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It had to happen sometime, and Monday night turned out to be that time: the Portland Trail Blazers came crashing back to Earth in the Rose Garden. Jerryd Bayless's offense, Brandon Roy's efficiency, the Blazers' team defense, and Juwan Howard, difference maker, could all be found in the wreckage of a 104-93 send-the-fans-home-early, cover-the-spread-then-smother-your-opponent road victory for the Philadelphia 76ers.

After the game, both Nate McMillan and Brandon Roy chalked up the loss to the team's lack of effort.  "The game itself must motivate you, regardless of who you're playing, whether player or team," McMillan reflected. "I thought tonight we just didn't have that scrappiness, that hunger in this game that we need every night." Roy added, "We didn't have that extra gear on defense, just like we didn't on offense, it was a little more effort [needed] and we didn't really have it, especially down the stretch."

Their assessment seems accurate, to a point.  When the Blazers needed to turn it on -- trailing by double digits in the fourth quarter -- they simply couldn't do it.  The jumpers weren't falling -- the team was just 5 of 15 from deep -- and that was pretty much that.  But even if the shots had been falling from outside -- even if Roy (9 for 20), Bayless (0-7), Martell Webster (2-7), Blake (4 of 10) or Dante Cunningham (2 of 6) provided timely, voluminous offense -- it wouldn't have been enough tonight.  Not when the 76ers shot 57.7% from the field as a team (!!!), racked up 60 points in the paint and tacked on 16 fast break points (runouts, alleyoops, you name it... the Sixers didn't miss) for the highlight reel.  Not when the guys who got battered down low -- LaMarcus Aldridge, Jeff Pendergraph and Juwan Howard -- all gave solid efforts.  Aldridge finished with 17 points, 12 rebounds, a block and an assist.  Pendergraph had a career-high 11 points and 5 rebounds in less than 19 sometimes-spectacular minutes.  Juwan Howard went 3 for 5 for 6 points and 3 rebounds, playing hard as always. 

Despite those efforts the Blazers lost the second half 61-44 against a team that is just 8--22.  When it mattered, they were helpless against a past-his-prime Elton Brand (25 and 9), a past-his-prime-squared Allen Iverson (19, 5 and 4), and a hasn't-yet-had-a-prime-but-it-sounds-like-fun Marreese Speights (14 and 2).  Oh, yeah, Sam Dalembert (14, 8, 2, 3 blocks) went way off too. It was coming from all sides and there were no answers.

And this is the grim reality that will be faced sooner rather than later for the Blazers: not showing up will lead to losses, almost without exception.  Showing up in part will lead to more losses than they might wish. And showing up in full won't necessarily lead to wins, either.  So it goes when you're this depleted. 

Asked what adjustments might have been made to prevent the loss, Roy said that the Blazers hadn't properly defended Brand. "We were supposed to front Elton in the post. And we just weren't getting around him. For what reason, I don't know. We were letting him catch the ball too easily and he was scoring on us. And not just him, all their players were just scoring in the paint. We gotta do a better job, we just didn't execute the gameplan."   

For his part, McMillan maintained that his late-game strategy would stay the same despite the fact that his 4 guard lineup of Bayless or Miller plus Blake/Roy/Webster/Aldridge leaked baskets and free throws down the stretch, making a comeback all but impossible. Asked if he would look to go bigger at the end of games, McMillan responded with a touch of defiance, "Why? We're down 11. So we need scoring. The bigs weren't playing the whole game so you try to make up 11 points, 13 points, with 4 minutes to go. Having bigs out there who aren't guarding -- we went to a spread option to try to speed up the game."  

Manufacturing speed definitely makes some sense.  On this night, an increased zip on the offensive side was missing and badly-needed, particularly in the second half.  But McMIllan's defense of his late-game rationale obscures a deeper, 48-minute-a-night problem: fast or slow, the Blazers can't manufacture size.

Help is needed.  Maybe not every single night.  But a lot of nights, including this one.

