Breaking News: Greg Oden Leaves Game on Stretcher with Fractured Left Patella; "Likely Out For Season"
by Ben Golliver on Dec 5, 2009 10:41 PM PST
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Original Post: 7:29PM
At the 7:45 mark of the first quarter of tonight's Blazers vs. Rockets game, Blazers center Greg Oden injured his left knee while contesting a runner by Rockets guard Aaron Brooks. Oden came to the ground clutching his left knee and was writhing in pain.
Immediately Rockets training staff came to Oden's attention and, soon after, Blazers staff, including Blazers' team doctor, Doctor Roberts, came to his side. A towel was used to cushion his head against the court floor. The Rose Garden crowd briefly chanted "Oden! Oden!" in support but then came to a quiet hush as Oden continued to lay on the ground.
The Blazers took a full timeout and a stretcher was called in to transport Oden off the court. Joel Przybilla replaced Oden in the game.
Oden had microfracture surgery on his right knee that caused him to miss the 2007-2008 season. Again, the injury tonight was suffered on his left knee.
(Photo: Ben Golliver / Blazersedge)
Update (7:31PM): Oden is in the Blazers locker room. Further information should be available shortly.
Update (7:52PM): Brian T. Smith of The Columbian just told me that, according to two sources close to the situation, Greg Oden has been taken to the Rebound Clinic and will undergo an MRI on his left knee. Here's a link to Smith's blog. Give it a click in appreciation of that information.
Update (8:14PM): Joe Freeman of The Oregonian has posted an update that includes another picture of Oden taken by Bruce Ely.
Update (8:17PM): Jeff Green of the Oklahoma City "Thunder" passes along his well wishes.
Can everyone say a prayer for my boy Greg Oden and hope he has a speedy recovery please THANK YOU
John Hollinger tweets...
Courtside photog just showed me close-up of Oden kneecap twisted way off to right side. Looks like either a dislocated kneecap or torn quad
I've seen similar pictures. I don't want to speculate but it did look gruesome.
Update (8:23pm): The Blazers have informed the media assembled in the Rose Garden that an MRI revealed that Greg Oden suffered a fractured left patella and is "likely out for the season." Blazers General Manager Kevin Pritchard will address the media after the game.
Update (8:44PM): Kevin Pelton writes...
I've got an e-mail in to Prospectus injury expert Will Carroll for more, but I found one other NBA player who suffered a fractured patella-then-Washington Wizards forward Jarvis Hayes, who was injured in late December 2005. Hayes did not apparently initially undergo surgery, but then had the procedure in mid-February 2006 when the patella failed to respond to non-surgical treatment. He missed the remainder of the season, but returned to play 163 out of a possible 164 games the following two seasons.
Update (8:48PM): Here's a link to video of the injury courtesy of The Big Lead. Watch the video below.
CAUTION: Video is extremely graphic.
Update (8:59 PM): Two tweets that might get your blood going...
John Canzano writes...
Oden gone... pass the beer nuts
Adrian Wojnarowski writes...
For all the bows taken in Portland, Kevin Pritchard's legacy will likely be reduced to this: He picked the wrong player in the '07 Draft.
Although, he does add...
It's all sad and unfortunate for Oden, who doesn't deserve this. He's a real gentleman.
Bill Simmons shows some class...
So sorry Rip City. Sad night.
Update (9:20PM): Matt Moore on Hardwood Paroxysm has some links to more information about the injury.
Update (9:26PM): ESPN's Andy Katz tweets...
I've covered countless players in 20-plus years in journalism. Greg Oden is one of the best. Feel awful for him getting hurt again.
Update (9:33PM):
Here's a larger picture of the injury, courtesy of Sabian404 and Blaze of Love on Twitter. Caution: This image is gruesome
Update (9:37PM):
From the Blazers official twitter feed.
Oden: "I'm obviously disappointed having worked so hard to get to where I was," said Greg Oden. " This is a setback, but I'll be back.
Oden: "It's in God's hands now. I want to thank the fans, my teammates and everyone in the Blazers family for all of their good thoughts."
Update (10:41PM):
Read Dave's take on the situation here.
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say goodbye
to the window buys
[insert witty nomenclature and/or out of context quote from someone that makes more money than I]
by HallelujahHoeDown on Dec 5, 2009 7:31 PM PST reply actions
I guess Houston never forgave us for Dikembe....
Life is hilarious.
by SolGoode on Dec 5, 2009 7:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
There are no words...
just emptiness…
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Dec 5, 2009 7:33 PM PST reply actions
I truly feel like someone died
The worst part was seeing the expression on Greg’s face.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
But mainly I'm thinking about Greg Oden
What a true nightmare for him. Just when he’d thought the nightmare was behind him, now it’s gonna be back two-fold. All the “bust talk,” etc.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
John Wall
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
^
yarrrrr
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by HallelujahHoeDown on Dec 6, 2009 3:22 AM PST up reply actions
The moment I have been waiting for.
Oden clearly has underlying problems with his postural alignment(legs). Another injury was inevitable. I hope the blazers find the right experts to fix this. He may never need another surgery, but he needs the right therapy! Pilates is not in Blazers Management!
Please don’t tear this guy up with another surgery, theres options out there. I have posted on them please pay attention! You can tel lfrom the hitch and the way he has to turn his toes in to generate the power to jump. It’s not natural and pop-goes-the-knee. Wake up!
Prayers to you Greg you are going to be alright!
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
It's possible you're right--there was no twisting or contact on that pay
If anything, the right knee got twisted.
But hello: that knee will need surgery of some kind. He may well have blown an ACL—even, more dreaded, a PCR.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Yeah, read my post below. He turns his toes in to generate power. Not natural.
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
Wow, what a joke of a comment.
The moment I have been waiting for.
Really? You’ve been waiting for this?
Oden clearly has underlying problems with his postural alignment (legs).
Thanks for informing us.
Please don’t tear this guy up with another surgery, theres options out there.
You don’t say?
I have posted on them please pay attention!
Sure thing. You’re the guy I go to for my injury advice.
Prayers to you Greg you are going to be alright!
Actually, if everything you say is true, he probably won’t be.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Dec 5, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
What is the joke is your lack of vision
and while having not trying to get a solution, you jump in the way of people who are trying. You are the exact type of thinker that could put him in a state of not playing again. Too stupid to know there could be other options in this world available to him than the standard.
I stated I had been waiting for this moment because it is clear his body is out of alignment and an injury with him is a ticking time-bomb. I have had great interest in the kid and I see an opportunity for management to try an alternate approach that tearing his body apart, gluing it back together and hoping he comes back stronger. As you can see it did not work the first time. Be smarter the second.
Thanks for you input, it was great in the name of progress.
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
by loyal_blazer on Dec 5, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The whole "alignment" thing is totally a chiropractic doctrine thing
Don’t get me wrong, I’d have no issue at all with your observations about his posture and so on. There’s a place for that, particularly in preventive health.
But for someone to say surgery was unnecessary without hearing word one about the MRI result, for example? Pretty much marks you out as some sort of True Believer. If Oden’s ACL is out, for example, all the “re-alignment” in the world isn’t going to help. That’s doctrine talking, not responsible sense.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
What point are you trying to make by mocking someone else?
You failed… whatever it was.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
by Seijeff on Dec 5, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My point is that had we been willing to wait literally 54 minutes, we'd have a much clearer picture of what we were looking at.
Trying to play doctor is a fool’s errand. Trying to pretend that we know what’s best for an athlete, in either a preventative sense or in a rehab sense is posturing plain and simple and isn’t worth the bandwidth it takes up.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Dec 5, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Fine then.
Your second attempt at making that point was a lot more coherrent and useful.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Pilates?
“Pilates is not in Blazers Management!”
I don’t get what you are saying here? Are you saying he should be doing it or are you saying that the time GO spends doing it is bad for him?
this just isn't cool
get well greg, ppl all over the league have to feel bad about this. The guy does nothing but work hard and this is what he gets, greg you deserve much better
I'm just coolin'
http://bedgewiki.blogspot.com/
Could somebody post details
I don’t have comcast or a radio! I’m not sure what happened. How bad is he hurt?
whaa happen?
They don't bring out a stretcher for a sprain.
I hate to hypothesize so negatively, but anything less than out for the season would be a pleasant suprise at this point.
I suspect they were sure the moment they looked at the knee
See how they covered Greg’s eyes so he wouldn’t see it?
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
also covered the knee
before they did though, you could see a bulge just below the kneecap
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Exactly. A 7-footer down is always "ain't sure," too
We can’t tell about these things from this distance.
I’m a Wolves fan first. Last year when Al Jefferson blew his ACL, he just landed funny at the very close of a game against N’Awlins. It definitely looked sensitive, he was on one leg and couldn’t have finished the night, but Big Al thought it was a sprain overnight. Then the inflammation around the tendon stiffened up as it does, and tests showed the tear.
You gotta wait a day or two, here, to know. Fingers crossed. I hate injuries.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
Sorry to say it, but that had season-ending all over it from the moment he hit the ground
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
It was really ugly, he jumped in the air, and was grabbing at his left knee before he hit the ground
It didn’t look like he even had a knee cap, it was gross
A dislocated patella
wouldn’t necessarily be the end of the world, or the season. Patellar subluxation by itself isn’t necessarily a long-term thing. Some people have it and don’t notice. Not basketball players, mind….
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
Dislocation, IMO
It really didn’t look bad: no collision, no anything. Brooks was driving (predictably). Oden swung from one side of the key to the other to contest the shot. Brooks’s shot was actually beautiful in getting it high off the glass and in. I watched the shot go in because I thought Greg just fell trying to avoid the foul.
In replay, the cameraman got a good shot of the knee and it didn’t look right. I’m looking at a still shot of his left knee when he first hits the ground and it looks like a crater in between his two bones. That’s why I think dislocation.
Too much force at too much of an angle. Really bad luck.
Buck Williams for the hall of fame
I love you Greg.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Dec 5, 2009 7:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Oden IS our son!
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
All doom and gloom aside
I think the way that the Houston staff handles the situation was outstanding. I big thanks goes out to them for their response as the injury occurred in front of their bench. Get well soon Greg.
What are you impressions of Roy?
