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Media Row Report: Blazers 100, Heat 107

Nate McMillan's Blazers just dropped their third straight game overall and second straight at home, a solid 107-100 thumping at the hands of the Miami Heat.  

His star center was burdened by early foul trouble, so much so that McMillan was assessed a rare technical foul coming to his player's defense and then later had to be restrained by an assistant coach so as to avoid ejection. His star power forward sat out the game unexpectedly because of a knee bruise.  His all-star two guard -- who spent the week wringing his hands over an offensive pecking order and purported sacrifices -- got every shot he could handle (25 field goal attempts in total) and missed 64% of them. His starting point guard failed to show up until garbage time. Ditto for Martell Fernandez -- a new-model hybrid wing merged together because its independent parts never show up in the same game -- decided to check out entirely, especially on defense.

All in all, it was a low point for McMillan, a three-game losing streak valley that he hasn't visited in nearly a year.  After the game, he addressed his team for longer than usual and then addressed the media for longer than usual.  Reporters picked the performance apart from all sides, some offering helpful suggestions disguised as questions while others simply seemed confused.  

For almost ten minutes, McMillan answered these queries. But when the last question came, "You've got three straight days for practice time.  What will you work on?" McMillan exhaled. "We've got to just keep working. We've got to work on the defensive end of the floor. Both ends of the floor. Offensive and defensive."  

So, to sum it up, everything.  Everything needs work this week.  

Sounds about right to me.  I'm guessing you probably agree too.

Aside from Greg Oden's record-setting rebounding (20 total, 11 offensive), Andre Miller's foul-drawing (12 free throw attempts) and Juwan Howard's solid play in place of LaMarcus Aldridge (15 points, 5 boards, 2 assists in 26 minutes before he ran out of gas in the second half), it's difficult to find building blocks from tonight's loss that might be transformed into positive reinforcement in practice this week.  Really, it was another night of the same old losing song and dance.

The offense was too predictable. Brandon Roy over-dribbled and struggled to read the Miami defense, his gaudy stat line (25 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists) taking him a step closer to the all-star game but his overall play (low shooting percentage, ineffective passing, turnovers) again looking unfit for playoff success. 

Blazers guards struggled to keep up on the perimeter early and then failed to close out late.  In-game defensive adjustments, if there were any, were overwhelmed or ignored by Miami's attack, which saw three players (Dwyane Wade, Michael Beasley, and Quentin Richardson) go for 20+ and another, Jermaine O'Neal, go for 14 points, including some back-breaking baskets down the stretch.  Add that up and you're left with a mini-romp.

If you pressed me to really scrape the barrel, I see two positives emerging tonight.  

First, as McMillan notes below, the overall effort and intensity was improved (although it would be difficult not to improve over the effort displayed Friday and Saturday). Despite a double-digit deficit, the Blazers played to the final whistle, even delivering Chalupas to the few fans that remained rather than totally caving under a 17 point Miami lead.

Second, Roy refreshingly singled himself out for responsibility for the loss. "I've got to play better for 48 minutes," he noted after the game. "I gotta start playing much better. Hopefully I can do that Saturday."  Those words stand as the most appropriate observation Roy has made in some time.

Random Game Notes

  • Blazers Owner Paul Allen was in attendance tonight and, despite the loss, had an uncommon smile and quip for a long-time Blazers writer after the game.  Allen wore a hat that mostly covered the effects of his chemotherapy.  If you're finding yourself searching for perspective after this team's recent performances, there's your perspective. 
  • Michael Beasley had a big night and it wasn't just what he did during the game (27 points and 8 rebounds). Beasley went through a rigorous warm-up routine, only stopping to go out of his way to shake hands and answer questions from a small group of children that had managed to find its way into the Rose Garden well before tip.  Beasley's friendliness left the kids agog.  "I touched him," one gushed.  "He just made that jumper for me," another claimed.  This type of scene happens regularly over the course of the season; The Blazers are amazingly accommodating when it comes to children, autograph seekers and the like. But it was pretty profound to see Beasley, who has weathered an emotional storm these past six months, appear genuinely happy, living up to the "Be Easy" nickname he has stitched on his adidas sneakers.  His ruthlessness with the ball in his hands once the game started-- 12 free throw attempts, better than 50 percent from the field -- was equally profound.
  • Unusual scenes both before and after the game for Shavlik Randolph, who was making his first return to the Rose City since signing with the Miami Heat.  Before the game, Randolph was greeted like a Prom King, shaking hands with Blazers players, coaches, media members, fans, ushers, folding chairs, you name it. Had Randolph been so appreciated last year perhaps he would still be in a Blazers uniform, but I digress. He wasn't in anyone's uniform tonight, though, as he was on Miami's inactive list.  He made the most of it by wearing an awesome cream suit.
  • After the game, things got truly weird as I finally caught up to Randolph while he was boarding the Heat bus for the airport.  He had just finished taking off his shoes and enduring a mandatory pat-down and magic wand wave, the Sebastian Telfair Security Screening, I believe it's called.  The purpose, of course, is to ensure that no explosives or weapons find their way onto the team bus and plane.  As soon as I got Randolph's attention he immediately broke into his typical ear-to-ear smile, his spirits particularly high thanks to what he called the Heat's "huge win" to start a tough road trip. Anyway, the hijinks really started when we attempted to shake hands.  A security officer informed Randolph in a grave voice, "you can't touch him." After checking to make sure the officer was serious -- he was, the penalty for a handshake would have been going through the entire security process again -- Randolph hilariously signaled that we might settle for an "Air High Five." Which we did.  I kid you not.  All in all: a minor moment over the course of a long trip but a happy one for one of the happiest-go-luckiest guys in the NBA.  Add Randolph's name to the list of recent former Blazers who find themselves in better situations once they've left town: Frye, Jack, Rodriguez, etc.  
  • And, also, start asking yourself which current Blazer might be next to find his name on that list.  As the ugly losses add up, the whispers behind the scenes about player movement are growing louder and louder. The kind of whispers that might disappear if the ship gets righted?  Probably.
  • In other news, even with 3 key rotation players lost to injury, Jerryd Bayless makes the only shot he takes and doesn't commit a turnover yet only winds up with 3 minutes. Dot dot dot.
  • In case you missed it before the game, Kevin Pelton and I put up the latest episode of our podcast: click here. Don't miss your chance to enter our contest for a free copy of KP2's book.  The contest deadline is midnight Wednesday night. Some GREAT entries came in today.