Random Game Notes

  • Before the game, Blazers Assistant Coach Monty WIlliams was d-ing up on Steve Blake.  A Blake fake (rhyme time) sent Williams crashing to the ground in apparent pain.  After checking his shoelaces and flexing his ankle, Williams got up and continued through the drill, with a grimace or two for good measure.  On any other team, at any other time, this wouldn't warrant a mention. While it happened, it felt like a potential national headline.  These are the days of our lives.
  • As I first reported back on December 17th, Nicolas Batum has been shooting jumpers before games.  His shot this evening looked OK.  Not a particularly clean stroke, thought it never was.  The results hovered in the 50%ish range from 18 feet. Let me just throw it out there: I see absolutely no reason to rush Nicolas Batum back. Let's remember that this is the same kid who attended nearly every practice after being injured, showing up in a sling to dribble the ball with his off hand and listen in to the coach's instructions.  Batum's will to play and desire to compete are unquestioned.  He's ruthless and more than capable of playing through pain. That's why he was briefly dubbed Nicky Barnes last year.   Let's hope that both the team and the player realize the many benefits of taking the most conservative approach possible when it comes to Batum's timeline.  
  • Taking that a step further, assuming Rudy Fernandez comes back first and the Blazers use their second hardship exemption on a center, Batum's return wlll leave the Blazers without Anthony Tolliver and Unknown Center X.  While his return will certainly relieve Webster of some minutes and help reduce the wear and tear on Roy, it will also serve to thin out the Blazers' frontcourt, their biggest area of need that has no chance for reinforcement, barring trade.  The question boils down to: would you rather have a healthy center or a recovering Nicolas Batum for, say, the month between the end of January and the end of February?   I know it's counterintuitive to want a non-NBA player instead of a potential starter but with such a distinct positional need, it's a question worth asking, especially in the short-term.
  • Blazers Owner Paul Allen's courtside seat was empty tonight.
  • McMillan again showed some flexibility in his guard rotations, leaning on Andre Miller when Bayless faltered. Miller had a few sensational passes -- including a great look for a Pendergraph dunk -- on his way to 11 points, 7 assists and 4 rebounds.  One of his better performances recently. 
  • He may or may not know it yet but it took just two games for it to become do-or-die time once again for Jerryd Bayless. While he made some decent reads and limited his turnovers, Bayless must score -- and score in bunches -- to truly impact games. Doing that without going overboard is an almost inconceivably tricky balancing act. Above all else, he must shoot efficiently.  For the record, 0-7 from the field with just two free throw attempts is not an efficient performance.
  • Jeff Pendergraph was shown on television leaving the court briefly to head to the locker room due to an apparent knee injury.  After the game he called it "just a bump" and said he would practice tomorrow.  He was heavily-iced and receiving extra bandages from a member of the training staff. 
  • Questions have been coming in tonight about the latest on-air personality for Comcast Sports Northwest. Her name is Dianna Russini. TheBigLead.com has some background.  Laura Green is sidelined, having just given birth recently.
  • It will be interesting to see if this tweet sent from Martell Webster's account during the game will result in a fine from the NBA league office. The tweet clearly states that it was not sent by Webster and was instead sent by member(s) of his foundation's staff.  In the past, the league has fined players for tweets sent on their accounts, even if they weren't sent by the player himself.  Both Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler were fined for tweets that occured during games but that didn't originate from the player himself.   Good eyes Blaze of Love
  • Isn't it a bit insensitive and uncouth to have Blazers Assistant Coach Bill Bayno participating in the "Corona's Coach's Corner" segment of the television show pre-game?

Nate McMillan's Post-Game Comments

Struggling against small, up-tempo teams

The first thing is, we didn't establish ourselves on the defensive end all night long. I thought we played on our heels. We are a team that, we gotta be the aggressors from start to finish. Tonight, I thought we were on our heels. Once again we're down in the fourth quarter, we're trying to make a run to come back. We're not good enough to do that every night. We give up 61 points in the second half. They get 60 points in the paint. We never establish ourselves defensively. And then offensively, some of the guys making shots late, didn't make shots. I thought we tightened up going down the stretch.

Jump shot heavy?

We had some shots -- I need to look at the film -- we were a step slow I thought all night long. The movement, the ball movement, setting our screens, getting up, getting the hits, we didn't -- we kind of walked the ball up the floor. It was a lot of taking the ball out of the basket. Just the tempo -- I didn't think we got to our tempo. They played their tempo, walking the ball down the floor, running the Princeton offense, attacking us. Elton Brand came off. We really didn't have any defense for him, their bigs tonight coming off the bench tonight. After the made bucket we never really got into a flow offensively. 

How discouraging is this loss?

It's a loss. We didn't play as well as we're capable of playing. I didn't think we came with that sense of urgency that we've seen. It's a loss. If it was another team it would be the same. This team beat us last year twice. We can play better. We didn't tonight. Just like we won those games we lose this tonight. We've got to put this behind us and get ourselves ready for another team that is going to be under .500 and got some guys that can play.

Talk about the Clippers

This same thing. This same thing. Having yourself ready is a skill. Not using or having a jersey, a name or an all star to motivate you, the game itself must motivate you, regardless of who you're playing, whether player or team. I thought tonight we just didn't have that scrappiness, that hunger in this game that we need every night.

Being thin in the interior

Well, Brand, size, he pretty much dominated the paint. We really had no answer for that. A couple of times we could get double teams on him and they were able to knock down some shots from the perimeter. I just thought they -- that sense of urgency that we played with and we play with mainly in the fourth quarter, we couldn't get to that tonight. We were missing our shots, they were coming down and scoring, as the game just got deeper into that fourth quarter, I just saw us really not have that confidence in our shots, not taking them and they continued to get stops and score.

Consistency

That's something that we are working on. Every night getting your team to play with that energy is what coaches have to do. Tonight we didn't get to that. They pretty much controlled this game from start to finish. 

