Roy is officially 1a in my book
What i mean is, Clyde Drexler still is and may always be my favorite blazer of all time but after what i have seen Roy do in his time in this league (including tonight's gem) he is officially 1a to Drexlers #1 status.
Tonight's Game was the best example of Roys greatness that could be provided.As Ben wrote He felt let down by last years effort and preparation and took this game personally. Can i just offer a suggestion: can someone, anyone make Roy mad and have him take every game personally. We would go 82-0. All kidding aside, this was a performance that few NBA players can put up. Every time Denver would make a run it almost seemed like Roy said "now your gonna wanna stop that or i am gonna get mad. trust me you dont want that." Denver never really quit, and in the 4th Roy pulled out a Popeye size can-of-whoop "butt." His performance was a thing of beauty, drives to the basket, impossible running floaters, mid range jumpers, clutch threes, it was only a superstar performance in a huge game, on a huge stage, HUGE. What i loved most though was his defense, he was matched up on Melo for a good portion of the game and played him as tough as i have ever seen anyone play Carmelo. The energy it takes to play lockdown style D and then put 41 on offense is also of superstar caliber.
Even if Tonights game had never been played Roy has still given us more moments at 1/3 or so through the 4th year of his career. My favorite being when he told Z-bo how much of a douche he was, to get dressed down by a rookie when your a 20-10 guy(and a total doucher) is awsome! The Phoenix 52, the tear drop at Houston, the Block on Carmelo at the end of a regular season game(last year i think) to seal the win all come to mind. WithClyde i have a ton more memories, from the time i choked trying to get his autograph when i was a kid to the Blazer runs of the '90s, to being glad to see him win a title finally in his home town and with one of his best friends on the team. I can remember so many awsome things when it comes tot hat guy.
The difference is obvious of course, Clyde having a long, hall of fame career and Roy being relatively new and no where near a hall of fame career. YET! Roy started his career much stronger than Clyde did and if we compare them 4 years into there careers we can see some glaring differences.
Clyde : 83-84, 7ppg, 17 mpg, 82GP 3GS/ 84-85, 17ppg, 31mpg, 82GP 42GS/ 85-86, 18ppg, 34mpg, 75GP 58GS It wasnt untill his 4th year that Clyde scored over 20ppg and started the whole year. I understand there where reasons for this, mostly that we have good players at his position allready.
Roy: 06-07, 16ppg, 35mpg, 57GP 55GS/ 07-08, 19ppg, 37mpg, 74GP 74GS/ 08-09, 22ppg, 37mpg, 78GP 78GS. Clearly illustrates that Roy has come out of the gates flying, his career is allready in its "prime." Clyde didnt reach his "prime" until year 4 or 5. (remember this when you get down about Oden, he is still VERY young)
They are very different players overall, Clyde was a pickpocket and as athletic as they come. He could jump out of the Gym and even block a shot fairly regularly(note the year he had 70blks in 76 games) and play very solid defense. He was a leader but in a much different way than Roy. Roy, as we all know is a very ceribral player, very under control, does almost everything at a very high level.....though he does steal the ball all that much and blocks very few shots. Roy is a ton better shooter than Clyde ever was, that poor broke jumper clyde had all them years:(
These things are all fairly obvious to a knowledgeable fan but i think they needed to be said outloud and we should all take notice of what we are seeing him do, not just this year(which is becoming amazing quickly) but over the course of his very young career. I can see Roy being my #1 fav and Clyde being #1a once all is said and done but right now Roy is not there. I will say that he is on track to take every Blazer record Clyde has(save for the steal record) and destroy it. Add in a couple titles and Roy will be HoF bound. My own personal Bromance continues with Roy, Phenomenal person, player and Franchise Corner stone. Last night's game was amazing, his career has been amazing, and he gave us all a christmas present. Thats alot of people he delivered that present to in a very short time, Santa is probably jealous.
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LOL
Sorry bout including Z-bo, i couldnt help myself. lol
by blazerbeliever97504 on Dec 26, 2009 9:48 AM PST reply actions
Some young'uns who never saw Clyde.
The impetousity of youth !! No memory/experience !
It's GO time !
Sooo...I have spent a long time trying to figure out who Roy reminds me of
I wasn’t finding it on the Basketball court….then it hit me …(as a long time Raiders fan I should have gotten it earlier) …the dude he reminds me of most is Marcus Allen. Allen never seemed like the fastest guy….but he was silky smooth. You would see him go into a pile and then all of a sudden he would shoot out the other side and be gone. There were so many times when you would think the other team had him and he would somehow get past them or break a tackle and zoom..he was in the end zone. If you never saw Allen in prime …(before Bo Jackson)….then you probably won’t get this. But Roy as the quiet leader…..the low key stud…silent assassin…the natural….I think the comparison is apt.