"He's just a very, very good basketball player. Very smart. Very heady. He can do a little bit of everything on the court. As coaches, when we scout Portland we kind of put him in the same category as Kobe (Bryant), LeBron (James), Dwyane Wade. We treat him the same. He's that good."
- Byron Scott
by CMCWizard on Dec 5, 2009 7:36 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Houston's staff is unfortunately used to this kind of thing
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
It all stems from one log being longer than the other. He is always walking, running and jumping on stair.
It’s not a natural way for his body, muscles, bones, tendons to move. Thats why things break and wear down.
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
if is a dislocated kneecap it might not be that bad, fingers crossed!
by pdxblaze on Dec 5, 2009 7:37 PM PST via mobile reply actions
That's what I am thinking, but hopefully it sends a message to the Blazers staff
He is better when he is fluid out there. They have much more hunting to do when it comes to fixing Greg Oden. They CAN do it though, but they have to be outside the box on this one.
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
I think a dislocated knee cap usually means torn ligaments--even the dreaded posterior cruciate
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Not necessarily, Bynum had that last year when Kobe rolled into him
Ceterum censeo Lakers esse delendam
Bynum had a "subluxation"
(popped out and then popped in again) the year before last
last season was a torn mcl(grade III strain)
hopefully Oden can return this season.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
i'm hoping it's just a subluxation at this point
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
It's on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stYZMOvFGcA
I prayed. God didn't listen. Game 7 2000 Western Conference Finals
Worthless video. Doesn't show a thing.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Dec 5, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
it shows his knee cap
completely unattached from the bone, or at least that is what i saw
I'm just coolin'
http://bedgewiki.blogspot.com/
by HD on Dec 5, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
...your kneecap is a bone.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
not really worth time arguing with you
but it’s for people like me in Los angeles who can’t watch the game.
I prayed. God didn't listen. Game 7 2000 Western Conference Finals
This team is gonna drive me to be a alcoholic
Odenized
by CroRupt on Dec 5, 2009 7:37 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
i'll drink to that
When the Blazers play bad I don't like them less... I like Blazers Edge less.
by In Walks Rudy on Dec 5, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
i would've drinken more but tthe blazers won
I will throw my mouthpiece across the court if I disagree with you.
by SabasforThree on Dec 5, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
Watching the replay, what could it have been?
He didn’t seem to land on it awkwardly, and he didn’t bang it on someone else’s knee. Any ideas?
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Dec 5, 2009 7:38 PM PST reply actions
Just teh way he jumps tells the story. Because his body is out of alignment, he has to turn fit in to one another to jump and generate power.
Its not a natural position for the body to make a power mood. Only a matter of time for that knee to pop out.
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
Or it's the microfracture procedure itself destablizing the knee
There’s no substitute for real cartilage.
We can speculate all day.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Microfracture procedures now magically move from one knee to the other. But, it takes about 16 months.
I’d absolutely love for people to stop pretending they were one of the best 100 athletic trainers in the world.
(Note, this isn’t Blazer fans specific, just a general note about injuries in general.)
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Dec 5, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
Other knee?
Never mind. We’re just grasping for straws,here, trying to understand. Most of our theories will be half-baked.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
The point is, what causes a microfracture to be needed in the first place?
None of us know for certain what is causing all of this, but hopefully Blazers management goes with the modern aproach of medicine and find the cause instead of treating the symptom.
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
My Heart Is Broken For Him.
He worked SO hard. I just hope he’s ok and he can keep his spirits up.
I’ll Pray For You Greg.
He was just starting to really get going.
Man I hope it’s just some tweek that hurt and he’ll be back in a few minutes ,…… hope hope hope hope …
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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by Y5k on Dec 5, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
devastating. I missed the injury but immediately figured out somethig was seriously wrong, just by the Mikes reactions.
I don’t even know what to say.
Draft Ryan Wittman
I just feel awful for Oden
After he had conquered, or seemingly so, the doubt and anger at himself for being hurt before…
In the old Walton-era jerseys, no less.
Man…
Postive energy going your way Greg.
Get well soon!
I feel my heart sinking into mystomach watching him on the ground. He doesn’t deserve this.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
After all of his hard work
he doesn’t deserve this at all. Seems to be the overall sentiment. Get well soon, Greg.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Dec 5, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
sad
I am at the RG…I feel so sad for Greg. He is such a great human being. I truly hope everyone will be kind. I’m sure he feels worse than anyone of us. Win the game for GO!!
by debra31098 on Dec 5, 2009 7:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
My wife is a surgeon and wonders if he didn't somehow fracture the leg by the pain that he was demonstrating
"whoever scores the most points is probably gonna win the game"
Yes, I tore my ACL and it didn't hurt like that--at least not as I recall
The speculation is that he dislocated the knee cap…
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
well hopefully he was just very scared and it's not serious
like when rookie Jermaine popped his knee out but missed little time or when Paul Pierce felt a “pop” in game 1 of the NBA finals, writhed in agony, was carried out, and came back to hit some bombs.
Let’s hope for that!
but yeah…it doesn’t look good, does it?:’X
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 5, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
it wasnt good. but it didn't look like he landed on it and he almost certainly did not fracture it. he grabbed his knee before he landed and had minimal
air contact with that leg. I think he more likely has a ligament injury or dislocation
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
looked to me like a dislocation of the kneecap
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
I could accept B-roy or LMA going down and dooming the season
But not Greg after all he’s been thru. What a stomach-turning event.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
thanks ben, do you have a photo of the knee?
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
as I said below ... excellent work, Ben.
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Year5000
by Y5k on Dec 5, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
It's all just useless conjecture at this point...
What we do know is that this is BAD for the Blazers but worse for Greg…
and it kind of all goes into perspective a bit when they show Paul Allen, wearing a hat to cover the results of his chemo treatments, who is basically fighting for his life….
You just have to feel overall AWFUL about all of it right now…
"whoever scores the most points is probably gonna win the game"
Yeah, the shot of Allen just made it more horrible
What does this do for HIS morale. I felt doubly terrible, seeing Allen’s face.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
yeah. I was thinking that but
his survival gives perspective.
Oden will have a positive impact with his life because of his heart and vitality. he’s a good kid.
I’m bummed but it is—-after all—-just a game when compared to what Paul is going through….
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 5, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
There's a reason for which,
when players and league insiders talk to each other, they pretty often say “Stay healthy” as a substitute for saying goodbye at the end of the conversation.
Injuries suck.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
This isn’t a time for “I told you sos”. Just hope that he’s okay.
Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.
by damir on Dec 5, 2009 7:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I can't even watch basketball right now
the poor kid
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this ice pack has no silver lining.
it sucks. it just plain sucks.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 5, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions
In the encyclopaedia entry for "sucks", they should put this event
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
group hug?
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 5, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not going back to watching a year of Roy and LaMarcus isos with zero offensive production from centre and stifled spacing and ball movement.
It's a tune-out fest.
Roy and LaMarcus will get it going, but they won't be learning to play with a big man.
Then we’ll have to go through this adjustment period all over.
Draft Ryan Wittman
I hope Roy gets why Oden is so important while he is missing.
Then we can spend a few weeks force feeding Oden.
It's a tune-out fest.
bad acid?
i just either had a really bad flashback or damned if i just didn’t see that kid go out on a stretcher… again…
i hate this for him. more worried about his psychological than his physical at this point…. hopefully just a sprain…
this a nightmare.
I always held out hope for this struggling season because Greg was healthy and playing great.
My heart just broke. This can’t be happening. Not Greg…..there’s just no words for this situation.
2012
Excellent work getting that photo, ben. excellent work
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Year5000
This isn't fair.
Greg didn’t deserve this.
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
Is life fair?
He has been the subject of an unfortunate set of injuries and circumstances. He’s a strong man. He’ll recover and be back. But this is indeed a rough moment for him and for the team.
by Seven06Renault on Dec 5, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
This is depressing, But there is a bright side to this
This up coming draft is considerd to be very deep; So worst case scenerio is we get a decent draft pick. Also, Chris Bosh is more than likely available. If we gave a package of Aldridge, Webster, and Howard. I think we could land Bosh. It would be worth giving up Aldridge in my opinion.
seriously?
that’s your bright side?
I prayed. God didn't listen. Game 7 2000 Western Conference Finals
actually worse case scenario is we narrowly miss the playoffs (or make it) and have a long summer without a good pick..
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
besides, thats like saying well it scks that ghandi died but u know, that means there's more food out there for those starving children in asia.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
lol
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
please stop.
show some respect.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 5, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Why does this make me MORE depressed?
“Bright side?” Uh, that’s a human being that’s going thru a nightmare right now. Besides, 5 Chris Boshes won’t replace what GO was turning into.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Terrible
I decide to watch the game to see what’s up with the Blazers and no GO. When I start the stream, no Greg. Think he’s already got 2 fouls… then hear the announcers start talking about stretchers.
Wow.
Greg doesn’t deserve this. Hope the injury is minor and he gets back on the court soon.
On a different note, the Houston staff definitely showed class going by what Ben reported.
Not square one
It’s times like this that we need to have hope and faith in his ability to recover, in his luck that it isn’t a horrific injury (I mean career-threatening), and in his hunger to come back and show his talent.
by Seven06Renault on Dec 5, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Laker fan here....
That did not look good at all for Greg. It reminded me alot of Andrew Bynum’s first injury where his knee cap just totally buckled underneath him. Hopefully hes gonna be okay because I really wanted to see these two young big man goin at it. Greg, you got my condolences
by desecrator93 on Dec 5, 2009 7:55 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
thanks dawg
that’s classy.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 5, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
anytime man
Hes still young, so he should be able to recover from this faster then you might think
just rocking back and forth on the couch
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
Greg Oden needs professional healthcare, experts.
Something is up with his body and it’s not being addressed.
It's a tune-out fest.
see
I wanna say that too, but it’s so hard to tell for me. I mean, as a part of a professional team, isn’t that what he’s getting right now?
I prayed. God didn't listen. Game 7 2000 Western Conference Finals
No way to tell for sure.
Check out Postural Alignment Therapy. They believe one leg longer than the other is a farce and can fix things like this.
Oden is playing on steps and instead of fixing or helping this underlying problem, he is getting cut open and glued back together.
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
This has been my point for a LONG time
I have done Fan Posts on it in the past. I have seen an injury as inevitable. Just watching him play. If you want him jump, he turns his toes in to generate power. That knee popped out because he has to do an unnatural power movement.
