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Adjusting Strategy to Fit Personnel (Letting Miller be Miller)

The debate among the Blazer media (and here at BE) over the last few days has focused on how to adjust the team's offensive strategy to account for the emergence of Greg Oden as an offensive threat and the acquisition of Andre Miller, a true point guard who is used to running the offense and controlling the ball. Last season, the Blazer starting lineup included three guys -- Joel Przybilla, Nic Batum, and Steve Blake -- who really didn't look to score and did not need the ball in their hands. The offense, by necessity, ran through Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge. It was, for the most part, a two man game. And the Blazers did remarkably well given how one-dimensional they were (at least until the playoffs).

This year, two of the offensive pieces the Blazer faithful have long coveted have finally materialized. We now have a center who is a genuine low post scoring threat and a true point guard who is one of the very best distributors in the NBA. And yet, for reasons that I don't really understand, the coaching staff seems fixated on trying to recreate the offensive strategy from last year.

But that's just not going to happen. Steve Blake and Joel Przybilla had career years last year that they are not likely to replicate. Nic Batum and Travis Outlaw are injured. And more importantly, the Blazers have two very important new offensive weapons, a new starting center (Oden) and a veteran point guard (Miller) who has play-making skills that far surpass anyone else on the team.

It is almost axiomatic that good teams adjust their strategy to fit their personnel. But the Blazers seem determined to adjust their personnel to fit their strategy. That's never a good idea.

Brandon Roy is one best all around players in the league. He does everything pretty well (at least on offense). The last two years, because of the personnel, the team needed Brandon to be both the primary scorer and, for much of the game, the primary ball-handler and play-maker. And he ably filled that role. He had to. He was the best option. But that doesn't necessarily mean that this is the best use of Roy's talents. There are plenty of power forwards in this league who, due to a shortage of big men on their teams, have been forced to play center for long stretches and have done pretty well. Chris Bosh is a good example. But that doesn't mean that Bosh wouldn't be better off playing power forward alongside a true center, like Greg Oden. Just because he's good enough to play center doesn't mean that playing him as one is the best way to utilize his talents.

Similarly, just because Brandon Roy has done a solid job shouldering playmaking duties in the past does not mean that he (and the team) would not be better if he played a more traditional off-guard role, at least when he's paired with a player (Miller) who is a better play-maker and distributor than he is. As I noted yesterday, Andre Miller is one of the best distributors in the league. Last year, on Philadelphia, he racked up an astounding number of "super" assists, i.e., assists that lead to dunks or lay-ups for his teammates. And he did so for a team that played at a relatively slow pace, like Portland (Philadelphia had the 9th slowest pace in the league).

I realize it's difficult for players to leave their comfort zones, especially when they've experienced as much success as Brandon Roy already has, but someone needs to sit Roy down and explain to him that, ultimately, he'll be able to score much more easily with the help of a premiere passer than he could ever hope to on his own. If Brandon would just use the same effort in his movement without the ball as he does when he's got the ball in his hands, the sky is the limit. It is much harder to defend off-ball movement than it is to defend a guy dribbling the ball, no matter how skilled that player is. You can move faster, turn easier, and make better use of picks when you don't have to worry about dribbling. And someone as skilled as Brandon is at finishing at the rim, even in heavy traffic, is a passer's dream, a recipe for racking up ungodly assist numbers.

From the moment he arrived in Portland, the knock on Andre Miller has been that his inability to hit threes makes him a liability when he plays alongside Roy. Unlike with Blake, Roy can't drive into traffic and dish the ball to Miller for an open three. But this strikes me as having everything backwards. The reason Roy had to drive so much to the hoop last season was because no one else on the team could, especially Steve Blake. But Miller is aggressive and quite adept at penetrating and driving to the hoop. When he and Roy are in the game together, Miller should generally be the one penetrating and dishing to Roy, not vice versa.