Nate's Post-Game Comments

Did you feel undermanned?

Well, we got the guys we have. We gotta go with what we have. I've always felt like we need both units playing well. We just don't have enough guys playing well at the same time. We'll get three playing well or four or two and we need both units and pretty much all the guys we have to step in and play well. Shoot well, defend well. Because it's just not that much room or margin for error out there. 

What'd you think about your defense in light of another 50+% shooting night for your opponent?

Again, I agree. Just defensively it's the third game that we've given up the first quarter. +30. We've dug ourselves a hole and we just can't get close enough and get stops. That's definitely something we haven't done well in the last three games.

You've got to get up closer. Are you capable of doing it? They're running their sets and getting open looks and they're knocking their shots down.

Problems on offense

You've got a lot of combinations, one. Offensively we had 87 shots tonight and we don't have everybody shooting well. We had one or two guys maybe knocking down shots and a couple of guys not knocking down shots. We get that thing within six, we turn the ball over or we have a bad possession. And just execution.

Greg was able to dominate at times but he had foul trouble early

You just coach the game. And of course it is (tough). You lose him early with two quick fouls. We had to play most of the half without him. We was able to get through the half down 10 but we need him on the floor. Both ways.

Considered leaving him in with 2 fouls?

Not with nine minutes in the first quarter. You know you don't take that risk.

Brandon's game

Tonight, without LaMarcus, we basically gonna run through Brandon and Greg. We involved him in a lot of pick and rolls tonight to try to get some movement, spread their defense. I thought he had a little bit more activity tonight.

Is Brandon out of sorts?

Again, we're without LaMarcus tonight. That changes how we've played all season long. You lose a combination and you go to Brandon in some pick and rolls, some more movement, Greg is going to be your next option and you lose an option. Of course it's going to change how we attack and the things that we do.

With all the talk about the offense is there enough talk about the defense among the players?

There's talk about the game itself. How it's played. It's not just offense, it's not just defense, it's scrapping, it's hustling, it's trying to go harder than what we've shown. I thought it was better, I thought we competed more tonight than we did in our last two games. It's not just offense or defense, it's both ends of the floor for us.

What do you do from here?

Hopefully we get our guys back. The only way we're going to get out of this is if we work our way out of it, and we work our way out of it together. We get connected.

So you don't feel like this team is together right now?

Well that's the only way to get out of it. You talk about rhythm, you talk about adapting, and part of what we're doing right now is having to adapt to the different lineups, adapt to the adjustment of how we're playing. That's where we are at. The only way to do it is to work. Not start to point fingers or blame because that's not going to do any good. We have to do it together.

Howard and Dante played well in place of LaMarcus

I thought they did some good things but again we had other guys that didn't knock down shots, who we need to knock down shots and make plays. We have a couple of guys playing well but not as a unit. 

Did you expect to be at 12-8 with this team?

Well with... you always think about injuries, that's a part of the game, so you kind of expect that. That somebody is going to go down. We didn't expect what has happened. To lose Nic, to lose Travis, today we get a notice that LaMarcus can't go. What you have to do is adapt to that. The guys who are in uniform have got to play, step up and fill in.

Our goal is to win 10 games each month. We were able to do that last month. We start a new month. At least 10 plus. Today we dropped this one. You can't calculat e with who is going to be injured or who is going to be healthy.