I am of the school of thought the cause and not the symptom is treated. I want the Blazers management to find the CAUSE.
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
I doubt it's the leg length issue
My physical therapist (highly regarded) told me that almost everyone has one leg longer than the other. I do myself, and I never had knee issues until I jacknifed my knee on someone else’s. I was told that with proper orthotics—which GO no doubt uses—this is a non-issue.
I’ve had my reservations about the Blazers medical staff, but come on: they’re not idiots.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
He's averaging 12.1 rebounds a game
after I heard that I spent about 5 minutes trying to figure out how he’s doing that and if he could do it for a whole season.
Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.
by terryisntbald on Dec 5, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
On the replay it looked to me like he twisted the knee.
I’m hoping that it was just pain from twisting it and not some major damage to the knee.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Aw man
Just watched the youtube video. As a Lakers fan this is bringing back memories of Bynum’s second injury at Memphis. I nearly cried that day.
God injuries suck.
Get well soon Greg. And I feel for Blazer fans, hope you guys get to hear some good news soon as well.
by Worthy J. on Dec 5, 2009 8:01 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Sorry to hear
best wishes to Mr. Oden
hopefully its not serious and he can return soon…
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
RTjohnhollinger @johnhollinger Irony: Blazers are having 70s night tonight with throwback unis. I don't think they planned on having star center get injured as part of it.
Awful tweet Hollinger. Awful.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Wow.
Do the ESPN guys take a class in disrespectful, pithy one-liners? I liked Hollinger until I read this…
"whoever scores the most points is probably gonna win the game"
be back before the laker game
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
yes please
And I’m a Laker fan too. REally wanted to see Greg and Drew go at it.
that injury reminded me alot of Drew's first injury
Hopefully hes alright. I love the way he hussles and always plays hard
Kings fan here
hope it’s not season ending. Love your boy!
"I make love to pressure" - Stephen Jackson
thanks man
I’m pretty bummed. I hope he’s ok too.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 5, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
From Brian T. Smith's blog
Update: (8:02 p.m.) Oden has been brought to the Rebound Orthopedic facility, according to a Rose Garden medical staff member.
Trying to identify
what just happened.
Stomach tight; head faint; eyes crossing, hurting and itchy,; mouth dry.
What?
What year is it? Gorundhog Day again?
I need to puke.
Please Bayless, give us some hope. Paragraph back when?
uggh. I’m getting mad now!
Wishing you well Greg.
it won’t be the same without you.
Greg Oden is the BlazersEdge; come back soon.
I'm praying for Greg
I’m not the type to say “I’ll pray for you” so this means a lot. Greg Oden deserves the best of life. I get nothing but good impressions from him.
I can't help but think about Big Z right now
it’s looking more and more like Greg will have a career curve like Big Z’s
Please get well soon Greg.
"You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless! You gotta hope even more, and cover your ears and go 'bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla!'"
Just a heads up to all our visitors...
Super appreciate the warm wishes! but please try to avoid language on the site, per our community guidelines. :-)
Gracias!
lol
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
ugh
condolences, blazer fans. this really, really sucks, for a number of reasons. bad news.
by museum on Dec 5, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thank-you.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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I am very touched to see all the support from people from the other SB sites…I dread the media frenzy with this injury and feel so soo bad for Greg. This is really devastating and I hope fans can overcome the ‘durant’ comparison and the BS we’ll have to deal with. Get well soon big guy, you are our son, we love you and wish you the best.
Best wishes to Greg.
This young man has worked so hard, gone through many physical setbacks, some harsh emotional ones, carried the weight of a city on his shoulders, listened to the media take a crap on him at so many turns, and he kept on trucking.
He’s never stopped playing hard, hasn’t complained about things, is our best defender and covers his teammates, and is just a real player. Nice guys always finish last, and Greg is one of the nicest and fate just hates him.
You don’t deserve this Greg, and I hope for the best possible scenario and recovery for you. I hope some of the media are able to pass along to Greg through the Blazers some of these well wishes from fans all over the internet and in the state.
Oden is done....
I feel so bad for the dude…. It couldnt happer to a better guy… He really seemed to be turning the corner.. And now this , a major, major setback…
We can hope for the best… but you just have to expect the worst with this… He had to get carted off in a stretcher.. this is no sprain… this is a blowout
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
Rewatched the video, it looks like the knee (cap) split in half. There are two bulges on the knee. I hope that's how a cleanly dislocated kneecap looks like. But obviously I'm no orthopedic surgeon :) or rather :(
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two words.......
Shaun Livingston
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
look at this picture
http://media.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/photo/greg-odenjpg-b860a6ea32e477ae.jpg
the kneecap is off to the side.
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
I have another one here
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2374/odenknee.jpg
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the fact that his leg is bent
and he clearly cant straighten it is certainly not a good sign…a knee cap dislocation is tough to swallow and often times looks a lot worse than the injury actually is…but you cant help but expect and fear the worst :-(
Thats EXACTLY how Bynum's knee looked on his first injury
Hopefully its not as bad as that
Its also how Shaun Livingstons looked...
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
yeah but Livingstons was prolly worse
His kneecap was completely busted into pieces. Looks like Greg’s is only in 2 pieces….
Livingstons was far worse
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
Either way....
the season is in the books for Oden…. and a longgggg rehab stint again
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
I pray that
it isnt
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
if it was simply a dislocated knee cap
he’d be back in 2-3 months
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
If you love the NBA
this hurts deeply. you always hate to see players who have so much promise and have put in the work experience repeated setbacks. hopefully GO can make a full recovery, whatever the diagnosis.
this is so rotten for the NBA its ridiculous. sorry much portland.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
W/L record, playoffs, etc, right now don't mean anything in this down moment after the injury
I just want our team to be together. And, I want Oden healthy for himself, not for us.
We know he cares a lot, so it’s painful to think about him going through another lengthy rehab.
by Mortimer on Dec 5, 2009 8:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
If GO is out for the season, I'm not sure I'll watch another game
The joy of this season was watching GO putting all that crap behind him. That allowed me to endure (easily) all the soft, lackluster play, the emergence of contract issues, & selfishness, etc.
Without GO in the mix, my heart won’t be in it.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Yeah you will
It sucks now, but this too will pass.
I blame Comcast.
They didn’t black this game out for some reason. Made me watch it.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 5, 2009 8:18 PM PST reply actions
definitely don't feel better this morning. I hate that I still feel this way.
I can only imagine how Greg feels. I hope he’s in good spirits and knows we are behind him 100%.
Season ender fractured knee
Those four faces on Mount Rushmore are always there to remind us that yes, if you do enough good deeds, you will change into a mountain when you die.
fractured left patella
out for season
"The two things you've got to do to give yourself a chance to win games. One, you've got to shoot the ball. Second thing, we've got to play defense."
- Nate McMillan
fractured patella. likely done for the year
per Ben on twitter
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I can't believe that.
That is terrible news.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 5, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
that's so insanely unlucky it's unreal
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
Ignorance here
But in my narrow personal experience (ACL rupture), ligament damage bad, bone fractures not so bad. Of course, we saw otherwise with Martell’s little foot bone last year…
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
I don't know why, I can't reply to posts.
Just refreshed. Lets see if this works.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
I...
I gotta stop following the team for a while I think. The only thing I was truly enjoying was the dominance of Oden.
This literally makes me sick to my stomach. Best of luck to Greg.
This is absolutely horrid. I can't think of a guy in the NBA that deserves this less.
I’ll be doing my “Oden minutes” this week.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
Why?
"I don't know Twitter" - Rudy Fernandez
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 5, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions
season ender?
nooooooo this is too sad
"You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless! You gotta hope even more, and cover your ears and go 'bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla!'"
god.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
There are no words.
Makes the Miller/Blake debate seem really meaningless now.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 5, 2009 8:29 PM PST reply actions
Nooooooooooooooooo...
Out for the YEAR??? oh god Greg, I feel nauseous for you… So so sorry my man. This is like a nightmare come true.
by pdxrob on Dec 5, 2009 8:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I think curse words should be allowed for the next five hours.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 5, 2009 8:30 PM PST reply actions
Maybe Dave will do an open cuss threat that disappears forever later :)
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in other terrible news...
texas won. sorry tcu.
"The two things you've got to do to give yourself a chance to win games. One, you've got to shoot the ball. Second thing, we've got to play defense."
- Nate McMillan
despite themselves, they eeked it out
not to mention Nebraska gifted them about 40 yards free on the last drive. kickoff out of bounds and personal foul. ugh.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
This really hurts...
really bad. I am just gonna go play games, I am feeling too depressed now watching portland.
Nic, Travis, Rudy's back spasms, LMA's contusions, Greg... When does it end?
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
Don't forget..
…Nate ruptured his achilles and Mo and Paul have cancer.
Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.
And Patty Mills broke his foot before even stepping on the court. And Claver twisted his ankle before even being drafted by the Blazers.
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Did someone bring that idol from the Brady Bunch to the Garden last week?
Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.
Dunno, but I suppose one of the construction workers was a closet Lakers fan and buried something
Like a Bowie voodoo doll, a Jordan jersey, some Rick Fox hair…
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Horace Grant's goggles?
Wondering what moves Pritchard would make to land me a date in the off-season. Preferably one with tickets.
is that what dante's wearing?
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Sorry but this is easily the worst player injury the Blazers could get.
Paul Allen’s is much more important in the grand scheme though.
I will never give up on Greg Oden ever. I support him 1000% get better Greg.
by BRoyInThe4th on Dec 5, 2009 8:32 PM PST reply actions 32 recs
Add me to that list.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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True words.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
How about not giving up on your team Blazer fans?
Our season still goes on with or without Greg.
"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Dec 5, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
It's not about the season, it's about Greg.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on Dec 5, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
With you on that! You'll never hear the word bust in regards to Oden from me.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Bad three days
My Beavs lose their second straight Civil War for the Rose Bowl and now this. Days like today make me wonder why I bother being a sports fan.
Who wants to have a hang-yourself-in-your-closet party?
"I don't know Twitter" - Rudy Fernandez
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 5, 2009 8:34 PM PST reply actions
Cablinasian.
