Game 27 Recap: Portland Trail Blazers--W00T! Phoenix Suns--Dagnabbit!
Rejoice, rejoice believers, your Blazers pulled one out against the Phoenix Suns tonight. It was not only an entertaining game, it was an entertaining "W". Gotta love it.
The Blazers leapt out the gate like a ballet dancer on Red Bull, looking for all the world like they were going to beat the Suns at their own game. LaMarcus Aldridge ran like a gazelle, beating Phoenix down the court and converting chip shots. Andre Miller was also zippy. The Suns, meanwhile, seemed content to loft from distance. Even they can't get away with trading layups for 20-footers and they found themselves down 6-0 before Steve Nash caught Grant Hill for a layup of their own. Apparently that kindled something in Hill because he went on a tear and almost singlehandedly wrested control of the game away from Portland. It was like that time your grandpa caught you smoking and took you out behind the woodshed. You knew he was capable, you knew you probably deserved it, but it's still pretty bad getting beaten by an 80-year-old man. Aldridge continued scoring and Jerryd Bayless came in for some late-quarter offense and Portland found themselves down 3 when the buzzer sounded.
The early part of the second quarter went well enough. Aldridge had a dunk. Blake hit his second three-pointer of the evening. Bayless scored again. But then Amare Stoudemire started hitting mid-range jumpers. He spread the floor which opened up opportunities for the Suns' ancillary players, including Channing Frye who hit 3 threes in the period. Brandon Roy responded with a 6-point mini-run and Martell Webster hit a couple of shots, but the Suns bigs had done their damage and Portland walked into the locker room down 7. On the up side they had balanced offense, few turnovers, and plenty of energy. On the down side the Suns had all of these things as well plus marksmanship. The Blazers weren't getting regular offensive rebounds either. You started to wonder if this was going to be one of those games where we played well but just got outclassed.
The third period confirmed that impression. It started well enough with Martell Webster showing some aggression on the drive and the Blazers drawing a ton of free throws but for every point Portland scored Phoenix had an answer. Amare continued to hit, Hill made back-to-back layups, Frye hit more threes. Other than a couple bad turnovers you couldn't pinpoint anything obviously wrong with the Blazers' offense. They just didn't have quite enough of it compared to the Suns. Phoenix won their third straight quarter, this time by 4, and took an 11-point lead into the fourth.
The Blazers didn't give up, however. The guards started penetrating and passing, leading to 3 made threes within the first 3:15 of the quarter, 1 each by Webster, Roy, and Blake. This wasn't entirely surprising as those three were playing with Bayless in an ultra-small lineup with Joel at that point. The Blazers climbed instantly within 5 but then Amare reared his ugly head again, pushing the lead back to 7.
Then the entire arena froze as a primal, bloodthirsty shriek echoed through the seats and rafters. Beer vendors dropped their glasses, fans cowered, whistles fell out of refs' mouths, Coach Nate fell backwards into his seat, Monty Williams grew hair, watched it turn grey, and then sobbed as it fell out again all in an instant, and the Suns' blue and orange road uniforms suddenly included a conspicuous amount of yellow. B-Rex had arrived. And he was angry.
Well, maybe it wasn't exactly like that, but it should have been.
Jerryd had been handling the ball in a considerable number of sets up until the fourth quarter, getting a shot at playing the true point guard role even when Blake was on the court with him. He had acquitted himself quite well. But now the Blazers put the ball in Roy's hands more and had Jerryd play as the off-guard more. They'd switch up as opportunity presented itself. Any way the play developed--whether Roy drew attention and flipped the ball to Bayless for a jumper, Roy found Jerryd on the wing for a dribble penetration opportunity, or Jerryd initiated from the top--Mr. Bayless delivered. He turned in a career night, setting the Suns back on their heels with his array of offense. They couldn't stop him driving without fouling him. They wanted to concede the jumper to him but he hit those too. He also showed energy on the defensive end, crossing the lane to make plays from the weak side several times and grabbing rebounds as well. Bayless scored 15 points in the final 7 minutes of the quarter. As the Phoenix defense got divided by the barrage Roy took advantage and poured the ball in as well.
On the other end Amare started missing which put extra pressure on the Phoenix supporting cast. They couldn't deliver. Steve Nash tried to take over late but Bayless hit enough free throws to put the Suns down by 3 on the last possession and LaMarcus Aldridge forced Nash into an awkward shot that clanged off iron. Confetti drops. Everyone on the team, including some players in suits, pats and rubs Bayless' head like it was Buddha's belly, huge grins on their faces. Jerryd and Roy do the post-game interview together, looking for all the world like they're locked at the hip. And there you have it...another memorable Rose Garden victory over the Suns.