Lots of pick and rolls but the ball doesn't get to the person who rolls. Miami was playing off of the pick setter.

They played the same defense that Chicago plays. We had 30 assists that night and that was probably our best offensive movement. Part of that is the guards getting the ball out so you're right, you've got to get the ball out of that type of aggressive defense. You've got to trust your teammates.

I just think tonight mostly Brnadon was handling that ball in the pick and rolls and he was trying to be aggressive. The guys that was running up was Dante and Howard who were spreading and when we did get it out we got some good things. That type of defense you're looking for the ball to be kicked out and your bigs to duck in. We didn't get that as much as wanted.

We've gotta get the ball out (to the bigs). 

You've got 3 days. What's your plan for the week practice-wise, what will you focus on?

We've got to just keep working. We've got to work on the defensive end of the floor. Both ends of the floor. Offensive and defensive. We have some practice days to work on it.

-- Ben Golliver | (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com) | Twitter

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oh Nate...

can he please retire his use of the word “scrap”. It’s almost comical now. Like some holy grail, be all end all, magic bullet that will fix our our ills. Does anyone else ever wonder if he’s sitting in practice for three hours going “come on guys, you just gotta scrap out there!”…

Nate talks a lot about BRoy running a lot of pick and rolls. Am I the only one who doesn’t see this? What I see is Brandon getting a lot of high picks in which he:
a) dribbles so far around the pick that it completely negates its usefullness and puts no pressure on the big defender
b) completely ignores the pick setter forever and always.
How is this effective? I just don’t see it. Honestly, calling for the high pick and roll for Brandon is the play i LEAST want so see us run. I’d rather we just put him in a 1-4 iso (and you know I’m no fan of that in large doses)

I swear if I am so tired of watching the following occur:
1) Brandon is handling the ball to initiate offense about 5 feet behind the arc
2) defense runs an extra man at Brandon
3) Brandon dribbles BACK towards half court
Seriously, is no one coaching this guy? This is EXACTLY what the defense wants us to do when they send that 2nd guy – and we play right into their hands every time. It’s completely maddening to watch us repeat the same mistakes ad nauseum and never seem to learn from them.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Dec 2, 2009 1:13 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

The pick and roll with Roy and Oden should be easy money

Very frustrating not to see it in actuality. Same for Dre and Oden.

Both are threats to score and finish inside. Roy and Dre can pass. Oden can catch on the move and score. It just makes too much sense that my teeth itch.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 2, 2009 2:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Too much dribbling

is a big problem when the offense is built around jump shooters. Seems to me that we’re making it easy for other teams to guard us-if the ball isn’t zipping around the perimeter and inside and out, our opponents can afford to be as lazy on defense as the Blazers have been of late.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

yep

we hardly ever put pressure on a defense. We allow them to saunter back and set up in halfcourt, then make it easy for them to defend by not making them move around. Sure, they have one on one pressure to guard whoever has the ball, but the other team rarely seems to have to do the same kind of scrambling around that we seem to always be doing on defense.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Dec 2, 2009 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

When

was the last time you saw the ball get passsed around the perimeter.We dribble more than a bad sipee cup.

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Last year

I was lucky enough to be able to go to some of the last home games of last season. Back then it was pass-pass-pass then Rudy/Roy/Blake/Batum knocking down a wide-open three, or a fast break with a big throwdown (or a HUGE Jerryd alley-oop!). Sadly, this year has been mostly dribble-dribble-dribble then solo jumper or a surprise to pass to a guy who can’t shoot the three at the buzzer.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Not all our point guards are named Blake

Sometimes I think this is fact that is lost on our game plan. Nothing is quite as strange as seeing Andre or Jerryd stationary in a Blake spot-up area, and launching threes near the end of the shot clock. Surely we can think of something at least a little more suited to their particular skill sets.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Nate has normally been good

at workin within who he has.Even yo yo isn’t hittin threes.(Blake)and he has been poor on D, too.

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Well...

not like defense has been a strong point for our starter the last couple of games (ugh).

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

We were supposed to play D

Note to self:Not supposed to give up 10 WIDE open looks to Carlos Boozer.

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Only free throws should be wide open!

Curse these professional players and their ability to knock down unguarded jump shots!

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you on that

and it may have just been in that one game. But it was weird to see those guys chucking up threes like Blake or Rudy (then again, those two haven’t exactly been on from downtown either, lately).

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

No they haven't

but then again,what is our new identity?

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we're still trying to find it

and as it has been put forth before, this seems to be part of the problem this year. Part of us wants to be the free-wheeling run and gun excitement from last year, part of us wants to be a serious championship-level big man centered team, and a larger part of us is having a hard time making both work, especially with all the lineup holes as of late. Sadly, I haven’t noticed any part that is enthusiastic about defense.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Straight up

Defense wins championships.No matter what the offense is doing,you gotta stop people.Did Don Nelson ever get a ring. that would be a no.