Was Iverson their energy boost tonight?

He's going to attack. He's going to be aggressive. Tonight he certainly was able to score and provide another option for them. But Elton Brand and their bigs coming off the bench were the guys that really established themselves. Then some other guys were able to knock down some shots I think made us hesitant double teaming the post and having to guard the perimeter.

Does this game make you re-think going small down the stretch?

Why? We're down 11. So we need scoring. The bigs weren't playing the whole game so you try to make up 11 points, 13 points, with 4 minutes to go. Having bigs out there who aren't guarding -- we went to a spread option to try to speed up the game.

Does your reaction to a loss change because you're so short-handed?

Well, you know, again we know that we can play better than tonight. Regardless of who we have in uniform we can play better than this. For us, that 's what we are looking at. Reacting -- my reaction is no different than if I have our all guys in uniform. We can play better than we did. We weren't -- we didn't bring that energy. I've got to look at what I did and what we did on the floor, look at that tape. You know, you can win when you have the energy and you'll lose regardless of who you're playing if you don't. We didn't have that scrappiness tonight.

-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter

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why not? Philly got like 900 points in the paint

although i guess you have a point that it’s beating a dead horse at this point to call LMA soft. by the way…those 15 rebounds that Oden was getting that some people used as an excuse before…why isn’t he getting those now? 8 reb + 15 reb = 12 reb ????

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 29, 2009 6:46 AM PST up reply actions  

also it seems like Roy is blaming LMA also

"Asked what adjustments might have been made to prevent the loss, Roy said that the Blazers hadn’t properly defended Brand. “We were supposed to front Elton in the post. And we just weren’t getting around him. For what reason, I don’t know. We were letting him catch the ball too easily and he was scoring on us. And not just him, all their players were just scoring in the paint. We gotta do a better job, we just didn’t execute the gameplan.”

Here’s a hint Brandon: LMA is a cream puff

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 29, 2009 6:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Brand outweighs LMA by how much?

it was a mismatch – and the Blazers failed to adjust as a team. That starts with the coach.

Every team with size should be able to exploit the Blazers. Denver did not. The Sixers did.

You overcome this by playing team defense, and LMA was hardly to blame for the terrible perimeter defense that opened up the inside game for Brand to go to town.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 29, 2009 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I would have liked to have seen Aldridge guarding Dalembert and Pendergraph guarding Brand

OK...so girls in movies where guys wear hockey masks have a better survival rate than the average Blazer player. - Dave

by 22baylor on Dec 29, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

LMA is quicker than Dalembert by how much?

Bulk isn’t always where it’s at

That said I agree the perimeter defense was awful

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 29, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

So how is it the coach's fault ...

… when he lacks the bigs to match up with other teams?

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 29, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

team defense?

The Blazers don’t match up with anyone, right now – but still found a way to beat bigger teams recently. The problem is that the Blazers were unable to adapt to the Sixers’ adjustments in the second half.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 29, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

Horrible mismatch. We have no one who can stop Brand right now. And Dalembert was hitting 15 foot jump shots when we sagged off of him, so there was no one to help on Brand. They were making their shots, we stopped making ours, end of story.

If Jerryd makes a couple open shots, if Brandon or LMA shoots well, that is a different ball-game. We might have had a 15-18 point lead instead of 10, and they wouldn’t have been coming back.

#5 #10 #52 #88

by jscot on Dec 30, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Possible rent-a-centers that may be available

Brendon haywood – if the wizards implode and theyre halfway there

eddy curry – hes huge and possibly available soon to sign after a buyout

Marcus camby – big contract but big time veteran defender

pendy – if he gets in game shape, he can be our chuck hayes for the rest of the year

by JMLakaShotCaller on Dec 29, 2009 1:19 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

when it's counterintuitive like this, usually means it's wrong
I know it’s counterintuitive to want a non-NBA player instead of a potential starter but with such a distinct positional need, it’s a question worth asking, especially in the short-term.

I wouldn’t hold off Batum’s return just for an unknown D-leaguer who may never see any playing time anyway. Besides the obvious long-term reason (his development), it benefits us short term as well – it’d cause Roy to play less at SF and eventually help reduce Roy’s total minutes.

by iverigma2 on Dec 29, 2009 1:31 AM PST reply actions  

agreed

but on the flip side, I wouldn’t have Batum come back early either – wait until he’s fully healthy, conditioned, and ready to play. Nothing positive in bringing him back too early and risky a re-injury.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Dec 29, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

wow

this game was a real kick to the gut.

 BTW classy move by everyone involved in blowing the lid off of someone belonging to Martells foundation tweeting “let’s go!” on his account during a game. Is that really news worthy? Oh boy it could be !

by meatwad3 on Dec 29, 2009 1:58 AM PST reply actions  

what?

you think this is lame?

http://www.mwebster8.com/foundation.html

What about Paul Allen’s Foundadtion? Is that one lame, too?

by Section323 on Dec 29, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

rec

foundations are great. That’s how rich people give back to the community.