Besides the heroic scoring, Portland did a couple of things to cement this win. The disparity in field goal percentage was huge in the first half but the Blazers narrowed it to roughly 3% by the end of the game, Phoenix shooting 48% and Portland 45%. Portland matched Phoenix shot-for-shot at the three-point arc, which probably isn't a repeatable experiment but it worked tonight. The Blazers were 10-20 from distance. Most of all, the Blazers dominated at the foul line. They attempted 35 shots to the Suns' 22, hitting 25 compared to their 16. Combine that with not giving away too many easy shots via turnover and you have the margin. The Suns also helped out a little by not taking advantage of Steve Nash until too late. He obliterated both Miller and Blake at will and the best Bayless could do was try and channel him somewhere. Under no circumstances were the Blazers stopping him until that final shot. Yes, Nash had 13 assists but this looked like one of those classic "I think we're going to win this so I'm going to lay in the weeds until needed, which may be never" games from him. He shot 7-11 from the field. It probably could have been 14-22 without affecting the rest of Phoenix's game too much. It's not like he would have been taking away Frye's threes. Those came from Amare. Nevertheless, I'm perfectly happy with the way things worked out.
Click through for Individual Observations, Links, Jersey Contest Scores, Final Thoughts, and such...
Individual Observations
Brandon Roy had a nice game tonight. He didn't force too much, he drew 11 foul shots, he was 2-5 from the three-point arc, and even though 9-22 overall doesn't look that impressive whenever you can turn 9 made shots into 27 points you're doing something aggressive. Add 8 rebounds, 4 assists, and 3 steals.
LaMarcus had a stellar opening three minutes then faded offensively. Frankly the guards were playing with each other tonight and given the results that's the way it should have been. Aldridge also spent the whole night guarding scorers which may have distracted his attention. The only disappointing thing was that he didn't take full (or really any) advantage of Channing Frye's poor post defense. Had Portland not drained all of those threes we might have a different tone when discussing his contributions. He did go 5-6 from the foul line to ameliorate his 5-15 from the field. 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 turnovers, 15 points.
Jerryd Bayless: 9-15 from the floor, 2-3 from distance, 9-12 from the foul line, 29 points, 3 rebounds, 4 assists, and a 2:1 assist/turnover ratio. It was his best night as a Blazer. I saw three things that gave me hope that he can continue pressing for minutes and a bigger role. The 29 points and the drives weren't among them. Those were great but you also have to figure Phoenix played into that a little as did Sacramento the other night. It's not going to happen like that against every team. However...
1. He functioned well with the ball in his hands, finding people and setting the offense without looking confused or having to take over in order to have an impact. This may be the best he's looked ever in that vein.
2. He hit the catch-and-shoot outlet jumper just as well as he drove. That shot is his key to staying on the floor and he looks like he knows it. He's giving Brandon a look like, "You know I'm going to hit it if you give it to me." Brandon is starting to give him a look back saying he knows that he knows. It's not just the points, it's the opportunity for synergy between those two guards that the made shot creates.
3. Bayless looked good on defense tonight. He was aware of his position and what was going on around him. He helped appropriately and found something to do even when the ball wasn't with his assigned man or in his area. He was active. He moved his feet. Combined with being quicker and bigger than the other two guards that gives him an edge.
Martell Webster mixed up his game tonight and is one of the quiet heroes. Have you noticed how much better the offense functions for everyone, including the players we have just mentioned, when Martell can score a little? He's the straw that breaks the camel's back, making the defense focus in so many directions that they can't contain anymore. He went 6-10 from the floor, scoring on jumpers and at the rim both, for 15 points. Add 7 rebounds, 3 offensive, and 2 steals.
Steve Blake shot only threes tonight, which is normally something I'm not in favor of. But he hit 4-7 of them for 12 points off the bench and provided yet another guy the Suns had to watch. Again, much of the fourth-quarter heroics were enabled by these guys draining those shots and making Phoenix worry about them.
Andre Miller played only 18 minutes tonight but he had 5 assists in that limited time. He didn't get many shots up, scored 4 points, and had 2 turnovers. His defense wasn't up to the task though he did look like he could have scored on Nash more given the opportunity.
Joel Przybilla had 10 rebounds and 2 blocks after his usual fashion.
Final Thoughts
It's not often you lose 3 of 4 quarters and win the game. I wouldn't want to try it again but it sure was exciting tonight. But this is like the point of the movie when the hero has just escaped from peril by the skin of his teeth and stops to celebrate. He's smiling, laughing, maybe bragging a little, then he falls silent as he looks into the distance and sees even a bigger baddie on the horizon. Cue the scary music because the Blazers now go out on the road for 4 games: Orlando, Miami, Dallas, San Antonio. Under normal circumstances you'd hope to come away with 2 of those and call it good. Right now I'm thinking any win would make a good trip and somehow taking two would be fantastic.
