthony Randolph is the Bayless situation x10000000.
I haven’t watched many Blazers game this year. I understand from reading some threads here that the Blazers seem to have regressed in terms of effort and suffer chemistry issues as well as wonky lineups. Another common complaint seems to be a stagnant offense. This is the part that has me confused. From everything I remember reading about last year, the Blazers had perhaps the league’s most efficient offense and one of the weaker defenses but was masked by their extremely slow pace.
Can someone tell me how the offensive schemes have changed since last year? Are they trying to do things differently or is it simply a case of trying to fit new personnel into old roles?
See ya leeroy
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 7, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
I'm out Blazer fans
don’t jump yet. we’re going to win 2 of the last 3 games of this road trip and come home and win two more. even though we look like complete trash, it’s only december! here’s to hoping i’m right
As always, Go blazers
LMA and it is not even close
Dirk is a beast.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 7, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
i know dirka dirka
as sissy as he looks is amazing
Seriously?
Dirk is a first ballot hall of famer.
His fiance was determined to be an interstate felon with eight different identities, and he went out and dropped 38 and 14 in a playoff game the same night.
Dirk is a warrior.
Lamarcus is… not.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
I am shocked -- SHOCKED -- to discover that the Blazers training staff is without a clue
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 7, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rudy needs to stop slouching that mofo didnt have a dad around the house
to tell him to stop being a sissy sloucher? plus he needs to start lifting weights especially squats and deadlifts to strengthen his back. end of story
Agreed
Rudy is way way way too skinny to play in the NBA. And he’s not skinny strong like Tayshaun and Rondo and guys like that. He’s skinny weak. His chest is concave. There should be a mandatory weights clause in his contract. I’m sure he’s one of those guys who grew up thinking weights would kill his touch, and never needed to lift because he just owned dudes in Europe, but this is no league to be 6’5" and 170. (I know he’s listed at something like 185, but that’s crazy.)
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
you've seen Rudy sans shirt/jersey?
ohhhhh the ladies must envy you!
Rudy's back will have more playing time than it knows how to handle if it'll just come back
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 7, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
This pisses me off way more than the loss tonight....
Get a damn doctor in there to diagnose the problem. Being clueless is not an acceptable answer….
RUDY > MJ
#52
because this is obviously true
but apparently this is the same problem he has had since the Ariza foul, more than enough time to diagnose the problem IMO….
RUDY > MJ
#52
Maybe so...
6+ months since the original injury, and it is still a problem? and an undiagnosed problem at that? That spells fail to me. If he was under the Sun’s staff, I would give them the benefit of the doubt, but under portlands medical staff? I have to wonder what is going on….
RUDY > MJ
#52
I'm left perplexed as well.
If this can be traced back to the Ariza hit (which is what the agent said), then there must have been signs of the injury over the summer. And if so, the trainers should have recommended rest for Rudy instead of playing for Spain.
It would be hard not to have doubts about the trainers at the moment.
trainers
Nic had his shoulder problems last year..mid season…they let him keep playing….and then let him play in Euro during the summer….then let him go back after blessing him okay after his injury during play in the summer….then is out for the season….why did anyone let this go on so long?
Portland Trail Blazers - where injuries and people come together"
I envision the blazers medical staff looking at the MRIs and suddenly having an epiphany:
“oh man, I get it. it’s called his “back” because it is actually in back of the rest of his body.
that’s awesome. i wonder else works like that. is there reason why that thing in the middle of the leg is called a knee? I’m headed to powells to pick up some books on body naming stuff"
dinasour type of guys choir boys
Watching Aldridge try to score in the first quarter was pathetic
He keeps trying those really tough fade away shots that seem to fall about 10% of the time. Our early game strategy of banging it into Aldridge does not work unless he takes it inside and draws the defense in.
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter," Fernandez said. "He's defense. He's passes. He's assists."
LMA has been really bad this year at getting anything easy
my jaw almost dropped when he got that offensive rebound and got fouled on the putback attempt in the first quarter. A brief glimmer of the old LMA.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Dec 7, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Brandon Roy Avging 25PPG last 5 games
we are 1-4 in those games
We are one in four because Roy can't hit in the first three quarters.
4 for 14 is terrible to start the game.
And that has been his plan lately.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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I'm out
I did my best to bring sunshine, but I failed in the long run.
Blazers beat Pacers by 52. Write that down….
RUDY > MJ
#52
Not this year.
Even when winning we rarely looked good. The one game where we ran against the Wolves was really the only time I’ve been excited about the team this year. Night and day from last season.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
i see what you mean definitely.
rudy’’s full name is rudolfo??
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 7, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Man. Lots of negativity tonight.
Have to say I’m not feeling any better. I hope this is the low for the year. So far in the last few games we’ve been blown out by the Warriors, the Grizzlies, the Jazz, and the Knicks. Not a great day to be a Blazer fan.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
We will be aight...
“In prosperity, our friends know us; in adversity, we know our friends.”
RUDY > MJ
#52
Multiple sources in the NBA have told me that Jerryd Bayless seems to be the most available player on Portland’s roster. A couple of sources indicated over the weekend that Bayless has asked the team to trade him, because of his lack of playing time. I wouldn’t blame him — young players want, and need, to play. And if he wants out, the team should try to accommodate him. Dwight Jaynes
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
Here it is again, in case you missed it...
Here’s the story…
It’s not a mystery how we got here.
First, Roy was a huge part of the reason why the Blazers had a great season last year. And he took the summer off. He swam. He biked. He lost ten pounds. Clearly it wasn’t good. He dropped from about the 7th best player in the league to about the 47th. That’s going to smart a little bit.
Injuries. The Blazers have now lost four of their best six or seven most valuable players, arguably, depending on where you rank Nic and Travis. That too is going to smart a little bit.
When you combine those two things, you’ve got a team that is really no better than the 41-41 squad from two years ago…
If Bayless emerges or Rudy gets healthy, this team may start playing .500 ball again. But it’s not going to happen by magic. Brandon Roy of 08-09 ain’t walking through that door. This is just not a very talented basketball team right now.
by KP Corleone on Dec 7, 2009 7:28 PM PST
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
fantastic summary
KP Corleone had the Roy thing identified as a concern WAY before most BEdgers. Kudos.
#52
Eben Calder
would be an informative interesting read about now.
"Pickin' up the pieces of my sweet shattered dream, I wonder how the old folks are tonight."
by RandyinParadise on Dec 7, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
I believed in Roy’s claims that last year his body didn’t feel right, and that he wanted to do everything to be lighter. Remember MB’s article about optimizing his shoes in that regard, dropping the weight by doing cardio training, etc. He now has stated several times that he absolutely does not see himself as a SF, but wants to play the SG position. But even for that he seems to be a bit off right now.
Disagree with 99% of everything above.
We’re a good team that is playing badly and has suffered a devastating string of injuries.
Readjust your expectations or check back next year.
I think a lot of major problems are coming to light though.
Things that need to be fixed before we can say we are true contenders.
#52
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