That, and taxes. Thank you rich people, including Martell. – Elgin

OK...so girls in movies where guys wear hockey masks have a better survival rate than the average Blazer player. - Dave

by 22baylor on Dec 29, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

if they're actually giving money away in the community

it’s a good thing.
I agree that many athlete’s foundations are a little weird, but it’s not a given.

Martell’s must be new, with the “23” and all, so time will tell.

by Section323 on Dec 29, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Lots of players have foundations (this list isn't inclusive)

Carmelo, Anthony, Gilbert Arenas, Ron Artest, Chris Bosh, Elton Brand, Marcus Camby, Vince Carter, Tim Duncan, Channing Frye, Kevin Garnett, Manu Ginobili, Dwight Howard, Juwan Howard, Allen Iverson, LeBron James, Magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, Andrei Kirilenko, Jamaal Magloire, Tracy McGrady, Alonzo Mourning, Dikembe Mutombo, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki, Lamar Odom, Jermaine O’Neal, Gary Payton, Chris Paul, Paul Pierce, Brandon Roy, Dwayne Wade, Chris Webber, Yao Ming

Some player foundations are more active than others, but to lump all these players together as “lame” is, well, lame.

by Corvid on Dec 29, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

not really

No one ‘makes money’ off starting a foundation. Yes you can write off expenses but it costs you more in the end. There are some legit foundations out there started by athletes but the reality is many of them are actually ways for them to get their ‘posse’ jobs. The players want to pay their friends, their agent wants to improve their image so they start a foundation. That’s the real issue with them. Most players would do more good by just donating money. No idea how Martell’s is run though, just saying this is the reality for many of them.

by ericande on Dec 29, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Many many of those are definitely "legit" (also not conclusive)

The Carmelo Anthony Foundation, www.carmelocares.org (he has given millions to Syracuse, Baltimore, Denver charities)
Zero Two Hero, Gilbert Arenas, www.gilsarena.com
Xcel University, Ron Artest, www.ronartest.com
The CB4 Foundation, Chris Bosh, wwww.chrisboshfoundation.org
The Bruce Bowen Foundation, Bruce Bowen, www.brucebowen.com/foundation.html
The Greg Buckner Foundation, Greg Buckner, www.gregbucknerfoundation.net
The Cambyland Foundation, Marcus Camby, www.cambyland.com
Embassy of Hope Foundation, Vince Carter, www.vincecarter15.com/embassy/
Rebound to Rebound, Tyson Chandler, www.tysonchandler.com/community
Jamal Crawford Foundation, www.jamalcrawford.org/foundation
Ricky Davis Foundation, www.rickydavis31.com/foundation
Shan Foster Foundation, www.shanfosterfoundation.com
The Randy Foye Foundation, www.therandyfoyefoundation.org
Democracy Matters Foundation, Adonal Foyle, www.adonalfoyle.com/democracy_matters.shtml
C. Frye Foundation, Channing Frye, www.channingfrye.com/cfrye-about.html
Fundacion Manu Ginobili, Manu Ginobili, www.fundacion.manuginobili.com
Hoops For Heart Health, Ryan Gomes, www.hoopsforhearthealth.org
Rip City Foundation, Richard Hamilton, www.ripcity.com/foundation
The Dwight D. Howard Foundation Inc., Dwight Howard, www.dwight-howard.com/foundationwhatwedo.html
The Josh Howard Foundation, Josh Howard, www.joshhoward.com/index.php?q=node/30 (definitely legit. I have seen them work in North Carolina)
Larry Hughes Foundation, Larry Hughes, www.larryhughesfoundation.com
Jack 1 Foundation, Stephen Jackson, www.stephenjackson1.com/foundation
Jason Kidd Foundation, www.jasonkidd.com/foundation
Kirilenko’s Kids, Andrei Kirilenko, www.kirilenkokids.com
Shaun Livingston Foundation, www.shaunlivingstonfoundation.org (he did events for them even while injured dangerously)
Youth Deserve a Chance to Dream, Jamaal Magloire, www.jamaalmagloire.com/YDCD
Tracy McGrady Foundation, Tracy McGrady, www.t-mac.com/tmac/foundation
Mike Miller Foundation, www.mikemiller33.com/foundation.php
Alonzo Mourning Charities, www.amcharities.org
Dikembe Mutombo Foundation, www.dmf.org (most definitely legit)
The Steve Nash Foundation, Steve Nash, www.stevenash.org
Dirk Nowitzki Foundation, www.dirk-nowitzki-foundation.org (also seen them do some small-scale work)
Jermaine O’Neal Foundation, www.j7o.com/oneal/foundation
CP3 Foundation, Chris Paul, www.chrispaul3.com/cp3.html
The Truth Fund, Paul Pierce, www.paulpierce.net/go (I know he has bought special seats for each game whose proceeds go to fight obesity. He likely does more back home)
Brandon Roy Foundation, http://www.broy7.com/roy/foundation/ (academic support for talents after he witnesses his brother and himself struggle with that to enter college, and other projects)
Shoot For The Moon Foundation, Eric Snow, www.shoot4themoon.org
Triple Threat Foundation, Jerry Stackhouse, www.jerrystackhouse.com/triple threat
Peja Stojakovic Children’s Foundation, www.pejastojakovic.org (have seen multiple events for that)
Damon Stoudmire, www.stoudamire.com
The Jason Terry Foundation, www.jasonterryfoundation.org (hosts camps in all cities he ever played for and in Seattle)
Wade’s World Foundation, Dwyane Wade, www.wadesworldfoundation.org
Rasheed A. Wallace Foundation, www.rasheedwallacefourndation.com
Point of Hope Foundation, Deron Williams, www.deronwilliams.net/pointofhope/foundation
The Yao Ming Foundation, www.theyaomingfoundation.org (contributed a lot after the earthquake in China)