"I don't know Twitter" - Rudy Fernandez
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 5, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
lol
"I don't know Twitter" - Rudy Fernandez
by RoodiePhirnandizz on Dec 5, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
I feel so awful right now
Greg Oden is a guy who you can truly feel good about rooting for. He’s a genuinely good human being, it’s not that prepackaged Tiger Woods/Michael Jordan thing where the image is a Madison Avenue creation, he really is a good dude. I don’t even know what to say right now, it’s just an awful thing. Get well soon Greg, and no matter what happens with your career, I’ll always be a fan and I’ll always wish you success it whatever it is you do.
The Blazerverse and The Wire: A comparison
Brandon Roy = Stringer Bell (smooth technician dedicated to his craft)
Nate McMillan = Cedric Daniels (well intentioned leader, but he can be too rigid for his own good at times)
Martell Webster = Wee Bey Brice (straight up solider who follows orders; every organization needs these guys to be successful)
Jerryd Bayless = Marlo Stanfield (he's new to the game, but he's watching and waitng; he will take over and there will be casualties)
Rudy Fernandez = Jimmy McNulty (he gets results, but the leadership wishes he was less of a wild man; the ladies love him)
Greg Oden = Michael Lee (he started off a quiet kid, but he's beginning to tap in to his huge potential to change the game)
Andre Miller = Lester Freamon (do not let the laconic demeanor fool you, the veteran knows what's up)
John Canzano = Scott Templeton (scummy muckraker who stays up at night polishing his award)
Any news about Rudy's MRI?
Hoping for any good news tonight.
"The two things you've got to do to give yourself a chance to win games. One, you've got to shoot the ball. Second thing, we've got to play defense."
- Nate McMillan
So our center rotation is LMA starting and Joel off the bench, or Joel starting and ? Howard ? off the bench?
Until Pendy comes back in January, with who knows how he holds up in the NBA. Great, just great.
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I'm gonna have a real hard time with the rest of this season.
With no Oden, there’s no progress and no future.
Comcast really should settle with DirecTV soon.
They won’t have a team left to hawk pretty soon.
i just hope we make the playoffs thats all i ask for, idc what any other fans or teams think just make the playoffs
and get greg back next season all healthy
Odenized
Wasn't Oden's left ankle slightly sprained or something?
I wonder if there’s a connection between the two injuries, like not being able to put his weight on the ankle led to extra stress on the kneecap or something
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
no. the only connection is the knee bone is connected to the leg bone...which is actually your ankle.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Nobody knows
But I sure wish now he would have sat out this game
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no
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
I hope not.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
With what?
We missed the ‘sell high’ point on a number of players.
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Yep. And what do you want him to do anyway?
Get a good defending SF and a good defending PG and a starting C?
time to develop bayless
and move blake.
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 5, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
At least now LMA doesn't have an excuse /crutch to be soft. Now he needs to play inside.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Brutal.
I’m obviously not a Blazer fan but I hate to see anyone get hurt.
The Lakers "Too big, too strong, too long, too good."
by olf on Dec 5, 2009 8:42 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
you notice what's happening now? the blazers I think were relying on Oden and his defense.
now they know they dont have him to fall back on and they look less flat footed and more hungry. roy is jumping after loose balls even.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
I just hope WHEN Oden recovers, they remember that.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Kind of like another team... Gosh, who was that... Big guy got hurt, team was surprisingly good...
Oh yeah! HOUSTON.
If we’re the new Houston Rockets, I would be okay with the rest of the season.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
As okay as I can be with GO hurt, that is.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
the thing about the playoffs is we still have a good team and sure Oden will miss out on some experience but last year i thought he looked
better in the playoffs than the regular season. i think he’s good without the experience.
PS why does juwanna man play
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
because everyone is hurt...
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
still dont see why he plays.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Well
the team has no other option then to circle the wagons and battle the rest of the season as a TEAM. Go Blazers!
Kings fan here
Man, I’m sorry to hear about Oden’s injury. He was my favorite player coming out of college and I enjoyed watching him emerge this year. I feel for you guys as fans and for Oden. I really hope he will come back and be successful.
by king4life on Dec 5, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Thank you.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
At least we're known for having the best backup center in the league
(not that it makes me feel any better right now)
Get Well Oden
Greg Oden will be negotiating his post-rookie contract this Summer
It could be an interesting negotiation.
He might opt to wait one more year and become a restricted free agent.
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will be very interesting.
Blazers could get a huge bargain if he’s healthy in the future.
Draft Ryan Wittman
it sucks
so bad for oden. now the blazers can lowball him cause everyone else will be scared off by his injury history. i just hope the blazers are fair to him and make his contract super-incentive laden…. like 3 mil for every championship or a mil for every all-star game or something. lowers our risk and helps him get what he deserves if he rights his body
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 5, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Oden's Contract Situation
Next year will be his fourth and final contract year with the Blazers, right? And this year and the next are both optional, correct? Is there any chance at all that we won’t exercise our option on that to cut losses? I mean, I hope we don’t but if recovery is looking unlikely it might be something Pritchard looks into.
No way
It’s not like this is a career-ending injury. You just don’t let potentially dominant big men walk for nothing. I’m guessing that it’ll work out something like how Bynum’s deal worked out. You give him roughly what he wants on a per year basis but less years guaranteed and with a team option for the last year.
That said, it feels dirty to talk about contracts so soon after the injury.
Lakers Fan here
I feel terrible for what happened to Oden. I loved his story and the progress he was making this year.
I hope when he comes back he will just pick up where he left off.
by VeysonD on Dec 5, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Thank you for your encouragement.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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Thank you. We all appreciate the well wishes from other team's fan's.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
life is cruel
nic, trav, paul, patty, jeff, nate, luke, greg. wtf.
"The news about Oden makes you want to cry" -Clippers announcer Ralph Lawler
Clippers fan here. This is a sad day for NBA fans. At least you have Joel to hold down the fort. A deep playoff run is still entirely possible.
by ReignMan on Dec 5, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
bulls fan here
and i agree with that statement. watching the video clip actually did make me shed a tear. the blazers are one of the best organizations in the entire league, and you’d have to be a total idiot/homer not to root for them. and i can’t say enough about oden. i’ve always loved the guy, and this is just saddening.
it was especially saddening when they showed pryzbilla for a second, who looked down at the floor, and then sighed, and took off his warmups, as if to say. “Well, here we go again.”
My respect. You guys will get through this, and I hope your management holds the course.
"4 inches, baby!" --ripped off from Kush
by anorexorcist on Dec 5, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Thank you.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
Thank you very much
M 80- So what does Portland give up? Big D- Nothing, Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free. (Comments from Blog a Bull on July 9, 2009)
thanks, but no.
We maybe make the playoffs as a 6/7/8 seed and get owned in the first round. Maybe.
Draft Ryan Wittman
We'll fight as hard as we can.
Thanks for the support.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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Damn. What a heartbreaker for Oden.
I love Greg to death. He’s an excellent center despite his experience and yes, his injuries, and we’ve just all got to pray for him. I still think Portland is good enough to make the playoffs even if we don’t win the Finals.
by rise_stand_resist on Dec 5, 2009 8:51 PM PST reply actions
rice needs to shut up. that was a foul on juwanna man pure and simple
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Not the gamethread?
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Much thanks to the fans
of other teams for coming out to offer their support. This is really much more about the Blazers organization, and more about Greg Oden the human being. One of the nicest and most genuine players around and he really does not deserve this to him, and your heart has to break for him.
by TSE on Dec 5, 2009 8:54 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Yes.
In response to the many fans of other teams coming to offer their support:
Thanks you so much.
It means so much to me, that simple moment of compassion. Especially now while we are all down in the dumps, it helps us to keep going.
I’ll remember this.
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This really sucks
It’s really hard to find a bright spot in this. How can one guy have so many different injuries?
Start Andre Miller NOW to showcase him for a trade.
you ever see Unbreakable?
Oden was in that right?
When the Blazers play bad I don't like them less... I like Blazers Edge less.
by In Walks Rudy on Dec 5, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
too soon.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
it will never be a good time.
I can do nothing but laugh at this point. Our team is so beat up.
When the Blazers play bad I don't like them less... I like Blazers Edge less.
by In Walks Rudy on Dec 5, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'm looking at Big Z now. Horribly injury prone early in his career, then it buffed out and now he's the Cav with the most games.
Ceterum censeo Lakers esse delendam
ehhh
big z has returned to be a mediocre center on a team in dire need of what his projections were years ago, but he’s never reached that level. i’d rather look to amare. a dude with similar athleticism to oden with a similar rash of freaky injuries, and yet he keeps coming back strong
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 5, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Amare and Howard seem out of Greg's league in terms of athleticism unfortunately. Amare got his explosiveness back way earlier, and never had knee problems again.
Maybe think Kenyon Martin if you want another example.
Ceterum censeo Lakers esse delendam
sure
really, just anyone but big z. if oden comes back and is about as healthy as big z….groan. no championships for us
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 5, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Well Z had foot problems. You can say a lot about Greg, but his feet seem able to support his big frame. Knock on wood. Knock knock. So guys like Amare and Martin with knee trouble seem like the more apt comparison. With Z, it’s just that he was out a lot early in his career and then stayed healthy with just the regular bruises and tweaks all basketball players get.
Ceterum censeo Lakers esse delendam
empty speculation without seeing the xray but
this injury might not be as bad as it looked, if there is little comminution then its a pretty straightforward procedure without too much debility i.e. loss of motion, loss of strength and knee instability. keep your head up greg, we’re pulling for you
Not trying to be a debbie downer, but if you scroll up to the pictures linked you can pretty much see a lot of the knee without an xray.
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The Blazers are still a good team
that just lost their 10 and 10 starting center. They’ll pull through
not to mention that Oden did that in very limited minutes and was trending up and changing a ridiculous amount of shots on the defensive ends.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
same
if someone put side by side images of roys pure joy when he found out we got the number one pick in that room full of GMs to that picture when he’s standing over oden…i can’t even finish, time to go drink
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 5, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Stomach punch.
I feel bad for Oden. He worked so hard to live up to everyone’s expectations. The shining bright spot this year for the Blazers. A gentle giant.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Aww man, Greg. You've already given a lot of people some joy in their lives.
Including me. That makes you a winner.
Bill simmons tweet:
- So sorry Rip City. Sad night. 2 minutes ago from UberTwitter
So sorry Rip City. Sad night.