" Welcome to the Bedge....where good, is never good enough"…Rudiculous
I like the comparision
also to the peeps who voted Z-bo, hilarious. lol
by blazerbeliever97504 on Dec 26, 2009 10:21 AM PST reply actions
Also, i wanna win out the rest of the year.
Who will step up and write Roy a letter saying that the Sixers ran over his dog. Then all we need is someone else each game let Roy know that all of these teams hate him and want to throw new born puppies at him(both to hurt him and the puppies, ok bad joke)
Get Roy mad!!!!!
Our battle cry the rest of the year. :)
by blazerbeliever97504 on Dec 26, 2009 10:25 AM PST reply actions
How is Medford? Cold?
" Welcome to the Bedge....where good, is never good enough"…Rudiculous
by 92wastheyear on Dec 26, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
As a 35 + year Blazermaniac . . .
who’s All-time favorite player is still # 22, I will be happy to show you
the non-choke Clyde autograph. I made a homemade sheet sign for the
Blazers 1986 preseason game in Medford. I didn’t get Clyde’s autograph
at that game (Yes to Kiki & Jerome), but ended up getting Clyde on the same
sign at the preseason 1988 game vs. Sac at OIT. Unfortunately the autograph
wasn’t in permanent marker and to my horror it ended up fading off after many
years.
Fortunatly, Clyde resigned (in black sharpie) on that sign later (2005 -06) in
Portland on Clyde Drexler night (retired jersey ?) and we has some chuckles about
the homey nature of the sign and the good old days. (In the corner of the sign it has
Kiki’s Korner) I think Cylde really loved playing with Kiki, as they really had great chemistry
playing the two man game. I always saw a lot of joy in their pass and cut or drive and kick.
Long live the good guys !!! Clyde Drexler & Brandon Roy – Gentleman stars who love the game !
It's GO time !
it should be Broymance.
I love arvydas
by tevisthe4th on Dec 26, 2009 10:29 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Amen to Sabas Love !
I have some great memories and stories about Sabas ! One of
my All-time Blazer favs !!
GO BLAZERS !!! More power to the ANTI-TANK movement !!!
It's GO time !
I still get a sick feeling in my stomach when i think about what we would have done with Sabas in his prime.
Stupid cold war cost us several titles. Wait you think we would have a legal case for mental anquish against the former Soviet Union? Lawyer Bedgers lemme know if we have a case!
by blazerbeliever97504 on Dec 26, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Roy
Number 2 with a bullet.
It's been said that Bayless can't run a team, can't shoot from outside, well we've found out that what he really can't do is lose a big game. -Mike Rice
Roy will go down as the greatest Blazer ever
in my mind. At least over the next 20-30 years. Unless of course Oden becomes something special, which I doubt at this point. Although I still Oden could be an all-star center, kinda like a Alonzo Mourning.
OMG I just jizzed in my France
If he wins a title
Which #22 could never do here, he’ll be #1 in my book.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
My favorie Blazer
Was sabonis. Watching Frankenstein redirect the ball around his back like it was nothing never got old.
by Sound_Automatic on Dec 26, 2009 11:51 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Whomever voted for Zach
Has not been a fan for terribly long.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
They voted for the same reason i included him
I hope anyways.
Anyone who honestly thinks Z-bo is our best all time should be banned from wearing our gear, going in the Rose Garden or even speaking the name Trailblazer. Records of there existence shall be wiped from the world.
by blazerbeliever97504 on Dec 26, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Man, why ya gotta make me pick between Clyde and Roy
Brandon Roy - The Savior Of Portland Basketball
by rise_stand_resist on Dec 26, 2009 12:42 PM PST reply actions
I voted for Roy
“The Glide” is one of the best ever but Roy is the leader of the blazers of my decade. Therefore he’s my favorite =)
Brandon Roy - The Savior Of Portland Basketball
by rise_stand_resist on Dec 26, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
you know what might make a difference?
Clyde’s teams had Rick Adelman, who this year is proving to be an amazing coach. He got the blazers to the finals with Clyde and a bunch of hustle/roll players and this year that Rockets team is winning all sorts of games they shouldn’t be.
#52
Though he's had a ton of coaching experience since then
I imagine Nate will be a much better coach in 17 years.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
I allmost put Joel up there for ya Dario
but didnt want to seem to play favorites.
by blazerbeliever97504 on Dec 26, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Sabas
greatest passing center of all time period.
"I been ridin' the midnight train, got ice water in my veins." -Bob Dylan
"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice
by koyote on Dec 26, 2009 2:11 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Really? Was he even the greatest passing Blazer C of all time?