by Norsktroll on Dec 29, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Had a bad feeling about this game

When Roy was saying “We want to blow them out” – that told me he was thinking that beating the 76ers would be easy. They can’t afford to go into any game with that attitude, no matter who the opponent.

Plus, Philly has had their number recently – why assume it’s gonna be a cakewalk? Hope they learn something from this.

by greenknight on Dec 29, 2009 3:11 AM PST reply actions  

Obvious lack of effort from the start.
“The game itself must motivate you, regardless of who you’re playing, whether player or team,” McMillan reflected. “I thought tonight we just didn’t have that scrappiness, that hunger in this game that we need every night.”

The team didn’t respect the 76ers and lost. The injury ravaged Blazers don’t have the luxury of playing half-speed and win.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Dec 29, 2009 3:32 AM PST reply actions  

yeah

the first half it looked like Portland was in control the entire time, but didn’t have any “put them away” instinct, and instead just kind of let Philly keep hanging around. Same thing in the early 3rd when we went up 61-51. We seemed to let up, Philly started attacking the paint, and they proceeded to go on a huge run.

Our defense killed us tonight. Absolutely abysmal defensive effort. No rotations, no help, no effort.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Dec 29, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

This is not a one game occurence.

I still remember the Kings game 2 years ago where Roy and the Blazers didn’t bother to put up any effort to win. I went back and found what I wrote.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/4/12/19011/8165

I think those comments are unacceptable

I love Brandon Roy and the Blazers. What he just said was tacitly acknowledging the Blazers didn’t care enough to put worth a winning effort. As the leader of the team, he’s got to learn that he is the catalyst.

The Kings were in the exact position as the Blazers. Out of the playoffs and nothing to play for. Except they put in a winning effort and the Blazers didn’t. It is just unacceptable no matter what excuse or circumstance. The team was rested, but most of them didn’t put forth a winning effort.

I wish Nate would’ve pulled Roy, Blake, and Jones in the 1st quarter to embarrassed them and light a fire.

Remember the whole “culture” mantra? You let the small things slide, then it can slowly corrupt what you’ve built. Finish the season strong fellas.

I think LMA has this issue as well. The team feeds off LMA and Roy, and both those guys definitely did not bother to show up.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Dec 29, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I take exception to posts like these

“results-based analysis” is a fallacy regardless if you are arguing stats or something far more undefinable – “heart”.

You can say the Blazers didn’t show up, but you would be wrong. Everyone points the finger at “effort” and “will” when a game is lost that on paper, was winnable.

More to the point, the Blazers won the first half and lost the second half because the Sixers made an adjustment and the Blazers didn’t counter. The Sixers made shots and the Blazers missed shots.

But the Blazers did just fine in the half-court sets (defensively). Where they failed was early in the shot clock or on transition. Even if they had a body back to match up, the Sixer bigs were in iso situations with no help available and they had momentum in transition. When bigs are scoring in transition, that is very difficult to stop. Once that happened, the entire defensive scheme broke down from the inside out.

The only way to slow that deadly spiral is to score and get everyone back and force the Sixers into a half-court offense. The Blazers couldn’t score efficiently enough.

That is not the same thing as “not showing up”. That is a fallacious crutch abused way too often by fans looking for a scapegoat. It was no more valid for this game than it was two years ago.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 29, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

sorry, I've got to strongly disagree with this:
But the Blazers did just fine in the half-court sets (defensively).

while I agree they certainly got torched in transition and secondary transition, their halfcourt defense after the halfttime break was far from “just fine”. They got absolutely torched in the halfcourt sets, by what appeared to be a combination of poor coaching adjustments (failing to double down on a hot Brand with a mismatch), and poor or nonexistent rotations and help defense.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Dec 29, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Matter of opinion?