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course

To me the defensive lapses are more concerning than the offensive struggles. There have been some really nice INDIVIDUAL plays on defense (blocks, steals, etc), but it seems like for every one of those great plays, there are about 3 plays in which the other guys are getting an easy lay-in or an uncontested jumper.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Just for historical accuracy...

Nellie has about 9 rings, as a member of the Celtics juggernaut…

Your point about D winning championships is well taken, however…

by Visionary2 on Dec 2, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don't get it

How can a team that just throttled Chicago three games ago turn bad faster than an organic banana?

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing attracts fruit flies

better than a bad banana. I don’t get it either. We’ve had some great games, and games where almost every basket has been assisted. Maybe the team just needs to watch those games and remember how fun a fresh offense can be.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I dream of the day....

when once again the Blazers remember how to pass.

by jenstcy on Dec 2, 2009 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Ahhhhhhhhh

hopefully it will be sooner than later

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

The biggest injury this year...

has been the one that gave the remaining Blazers passing amnesia.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Good stuff

gotta run my landscape biz.thanx for the brain stimuli.

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

It’s always good to have someone to commiserate with, and a nice place to do it!

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Please do not attempt to do math

9/25= 36% shooting does not equal ‘missing 74%’ of the shots taken. Just 64%… geez 64%? Your point is well taken!

by mrwonderfulone on Dec 2, 2009 1:19 AM PST reply actions  

Roy needs to learn how to pass to Greg

Especially when he is wide open. That goes double for his gimp (blake).

"Comcast executives eat puppies and kittens. And worst of all, they are L@kers fans."

by Eat Politicians on Dec 2, 2009 1:20 AM PST reply actions  

There were so many missed passes

I was starting to think that our guards just prefer Greg to receive their “assists” off of backboard bounce passes as opposed to the more traditional route.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey

you can pick on Broy, but stop pickin on yo yo

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Roy just doesn't want to pass it to Oden.

That’s sure what it looks like. Like Roy said when he compared himself to Wade, we are a better team when Roy gets more touches. That was shown last night wasn’t it?

by Coastie07 on Dec 2, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Roy should compare himself to Wade by doing this...

“We knew they were going to take the ball out of Wade’s hands. He had to trust his teammates, and that’s what he did,” Spoelstra said.

by jrj on Dec 2, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Why is one phase of being a superstar

always have to be the “doesn’t trust teammates” phase? Is it simply unavoidable?

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

When he compared himself to DWade

kinda made me wonder,and I am a huge BRoy fan

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, right there with Maslov...

The Stages in being a Superstar

1: Spoiled rotten until the first pro contract… Buys mom a house…
2: Star humbled, must subject self to team, doesn’t get the minutes, hits rookie wall
3: Star has break-out game, fans all cry for coach to play budding superstar more
4: Star begins to get significant minutes. Starts to become a more vocal leader.
5: Dominant on a consistent basis. Starts to whine if not featured.
6: Lobbying for max deal, plays the best ball of his career.
7: Signs max contract. Forgets all about D.
8: Whines about not being respected, compares self erroneously to game’s elite
9: Star humbled, realizes they can’t do it alone…
10: Star matures, makes others better, gets rings.
11: Star talent fading, still wins, gets calls based on reputation
12: Star marginalized, disrespected, becomes TV analyst…

I’d say Broy has gone through the first 7 or 8 phases, and is right in line for 9 and 10… which hopefully last several years…

by Visionary2 on Dec 2, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

More and more

I think Nate is trying to do what it takes to get Brandon with the program. If that means letting him pound at the defenses until his shooting percentages drop below 40%, if that means starting Steve Blake and watching Greg Oden grow restless, etc., so be it.

 If Brandon will relent, begin trusting his teammates, and start looking to see what is needed, it will be well worth it. Incidentally, Brandon, I know you’re supposed to arrive at this on your own, but what is needed is full commitment to DEFENSE!

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Dec 2, 2009 1:31 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Roy

 should get 18-20 shots a game no question about it.

by BBG on Dec 2, 2009 1:45 AM PST reply actions  

What kind of shots?

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Dec 2, 2009 4:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully

the kind that go in

Sucking at darts is not a super power

by 1badbadger on Dec 2, 2009 6:49 AM PST up reply actions  

The kind of shots that go in

are shots that we’ve run a play that gives a decent opportunity to make it.

I don’t care about the number of shots as much as I care about the kind of shots. I’d be more than happy with Brandon only taking 15 if they are the kind of shots that he’ll make 60% of them.

There is a difference between shots/touches and quality shots/touches.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Dec 2, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Precisely

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Dec 2, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Broys problem

right now is that he just isn’tmaking his normal shots.Last night was a perfect example.Not being critical of our star. He is just alittle off.