-Bill Simmons on Twitter (@sportsguy33)
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
he always said he'd like to be "wrong" about Greg
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
When I met him at a book signing, he said he hoped GO would be successful.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
It's starting to
feel like Rip City = R.I.P city. :(
I'm not going to tell you how to feel.
But the Rockets didn’t do this. And they were compassionate too.
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Ben why do you even prod like that at a time like this? Even reposting that AWoj quote is a low blow. I dont even wanna go into how wrong or short sighted or smug he is being with that quote.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Overreaction Both Ways
Oden’s a big boy. No need to be overly sympathetic to a number one draft pick, no matter how sensitive he may be. Yes, it sucks that he finds himself injured again but there’s really no need to gush about what a great guy he is or other off-the-court comments. It’s hard to chalk this up to a bout of bad luck at this point. I hope he recovers and kicks butt next season, and that’s all that needs to be said there. In the meantime we can get behind the rest of the team.
Not at all.
I am totally behind the team.
And I am devastated by Greg’s injury.
But let me be very clear. I am way more upset by Greg’s injury in terms of him as a person than I am in terms of the Blazer’s success.
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by staylost on Dec 5, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
REALLY?
Sorry champ, but this is absolutely about Greg as a person and about the team. He is a great kid and it killed me to see him on the floor.
Adrian Wojnarowski
I want to say some very bad things about him. His KP hate astounds me.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I've disliked that guy since the first moment I heard anything of him.
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You have this Spurs fan’s sympathy—Oden was playing so well and has always been gracious in the face of his setbacks. I hope this is the last one he has on his way to a long and successful career.
(Woj is a self-important ass. Ignore him.)
I have flying monkeys at my disposal, and I'm not afraid to use them.
by Lauri on Dec 5, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
im hoping this is like big Z's situation
where he had some bad injuries early in his career
but he gets back on track and is able to keep them to a minimum from then on…
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
In other news:
I didn’t care one way or the other before. Maybe leaned toward mild dislike. But now I know I hate Clownzano. Fire the d-bag.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
by Mr. Knox on Dec 5, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
He went from village idiot to the lynch mob is coming in my opinion tonight.
I hope I never have to read any of his crap or hear his whiny little voice again. The dude should be fired.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Just in disbelief
that we didn’t get to see Miller start w/ Oden and won’t for the rest of the year. Like Greg said, Miller would come in and say he was going to feed him the ball/get him going… put a big smile on his face. Roy and LA would have adjusted. Webster would have gotten his stroke back. Would have been a hell of a season.
Get better Greg. Hang in there. You’ll be back next year.
by NorCalBlazers on Dec 5, 2009 9:15 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I just hope
that the Blazers find a way for him to realize how much Portland loves him and supports him.
by TSE on Dec 5, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
I'm from Salem, now from San Bernardino, CA.
And I love and support Greg Oden.
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I feel bad for Oden. He seems like one of the real good guys and if things were fair hed play 80 games every season. And not to mention his numbers were up this year, he was showing real improvement. Now that he’s out for the season theres no need for anyone to rush, lets hope his doctors take it slow and make sure they fix his problems properly.
by CavsLebronFan on Dec 5, 2009 9:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thank you.
:’(
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I wish Greg had busted his knee in the WCF blocking the final buzzer beater attempt by Kobe
Ceterum censeo Lakers esse delendam
Todays article in the Oregonian about all the Blazer injuries jinxed us more!
When I read it I thought who will be next?
Now this.
Get well Greg.
it's the latter
as long as no tissue in the knee (ie ligaments/tendons) were damaged, this is similar to any other broken bone…
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
by cloudydays on Dec 5, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, then aside from (more) lost time and (more) re-conditioning and rehab
This isn’t that bad.
If no ligaments were damaged.
My friend tells me ESPN says they were doing surgery already. Anyone else heard this, and what it means?
The official team Twitter account (@pdxtrailblazers) just posted quotes from GO... I'd be surprised if he's in surgery already
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
It's probably not a medical emergency
The docs will probably stabilize the injury, but schedule surgery at earliest convenience. Having to operate in an emergency basis would reduce the chances of a succesful outcome, in most cases.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
see, good news
I’ve got an e-mail in to Prospectus injury expert Will Carroll for more, but I found one other NBA player who suffered a fractured patella-then-Washington Wizards forward Jarvis Hayes, who was injured in late December 2005. Hayes did not apparently initially undergo surgery, but then had the procedure in mid-February 2006 when the patella failed to respond to non-surgical treatment. He missed the remainder of the season, but returned to play 163 out of a possible 164 games the following two seasons.
again, the only worry now is that no ligaments were damaged. I’m sure we’ll know more after KP’s press conference. but as long as no tissue was damaged, this is the type of thing where, once it heals completely, we shouldn’t have to worry about it ever again.
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
Canzano?
AWoj?
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It is a solid, solid reporting job by Ben, even though the news isn't good.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
Sad Day for Blazers and NBA
Sorry to hear about Greg Oden. As a Kings fan, I don’t root for the Blazers. But this kid was really rounding into shape this year. He looked lean and explosive, and much more polished around the hoop.
I feel bad for him and all the Blazer fans who are passionate about their team. Get well, Greg.
by bench_blob on Dec 5, 2009 9:26 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Oden will get
30/20/10 next year season opener
why not keep our homerism up?
Pass the beer nuts?
What is that even supposed to mean? No big deal? Let the speculation begin? Whatever it means (to him) it sounds flippant and insensitive. Is there any support for a fan led “fire Canzano” kinda movement? I don’t read his columns anymore, and from what I’ve seen, there are plenty of others who don’t appreciate his smug, self-congratulatory approach. I usually don’t care about what sportwriters say, but I really dislike this guy.
Yeah, and very bummed about Oden. This season has been a trainwreck nightmare I don’t think anyone expected. I hope he stays mentally strong and picks up where he left off.
reading
a response he @twittered someone, what he really meant was “time to get to the bar and drink away our depression” altho in the way that only canzano seems capable of, he pissed off everyone in portland cause it was so poorly worded
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 5, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
boycotting Canzano
I am done with him….the guy is a wordsmith and that is the best first tweet after Greg is carried out on a stretcher….find a new city….no more of him for me….DONE
Thank you
to all the fans of other NBA teams for their well wishes. You guys are all class acts and true fans.
We feel it too.
Thanks for sharing your feelings here.
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It is really a shame
Anyone but Oden, after the long recovery before.
I am curious to know the “what now”, in terms of how you recover from this injury.
before the injury happened, I said that we wanted a fracture or dislocation and not a ligament injury. This is much preferable.
i cry for nic
dislocation would have been the best result by far
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
Sad night
a young, great player goes down
Still believe, but this year’s focus will shift dramatically. Still, love this team and know they can do well.
just devastating
living on the east coast I usually only stay up to see how GO does. I want my refund on league pass.
any chance freeland, claver and kop. can come over early?
Screw Canzano and Wojnarowski
Seriously, how sad is your life that you get off on saying “I told you so, see” when something bad happens to, by all accounts, a thoroughly decent person? People like that in the media, particularly the sports media, make me sick. John, Adrian, I’m sorry you are bitter, failed athletes who take joy in the adversity of others who achieved what you never could. I’m sorry you can’t be like guys like Peter King and Dick Vitale who enjoy the good elements of the games and the people who play them for a living. Here’s the funny thing – even if GO said forget it and never touched a ball again after tonight, he will continue to be a better person and make more contributions to society and the lives of other people than self-important pricks like yourselves who only find joy when someone else falters, and are always in search of the next job/story. The world needs a lot more people like GO, and a lot fewer of their sorry ilk. Sorry if my language is a bit offensive, but that’s about as cool as I feel like putting it right now, my thoughts are a much deeper shade of blue than what I’m spewing right now.
Always supporting Greg Oden.
by blazeraddict on Dec 5, 2009 9:38 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
You sir...
Have posted my exact sentiment.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
I'm glad Roy just won the game, but I'd trade our 13 wins for a healthy GO tonight
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
I'm gonna call you on that one.
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He can have one nut
but not two. :)
(I’m done having kids, so I only need the one for, er, inspiration…)
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
As a basketball fan, this sucks
I like Oden as a basketball player, and he appears by all accounts to be a decent human being. He (and Blazers fans) deserve better than this.
Get well soon, Greg.
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by section214 on Dec 5, 2009 9:44 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Canzano's just pissed
Oden didn’t come down on a 4 year old girl, paralyze her, which would then have touched off a 9-part series by him detailing the level of his sympathy for her plight.
I have a feeling that this team will do a lot better than people expect without Oden.
AK1984.
Mortimer.
Norsktroll.
we still have Brandon Roy and LMA
but right now we have 0 depth
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
I think you are right.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
which is small consolation at this moment.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Sad, very sad. I’m really sorry for the Blazers fans and for Greg Oden. Best of luck to Greg – I hope he comes back better than ever.
Straight from the No-Stat Zone to your computer!
Dunkin' Cheerleaders
by LatinD on Dec 5, 2009 9:44 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Rec
Couldn’t have said it any better than that
Mark my words... Dante Cunningham will be an all star
by roynfernandez on Dec 5, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
I'm glad that their is still a high level of class in todays society.
Despite the the apathy spewing from writers whom recieve national attention…. Looking at you, canzano, hollinger, Woj…
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Canzano didnt say anything negative about oden. Neither did hollinger.
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of Greg Oden.
Canzano appeared to be flippant or lost for words.
What he said usually indicates flippancy.
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I've been following for a bit.
Canzano:
Oden gone… pass the beer nuts
Hollinger:
Irony: Blazers are having 70s night tonight with throwback unis. I don’t think they planned on having star center get injured as part of it.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Apathy is the best way to describe these responses.
You were right on.
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Someone please, please punch Canzano
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
by TheGreatMon on Dec 5, 2009 9:46 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
And then we can all yell:
“I am Spartacus!”
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How is the Portland sports guy less tactful than L*ker fans? COME ON.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
Gregs injury was the low point of the season.
Its all uphill from here.
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of Greg Oden.
Man, I'm still hung up over this.
I was gonna go out but now I don’t even feel, responsive towards anything. These guys are like brothers to me, and I am a family man. This is completely and thoroughly numbing. I don’t even know how I get passed this right now. I’m serious when I say that being a Blazer fan is not healthy.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Know how you feel. I fought the urge to turn the tv off after Greg was carted off the court.