As I recall, most of the Sixers’ damage came early in the shot clock. Unfortunately, I lack specific data to support my observation.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 29, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

agree with both of you

it’s tough to condense the finer details into a “game summary”…because each adopts their own perspective…..the bottom line (albeit oversimplifying) is the the Blazers have no fundamental soundness to fall back on when shots don’t fall, teams shut down your regular stuff, and coaching strategy falls short…..
    if you are a fundamentally sound team, then you can always rely on it to get you back in focus….the Blazers continue to prove that they lack in this area….This is mostly on the coaches and includes conditioning…..
    defense is an issue and the transition game (both offense and defense) is a “D-” at best…..
    Most of this starts in training camp, and then you build on it, as the season progresses….clearly it’s coaching that jump starts this….the players have to get it, buy in, and make it automatic and instinctive……
    hustle, desire and effort will also become automatic….Not showing up for a game is about as lame as one could get…..being tired or a marked man is more reasonable, but good players rise above and good conditioning could overcome this…..
   The Blazers continue to prove that they are having difficulty getting to the next level…..You would have to consider coaching is a lot of the issue….
  you would have to think that this season (with all the injuries) would be a good time to “bite the bullet” and get the “gritty” part of this game accomplished…..

 and I have to say, that historical data, is a very poor way of justifying the outcome of a game……just go out and play ball…it starts out 0-0 and what it ends up depends on you….even if you only score 79….if the other team gets 75 …. you win
   Could be that entertainment gets sacrificed in the meantime….so sometimes the smile is not as broad when you scratch out the win…..(you can always get the smiles back the next game)

by WyEast on Dec 29, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

It's not hard to spot the times when the Blazers don't play with much effort.

You can tell by how they are running the offense. Whether they are pushing the tempo or making hard cuts on offense. It’s much easier to see it on the defensive end. I knew the Blazers didn’t bring it when the Sixers were shooting a sizzling percentage at halftime. In the first half the Sixers made unforced errors and turned the ball over, in the 2nd half, they didn’t. The Blazers defense was a sieve all night long and their effort was a big part of it.

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by blzrfan on Dec 29, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

This is simply incorrect

If you fail to identify the root cause, you are doomed to repeat the error. This game was lost due to bad game planning or bad execution. If you think it was simply effort you miss an opportunity to fix the real problem and deal with it.

I don’t just blame fans for the “effort” excuse – I blame players and coaches for relying on this crutch as well.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 29, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I can't explain something that you don't believe in.

Great game plans don’t matter when there’s no energy or urgency. Especially on a team that is lacking in talent and big bodies. Effort, hustle, or whatever people want to call it, is a tangible part of basketball, especially on defense.

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by blzrfan on Dec 29, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't believe it is just "effort".

Mindset has something to do with it.

If you believe that you are going to win, that even if the other team makes a run, you will be able to pull it out because you have in the past, then you have set yourself up for failure. At least you have if you are in Portland’s situation. Sure a Boston or LA can have that attitude. But they also have a full roster. Portland’s margin for error is much less.

I am curious how the Blazers can win for straight games against winning teams, all of which were games that a reasonable person could have expect the team to lose and still have fans who say the coaching staff can’t game plan sufficiently well. If we win, it is due to the effort of the players and when we lose it is because the coaches sucked? I think this reasoning deserves a name. Call it the AGW methodolgy of reasoning.

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by timg56 on Dec 29, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

most of the time

loses bring out many things that get overlooked in wins…even coaching….the bottom line usually points to being a fundamentally sound team…the Blazers are still maturing and continue to lack the ability to fall back on basic fundamentals to get them out of a “funk”…
   the injuries should give them a better understanding of hard work and firming up the fundamentals(also the importance of good conditioning)……you will see, when they begin to get it……they will be able to instinctively adjust during game situations (things become automatic)…right now, they sometimes need coaching intervention………….. even though the majority of this should get done in practice and training camp…..this( IMO) is the only legitimate coaching question or concern(but it is a major one)

by WyEast on Dec 29, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Dalembert and Brand both had good games

The Blazers weren’t prepared to defend either. Neither did the Blazers have an adjustment to counter the Sixers’ second half adjustments. Game planning and in-game adjustments both appeared to be flawed.

However, as I have noted elsewhere – game planning and adjustments aren’t just for defense.

My observation was that the coaches wanted to force Roy and LMA down Philly’s throat in the second half, and were surprised when Philly was able to exploit that strategy. Coaches were surprised, players were surprised.

If we had seen even one Webster post-up on Iverson, we could at least say that the Blazer coaches recognized a mismatch and tried to exploit it. However, we saw nary a one, and the coaches can’t use the excuse that the right plays were improperly executed.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 29, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Holiday hangover

OK...so girls in movies where guys wear hockey masks have a better survival rate than the average Blazer player. - Dave

by 22baylor on Dec 29, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Like I said last night, the 'tired' excuse is a lame one usually but tonight it was legit

I’m as critical as anyone and I’m willing to throw this one out the window. Let’s see how they respond against Cream Puff #2

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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 29, 2009 6:43 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

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One bad performance after a string of good ones isn’t going to make me hypercritical of these guys.