I realize that the Blazers' Hypothetical Perfect Point Guard (HPPG) would be someone who, in addition to being an elite distributor, is also an assassin from long range and a defensive stopper, but get in line. In the meantime, we have a guy who is one of the better passers in the entire league and an excellent dribble-penetrator. Rather than lament that he is not also a great shooter, maybe we should be trying to figure out how best to use this new weapon. If you look up and down the Blazer roster, you see a bunch of tall, skilled finishers. As I noted yesterday, literally everyone on the team--with the exception of Blake--is capable of dunking an alley-oop pass. That's pretty remarkable. And, among the starters, everyone but Greg Oden is capable of knocking down an open three, and everyone, including the bigs, shoots reasonably well from the foul line. This, too, is a passer's dream, a recipe for a hyper efficient offense.

With all due respect to Steve Blake, there is no question in my mind that Andre Miller should be starting every game and playing at least 30-35 minutes. You want continuity on offense? You want consistency? Well then take the guy who has consistently been one of the best floor generals in the league and let him run your offense. Let him make life easier for everyone else on the court, including your star. It may take a few games, but after a while, everything will start clicking. The other players on the court will learn what kind of passes Miller is capable of making and what kinds of off-ball movement and cuts are most likely to result in a pass and an easy bucket. Before long, Miller will be able to read their body language and know, even before they move, when they're going to cut to the hoop (unlike what happened tonight, when Bayless started to cut and then stopped, hanging Miller out to dry on a perfect lead pass).

I'm obviously not an NBA coach, so take what I have to say with a fistful of salt, but I get the feeling that Nate and his coaching staff are making things much more complicated than they need to be. In the NBA there are very few guys, even among those who officially play the point guard position, who have the court vision and passing skills necessary to run an offense. As a result, most teams have to rely on more complicated offensive strategies and find other ways to make due. But when you have the luxury of having a guy like Andre Miller on your team, it makes life much easier. You can give that guy the ball and let him use his gift, let him read the defense and distribute the ball to his teammates. It requires trust and a willingness to delegate much of the decision-making and play-calling to your point guard, but the payoff can be huge. It's the key to achieving a truly efficient and cohesive offense.

Given the amount of experimenting that has gone on this year (and the team's current level of play), I really don't see how it would hurt the Blazers to at least give this option a try. What have we got to lose? Let Miller be Miller. Put him in the starting lineup, stop calling all the plays from the sidelines, and let's see how our offense looks under the direction of a true point guard. There's no question that adopting this strategy would force Roy to adjust his game, but Roy is, by far, the player on the team most capable of adjusting his game. Given his abundant talent, there's no reason he can't expand his repertoire to include all the moves necessary to be an elite off-the-ball scorer. He can still be the #1 scoring option without having the ball in his hands all the time. And with the right substitution patterns, Roy can use the time Miller is off the court to be extra aggressive offensively and be the play-maker. At the end of the day, the result will be a better, more complete Brandon Roy and a better, more complete team. 

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"I'm obviously not an NBA coach"

You could be. As could any number of BE’ers

That an NBA coach is untouchable mentally is a myth

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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

that many of us could do their jobs is also a myth

by The Arkitect on Dec 2, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

I didn’t mean that NBA coaches are smarter than the rest of us. Just that they have more basketball experience.

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by Blazer Guy on Dec 2, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

um

no

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by koyote on Dec 2, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you meant LARRY Miller.

Larry’s email privileges have been curtailed rather sharply after that incident a while back, but I think he deserves another shot.

by CatMan2 on Dec 2, 2009 9:26 AM PST reply actions  

Nate needs to get Roy to think of himself as a very talented, highly versatile, court savvy Outlaw.

Only then will the season will take off, I think.

Miller drive and dish to Roy (new Outlaw) for a corner 3, good. Offense stagnant? Put the ball in Roy’s (new Outlaw’s) hands for the Jumpe…..rrrr…..oh wait, Roy is elite, or near it from the arc, midrange, and in the paint!

Seriously, though, Roy’s lack of willingness to adjust is driving me crazy, and if things continue this way it may drive us out of the playoffs in the first round. I hate to think that we may drop out early due to an inability to integrate miller and oden. A lack of consistent offensive weapons, and bad nerves are far, far, far better excuses.

Do I think that it will come to this? No. He is nervous about experimenting with the offense. He needs the familiarity of his past role to perform on the level of a max contract player, he thinks. This is not the Roy show, or the Roy-Aldridge show, anymore! This is a team.

by JudgeDridge on Dec 2, 2009 9:50 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Miller is a good finisher but he isn't going to draw Roy's man.