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

true, but

he’s also forcing too many in my opinion. Just because he sometimes makes the fadeway pullup 18 foots with a guy right in his face does not make it a good shot.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Dec 2, 2009 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed ,

he’s pressing. But who else is scoring consistently besides The Janitor.

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

It's like last year

when we would dig holes for ourself and he would try to single handedly pull us out.He just isn’t doin that this year,yet

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish he'd stop yelling...

like he’s been shot, every time he attempts a contested shot… I’m sure the refs are getting tired of his “hey” squeals, and he’s not getting those calls…

by Visionary2 on Dec 2, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly this was my favorite part of the game
His star center was burdened by early foul trouble, so much so that McMillan was assessed a rare technical foul coming to his player’s defense and then later had to be restrained by an assistant coach so as to avoid ejection.

I’d love to see Nate do this, or something close to this every time Oden got any type of foul that isn’t blatant. Let it be known that when you call a foul on Oden, it better be the real deal, or you’re going to get an earful from Sarge. His days of building up equity not screaming in officials ears are over. Time to cash in all the pennies nickels and dimes you’ve earned to protect the franchise changing center. Why? He can only be a franchise changing center on the court, and apparently that’s not a given.

by as11osu on Dec 2, 2009 1:56 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Nate made a big mistake there, IMO

He is so slow to take a T that when he does, it has to catch their attention. At that point, you DON’T take Greg out. They’ve just been told they blew it, they kind of have to know something was going on there, and there is no way they slap another foul on Greg.

The next call after that T is almost certainly going to be a make up call. We weren’t dealing with Jake O’Donnell here.

Greg should have been left in to get the benefit of that makeup call. By leaving him in, you are putting the pressure on the refs to indeed give him that call.

Greg should have stayed in a minute or two more.

Second big mistake was to not bring Greg back after Joel’s third. Greg had two fouls, not three. The lead ballooned from 4 to 10 in those three minutes without a center. We might be able to get by without a 5 if we have LMA, but Juwan and Dante? Really?

If Greg picks up his third in the last three minutes of the half, ok, then you have to go small. But really, if we can’t get through a half with two centers with three fouls each, then we’re toast, anyway. So you’d better just run Greg out there and keep us in the game.

He’d have had two more rebounds, a couple more points, and we’d have been within 4-6 instead of 10 at halftime, and that makes a big difference.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Dec 2, 2009 4:21 AM PST up reply actions  

It wasn't a horrible time

That was a great time to tell the refs that they’d just left a steaming pile of muck on the court.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Dec 2, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Nate ALMOST did this.

when Joel picked up his third, Nate called Greg in. When Greg was halfway between Nate and the scorer’s, Nate called him back and went small instead. I remember thinking “come on Nate, he’s only got 2, let him play”.

but nope…

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Dec 2, 2009 7:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I noticed

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Dec 2, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd

The Blazerverse and The Wire: A comparison
Brandon Roy = Stringer Bell (smooth technician dedicated to his craft)
Nate McMillan = Cedric Daniels (well intentioned leader, but he can be too rigid for his own good at times)
Martell Webster = Wee Bey Brice (straight up solider who follows orders; every organization needs these guys to be successful)
Jerryd Bayless = Marlo Stanfield (he's new to the game, but he's watching and waitng; he will take over and there will be casualties)
Rudy Fernandez = Jimmy McNulty (he gets results, but the leadership wishes he was less of a wild man; the ladies love him)
Greg Oden = Michael Lee (he started off a quiet kid, but he's beginning to tap in to his huge potential to change the game)
Andre Miller = Lester Freamon (do not let the laconic demeanor fool you, the veteran knows what's up)
John Canzano = Scott Templeton (scummy muckraker who stays up at night polishing his award)

by blazeraddict on Dec 2, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Congrats to Nate for the "T"

backing Greg up. It was a tough spot tonight with LMA out, and a hungry, and capable, Miami smelling blood in the water. Glad we have this break. I really don’t know what to expect next, but definately not counting our guys out yet. Heaven help anyone who thinks of us as “underdogs”….. we could be missing that.
We are somewhat a victim of our own success, specifically Greg’s breakout as an offensive force. The team has some serious adjusting to do, and they will. That is a nice problem to have.

"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener

by Berkeley on Dec 2, 2009 1:57 AM PST reply actions  

The TV caught what Nate said, too

I’m glad he got the T, it’s been a loooooooooooooooong time coming.

O’Neal grabbed and threw Oden off, and Oden grabbed his arm at the end. TWEET lame foul call.

Get more T’s, Nate, defend your big man! The possible 1 point we lose will be more than negated by keeping Oden in the floor regularly.

M—

by Mortimer on Dec 2, 2009 2:22 AM PST up reply actions  

what DID he say?

I was working and unable to watch the game or even listen to anything until the game was out of reach.

And didn’t have the presence of mind to have anyone DVR it for me… fail.