Critical, yes. Hypercritical, no. – Elgin

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by 22baylor on Dec 29, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Portland lost to the Sixers.

What’s new about that.

I’m dissappointed, as they were a team the Blazers should have beaten, but then they have been a team we should beat every time we’ve played them the past several years. But we don’t.

Who here didn’t think this was a game Portland was more likely to lose than win? So the expected happened. It’s not worth time berating the players and coaches. Lets just hope the guys take away the lesson that they will only win if they bring it every night no matter whom the opponent.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 29, 2009 7:32 AM PST reply actions  

they shoulda learned that lesson long ago

im not sure what that speaks to: lack of motivation from the coach, lack of a drive to compete from the players…who knows.

But it happens a lot. I think that single thing is what separates the so so teams from the great ones.

Boston is something like 13-3 on the road this season. They don’t like to lose. It seems they hate it. Likewise for the Lakers. Tell me which player(s) on the Blazers you saw stung by the loss last night. None of them judging from what I’ve seen. When losing becomes acceptable, you become a loser. That’s why tanking this season isn’t an option.

But on the other hand, maybe it’s time to come to grips with the fact that this team lacks a Kobe-like competitor.

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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 29, 2009 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

i don't think this team is ok with losing any more

than boston or L.A. It is ironic that all three teams lost last night, but I get your point. I think that boston and L.A. are more able to win at this point, but it is not their hatred of losing that keeps it from happening. The great level of talent and veteran presences on both teams lend alot to their winning ways. It is also interesting to note that of their losses boston tends to lose to sub .500 teams (5of7). I’m not saying it’s ok to come out flat because your expecting a walk in the park, I’m just pointing out that it’s not a phenomena unique to the blazers. granted L.A. doesn’t have that problem with only 1 loss to a sub .500 team but I think you see my point.

i do think that BRoy will prove to be a top echelon player in this league comparable even to kobe. Very few players can put the ball in the hoop purely with their will, but BRoy is one of them. I swear sometimes he’s using mind powers.

by jervil on Dec 29, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, we're supposed to expect to lose

to 8-22 teams at home now? We were obviously due for a let down at some point, but any halfway decent team will expect to beat a bad team like Philly at home, streak or not. Let down games happen, but they wouldn’t be characterized as let down games if everyone expected them.

I’m all for not getting too riled about last night because we’ve picked up some good wins recently, but let’s not go overboard with the apologetics. That’s a game we should, and did, expect to win coming into it. Portraying it as something else is just going out of our way to make excuses.

#52

by Royster on Dec 29, 2009 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

The Blazers lost for a reason

and I believe it was scouting and coaching:

1) The Blazers apparently planned to front Brand (a non starter, btw) – but failed to do so. This is because Brand was shooting early in the clock or simply hitting tough shots. Once he got easy baskets, he got all baskets. He was a snowball rolling downhill that had to be stopped early, but once he wasn’t – he wasn’t stoppable at all.

2) The Blazers could not exploit their mismatches on offense. This was a game where the Blazers had to score from a variety of positions, but instead of following the pattern from early in the first quarter, the Blazers came out in the second trying to establish Roy and LMA – at the expense of the rest of the Blazers. It backfired. Forcing offense is never a good thing. Beating teams up with matchup difficulties is a good thing. The Sixers found their good thing with speed on the outside and size on the inside. The Blazers were on their heels and never got their balance.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 29, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

agree completely

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Dec 29, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Last time I checked ....

… the scouts and coaches are not the ones on the court executing.

I don’t think this game needs any insightful analysis from the BE Experts Panel to determine what went wrong. Portland relaxed at the half. They had a 6 point lead and at times led by double digits. They were hitting their three’s. It seems pretty obvious that they started the third quarter thinking they were going to win the game.

Funny thing is, you can’t think that until the clock ticks down to zero. The best coach in the world hasn’t much of a chance to impact the game when his players have already mentally chalked up a win before the game is half over. He can rant all he wants. The players nod their heads and tell themselves that they will just pick it up and win as expected. About the only option you have as a coach when that happens is to try playing guys off the bench to see if they have more fire. That really isn’t an option open to Nate.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 29, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Who exactly is making excuses?

No excuse for losing to the Sixers, other than the simple fact that even the bottom feeders manage to win games from time to time.

But just as one should not be making excuses, pointing fingers and fault finding is also a waste of time.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 29, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Having had to do root cause and failure analysis as a Component Reliability Eng.

I tend to differentiate between identifying what is going wrong from assigning blame.

In this instance, none of us is privy to the sort of information we need to perform an effective analysis. When one operates under those sort of conditions, the only outcome one will get is the assignment of blame, accurate or not.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 29, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

If you have performed that kind of analysis

then you should be fully aware that properly trained individuals such as ourselves are far better equipped to perform accurate analysis – and apply that analysis – than probably anyone in the Blazer organization.

Don’t sell yourself (or me) short.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 29, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe .... if we have access to the same information.