If you think the offense is stagnant with Roy its not going to be much better with a player that cant draw a double team.

by Kaanyr Vhok on Dec 2, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

PLAYOFFS?

I think we should stop talking about playoffs. That may be part of the problem. Even before this season started we were all talking, playoffs this and playoffs that. That putts a lot of pressure on the guys. Let’s forget about the playoffs. We may not even get in them.

GO BLAZERS!

by BLAZERONE on Dec 2, 2009 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

Let’s forget about the playoffs. We may not even get in them.

With this team, I’d put even odds on any of the following: missing the playoffs, first and out, second and out, Western champs, NBA champs. They have the pieces just need to get it together

by jiminut on Dec 2, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

channeling Jim Mora?

That’s the inner voice I heard, when you said “PLAYOFFS?!”

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by two4larue on Dec 3, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

One major problem . . .

       Miller, like Blake is a poor perimeter defender !!!
 There is only one PG on our roster that has the athleticism
to be a good perimeter defender – Jerryd Bayless. Unless
he gets meaningful minutes to grow into his NBA game, the
Blazers will continue to have problems !

      COINCAST SUCKS !!!!

p.s. – The Blazers lost to Miami because of poor defense (and missing
          Smooth – guarding Beasley).

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Dec 2, 2009 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

The defensive stats say otherwise.

Someone posted in another thread that the defense is a bit better when Miller is on the floor than when he is off.

I don’t follow stats like some of the uber stat geeks in here, so I don’t know where that information would be, all I know is that they posted it.

I really don’t see Miller as a liability on defense, especially not when in comparison to Blake. If Miller is dead even equal with Blake, his offensive abilities make it inexcusable to leave him coming off the bench in favor of Blake, but he does make the defense better when he is in.

Can anyone confirm that or find that stat?

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A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Dec 3, 2009 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

He was a good defender last season.

I believe the 76’ers were best when he was on the court. I think the main thing is he’s a smart defender and he doesn’t get posted up like the little guards. So basically he still gets burned by quick guys like Brooks, but he doesn’t get punished by big guards like Kidd, Davis, Billups, etc. I’ve noticed the Blazers aren’t shy about sticking him on guys like Joe Johnson or Dwayne Wade. It’s a shame he has to defend the best perimiter player so much, but with the only alternatives sometimes being Roy or Blake I’m not sure what else you can do. I would certainly rate him as the best defender of the three. Hollinger mentioned him having good defensive numbers last season.


“Kirk Hinrich (-6.09) re-established himself as one of the league’s better defenders in the backcourt after missing some time with an injury, though you wish he wouldn’t leave his feet quite so much. I’ve never thought quite as highly of Andre Miller (-4.40) or Raymond Felton (-2.36), but each defended both backcourt spots more than adequately and their strong adjusted plus-minus numbers warrant a shout-out here, too "-Hollinger

by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 3, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Miller is not a great defender, but he is definitely better than Blake.

They both lack the defensive quickness, but where Miller has a decently large edge is in his strength and smarts. He’s much stronger than Blake and it’s harder for players to back him down. He’s also better at communicating defense and knowing where people need to be. You can see him out there telling his teammates where to move on D. This is partly why are defensive rating was around 8 points better when he started.

by Coastie07 on Dec 3, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Miller is the QB on D, as well as O

Something many miss is how much directing of the D Andre does when he is in there. Watch him direct traffic, perhaps you’ll think more highly of him as a defender.

by Visionary2 on Dec 4, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love to see Miller start

but that decision should have been made before the season started, allowing the team the entire training camp to adjust to the new offensive system that would have to be installed to accomadate the change. But I feel that the change needs to be made now and the Blazers need to just live with the growing pains that will come with it.