The whole scene took the air out of me. Greg’s rise this season… Really his entire last season too has been a real source of joy for both my wife and I. Seeing him hurt like this again, well it may sound strange but its like watching the vet put your dog down.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
:(
just got home from a day of hiking & post-hike beers
been a blazer fan for 10+ years & an ohio state alum, was so ridiculously happy when “we” were able to draft oden. he instantly became my favorite member of the team.
feel like crying after hearing this news
(((52)))
“we” made the right pick at the time, 95% of NBA GM’s would’ve made the same choice. real easy for a media smart-ass to question it at this point
No way.
Oden is still the right pick.
This guy is becoming the #1 player of all time I have rooted for.
I hate celebrity, but this guy has made me deeply care.
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and...
you’re disputing my comment on what basis?
read before you post
I'm sorry.
I meant that it is not easy for the a media smart-ass to question.
At least to me.
They would clearly be wrong.
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cool
little tense right now
you basically agreed with my post with an introduction of “no way”
easy for them (media) to just throw out a comment at this point, they’re obviously less emotionally invested in this team than us fans are, and would generally have less blazer-specific knowledge than we do. they also have an agenda (controversy helps readership in this society), “journalism” tends to be more negative/sensationalist in this day & age
That's the one thing that galls me more than anything...
All these so called experts trying to slander Pritchard for the choice of Oden over Durant…
Bill Simmons stands out.
Nobody (that I can remember) was screaming from the rooftops that the Blazers HAD to draft Durant. If anything, it was a tepid support of him being a better athlete….
It’s just so disingenuous as to be sickening. It’s fine to say the Blazers made the wrong pick, in retrospect… but man… try to be honest about things.
Keep your head up, GO
I’d give up my patella if it means healthy Greg…and I am actually serious about this.
Well, I guess this is going to be Roy’s team for a while. We’re also going to need some big bodies since we are woefully lacking at the front court spots.
Maybe it’s just me, but what the heck is the Blazers medical staff doing? Big part of medical care is preventive medicine, but guys are just dropping left and right. Look at the Suns and see how they are able to keep their geriatric lineup healthy. Shouldn’t we be asking some serious questions about the Blazers medical staff now?
there is no way in hell they could have prevented this from happening
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
Well, I'm asking because it's not just Greg, though
Makes me think something more can be done to prevent injuries.
I suppose that's a possibility
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
How do they prevent this?
CAUSE: or from indirect stresses caused by twisting actions or violent contractions in the muscles surrounding the knee.
I am seriously very sad now and fighting back tears
Not for my loss, but for Greg. He doesn’t deserve this.
Get well soon Greg and know that true basketball fans (especially Portland fans) want to see you playing basketball and want to see you experience joy in playing basketball again. This won’t be easy but we support you 100% and while that might not mean the most right now, lean on us for whatever helps. We will be there for you.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
I was under the impression that
he was having a beer to drown his sorrow over that fact that Oden went down with another injury
But I don’t really read his articles too much so i’m probably wrong
I took it like that too
I am definitely not a Canzano fan, but I don’t think he was being glib. I took it as a “I am going to be drinking”.
It's a good thing that I don't live in Portland anymore
I’m not completely confident that I might be able to hit the breaks in time if I saw Canzano crossing the streets
by xedubx on Dec 5, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Why does everyone conclude it's meant to offend?
It’s not like he hates Oden. Now Woj… he’s a jerk.
He doesn't hate Oden. He just is a "Sam Bowie" guy.
He’s calling Oden flimsy and saying it’s no surprise he got hurt again.
by rise_stand_resist on Dec 5, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Of course, Canzano was one of many
who called for the Blazers to draft Oden.
He seems to forget what he wrote in previous columns.
Others, however, don’t.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
no kidding...
I stopped reading him a long time ago (proud to say)
Just catching a bit of the surplus effluent that pressures out of the septic overflow valve as second hand reports is sufficient irritation from him. I can’t believe the "beer nuts " comment…
So what , he is too stupid to say “leave the bottle” if that is what he means ??
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Too much work to clearly communicate.
Not too much work to take little things and blow them way out of proportion so that he can seem more important than he is.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
It's from Cheers
I actually don’t mind it. I get his frustration.
I hope he gets a national job soon so he gets his poison out of this city. I freakin hate that guy.
by dario argento on Dec 5, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
I guess we'd still have to hear about him... but at least he wouldn't be writing about Oregon sports anymore.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
Oden was and still is the perfect pick for us.
Durant wouldnt have helped us worth a damn as good as he is. Anybody who joins the Sam Bowie chorus can stuff it. Oden’s a man’s man and he won’t stay down forever.
Keep your head up big man.
by rise_stand_resist on Dec 5, 2009 9:52 PM PST reply actions
Just heard the news..
Sac King fans wish Oden a swift recovery.
When Martin went out I thought the season was over for us. Here is hoping the team continues to play well despite this setback.
by nothingbutnet on Dec 5, 2009 9:53 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Greg is very young.
He’ll be back. It ain’t over….
I feel sick. I had a horrible day after fighting with my GF ( she's frustrated with me being hurt and not tons of fun due to a herniated lumbar disc ), and come home to find out
that Greg is out for the season. The video is horrible. I don’t want to ever see it again. I am crushed by this. I have had a terrible month, and the Blazers were one of my favorite escapes, but now this. I am just crushed.
We're with you here.
We feel it too.
It really hurts.
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ah Dario....
all life’s little tests that make us stronger! feel better soon!
Tough tough night for all of us.
Hope things turn around for you.
Same here.
I’m so spent from fighting with my GF as of late, and have been completely drained emotionally.
Blazer games are such an oasis for me, and a huge part of that is watching Oden develop and turn into a legit player in the league.
Wow, sorry to hear about your troubles.
Keep your head up though, the season isn’t a total loss. They’ll figure it out and play hard.
Hope your back starts feeling better soon.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Don't go on any national media forums like ESPN. Just full or Lakers trolls and 'ha ha, it was so obvious Durant was the right pick' revisionists.
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Are you surprised?
ESPN forums are for those casual fans who only follow the teams who always win.
by rise_stand_resist on Dec 5, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
No, not at all. Just pointing it out.
I only found SBN because their comment threads and forums were technically and emotionally draining.
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After a day like this
It’ll be a few days before I regain the nerve to even check the front page of ESPN let alone the forums
Its much easier when you ignore them entirely!
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Woj
This is the last time I will talk about him anymore. I just unfollowed him on my twitter account. Please all do the same. You can get your scoops a few minutes later from some of the other NBA insiders. He is dead to me.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
How can I continure my hate of the Thunder when Green makes comments like that?
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Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
Jeff Green is a good guy, so is KD.
Hate Aubrey McClendon’s bunch, but it’s not the player’s fault for moving to OKC. I mean, would YOu rather live in Seattle or OKC? (well, Durant is from texas so I don’t know in his case)
Didn't Durant catch some heat from Seattle fans for not
commenting on what he thought of the move?
Either way, it was a pretty much no-win situation for the guy.
I believe it was from not making a stand one side or the other
But it’s not like he was there for a while. He was still a rookie and not like he lived there for # of years.
What’s funny is that people of OKC crucified Collison for supporting Seattle. Collison still lives in Seattle and loves the city, etc.
Even as a guy from the Puget Sound region, I no longer detest the PBC, LLC crew.
My ire over the Seattle SuperSonics relocating to Oklahoma City is on Howard Schultz.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
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You must have been the second guy in line for Simmons' book signing.
I agree though. It’s Schultz’s fault. The current owners brought them to OKC while suffering personal financial losses. While I can’t condone that type of behavior, what Schultz did was far worse.
yeah dude seems very real
but why hate on them?
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 5, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Never been a reason to hate those players.
Just the upper management.
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If you're going to hate anyone, I'd make it Howard Schultz. To me, Schultz is a no-good, slimy sellout.
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Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
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There's enough hate to be spread around.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Meh, I can at least relate to Clay Bennett and his wily gang of carpetbaggers. For example, ...
let’s assume that I all of a sudden had $11,000,000,000 worth of assets like Steve Ballmer and subsequently purchased a NHL team like the Calgary Flames — which has been owned by a group of investors since 1980 — with the intention of moving that franchise to the Emerald City.
Would that make me a bad guy?
To the people of Calgary, Alberta, Canada, I’d become a real life version of Satan. Yet, everyone in the Pacific Northwest would crown me king, which is all that’d matter to me.
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Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
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Sounds no different than Howard making a quick buck off the Sonics.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I have no problem rooting against the Thunder.
Green is a nice guy, but I hope the Thunder gets crushed. :)
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
OKC is one big reason why the NBA is hard to love right now
And Greg going down is another
But Brandon Roy almost makes up for all of it.
the woj angle is retarded
dude proved his utter lack of class with that commentary
gotta look forward/positive with the blazers, won tonight → breaking the losing streak. definite plus.
we’ve been successful w/o oden, need to get back there. keep it going. heads up, make something positive out of this unfortunate injury.
joel will step-up, all is not lost
go blazers!
get better greg!
To him it's just work. He looks at players like pawns.
Pieces to a game that have no souls.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
We all have to make a living somehow.
Yes, I know that may seem ironic coming from an unemployed bum like me.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Still?
"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 5, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Uh, there must be a trade before Christmas as a short-term fix at center; otherwise, ...
this team will quite possibly miss the playoffs. I suggested this trade proposal in the JD thread, although Norsk wasn’t too keen on trading away an asset like Victor Claver.
http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5312437
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Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
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Yeah well join the club.
We should grow beards and hang around freeway entrances together sometime. I’ll bring some cardboard if you bring the markers.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Retrospective is nice
But I think we’ve all moved past the 07 draft. We need to look at how we will adapt and overcome this obstacle.
Those four faces on Mount Rushmore are always there to remind us that yes, if you do enough good deeds, you will change into a mountain when you die.
by ODEN on a stick on Dec 5, 2009 10:05 PM PST reply actions
who is the rocket player talking to oden in Ben's picture?
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Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
Too dark, but looks like a big guy. Hayes or Landry would be my guess.
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No idea
but i have great appreciation for that team’s sportsmanship.
"Everyone knows who you are; but only your friends know why."