As we don’t, I don’t believe I’m selling myself or anyone else short.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Dec 31, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That was a game

which tells us we need to re-evaluate our expectations. A team with big bruisers and shot-blockers is going to be a big threat to us, even if they aren’t very good.

I actually think if we played 10 home games against Phoenix and ten against Philly, we’d do better against Phoenix right now. Phoenix has no shot blocker to shut down our penetration, and only one scoring big man (Channing doesn’t count, because his offensive threat is entirely outside).

The only way we beat a team like that is to shoot reasonably well. We did in the first half, but shot horribly in the second.

#5 #10 #52 #88

by jscot on Dec 30, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

After the last couple games,

It looks like teams are starting to scout Bayless. It’s not going to be so easy for him now that teams know who he is.

by Coastie07 on Dec 29, 2009 8:25 AM PST reply actions  

It would help if he'd make his jump shots

That would open things up for him. He was getting enough open shots, they just weren’t dropping.

He’ll struggle against teams with a real shotblocker inside, too.

#5 #10 #52 #88

by jscot on Dec 30, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he'll have to work on it for a while before they're afraid of his jump shot.

Right now they’re starting to focus on either doubling him up to stop penetration or making him pay physically on his drives. He’s gotten a taste of how different the game is when you’re in the other team’s game plan. This point has been missed on the people here that wanted him to start already.

by Coastie07 on Dec 31, 2009 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

eeeek.... that was ugly...

The Blazers didn’t really look like they were in attack mode and Philly did. I don’t know how many lay-ups they got, but it was not pretty. I swear a couple of times they just walked to the basket and layed it in…

by jenstcy on Dec 29, 2009 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

My only consolation for this lost is...

that Denver lost in Sacramento last night, so the Blazers are still only 1/2 game behind them. That team is crap without Chauncey Billups. What are they, like 1-7 without him?? Amazing….

by jenstcy on Dec 29, 2009 9:12 AM PST reply actions  

60 points in the paint?

I think the statistician was going easy on the Blazers.

I am no professional stats analyst but as a season ticket holder I at least know that a layup, lob pass for a dunk, tip in follow, etc are all “points in the paint”. They had the sixers with 58 pts in the paint with about 8 minutes left in the 4th. There were at least 12-16 pts scored at the rim during that period but the sixers only ended up with 60. I would say it was easily closer to 74. Thats an obscene percentage for a team with very little size.

They showed how effective motion without the ball can be. We continue to be godawful at any movement off the ball. Our offense always moves away from the basket rather than towards it. Too bad because we have one of the best pentrators in Roy and hes a good passer as well. If we just had Webster, LA, etc cutting to the hoop instead of standing around or worse yet moving away from the paint, I think we could score some easier baskets than always shooting from deep.

I think its another classic example of how Nate tries to bend players around his style rather than leveraging their skills….

And I have to comment on the 3 on 1 fast break at the end where you knew Nate’s style is to pass awy from the rim and take a three, Yes we were down by 11 at the time, but how do you take a 3 on 1 and end up with a bricked three in the corner.

When I think back to how many fast break points the Drexler era team scored and how pretty the break looked I realize how much fun basketball can be to watch. Our team is not fun to watch with nate’s style. We make every possession so difficult. At least it seems that way to me.

TP FOR 3

by WhereInTheWorldIsDontonioWingfield on Dec 29, 2009 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

Steve Blake

I have always liked Blake. He has been a good player for this team. But last night was not a Steve Blake kind of game. It was a Jerryd Bayless kind of game. Coach M made the wrong choice when he took Bay out with about 9 minutes to go. And Bay didn’t get enough run in the first half, either. Coach M needs to give the kid more run, and stick with him if he isn’t necessarily rolling right away. I was never a big Bay fan until the last 7 or so games. Now I am convinced he should get to play every night whether he starts hot or not. We need his athleticism, energy and scoring every night to help make up for our lack of size and depth. I am sure there are some nights when Blakey should get more run, but I think it should be more against slower tempo teams or in more grind it out games. This game was not a Stevie Blakey game, and coach M failed to perceive that. Also Pendergraph was absolutely balling.

by goblazer1 on Dec 29, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions  

Bayless was tentative last night

and all his pull up J’s were short. That has been his characteristic both of these last two home games after shooting lights out on the road and previously in short minutes.

I’m thinking Bayless is struggling a little with personal expectations, rather than playing loosy goosy.

by blacknoiseNW on Dec 29, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Bayless...

couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn last night. Just wasn’t a good shooting night for him. Although he does play better defehse than Blake…..

by jenstcy on Dec 29, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Bayless likely would have found his flow if he had gotten enough playing time

He deserved to play over Blake. I think the outcome could have likely been different if Coach M hadn’t continued to play Blake as the first or second player off the bench. Just my opinion.

by goblazer1 on Dec 29, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

JB was off

he wouldn’t of done any better than Blake, maybe defensively.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

by RyanRTE on Dec 29, 2009 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

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