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Could it be our fault?


By "us" I mean Blazer fandom as a whole, not BEdgers, journalists, or anyone in particuilar.  If this doesn't apply to you, then it doesn't apply to you--don't take it as a criticism in this case.

But last year, after Oden suffered the chipped patella courtesy of Corey Maggette, there were a whole lot people calling for him to "man up" and play.  The injury was dismissed as, in the immortal words of the Black Knight, "just a flesh wound", and Oden's desire and heart were questioned by many quarters.  A few moronic radio dudes engaged in all sorts of rumor-mongering about dope, wimmen, and parties, and Greg was being discussed as though he were Chris Washburn or Roy Tarpley.

In some cases, this may have been motivated by people terrified that the critics making the S** B***e comparisons were right--wanting you to play Willis Reed and prove 'em all wrong.

It may well have been that the injury was more serious than any of us (including possibly the doctors) thought, and now the consequences are here.  It takes a violent injury to chip a bone, and perhaps there was structural damage to the rest of the patella, that weakened it, with the result that the stress of pro basketball has led do the current injury.  We all hope the docs can fix it right this time--the good thing about bones is they heal well, and can be mechanically reinforced if necessary.

I want to be the first to say--take your time, Greg.  Listen to your body.  Come back when you are ready, not before.  Don't let anyone who sits behind a desk for a living tell you that you need to "man up"; you've shown that you're tough enough already.  Don't let anyone who yaks into a microphone question your heart.

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Its nobody's fault

but I do agree with you in that Greg should take his time. He should wait till doctors OK it AND he feels like he OK to start playing again.

When the Blazers play bad I don't like them less... I like Blazers Edge less.

by In Walks Rudy on Dec 6, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

Of course, I’m not a doctor, and until there is something definitive that says they are related I can’t make this leap. But after watching Martell come back from an injury too soon last year and re-aggravate it, and a pattern of injuries turning out to be significantly worse than the brass let on initially, the Blazers really should look into the way they are doing things when it comes to medical treatment and injury prevention measures. And while I know it won’t happen, I really don’t want to hear “Bobby Medina, the best in the business” over the airwaves for a looooooooooooooong time.

Always supporting Greg Oden.

by blazeraddict on Dec 6, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

He's the trainer

Just a little snark – these seem like freak injuries, but I’d still say it’s worth looking at what, if anything, the medical staff could be doing differently from prevention to treatment.

Always supporting Greg Oden.

by blazeraddict on Dec 6, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Best thoughts on this subject - from Krang
If it was related to his previous injury against Golden State then Epic Fail of Blazer medical staff. Hindsight is 20/20 but shouldn’t of follow up MRI’s been done to the knee-cap to assure it was healing alright? If it was a minor injury that was allowed to become a major injury…which it now is…then our medical staff needs to be re-evaluated.

  But I’m not going to go down that road because I don’t know. Perhaps such MRI’s and X-Rays were taken. It easily could of been something that happened and simply was not released to the public. If you check Odens Knee and it appears Okay, is that going to make news?

Spot on

Always supporting Greg Oden.

by blazeraddict on Dec 6, 2009 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

I think if it had something to do with last years injury to Odens knee, he would of re-injured it right after he came back.

Oden was more heavy last season, I just think its one of those freak injuries. Look Web came back from the injury and hurt himself right away, that was realated. Since Golden State injury its close to 1 year now.

And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.

by RipCity on Dec 6, 2009 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

from descriptions of causes of this type of injury

I don’t really think weight is the issue. It has more to do with the action of the muscles against the patella

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

i have to imagine...

that when he hurt the kneecap against gs that all possible x-rays / mri’s / tests etc. were run. if there were a hairline fracture or something similar at that time i suspect it would have been seen.

by colinmarsh on Dec 6, 2009 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

Yes However...

   Even if everything Engineer Scotty is saying is true, the primary responsibilty is with the medical staff. It’s up to the doctors and specialists to evaluate and communicate correctly the reality. If Odens pattela was damaged more than thought or reported the only fault would be with medical staff in NOT finding that out and not communicating that to our franchise. Since I have no behind the scenes access to what was done, said, or evaluated about Oden and his patella a year ago why should I place blame on anyone? I’d really assume that they did look at Odens Patella closely last year. I’m also relatively sure that the ultimate choice to have him play wasn’t influenced by Radio Personalities or even the ravings or rationalizations of a fanbase.

  No it’s just tragic. But trying to quantify last nights injury with a connection to last years bone chip? Unless a Medical Specialist can tell me Yes, that is what happened or even that it was likely that was what happened than I just have to assume Oden was given the proper advice and attention.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Dec 6, 2009 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

The team’s woes this year are hopefully serving as, "teachable moments," for all concerned.

We are going to be a stronger team next year as a result of this years problems and confusion. We may have burned another year, but, even so, management should have learned a lot more about the team’s deficiencies. The main question that I have is whether or not both the players and the management team are ready accept what may be some harsh realities about the changes that are necessary.

My main individual hope for Greg is that this will serve as proof to him that he should be just as strong, but playing at a lighter weight. Nutrition, calories, and désire. I agree with Nate about the 260-265 pound goal for Greg’s weight.

Any additional accomplishments this year are just frosting on the cake. And I for one am going to sit back, relax, and enjoy!

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by KINGofMACct on Dec 6, 2009 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

We blame everything on Steve so why not this?

If Brooks didn’t blow by him, then Oden wouldn’t have had to contest that floater and he wouldnt have got injured.

Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!

by axel360 on Dec 6, 2009 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

even though if blake stayed with brooks, it would have just delayed the inevitable

Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!

by axel360 on Dec 6, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Next summer, Vulcan, Inc. should strongly evaluate whether or not to retain the Trail Blazers training and ...

medical staffs.

Dear Paul Allen:

Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Dec 6, 2009 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know about blaming anyone but

Would like to see it a priority to do everything possible in the way of analysis, p.t. etc. Figure out what if anything is causing Greg’s leg injuries and see that we minimize the possibility of a repeat. As far as the organization and Greg are concerned, his health should come first.

by jiminut on Dec 7, 2009 8:53 AM PST reply actions  

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