See what the Phoenix guys think of Jerryd Bayless at BrightSideofttheSun.
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Oh, and enjoy the whoopin' and hollerin'!
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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what up! ....What.what.
Like what you like, enjoy what you enjoy,
don't be afraid to make slurping sounds,
and don't take crap from anybody
Team Edward or Team Jacob? ...neither..Team BAYLESS!!
Bayless pwns, spoils channings return
by tevisthe4th on Dec 18, 2009 12:04 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Channing played pretty well I thought.
Like what you like, enjoy what you enjoy,
don't be afraid to make slurping sounds,
and don't take crap from anybody
Team Edward or Team Jacob? ...neither..Team BAYLESS!!
The best moments for me at this game were.
1. Bayless and Roy sharing a 4th Q bro hug after the possession where Martell got that big Off Rebound.
2. Bayless smiling at the crowd after Phoenix calls a time out. The look of joy on his face was priceless.
3. The 4th Quarter felt like a playoff game tonight.
A lady had a great sign at the game, it was something like
“Jerryd Bayless, Welcome to Primetime”
What a great game tonight.
Like what you like, enjoy what you enjoy,
don't be afraid to make slurping sounds,
and don't take crap from anybody
Team Edward or Team Jacob? ...neither..Team BAYLESS!!
i missed that.
was that right before halftime?
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Team Edward or Team Jacob? ...neither..Team BAYLESS!!
The kiss cam was hilarious!
I don’t go to that many games (so I don’t know if I’d get tired of it) but that was some good comedy: The old lady disgustedly waving the camera off of her and her “gentleman companion”; the young couple obviously on a date and super embarrassed; Robin Lopez and Louis Amundson.
by Montavilla Steve on Dec 18, 2009 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
Remember when they had Rex and Marty on the kiss cam?
Forgot which arena it was, but Marty was cracking up while Rex looked disgusted. High comedy.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
I dont know if it was drawn up that way but
good Idea to put LMA on nash to alter the 3 point shot, he played it perfectly.
Steve filled his role well, maybe less mins.
Miller was great for getting us started.
Roy and bayless will be fearsome combo guards for any team to try and match up with.
Webster was awesome.
might have been luck..
rotations were driving me crazy tonight. Seemed like Blake kept having to try to box out Amare in the 4th.
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Team Edward or Team Jacob? ...neither..Team BAYLESS!!
I was worried
the suns had guys camped around the arc, and our defenders kept cheating in towards the lane. Yikes!
seemed like they always had someone open...
just depended if they got that extra pass or not.
Like what you like, enjoy what you enjoy,
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rotations weren't the best tonight, but
Phoenix is a very quick team, and Lamarcus did seem to be bothering Nash a lot on the switch. We seemed to be covering the first pass pretty well, but the second pass stung us a lot.
by Chadillac5000 on Dec 18, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
Should have fouled
They had no timeouts so it would have been basically game over.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Apparently, the instruction was foul if Nash catches it first
And play straight on if someone else catches first.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Opposite - foul anyone but Nash
Because Nash would catch and shoot and have 3 free throws on the foul
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
not drawn up
players were told to switch on every picks and guard outside shot only. Aldridge happened to switch to Nash at that moment
I new this was going to be a great game!
Got unexpected tickets, sat in the section where they passed the ball down and actually got to touch it, thanks to the kindness of the guy in front of us…and then BAYLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
by Norsktroll on Dec 18, 2009 12:24 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
I, for one,
look forward to the day when Jerryd is playing the whole game and scoring 48 points.
by jigglyai on Dec 18, 2009 12:26 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I like him coming off the bench for now.
I think we need that spark. He’s Travis until Travis comes back.
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and Rudy - did you see him bury those threes?
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
yeah, his confidence was great tonight.
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For now, yes.
He’ll need to work on his post entry passing and tighten up his handle versus pressure D this off-season.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Yeah, only Travis isn't even in the same zip code in terms of efficiency
Travis TS% .429
Bayless TS% .645
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 1:27 AM PST up reply actions
Yikes, I didn't realize Travis was so bad
Having an ‘instant offense’ guy who gets to the line so much, even if Bayless never develops past that, is pretty valuable.
Morty
#52
Also, my guess is that his TS % shoots up quite a bit in the 4th quarter.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Outlaw had a really good shooting year.