The stats are Projected based on their production so far this year.
Miller 32mpg, 13ppg, 6asts, 3rebs
Roy 37mpg, 20pts, 5asts, 4rebs
Web 22 mpg, 8pts, 3 rebs
LMA 37mpg, 17.5pts, 8 rebs, 2 asts
Oden 32mpg, 16pts, 12 rebs, 2asts, 3 blks

Bench
Rudy 28mpg, 11pts, 3 rebs, 2.5asts
Joel 18 mpg, 3pts, 7rebs
Bayless 16mpg, 8pts, 1.2rebs, 2asts
Dante 11mpg, 4pts, 3rebs

That is a nine man rotation of the most effective players on the roster. The offense would need to be changed, overhauled really, to make use of the lineup. Something like Boston runs would be much better, basically stop settling for long 2 point attempts which waste possessions.

by usmcr3049 on Dec 2, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

miller best option at point guard

would love to see miller given a few starts. what has happened so far is that he is forced to play roy’s game as a kickout long range jumpshooter which he has never been adept at. how often this season, has miller received a pass near the 3 pt line as the shot clock winds down?

as a starter getting 35+ minutes a night portland fans would be shocked at the team improvement. after iverson was dealt from the sixer’s, miller dramatically improved the teams offense and wasn’t a liability on defense. this continued the next couple years with miller having 2 of hsi best years in the league. think about it, if he could get a team with the 76ers limited talent to the playoffs, what a benefit he could be to the portland squad which has incredibly more talent.

miller is one of the better set offense technicians in the game. he makes few mistakes, and generally forces few shots, unlike this season where he is forced to shoot as time clock runs out as he receives kickout pass. players like oden and aldridge would bloom, as should roy. for this to happen, roy needs to change his mindset and blind loyalty to blake (as does macmillan). miller also is a very good fast break passer, despite his lack of foot speed. philadelphia got countless fastbreak dunks last season on millers half court lead passes.

would love to see portland try a miller, roy, oden, aldridge, rudy starting lineup. you would have shooters and penetrators on the floor, with both rudy and miller facilitaing getting ball inside to oden or aldridge. this would be a reasonable defensive squad if they played team defense, and may well keep oden out of early foul trouble.

portland should not have a set idea of first and second squad. miller has proven he is durable and can play with all different types of players. he is not and never has been a long range shooter, though he can make the odd long shot when he spots up. he is a strong inside player for a little guy, with great rebounding instincts.

by utahcoyote on Dec 4, 2009 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

If Miller were coach....

There has been a lot of speculation on whom Nate should have in the starting lineup. If Miller were to have the role of player-coach, which of the currently available players would he pick as starting running mates? Given his style of play, I am not absolutely certain Roy would be in the mix.

by gschnovr on Dec 2, 2009 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

In no way am I questioning the abilities of our Superstar.

 I am just exploring the possibility that Player-Coach Miller might be faced with the same dilemma that Nate is faced with now.

Bear with me for a second.

Hypothetical Coach Miller would likely insert himself as the starting point guard. He has a Superstar on the team who has the same skill set as himself in his ability to get to the rim and create, but I believe there is consensus that Roy does not yet move well without the ball. He also has Rudy availiable who moves extremely well without the ball WHEN he feels he might get rewarded for all the energy he puts out. (Do you all remember how much running Rudy used to do off the ball when he first arrived last year. Does anyone else feel like he has slowed down a bit?)

Like Coach Miller, Rudy’s offensive mindset is to run and push the ball. He can also finish pretty well. The choice of Rudy gives Andre a first unit of himself, LMA, Oden, Rudy and Webster…… To me, that is a pretty formidable, high energy running team. He now has Roy coming off the bench (that should stir the pot a bit) leading a tough second unit!!

I would submit that Coach Miller has a decision to make. Does he go with the assets that best complement his own game or does he go with the best players?

I suspect a hypothetical Coach Miller would have to find a way to start Roy. However, I would love to pose the question to Andre and get a candid answer.

by gschnovr on Dec 3, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

problem with that theory

Miller is playing alongside Rudy coming off teh bench, and the two of them haven’t been exactly setting the world on fire

Roy and Miller have to learn how to play together (with Greg and LMA) or it was silly to sign Andre in the first place

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by two4larue on Dec 3, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Miller should be starting. Period! He is far better than Blake can ever hope to be.