- Rich Amato
indeed...
that is nice to see in that photo. in fact, much of the commentary has been positive and i sincerely hope the nba and it’s fans realize what a good thing Greg is for them, and i hope Greg feels the love… and gets well soon.
poor guy. my heart breaks for him tonight.
KP live on Comcast right now.
Sounds like his heart is in his throat. Making me sad.
Oden was wanting to know the score as he was transported to the MRI facility.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Oden's interest in the score is a massive positive.
Even after another devastating blow, the man will keep loving his team and wanting it to win.
I see no signs of being down on himself.
It's a tune-out fest.
Did anyone see the players surronding Greg when he was on the stretcher?
They were hugging him and it looked like a couple of them actually kissed him on the head.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
Rockets players and staff were real classy, and I thanked them for that.
Brandon is holding Gregs hand when he’s down on the floor.
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Brandons initial reaction was the same as ours
Kudos to him and Miller for putting the team on their back.
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of Greg Oden.
was gonna mention that.
very sweet to see. Reminds me of when Rudy went down last year and some fan reached out and grabbed his hand.
I don’t know how to explain it but, it’s so comforting to see that in such a sad situation.
The bright side
Look. This sucks. Gregs great.
But here’s the upside. The rest of the team needs to be better. Brandon needs to be better. Lamarcus too. Everyone. They need another year.
This injury sucks. But looking back five years from now, blazer fans could point to this as the a positive.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Dec 5, 2009 10:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I appreciate the attempt to cheer everyone up...
But losing Oden for a year will never be a positive.
Still, its more productive to take the positive and move forward.
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of Greg Oden.
There are 8 stages of grievance. We are still in the early stages.
by dario argento on Dec 5, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Especially since we were starting to see how special he could be...
Ugh…hopefully, there’s no long-lasting effects and we’ll see the big guy smiling on regular basis on the court next year.
Will he be out a year?
Meaning still out when 10-11 starts?
Or just until the end of the season?
Broken bones are nasty, but bones heal better than lots of other things.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
They're saying the rest of the season.
A medical site about the injury says six month recovery time frame.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Probably not a positive
"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 5, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Indeed
"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 5, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
It would be great if it just turned out 'neutral'
Developing Bayless, Rudy, Martell, Dante, Pendy, Patty. Having Roy carry the team along with LaMarcus again. Integrating Miller completely into the offense. Getting Nic and Travis back fully healthy. And then finally getting Greg back physically and hopefully emotionally healthy, although they still won’t have learned to play with a dominant center.
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if you should strike oden down
he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Given that it's a fracture of the bone, will there be any effect on athleticism apart from the obvious conditioning?
I would like to hear about the state of the ligaments following the break to get a clearer picture.
It's a tune-out fest.
as long as no ligaments or tissue in the knee were hurt -- which they shouldn't be
Greg will be back at 100% next season
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
This is a key point
This is not like a foot injury or something that plagues a big guy for years. Greg WILL dominate. It’s a question of when. And this injury may allow Brex and brandon and LMA to
Dominate too.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Dec 5, 2009 10:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It was supposed to be a special night
Took my little girl to her first ever Blazer game and introduced her to Blazermania. She at one point said “Daddy why are these people all so loud is it for the Blazers?” I said honey every game is like this, this is your team. She from that point never sat down screaming and hollering, it was fantastic. When Greg went down and the oxygen was sucked out of the Rose Garden she just stared at Greg and said “Is he too hurt to ever come back and play again?” Broke my heart. Get well big guy.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
I'm sorry.
Thank you for sharing.
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This could have happened in any uniforms
"I would (nsfbedge) Rosie O'Donnell for a million dollars" - AK1984
by Starvin' Marvin on Dec 5, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
I agree. We need to get some wild emotion out.
*ADLKJEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIWOOSSSAAAAAAAMBALLLLLLLLLLORRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YYYYYEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!! HAAHAAHAAHA!!!!!!!!!!
ODEN!
WILL!
RISE!
AGAIN!
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While that's obviously the case, I could see them being tossed for superstitious reasons.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
i dont blame the throwbacks
i blame the fact we wore red throwbacks instead of white ones at home.
who are we? the lakers?
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Dec 5, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
I blame negative energy coming from all of the Non Blazer Oden haters.
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of Greg Oden.
its a shame too
because they look way better than the current ones
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
by thomasikehara on Dec 7, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
Another thing - @&$& awoj
I haven’t read the article yet, I will admit. But awoj is not only classless, he also happens to be wrong. When you have a chance to pick a dominant center, you do it. And in the blazers case, you would do it again. And you might win a few titles as a result.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Dec 5, 2009 10:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions
It’s not the article, it were his first tweets were he a) said Greg for sure would be done for the season before that was known and b) said KP will be forever known as the guy who drafted the wrong player. Then scrambled to send a third message about Greg not deserving this behind it.
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If Andre started
none of this would have happened
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
no surprise that two of the bigger douchebags in sports journalism pile on
there will be a time for that garbage, but that time isnt tonight
just really sorry for greg
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 5, 2009 10:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I feel sorry for Greg and BE
there was already to many negative people around here.
Get Well Soon…
When the Blazers play bad I don't like them less... I like Blazers Edge less.
This will actually bring the negative people numbers down.
At least, that is my prediction.
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man i hope so...
i’m so sick of stupid impatient posts
When the Blazers play bad I don't like them less... I like Blazers Edge less.
by In Walks Rudy on Dec 5, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Hope you don't mind
But I had to copy your signature. I just had to…….
#52
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 5, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
#Blazers GM Pritchard said ‘maybe it’s time to look at that’ when asked if team would make a move to replace Oden. #NBA
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Please don't.
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Hopefully a PF/C.
Can back up LMA long term.
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This team needs a backup C and a backup PF/C.
Step #1: http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5312437
Step #2: http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5312626
There’s no more time for dilly-dallying, so let’s get moving onward and upward.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Yeah, I'm sure he's referring to a short-term fix.
Who wants to join me on the Rasho bandwagon?
While we’re at it, I’m still all for trading Travis Outlaw and Jerryd Bayless for Nick Collison.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
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AK1984
i prefer the rasho trade
not because I like it
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Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Dec 5, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
If Kevin Pritchard can acquire Rasho Nesterovic for Juwan Howard and some assests ...
(i.e, Victor Claver and/or Petteri Koponen), then that’ll work as a short-term fix. With all due respect to Claver and Koponen, they’re nothing more than marginal Euro prospects who’ve got no on-court value.
I, however, still want to acquire Nick Collison in return for Travis Outlaw and Jerryd Bayless, as Joel Przybilla and Nesterovic can’t always be counted on for 48 minutes at the 5, while LaMarcus Aldridge needs a backup power forward who can produce consistently while on the hardwood.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Koponen and Freeland are probably worthless
Both come from lousy basketball countries, and haven’t set the world on fire in Europe—neither strikes me as NBA material.
Klaver can at least play well in top-notch Euro competition.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
I personally like Joel Freeland much, much more than Victor Claver, who'd be no ...
better than Jonas Jerebko — who’s a below average combo forward — if he’d come over this year. Freeland, on the other hand, reminds me of a power forward version of Andris Biedrins due to his powerful face-up game — which’d make him an awesome pick-and-roll option at the 4 — and top-notch athleticism.
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Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
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And he can play both big men spots. A la David Lee, only he is 6'11"
I like Claver too though. He can develop into someone very valuable. Much better athleticism and jumper than Jerebko.
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Yeah, Joel Freeland > Victor Claver.
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Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
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Good to hear that
Last I’d heard, he wasn’t looking like NBA material. I don’t follow the ACB, so I’ll plea ignorance on this one.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, Joel Freeland : England :: Andris Biedrins : Latvia.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Biedrins we know can play in the NBA
Freeland still has yet to do so.
But heck, if we can buy out his ACB contract, and bring him over now, this might be a good situation.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
If I recall correctly, Joel Freeland's contract has a buyout of about ...
$500,000. Yet, the earliest Freeland would cross the Atlantic would be next season, but that’s no big deal.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
he also said
that he was just trying to get through tonight, and would deal with looking at that tomorrow
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
if we do that
the terrorist win
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Dec 5, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
I believe he meant as in to get a big body
for the season, and nothing more.
Blazers need a get replacement big.
Przybilla and LMA are the only healthy legitimate NBA bigs on this team right now. KP is right.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
And LA shouldn't play at 5 for more than 5-6 min stretches
Houston just killed us on boards today…although Houston is an excellent O rebounding team.
If the blazers trade greg...
There is no if. They won’t.
They may pick up another center. They need one.
Injuries brutal this year for p-town. Man.
I hope Joel doesn’t play too well to get signed as a back up.
There are a ton of contingencies here.
The most important thing is this has no effect on gregs long term health or dominance.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Dec 5, 2009 10:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Man please pray for my bro Greg Oden as well.. (via @KevinDurant35)
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Similar messages from other players, some that had to fight trough injuries. Like Wade.
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Durant has always been a class act
and has never let the media goad him into talking about the Blazers taking Greg over him. He has always had Greg’s back since the day they were drafted.
I agree...
When the Blazers play bad I don't like them less... I like Blazers Edge less.
by In Walks Rudy on Dec 5, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
we need a backup center now
thoughts?
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Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
Seriously...I think they should wait.
Treat this like one part of a larger solution closer to the deadline.
Come 12/17/2009, let's go get Rasho Nesterovic.
Juwan Howard would be included for salary reasons, while Victor Claver and/or Petteri Koponen would be included to intice Toronto to make the deal.
The team also desperately needs a backup PF/C, though, so let’s finally part ways with Travis Outlaw and quit fooling ourselves about Jerryd Bayless by dealing them for Nick Collison.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Bayless made me like him tonight.
When the Blazers play bad I don't like them less... I like Blazers Edge less.
by In Walks Rudy on Dec 5, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
At this juncture, Brandon Roy and Rudy Fernandez can handle all the minutes available at the 2; ...
plus, Steve Blake and Andre Miller can handle all of the minuets available at the 1. Jerryd Bayless is, well, nothing more than a luxury as a change-of-pace gunner off the bench. Right now, however, this team can’t afford that “luxury” due to its lack of frontline depth.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Portland also can't afford to jettison any potential at PG given that both Steve Blake and Andre Miller will be useless by the time Greg is into any kind of rythm.