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Dec 2, 2009 2:43 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

It isn't Bedge friendly

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Dec 2, 2009 4:21 AM PST up reply actions  

If that's all you noticed

you missed it.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Dec 2, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing Doug Moe

didn’t say 1,000 times a game.
Nate says it once a season and gets a T…

"I play, Coach stays. He goes, I go." - Jimmy Chitwood

by DucRider on Dec 2, 2009 7:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Weakest T ever

I bet the refs had a nice chuckle about it at halftime

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 6:40 AM PST up reply actions  

The encouraging part of it all is that the Blazers already know what they have to work on. The fans really don't

have anything new to add. This is all just a waiting game. We’re all waiting for things to start clicking.

by BRoyInThe4th on Dec 2, 2009 2:21 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

this one's for Ben...

What happened to the famous Kick pics? Those used to brighten my mood after a loss…

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Dec 2, 2009 2:45 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Jack, Sergio, Frye, Shavlick, Jones, etc

are kinda like ex-gfs. You don’t really want them in your life…but its kinda painful to see that they are with someone else when you are still single.

Cloudy is Sergio. Makes other people look good, can’t score himself. -Cablinasian

Greg Postertag is probably wielding a jack hammer of a Wenis - AK1984

by Philthyanimal on Dec 2, 2009 3:22 AM PST reply actions  

and looking more like the same for those still here

"I play, Coach stays. He goes, I go." - Jimmy Chitwood

by DucRider on Dec 2, 2009 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

That's why I don't want to see a trade right now

I don’t want them to do what the Mavs did when they traded for Kidd and the problem was that their coach had lost the team. I’m worried the Blazers will make a trade, and then after this season or in the middle of next season end up firing Nate and regretting the trade.

Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.

by terryisntbald on Dec 2, 2009 7:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Half those guys had no business being on the floor

Nate knew how to use Sergio, Shav, and Frye. If they’re flourishing now it’s only because they’re getting minutes that most people here would have frowned upon.

by levelhed on Dec 2, 2009 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

"...the whispers behind the scenes about player movement are growing louder and louder..."

If Sergio continues to show improvement while Rudy continues to struggle, there won´t be “whispers”. I think we´ll heard something out loud.

by amlmart1 on Dec 2, 2009 4:44 AM PST reply actions  

Do One Thing -- Do It Well

Nate keeps saying the “both sides of the floor” comment. Work on “everything” in/for three days! I’d like to see him spend three days of practice on just ONE skill. Defensive rotations, pick and rolls, pick and pops, you name it.

I see this as a serious example of the lack of focus that’s plagued our team. it’s time to stop generalizing. Let’s see them become Pick ’n Roll Specialists.

by jiminut on Dec 2, 2009 4:57 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I'd rather him work on the fast break

"This isn’t making staples, where you’re just making staples." - KP

by tominhawaii on Dec 2, 2009 5:13 AM PST up reply actions  

You name it. Anything.

But just one.

Fast break works for me.

by jiminut on Dec 2, 2009 5:29 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Two quotes from Nate really trouble me

“You lose him early with two quick fouls. We had to play most of the half without him.”

You’re the one who doesn’t play him in the 2nd quarter when he has 2 fouls. You do this to yourself. I’m tired of talking about this, but it keeps happening. Will a reporter ever press Nate about this? He acts like this is normal and gets away with it.

What will you work on? “We’ve got to just keep working.”

Great, we need to work on working. I haven’t heard that a million times from Nate. We heard that after the Utah and Memphis games. I want to see some sign that Nate has an idea of what he needs to do besides saying the players need to try harder and things will magically be better.

Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.

by terryisntbald on Dec 2, 2009 5:52 AM PST reply actions  

Well, come on...

I hate the post-game meaningless comments as much as anybody, but what do you want the guy to say?

“Yeah, with Houston coming up next, we’re going to drill all week on pounding the ball into Oden… And on D, we’re going to let Brooks get his, and focus on stopping everybody else…”

You can’t give away the upcoming game plan…

by Visionary2 on Dec 2, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

this is looking pathetic...ughh

the blazers and B Roy need a big ole….C’MON MAN

by MPP24 on Dec 2, 2009 6:30 AM PST reply actions  

Get off Martell

I watched this game and to say that the effort on Martels part “checked out entirely” just isn’t fair. The guy had five rebounds, no turnovers and took the open shot when he got it….. I don’t get what people expect from Martel. It doesn’t make any sense to list his short comings one day and ding him for them next day. Quit saying he is not “a great defender” or whatever and then expecting great defensive efforts…..
Why not talk aboutt he way Roy just stands around and slumps his shoulders when Oden gets the ball in the post? Or the awful defense Roy played last night, Roys defense never checks IN, much less has a chance to check out….
I don’t get scape goating Martel.
-
Oh by the way its what 18 games in now. At five games everyone said, “it’s a long season” “its still early”….. well here we are about a quarter way in and we don’t look much better. The offense last night clearly did better when the ball went through Oden. How about pulling ALL the players who play bad defense including Roy…