Especially for Blazer fans, Walton makes a pretty good case.
Two points scored by GO’ = "thunderdunk"
I wish I could've seen Walton play
unfortunately, I wasn’t born yet. However, I watched almost every game that Sabonis played in a Blazer jersey, and I can say without hesitation that he was the best passing big man I’ve ever seen. If Walton was better, than he must have been absolutely phenomenal indeed. I haven’t seen footage of Walton that has made me think so.
"I been ridin' the midnight train, got ice water in my veins." -Bob Dylan
"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice
i would probly say the same 4 personally
Roy
Clyde
Porter
Sabas
1 – 1a – 2 – and 2a they are that close for me
by blazerbeliever97504 on Dec 26, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
lol we must be nearing the same age
I'm going on a Dave boycott until AK1984 is brought back.
by Philthyanimal on Dec 26, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
Brian Grant is probably still my fav
Even though he wasn’t the best player, far from it. I just loved his attitude.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Brandon and Clyde: Very different players .. just like you said
That was a nice summary, blazerbeliever.
Clyde had a flat jumper, and Clyde’s best shot proabably was his finger roll to the basket. Clyde was an open court player. After a steal, his speed dribbling down court was breathtaking. Brandon is a better shooter, more thoughtful, and a better leader. Clyde didn’t work as hard developing his game as Brandon does. It’s still early in Brandon’s career. For me, Brandon has the opportunity to become the greatest Blazer.
Brandon should be mentioned more than he is in the MVP race
With half the team injured, Roy just beat Wade and Melo. Can a Blazer get some love?
It's probably due to his lackluster start to the season.
But if he keeps this up, he will start to get more talk.
Rasheed Wallace should be the 1
The most blazers’ player in a history to get technicals in a season LOL
Walton?
How important was he? How many rings do you have? Personally, as a non-Blazer fan, I’d rather have Bill Walton’s best year over any other Blazer’s 5 best years.
1. Walton—One of the highest BBIQ’s ever, ended up winning two NBA titles.
2. Mo Lucas—Toughness personified, with skill.
3. Terry Porter—Great shooter with a balanced and steady game.
4. Buck Williams—Tenacity and effort.
5. Brandon Roy—Tremendous skill set, underrated athlete, still growing.
6. Clyde Drexler—Great runner, great leaper off of one leg, physically imposing, not really an outside shooter.
7. Kiki—Great offensive player, not so much of a defender.
8. Sabas—Great passer, very good shooter, big body, truly great athlete in his early days.
9. Jerome Kersey—Heart of a lion, never gave up on a play, strong.
10. Bobby Gross and Dave Twardzik—They did more with less, cutting, passing, shooting, hustling, a pleasure to watch.
#52
by KINGofMACct on Dec 27, 2009 8:44 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
No question Walton was the BEST Blazer we've had, as of right now.
It’s not close, but he didn’t play long enough here to become a favorite and his foot problems make some forget how unbelievable he was when healthy. Drexler was a fan favorite, put up great career stats, was media friendly, and played here for almost his whole career. I do feel like for these reasons he is a tad overrated in Portland. He wasn’t a strong leader, didn’t come through in the clutch and really didn’t want that role. Roy has that competitive and killer instinct that Clyde never had. If Roy has a decently long career, he will pass Clyde in my book pretty easily.
nice post.nice memories
Makes me think of all the great players and men that have been part of the Blazers Family, over the last 40 years.
to Coastie07 – Clyde came through in the clutch many, many times in his time here, and in Houston (he was the difference in a 7 seed winning the title)
Clyde had great runs here, and represented our team & city with class.
He ran up against hall of famers on hall of fame squads, or he would have won it all for the TB
Good Question...
I loved to hate Clyde’s ugly shot. Kinda reminds me of Dre’s shot. Clyde had so many other personalities on the team that he didn’t always stand out. And he always had to compete with Jordan on the national level which made him look less shiny. I don’t remember blogging about drexler in ‘91 either so that may have something to do about it. On the verge of moving to the east coast myself i’m aware that the east cost chumps miss a lot of good stuff at 1 in the morning. Roy has a different level to his game. Its so methodical and beautiful! I’m still gonna have to vote for Oden though. He’s just so big and his potential is crazy!!!
Reign Man!
Shawn Kemp. Greatest Blazer ever. End of discussion. Really though, I’m a eighties baby so its Uncle Cliffy, Buck, Duck, Clyde and Drazen for me. Our guys are fun to watch now too, Batum and Jbaybay are prob my tops until Tolliver gets some PT and starts killing it. Thinking of the early 90’s, anyone else remember the game Adelman was subbing in Alaa Abdelnaby and he forgot to put his jersey on under his warm-ups? Classic.

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