It's a tune-out fest.
In the high-low zone offense, Jerryd Bayless is best used as a ballside wing on offense ...
rather than an off guard — as the kid seems lost playing off the ball — so you can’t convince me that a me-first gunner such as himself is the long-term answer at the 1 alongside a high usage, ball dominant 2 like Brandon Roy.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
I'm not sure if they can count on Rudy, so Bayless will be needed
back injuries and basketball are not a good combo, Fernandez’ body may not be able to take all the pounding
maybe when Mills comes back KP can deal a PG
but I think the rug’s been pulled out, and all of his remaining options are bad ones. This is the NBA, the games will keep coming and opposing teams aren’t going to do Portland any favors
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
It's easier to fill the wing positions and guys at the 1 than finding quality frontline players.
A four-guard rotation of Brandon Roy, Rudy Fernandez, Andre Miller, and Steve Blake will be fine — even with Fernandez getting extended minutes at the 3 on offense — therefore, Jerryd Bayless is a luxury.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
didn't you hear
Rudy is out
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/12/trail_blazers_injury_woes_cont.html
The Blazers have no more luxuries. At this rate they may need to keep Patty Mills around just to get though the season. (Yes, it is that bad)
It’s too early for trade talk. And too late for KP to do anything about his roster. 10 day contracts are in Portland’s future.
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Ten-day contracts aren't allowed until later in the season.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
January 10. Until then, they could file for an emergency replacement though (2 weeks at a time).
While 4 players are out and expected to be out more than 2 weeks. It’s what the Warriors did to call up their D-League guy who did a respectable job to back up and defend.
Since Portland can still dress at least 8 healthy players, the team doesn't ...
deserve a roster exemption.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Rudy and LMA are day to day
Let’s see, that leaves the following
Blake
Roy
Miller
Bayless
Webster
Cunningham
Howard
Przybilla
Looks like they’re still on the bubble
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
cool
I thought that I had heard he wasn’t makin the trip
by DowntownVinnie on Dec 6, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Ten-day contracts aren’t allowed until later in the season.
I knew that…that’s why I said they were “in the Blazer’s future”
For the present, I expect low-value FA signings from the D-League to fill out the practice roster, at least until Mills/Pend are healthy. Any player who emains on the roster after the mid-point of the season will get his contract guaranteed for eh rest of the year.
Anyone know what Steven Hill is doing, these days?
There’s far too many injured players for KP to pursue a “quick fix” deal, unless he’s getting more players “back” than he’s giving up. And he better hold on to his draft choices, because the way this season is going you never know where the team will wind up in the standings
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
but i'm also very much in favor of getting Collison... (also an xSonic.. hmm)
When the Blazers play bad I don't like them less... I like Blazers Edge less.
by In Walks Rudy on Dec 5, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
AK, you will eat your words about Brex...
You really still don’t like his game? Even next to brandon, greg, and lamarcks in two years as a fourth option?
You don’t trade a potential all-star for a stopgap one season solution.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Dec 5, 2009 10:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i agree
we could get more for bayless than a stopgap. Not that I condone trading Bayless
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Dec 5, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Again, Nick Collison wouldn't be a stopgap.
For one thing, Collison’s contract runs through the 2010-2011 season. Secondly, Collison is an effective 29-year-old role player who’s in his prime.
Now, trading Juwan Howard and some assets like Victor Claver and Petteri Koponen for Rasho Nesterovic would be considered a transaction invovling a “stopgap” acquisition.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Nick Collison wouldn't be a stopgap.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Spurs fan here — feel a lot worse about Gret than our 2nd consecutive home loss tonight. Hang in there and best wishes for a full recovery.
by doggydogworld on Dec 5, 2009 10:28 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, thanks. We're pretty shellshocked here.
Best of luck to your Spurs.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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just did
along with miller and roy.
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Dec 5, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
This may suck for Mills and Pendergraph
With all the injuries to the guys on the team who matter, can the Blazers afford to keep injured 2nd-round picks on the roster? I’m not talking about the $$$, I’m talking about the roster spot—we can’t add anybody without losing someone; and there is no injury exception to the 15-man roster.
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We can only cut Mills
Everyone else has a guaranteed deal.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
We can cut anyone we want
to free up the roster spot. A guaranteed contract means we still have to pay them, but the roster spot becomes free and can be used to sign someone else.
We’re paying for Darius this season, but he doesn’t consume a roster spot.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Even though Jeff Pendergraph's contract is fully guaranteed this season, he could be waived. Still, ...
Patty Mills is easily the guy who’d be on the chopping block first and foremost.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
cant we just send him to the d-league?
or would he still count against our roster spot
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Dec 5, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
D leaguers count on the roster
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Poor Greg :-(
This guy can’t seem to catch some luck. I feel so sorry for him as a person and the team as a whole.
Apparently
Adrian Wojo121920312312 didn’t like the potshot I made to him return on twitter because he sent me a very angry direct message.
by TSE on Dec 5, 2009 10:38 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
please elaborate. I would love to know what was said.
by dario argento on Dec 5, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Let's just say
I used some language I can’t repeat here because of Dave’s rules, but the gist of a message that it was a joke that he was a national writer and using an injury to Greg, a genuinely amazing and good person, to take a potshot against KP because of his agenda.
He direct messaged me and basically told to get a grip on myself, that he was a nat writer for a reason, etc. I told him he should get a grip and be a professional.
Publish it.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
This ain't Sam Bowie
This is like the Blazers winning the coin flip in ‘84, taking (H)akeem, and having HIM suffer two serious injuries in three years. The reason that Bowie over Jordan was regrettable is not that Sam got hurt—it’s that even if Bowie never missed a game, he’s a borderline All-Star at best.
Oden, if he can stay healthy, is going to be a damn fine player.
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What's the Blazers mailing address?
Where can we send get well cards?
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
At least we won tonight
I don’t know that I’d be able to take it if we lost.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
oden goes down
tcu looses any chance for a national championship
oregon goes to the rose bowl
I have had a terrible sports week.
the only things that could make it worse is seattle getting blown out tomorrow and chone figgins ditching the m’s at the last minute
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
At least Oregon's going to the Rose Bowl!
That’s the silver lining this week.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
For me at least.
Beaver/Blazer fans have to be hurting.
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
Simmons was right about one thing
We think of Oden as our child, even those of us without kids. When he hurts, we hurt, when he bleeds, we bleed.
LONG LIVE GO!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
you are right
about that….I feel like a mama bear about my Greg….I adore him…I feel so sad right now….
What free agent centers are available?
and looking for work?
I’m assuming a trade will be difficult, for no other reason than other GMs will be trying to screw KP over.
If KP can make a good trade, fine.
I’d rather he not make a fire sale trade—and I suspect he knows that.
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canzano
after getting that “tweet” from John Canzano…about “Oden out…pass the beer nuts” I am boycotting him…I am DONE with him…then he starts backtracking on his tweets…..what’s with him…..
He realized that he might have Said Something Stupid.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 5, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
i have been boycotting him
erver since he went on his rant on oden not being tough for not playing through his chipped bone in his knee cap
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Dec 5, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Simple - he probably got a very unfavorable reaction to that comment, thought it
would cost him readers/listeners, and backed off like the punk he is. At least have the guts to stand by it if you’re going to say it, I’m willing to guess he put more thought into the column than the tweets
Always supporting Greg Oden.
by blazeraddict on Dec 5, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
He's the Carmelo Anthony of columnists
37-33. Pasadena. Roses. Bliss.
"We will guard thee on and on."
Don't take it so hard
I know what he meant. JC isn’t a hater.
i re tweeted
and told him a couple of things……too late Canzano….I’m not buying it was a flippant comment because he did not know what to say…the guys is a wordsmith…..I think it’s time for him to find another city….
It sucks, guys.
But don’t take your hate out on Canzano. I don’t agree with him most of the time, but he’s not against us. This isn’t a Portland vs. the media situation (aside from Woj, screw that guy).
He’s as upset as the rest of us. Give him a break.
We are what we are. And I guarantee you this team isn’t going down without a fight.
just got off work
I’m speechless. Love you Greg!
Condolences from a Lakers fan
What a tragedy for the NBA. Stay strong Blazers fans! Lakers fans know your pain, from our Bynum experiences. The whole thing gives me the chills. Hopefully Oden can pick up where he left off next season.
by rjlink on Dec 5, 2009 11:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
For most players, when they get an injury, I feel worse for the team's sake than the player himself
but in Oden’s case, I wanna cry for the man. He is one of the hardest working, kindest people and yet he can’t catch fair justice. Get well Greg
by 64-18 on Dec 6, 2009 12:55 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
If anyone here knows Greg's address (many have claimed to, and he lives in PDX or Tualatin, can't remember which)
Then I think we should all (or at least those willing to spend a few dollars for their TRUE franchise player) should send him a gift just to let him know and remind him exactly how much the fans care about him. I know he has enough money to buy what he wants, but it’s not about the money; it’s about the support. Let me know what you think of the idea.
let's us pray and have faith in Greg Oden recovery doing well
let’s focus our positive energy and believe that the injury will healed sooner than the estimation time.
AD
Laker Lover here...
DAMN, DAMN, DAMN… heres to a speedy recovery Oden. You and ’Drew were supposed to be battling against the east in the All Star Game. It aint right. Trust when i say we feel you dawg. "Drew has been down twice. Get well baby boy. We still want our rivalry to be about the big man. (tears)
Lakers, Hurricanes, Dolphins
Imagine my sports world in the 80's. They're almost back, 'ceptin the Dolphins
by LAKESHOWrydamee on Dec 6, 2009 7:29 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
canzano
I have unfollowed him on twitter…..going to do the same thing with facebook…will not listen to him tomorrow either ba bye
Get better soon Greg
We need you back on the court ASAP
Rockets trainer who ran on the floor
Houston trainer Keith Jones is the one who ran onto the floor immediately to be by gregs side. I just thought it was a real touch of class for him to do that and to also cover gregs
eyes when he was in severe pain. The Rockets organization is very lucky to have him on their staff. Thank you Keith
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Nothing wrong with sharing GOO news.
We all need a little more goo in our life – it was fun to play with as children, no?
by TSE on Dec 6, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
stop sharing Canzano
I stopped reading him awhile ago and would rather not hear or see what he has to say.
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