Brandon needs to adjust to this. If he would simply accept it and get to work without the ball (and on defense), it would payoff for him AND the team.

by goobie1 on Dec 2, 2009 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

I think

they have let miller be miller enough to see who he is. And what happens when miller shows up? He is either traded or leaves a team without much effort by the team to retain him. So yes let miller be miller all the way out of here.

by BBG on Dec 2, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions  

Miller has never been that type of guy.

He wasn’t in Cleveland, certainly not in Philly or any other place he’s ever played.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Dec 3, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions  

We;ve let Miller be Miller?

I must have missed those games. How well did we do when he started without another pg?

by Coastie07 on Dec 3, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

preseason Phoenix game

I was at the MC with 11k others and it wasn’t a great night for the home team. Steve Nash was rambling and Roy didn’t seem to be very energized. Nate tried the Miller-Roy backcourt for two (2) preseason games before Brandon and LMA made their “option 1 and option 2” comments to the media, and since then Blake has been back at starting “PG”

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by two4larue on Dec 3, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Roy was so good last year, and in his career because he plays how he plays

Although changing his position on the team deosnt seem like a big deal to what seems to be a majority of B-Edgers, it absolutely is. And if you dont think so, watch a game. It has been clear time and time again that Roy is not comfortable playing off the ball. I am not arguing the idea that he should or shouldnt change that, im just saying what is clear and what there is evidence of: he played the way he did in the past because thats what he is good at and thats how he succeeds at being an allstar.

I dont see why its so hard for so many people to see that completely changing the style of the team, as well as who has the ball the majority of the time, is a HUGE change for someone who is used to handling the ball.

What happens if we do start miller and we are still slumping hard? I know a lot of you think this could never happen because miller is “such a better PG”, but i dont think thats true at all. Im sure that Roy would play just as poorly and our team would continue to struggle.

I guess what im getting at is why cant we revert to how we played last year? whats wrong with winning 54 games and getting to the playoffs? cuz i have news for all of you, and this is no joke or opinion: if the blazers keep playing as bad as they are, Bill simmons is going to be 100% right. 41-41 here we come. And i for one do not think its worth risking our entire year trying to force one players style onto a team that won 54 games and went to the playoffs last year. Im sorry, im too lazy to research, but how many playoff series has this all world PG andre miller ever won, anyways? I think we should absolutely play more closely to how we did last year: slow and controlled. It is much toucher without batum/trout, but that should be even more of a reason to play slower, now that we have fewer bodies. Plus everyone already knows how to play that way, and what their role would be in that scenario.

Trying to integrate miller into our lineup is going to cost us this season, and any subsequent ones he is on our team. Lets get a real PG that can shoot and pass and dribble. (i know, youre thinking “there are PG’s that can do all 3!?”) yes. there are. and we need one. bad

by dbartha on Dec 2, 2009 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

but that's exactly what we've been doing

We’ve been trying to revert to how we played last year. For the last few games, the starting lineup has been essentially what it was last year, except with Martell in Batum’s spot and Oden starting. Roy’s been getting all the touches he wants and Miller has been relegated to Sergio’s role.

And we’ve been getting killed. And the reason for that has nothing to do with Miller. We’re not playing as well as last year because Blake, Roy, and (to a lesser extent) Aldridge are all off their production numbers from last year. Roy and Blake are WAY off.

Trying to blame the Blazers’ slow start on Miller is silly. Roy and Blake simply aren’t playing as well as they did last season.

There’s no reason that incorporating the talents of a good distributing point guard needs to throw everyone out of whack for a season. At most it would take a couple of weeks to adjust to the new lineup. And given how poorly our current starting lineup is playing, I don’t see what we have to lose. Whether or not Miller is the answer, eventually we’re going to want to have a real point guard who can distribute. Might as well get used to playing with one now. It will help in the long run.

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by Blazer Guy on Dec 2, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Thank you

What kindof sense does it make to turn Roy into Richard Hamilton when you already have shooters. Let Roy be Roy. Miller needs to adjust and become more of a roleplayer like he did in the Heat game. The offense wasnt the problem in the Heat game. When you shoot like crap and still drop 100 points the offense is moving and hustling. Miller played the way he needs to play in the Heat game.

by Kaanyr Vhok on Dec 3, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

missing the point

No one is saying Roy should become Rip Hamilton (who needs to be assisted to score). The best off-guards in the league (Kobe, D-Wade) are good at BOTH moving without the ball and with the ball. Roy needs to work on the off-ball aspect of his game. Playing alongside Miller, he can work on that aspect of his game while still initiating some plays. And when Miller’s sitting, Roy can initiate more often.

