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Andre and free agency

I've been thinking a lot about the Andre Miller acquisition this past offseason.  Now he's being mentioned in trade rumors.  That's all fine and dandy, but my real concern about the whole Andre Miller free agency implications that it might have...

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Nate has shown a real reluctance to play our big off-season acquisition in the starting 5.  A lot of it has to do with BRoy, but Nate does (or at least should) have the last say in the matter.  After losing Hedo at the last minute, I'm a bit worried that the way that Dre has been treated might discourage other big free agents from signing with us.  I don't think Dre is, or ever was, a "perfect" fit; however he's not been given a real crack at it.  To Dre's credit he's handled it like a pro since day one as far as i'm concerned.  Though, if i'm a big free agent, I think twice about signing here after this season.

Maybe Dre gets traded like the rumors state and Portland basically admits that his signing was a "mistake."  I'm not sure if that helps this perception, but it's possible.  So what do you all think?  

With all that said, I think Dre needs a shot in the starting lineup before he is really tradeable.  How many teams would even be interested in a backup PG to Steve Blake that is getting $7 mil a year?  None in my estimation, but I'm no GM.

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Does the benching / treatment of Andre Miller affect KP's ability to attract free agents to Portland?
Absolutely
62 votes
Yes, but KP was trying to fit a square peg in a round hole to start with
16 votes
It might, but enough $$$$ will draw anyone here
33 votes
No. Dre hasn't earned a role with the starters
9 votes
No, Portland's improved play in the 2nd half of the season will attract anyone who wants to win a title
12 votes
It's too soon to tell
17 votes

149 votes | Poll has closed

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Miller hasnt outplayed last season's Blake

Thats all Nate was waiting for. If Miller was playing with the same style he brought in the Heat game he would be starting or at least getting starters minutes. He hasnt really earned a start. Bayless has outplayed them both.

by Kaanyr Vhok on Dec 4, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

I can see that

Though I have to disagree about Bayless. He’s shown some good play and has definitely earned his minutes, but he’s not consistently outplaying the other 2 PGs. The potential is there though

What are you impressions of Roy?
"He's just a very, very good basketball player. Very smart. Very heady. He can do a little bit of everything on the court. As coaches, when we scout Portland we kind of put him in the same category as Kobe (Bryant), LeBron (James), Dwyane Wade. We treat him the same. He's that good."

- Byron Scott

by CMCWizard on Dec 4, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this is right

Nate hasn’t been worried about Blake’s struggles this year, because he figured he would snap out of it. And Miller hasn’t been substantively better this year for us than Blake was last year.

But Miller has been better than this year’s Blake, and we’re a quarter of the way into the season, and Miller looked against Miami like he was clicking, and all of a sudden we’re hearing about an change in the lineup….

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Dec 5, 2009 1:40 AM PST up reply actions  

too early to tell

should be a poll option

Enjoy the Ride

by DigitalDaggers on Dec 4, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

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What are you impressions of Roy?
"He's just a very, very good basketball player. Very smart. Very heady. He can do a little bit of everything on the court. As coaches, when we scout Portland we kind of put him in the same category as Kobe (Bryant), LeBron (James), Dwyane Wade. We treat him the same. He's that good."

- Byron Scott

by CMCWizard on Dec 4, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

problem is

Dre is available to be traded in 11 days

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Dec 4, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That may be true

But he has a grand total of 0 starts with Brandon playing his natural 2 position

What are you impressions of Roy?
"He's just a very, very good basketball player. Very smart. Very heady. He can do a little bit of everything on the court. As coaches, when we scout Portland we kind of put him in the same category as Kobe (Bryant), LeBron (James), Dwyane Wade. We treat him the same. He's that good."

- Byron Scott

by CMCWizard on Dec 4, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

i like your profile picture

bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network

by thomasikehara on Dec 4, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

free agents are attracted to money and winning

and parties.

name one big name free agent in the history of ever who who chose to move towns based on less than two of those three criteria.

i can’t, and i’m a nba historiatician.

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on Dec 4, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

I agree

But I would hate to see us lose a free agent to a similar team, Atlanta for example, that is offering roughly the same deal because there is a perception that Portland won’t treat their free agents right

What are you impressions of Roy?
"He's just a very, very good basketball player. Very smart. Very heady. He can do a little bit of everything on the court. As coaches, when we scout Portland we kind of put him in the same category as Kobe (Bryant), LeBron (James), Dwyane Wade. We treat him the same. He's that good."

- Byron Scott

by CMCWizard on Dec 4, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

As official Historiatician I suggest you look at the facts:

1991-steve smith drafted into nba and is awesome
1994-steve smith traded to hawks while still awesome
1996-resigns as free agent with hawks for 7 years under the stipulation that ted turner give him all video copies of all 5 seasons of sanford and sons, at which time only ted turner has the rights to.
probably would have 8 years if turner hadn’t thrown in the episodes after lamont left and fred just hung out with grady and that fat hillbilly.
1999-steve smith traded to the blazers while only pretty good.

Plus I also submit Mary’s Club, Sassys and Union Jacks versus the Gold Club.

Portland can not offer the same money/parties and only an even chance of winning.

Next: I can do this for any town.

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on Dec 4, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course it does, and Portland isn't exactly the FA destination of Kings as it is

I sumit that you’re insane if you don’t think there are a bunch of NBA dudes out there paying attention to how Andre Miller is being treated here.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 4, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!

Just joking. Portland probably ranks slightly above Sacramento in the eyes of NBA players in terms of attractive location. (less cows to drive around)

by xedubx on Dec 4, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

What free agents?!?! he Blazers are gonna be over the cap shortly and forever due to bloated Brandon/LMA/Oden contracts...........
Does the benching / treatment of Andre Miller affect KP’s ability to attract free agents to Portland?

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Dec 4, 2009 4:17 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

We will have an MLE for 2nd tier FA's.

But I think the thesis of this post is wrong. I’m not worried at all about future FA’s based on Miller.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Dec 4, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Should be green

Next time the Blazers have cap space, KP could be gone. And who cares what MLE players thing.

Start Andre Miller NOW to showcase him for a trade.

by tominhawaii on Dec 5, 2009 6:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I only does if we are trying to sign a point guard.

What point guard would want to play here after this? We will have to trade Blake away first, then this wont matter anymore. More concerning for all other FA’s would be playing with Brandon…

by lethaldose on Dec 4, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

But Portland has awesome strip club laws

Which other cities allow the dancers to stick their bare butts in yer face … for a dollar??

by Sheedwasright on Dec 5, 2009 1:24 AM PST reply actions  

Atlanta?

I hear they do more stuff if you have more than a dollar.

by xedubx on Dec 5, 2009 2:01 AM PST up reply actions  

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