by zersrule on Dec 2, 2009 7:11 AM PST reply actions  

Also, enjoy Cunningham while you can

when rookies do well on a Nate MacMillan team, he ususally goes and reins them in (like Batum last year, who started hot then tanked after a talk with Nate, only to regain his game later in the year). The talk with Dante will be coming soon, and then we can watch his game go down hill. Ater Nate talks with a player it seems like their games always go down hill. Martel already this year, and Rudy as well because Nate tried to make them into something they are not…..
This team just seems to be in disaray. They players confirm over and over they don’t get what we are trying to do, the coaches quotes sometimes sound like non-sense……
All of this talent, and c’mon, there is a ton here. We are NOT undermanned. We have allt he talent we need, we just don;t have a coach who can figure out how to use it. Thats it.

by zersrule on Dec 2, 2009 7:25 AM PST reply actions  

FWIW

Great thing League Pass is doing this yr is replaying games.
So I’m waiting for the replay to start to see if what I thought I saw was what happened and I catch the Heat pregame bit.(Had choice of feeds,jumped to Heat’s by mistake.)

Heat announcer is talking about Heat’s opponent and says Nate told them before game Miller was brought in to be the ball handler for the second unit and to free up Roy to handle the ball more. That Outlaw’s injury is forcing Blazers second unit to be more cautious,try to manage game til Outlaw is back.

by Tisbee on Dec 2, 2009 7:26 AM PST reply actions  

Just once I'd like to see....

The Blazers lose a game because Nate left Oden in the game, no matter how many fouls he has, and let him continue to CRUSH the other team.
 But you “just don’t take that chance, not with 9 minutes left in the 1st half”……….

2-4 the who

by 24thewho on Dec 2, 2009 7:28 AM PST reply actions  

In all honestey

there’s not a coach in the league that would leave their center in with 2 fouls and 9 minutes left in the first QUARTER.

by Gary: Badass on Dec 2, 2009 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

True

But there are quite a few that would have let him finish the second quarter with 2. As I recall, Greg has only fouled out once this year…I would be happy with better production early and not having him for the last 5 minutes of a game. I’d rather deal with holding a lead without him than constantly trying to come back from huge deficits with him.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Hope that blazers keep losing games and fire the Nate

by RONO in HK on Dec 2, 2009 7:40 AM PST reply actions  

I know...

It’s the same mantality that has the team hold the ball for the last shot in the 1st quarter, no matter how much time is left on the clock….

2-4 the who

by 24thewho on Dec 2, 2009 7:41 AM PST reply actions  

I'm happy with this loss.

Roy, McMillan & Blazers now all saying the correct things.

If this is what it took to get them to realize that they needed some changes and to ramp it up a level, it was well worth it.

As long as this is a sign of real concern and real change, it is a success in my mind.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Dec 2, 2009 7:51 AM PST reply actions  

...............................

…………………………………

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else really tired of hearing this from Nate?

“We’ve just got to get better on both ends of the floor.”

What kind of a response is that? That’s almost as vanilla as saying,

“We’ve gotta score more points than our opponents to win.”

"Sometimes that light at the end of the tunnel is a train."
-- Charles Barkley

by halo_on on Dec 2, 2009 7:53 AM PST reply actions  

Yes

However, I’m more tired of the fact that we don’t have something more specific to focus on. The Blazers have been playing poorly in so many ways in recent games.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

we just gotta scrap

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Dec 2, 2009 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

politically correct blah blah

…i’m assuming he goes into more detail with his players…..do you remember the old Charlie Brown cartoon and the way the adults talked? I think that’s what players hear when Nate talks during practice and that is the problem.

by MPP24 on Dec 2, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

How can he give the answer when he doesn't know the answer?

Nate’s buffaloed. When ABC doesn’t work, he is lost.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I did

shouldv’e done it two games ago.No,I was pleased to see him man up

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was pretty weak

He needs to take a lesson from Sloan

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Jeez.... 3 game losing streak....

That hasn’t happen in awhile. If they keep playing this way, they’ll be on a 6 game losing streak at the end of this month….

by jenstcy on Dec 2, 2009 8:34 AM PST reply actions  

it's still early

and it’s exciting that a big driver of the teams frustrating play is figuring out what to do with greg oden now that he’s playing like the top tier big man we’ve been hoping to see. don’t sentence nate early, it’s a bad vibe. with all the injuries and the player development, we’ve got a different team on our hands than we had last year.

by dunklikeanegyptian on Dec 2, 2009 8:44 AM PST reply actions  

Time to stay cool and collected

even with all the struggling and injuries, we still have a pretty decent record. Could things be better? Sure. But I think we still have time to come around, and the guys that need playing experience will benefit from these early struggles. It’s not like we’re New Jersey over here or something.

by jigglyai on Dec 2, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice post from O-Live

For the doomsdayers..