This not only in the teams interest, but in Roy’s interest. Defense have adjusted to him and he’s just not getting the same looks as he did last year. He needs to add to his repertoire.

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by Blazer Guy on Dec 3, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

rec from me

Start Miller Please! I agree with you Blazer Guy! Weve tried everything but starting Miller. I mean what if we had landed Nash or Kidd— would they have had to come off the bench? We have a veteran pg and hes comin off the bench?! I still dont see why Nate is worried to put Blake in the 2nd unit. With Miller in the startiing unit, and Blake/Bayless running the second unit, we are suddenly so deep. Blake could run the second unit just fine, he knows their playing style, so we’d still have a great bench.

And if Miller totally sucks at starting well then friggin start Bayless and kiss the season bye bye! LOL

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by cavejunctionblazer on Dec 2, 2009 10:40 PM PST reply actions  

Perfectly stated:
“… someone needs to sit Roy down and explain to him that, ultimately, he’ll be able to score much more easily with the help of a premiere passer than he could ever hope to on his own. If Brandon would just use the same effort in his movement without the ball as he does when he’s got the ball in his hands, the sky is the limit.”

+1

Its just too bad I can only rec this once.

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A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Dec 3, 2009 12:20 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

The change we need goes completely against Roy's comfort,

But it’s still the change we need. We will never win a championship playing the same style as last year. It’s too easy to defend, especially in the playoffs, and who has ever won a ring playing that way? Centers win championships more than any other position, this is a big man’s game. Fast breaks and easy points when championships too. Roy needs to adjust or he we’ll just be another solid team that exits early in the playoffs every year.

by Coastie07 on Dec 3, 2009 8:54 AM PST reply actions  

BlazerGuy, your post is one of the most thoughtful and insightful I’ve read. I totally agree with your ideas regarding the use of Miller and the need to bring Bayless out of stagnation, getting minimal quality minutes. If he is not a long term answer, we need to know sooner than later. I continue to believe he has incredible potential for this team if unleashed. Unless Blake is to be used as the spot up 3 guy on the second unit, I think he would completely stiffle the energy the second unit brings. Has anyone noticed that being an elite 3 point shooter doesn’t in itself warrant much playing time. Koponin (?sp) of Philly and Korver of Utah are really bit players. Kleiza of Denver last year is now in Greece, all 3 being superb 3 point shooters. If shooting 3’s and getting the ball of Roy and then getting out of the way is Blake’s primary role, what a waste of a critical position at the point.

In this potential new mix, Rudy needs to have the harness removed from him as well and let him play Rudy ball. The entire team would benefit. Brandon should take lessons by watching how Rudy moves without the ball when not told to stand in the corner and just be a 3 weapon. We are tantilized by the glimpses we see and have seen of his pre-Blazer playing that seemingly is not allowed much here. It is without question, that it is Roy who needs to be flexible and change, because I believe we can go no further than we did last year with Roy being so dominant and his having to have the ball to create for himself instead of allowing others to set him up. For teams without the incredible supporting cast we are blessed with on this roster, teams can do well with a Roy type player who dominates the ball, but they never make it to the top. Has anyone noticed how active Kobe and LaBron are without the ball and even on defense, incredibly more so than Brandon. With relative non-scoring types last year in the starting 5, except Roy and Aldridge, the entire offense of that group was them. We now have so much more to develop, where Oden really has the potential to be so much more of the offense than last year both in his scoring and abilities for others to benefit from his outlet passing, and Batum has shown evidence that he too can become an offensive force in addition to his supreme defensive abilities when he comes back from his injury. Webster I think has so much more potential that just being a sit in the weeds and pop 3’s type of player, but he is always looking over his shoulder. Nate is not a confidence infuser.