His 3-point shot fell off near the end, but it was still much improve from the previous season.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
he's already developed past that
making J’s, making passes, playing defense. He ain’t perfect, but he is a difference maker.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 1:35 AM PST up reply actions
Bayless was "all the way turnt up"
“We believe”
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Great Win
Miller since starting, Blazers have won both games. He has played ok out there and it takes the pressure off Blake starting. Since the new lineup, Blake has looked better out there, hitting the 3 shot. Bayless great game and for a change Nate made some good subs out there. Going with Roy, Bayless and Webster and even Blake I thought it was awful choice but it won us the game. Webster has started to improve his game along with Blake. Big Rebounds for Web. I really like what im watching since the move to Miller starting and Blake on the second unit.
I give a lot of credit to Nate making some good choices out there and going with the hot hand. I hope to see more of it. Everyone is always on Nate about rotations but I think this time he did a great job of it.
I'm not diggin it
Miller had some nice assists early; but he has had some bad, bad moments in both games.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 1:18 AM PST up reply actions
As a group, Miller, Roy, Webster, LA, Przy have been good
Unfortunately, Nate likes to pull Webster early for Blake..and that’s when we give up the lead.
Same pattern both games.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Nate pulled Webster 5minutes into the game
and the Blazers went from +5 to -5 in under 3 minutes.
Can anyone give me a rational explanation for Nate doing this? It seems like nothing more than a tactic to get more minutes for the coaches pet.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 1:30 AM PST up reply actions
That was pretty surprising
well, no, that’s the wrong word, I guess. Maybe disappointedly predictable.
No clue
You’d think since Webby is our only true SF left, you’d play him more, not less.
Not only there’s matchup issues (well, not tonight, but usually) but our rebounding goes to crap as well because you are pulling a good rebounder for a bad one. We were getting creamed by the Suns of all teams until 4th quarter.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
by xedubx on Dec 18, 2009 1:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't like it either
I believe it was because Nate felt like, without Richardson in there, he could afford to go with 3 guards and have Roy guard Hill.
But since Roy is not used to guarding someone in transition who gets the ball a lot, it failed miserably. And we don’t want to have Roy working so hard on defense anyways. It just wasn’t a good idea.
Martell can afford and wants to expend the energy on defense to keep up with whoever he is guarding, and seemed like a much better choice. I think Nate thought he could get more offense and movement with Blake out there over Martell, and could afford the lack of defense because Jason Richardson was out.
Like I said, I didn’t like it from the beginning.
Morty
#52
Totally agreed.
I think Webster is really starting to get the rust off his game. I like his defense better than Roy at the 3, and I like that he hits the boards better.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 1:44 AM PST up reply actions
Definitely lot better hop to his step compared to earlier in the year...
Is BE’s new project going to be “Free Marty”?
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Marty is the new Travis
undersized PF, playing during crunch time
and Bayless is the new-improved Outlaw, making unconscious shots in late game situations
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
That slam was delicious !!!
This is the Martell I’ve been pumping for years now.
Energy, slashing, then once the motor is revvvvving, now
dial long distance.
Keep it up, 3M !!!!!!
P.S. – Big board at the end. Get UP, Martell !
It's GO time !
I didn't like it, either
And with Hill just starting to heat up. And boy, did he heat up after Martell went out.
But Martell was a huge hero in the fourth tonight. He didn’t get the notice Jerryd got, but those were some big rebounds, he got that block on Amare from the side, the putback was huge.
#52
I thought that it was one of Martell's best NBA games
It may not have been as flashy as the 24-point quarter, but he did all the right things at the right times – it was almost like he was willing the Blazers to the win.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
He went crazy in the fourth
Even that one time near the end when Nash went for the quick layin, Martell comes flying to try and block it, even though there was no chance of getting there in time.
And it was as if he was saying, “This next rebound is going to be mine, I don’t care what!”
You know, one of the knocks on Martell has been that he disappears late in big situations. This is the kind of game that can change all of that for good — once you have big success, you have the confidence you can do it again. This game may have been huge for us beyond the emergence of Bayless — it could be the one that Martell took the step to be a real contributor to a quality team.
#52
by jscot on Dec 18, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
remember during the offseason
Martell said he was more interested in being a “finisher” than a starter?
Last night he backed up his words with actions. Here’s hoping for more of the same, out on the road
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
At least Nate gave him big props
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
The results of that experiment bear your comment out.
I agree with you King. – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Fun game.
Nuff said!
Mortimer
#52
You forgot
JEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYDDDDDDDDDD.
There, now enough has been said.
B REXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Wow, what a game!