Posted by HOXROX
December 02, 2009, 6:54AM
As a Nuggets fan, all I can say is at least you didn’t lose to the Timberwolves.
Come on guys, the Blazers are a good squad. It would be better to flounder now then in March.

by levelhed on Dec 2, 2009 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

Well hopefully they don't do too much more floundering....

It’s really sad when the two oldest guys on the team are the only ones that show up for the game. The pick and roll with Andre and Juwan was so beautiful. It makes me wonder why Brandon and Greg haven’t run that play.

by jenstcy on Dec 2, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

@levelhed

Here’s a doomsayer rant for you.

Since 11/20/2009 we’ve lost the following games.

at Golden State by 14
home vs. Memphis by 10
at Utah by 16
home vs. Miami by 7

Yeah, Denver lost to the T-Wolves at home. But I’ll take that single loss over two lossse to the Warriors followed by Memphis at home.

"Sometimes that light at the end of the tunnel is a train."
-- Charles Barkley

by halo_on on Dec 2, 2009 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

The Blazer is going to take months, not weeks to get dialed in.

As I stated here on Nov. 4:

Currently there is no flow on offense, while the defense is only good in streaks. It may take them 15 to 20 games to figure things out. Until then, they’re going to have to grind through games relying on raw individual talent, some luck, and poor play by the opponents.

20 game prediction: 12-8.

Except I was wrong in regards to the 15 to 20 games. The offense looks as if it may be a season long work in progress. Meanwhile, they need to stitch the defense back up to offset the inefficient O.

I’m still very optimistic but I must admit that I’ve forced myself to dial down my short term expectations for the team this year so I, as a fan, can have fun again. Perhaps the players can find a way to do the same? Enjoy what they do.

Portland's PG of the Future - MORE John Wall
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Dec 2, 2009 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

My favorite play was the quasi give-and-go

where I believe Roy got the ball into Oden and Miller quickly cut for the easy pass and layup. Roy should learn from Miller’s off-the-ball movement. Great play. Oden loves to pass and has a good eye for cutters.

by BlazerDavid on Dec 2, 2009 9:21 AM PST reply actions  

I love big men that can pass.

i cry for nic

by Cablinasian on Dec 2, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

So, maybe....

crazy thought, but maybe the offense should run through the guy who gets doubled and can make a good pass out to an open wing, or a cutter like Dre?

Nah, that’s crazy talk… we have to get the ball in Brandon’s hands, and let him dribble 25 feet from the hoop until the shot clock winds down…

by Visionary2 on Dec 2, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think Bayliss should get his dues. He is quick enough to guard the other point and he also has the ablilty to penetrate and dish or get to the rim. Roy is not a PG and needs to have someone drive and dish for his spot up jumper. At that point he can choose to shoot or drive to the hoop. As far as team leader goes we need someone that is willing to lead like Koby does for the lakers or DWade did last night for the Heat. Denying your man the ball is what you learn in grade school about defense.

by shock on Dec 2, 2009 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

Nate, elaborate on how you think Dante did as a starter...and Juwan too filling in for LMA?
I thought they did some good things…

Yes, I would tend to agree with that sentiment. Would you care to elaborate further?

…but again we had other guys that didn’t knock down shots, who we need to knock down shots and make plays. We have a couple of guys playing well but not as a unit.

FACEPALM

by pdxlifer on Dec 2, 2009 9:54 AM PST reply actions  

I don't get it.

Man am I confused. Nate keeps talking about scrapping and the need to push the ball yet he sits the ONLY player we have that will push the ball and has the only chance in heck :) to stay in front of his man. Yes, I’m talking about Bayless. Nothing else is working, why on earth doesn’t this man get more playing time, especially right now with the team struggling. I feel bad for Bayless, the guy sounds like a workaholic and still only gets 3 minutes of play. Total head scratcher.

by Flapbreaker on Dec 2, 2009 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

Rudy's minutes and role

Until and unless CoachMac actually has Rudy …

1. On the court
2. Using his skills and abilities
3. On a regular basis
4. For more minutes than Blake

Until these things happen, I’m calling “shenanigans.”
Those who disagree with this view and would side with Nate, watch out for the broom coming your way.

by HoopsFan on Dec 2, 2009 10:46 AM PST reply actions  

That

Was rich,My man.I like the product endorsement thrown in.

by DowntownVinnie on Dec 2, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

green.

i cry for nic

by Cablinasian on Dec 2, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hollinger's comments...

Until this moment it never occurred to me that the Blazers would be the ones struggling and becoming willing to give up some assets to try to better their chemistry.

by gooddebate on Dec 2, 2009 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

Take some notes from the Lakers. Motion offense and no pick and roll = points in paint. C’mon Nate change something!

by shock on Dec 2, 2009 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

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