Finally, I agree with the obviousness of Nate being obscessed by being in control. Let them play. How can we have such horses and be so low in fast break points? It is so obvious when Blake is leading the charge and Roy is disinterested in playing that style of game. Like for so many others, it is so frustrating to watch such an incredibly gifted group of players so harnessed and so overthinking how to do what I think would come naturally for them if only give the chance by being shown confidence in them. Nate operates with a double standard it seems to me. There are the “haves” and the have “nots”, which is never good when one is truly attempting to bring everyone together as a team. While there may be a triumverant of Roy, Aldridge and now Oden, his personally meeting with them (reported I think in the Oregonian) to problem solve only I think further exacerbates that some have to watch out for themselves and others are given a pass because of their being the “chosen ones”. Great post, Blazer Guy.

by hoopsjunkie on Dec 3, 2009 11:25 AM PST reply actions  

Roy's assist to Cunningham on the fastbreak would say otherwise

Roy has nothing to do with the team’s lack of fastbreak points. He is a pretty efficient player on the break but again it comes to defense you cant break when you are giving up 53% shooting.

by Kaanyr Vhok on Dec 3, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

The Suns do.

Roy wants the half-court isolation. He skills are alright on the break, but he doesn’t make a difference there.

by LaoTzu on Dec 4, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Roy's evolution

Roy rose to All Star status last season by carrying the team on his back, but took a lot of punishment in the process.

By dropping weight in the off season he SHOULD be ready to play off the ball more and take advantage of Miller’s passing. For some reason he hasn’t.

With Miller around, Roy can get his 20/5/5 with much less effort and can be fresher for the playoffs this year.

by Rip City Reign on Dec 3, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

I also have been advocating for more

Miller and Bayless and little or none of Blake. Like hoopsjunkie said “Has anyone noticed that being an elite 3 point shooter doesn’t in itself warrant much playing time. Kopono of Philly and Korver of Utah are really bit players. Kleiza of Denver last year is now in Greece, all 3 being superb 3 point shooters. If shooting 3’s and getting the ball of Roy and then getting out of the way is Blake’s primary role, what a waste of a critical position at the point.” I can’t for the life of me figure out why Blake is still starting. If Steve is hitting his shots then perhaps that might be reason enough although I would still want to see Miller starting. But Blake is NOT hitting AND he’s turning the ball over as well. Oh his defense is awfull too.
       Roy does need to stop acting the ‘Diva’ and just play the game. If he has to sacrifice then so be it. So far he has been so very disappointing and not just on offense but on D. He says he wants to be like Lebron, Wade and Kobe but has he watched them play? They play hard on both ends of the floor. They don’t complain or has their coach make excuses for them. This whole bit about how losing Batum and Outlaw (really?) on defense has meant that guys like Blake, Roy, Webster, Miller and Rudy have all had to adjust, I don’t buy it. Why is Roy depending on Batum to always guard the opposition’s best offensive player? I thought that he was the kind of guy that wanted that challege every night. I know that Bron, Wade and Kobe do. I know that they don’t have to on every play because they have team-mates who can do the job but their defense still remains very high. This is one of the reasons that I wanted Roy to participate in this past summer’s USA team camp. It would have given him a chance to get into the team proper with the Dream Team so he can play and learn from Lebron, Wade and Kobe. He apparently pulled out so he wouldn’t get injured before signing his ‘big contract’ which he has yet to play like someone that deserves that kind of money.

by VinnyB on Dec 3, 2009 10:06 PM PST reply actions  

Great post....

Give Dre the ball, and the keys to the offense, for the next dozen games. If Greg isn’t approaching 20/12/4, and Dre doesn’t have 12 with 10 assists, if Rudy isn’t in the teens…. then maybe Dre isn’t the guy.

But the #1 thing this offense needs to do is incorporate Greg Oden, and make getting him a touch early in the shot clock a common occurrence. The best player the Blazers have to do that is Andre Miller…

Second most important thing is to get easy baskets off the fast break, and Miller and Rudy (and LMA, soon) will be a great group to do that…

I also think Dre improves the D, because of the on-court ‘free safety’ skills he has, and the ability to move guys to the right spots.

Sure hope the rumos are true and we’re about to start Dre at the 1, and NOT Blake! Banner day in Blazer history if true!

by Visionary2 on Dec 4, 2009 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

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