Amazing comeback and the coaches did a great job of trusting Bayless to keep it together out there. We can’t overlook how unusual that is, injuries or not, for a young guy to be out there in crunch time.
I try not to read too much into one game but that fourth quarter felt special, if Bayless and Roy can build on that we might see a real key connection for the future of this team. And if they can build on this, whether it’s a bench thing or eventually a starting lineup, it does open up some room on the roster if you suddenly have another guy who can come through in crunch time.
Is this just one great night, or is Roy going to bed tonight thinking “I want that guy on the floor with me every night.” If so, how does that impact the role (and trade value) of Outlaw, Blake, etc. I’m really curious to see how this plays out on the big road trip and how Bayless responds.
He was hugging J-Bay at the end
Like he was saying “This is my MAN!”
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Roy + Bayless!
This was the first game in which Bayless made Roy better instead of just taking the ball out of his hands and letting him stand around. The Suns would try to shut down one of them and the other would be left open and kill them — it worked both ways. This gives me a lot of hope.
KP is a genius.
He knew this would happen. Or, he has descended from Nostradamus and can see into the future.
He's been saying it all along
(so have I and some people around here)
#52
Yes, yes and yes
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
I haven't felt this good after a win
Since the second Laker win last April, honestly neither of the playoff wins felt this good because they were desperation.
BIG BIG win.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I've never seen anyone so angry...
…as Bayless is with himself when he misses a free throw.
Please, Mr McMillan, sir……I’d like s’more Rex please……
Yes! Yes! In the face!
droppin F-bombs on the big screen.
I like his passion.
Like what you like, enjoy what you enjoy,
don't be afraid to make slurping sounds,
and don't take crap from anybody
Team Edward or Team Jacob? ...neither..Team BAYLESS!!
National TV ... End of Game....Closeup.....F-Bomb
pretty funny moment
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 1:19 AM PST up reply actions
So that did get on TNT too!
Saw it on the bigscreen. Hilarious.
by ShannyMcShanShan on Dec 18, 2009 1:22 AM PST up reply actions
Nothin' like an f-bomb
in high-definition. No way to disguise that.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
J-Bay Tweets very simply:
Happy
That is all he needs to say
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
it will be interesting to read his next blog entry
to see how well he puts this big game into perspective
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Winning is fun
Especially at home:
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Dec 18, 2009 12:43 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Yep...
Somebody musta put some robotic vision in JB’s food. Incredible
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Give it up for coaching.
They went to a small lineup knowing that the Suns couldn’t beat them inside the paint. Przybilla played great, but this just wasn’t the game for him. Going to a lineup of Webster, Blake, Roy, Bayless, and LMA caused havoc on the Suns perimeter defense. That lineup had enough athleticism to crash the boards and help on defense.
Bayless deserves kudos for his breakout game, but the coaching staff made the right adjustments at the right time.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I woulda' never done it
And woulda’ blasted the decision if it didn’t work as well, because I am petty.
I hate matching up to the opponents by going small, especially one who plays small so well like Phoenix does. I wanted to use our natural size as an advantage, and since we don’t got any good rebounders when Joel sits, I didn’t want to rely on it.
Thankfully, it worked. We got to keep 5 guys who can score on the floor, and we didn’t get punished on the boards.
Good call, Natie Pie!
Mortimer
#52
only reason it worked was Martell manning up and owning the glass late in the game. He was a stud tonight.
hire tim grover
#52
I thought I heard that!
He’s almost as good as Jeff Blake and Greg Odom.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
(explanation for those at the game)
(The announcer for the game was the Suns local TV announcer because Marv was sick, and he called Martell “Marcus Webster”).
M—
#52
Definitely that guy
He made Mike Barret sound fair and balanced for crying out loud. Though in his defense TNT teamed him up with the Miller family. That’s setting anyone up for failure.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
It was funny how dejected he sounded when Nash or Amare missed shots towards the end.
To be fair of course, he spends his whole season turning it up when the Suns do well, so it’s hard to turn that off for one game.
—M
#52
The best guy of the week was the Bucks color announcer
First he flipped out about Kobe getting that star call on Bogut, then you could hear him yell “MISS IT!” on the final shot. Priceless. That sent Wojnarowski into a Twitter rage.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Though it sparked the media moment of the night, when they erroneously gave to Cheryl Miller just before the end of a quarter and she responded “Ugh, I got nothing for you. Absolutely nothing”.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
That was good indeed.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Whenever I watch the game at home
I have to wonder if Mike Barret is even watching the game! He makes so many mistakes about who did what, and even who is in the game!
They managed to do that too. Instead of Miller he declared Roy went down with the hit, and he was happy to tell the story how the Blazers had signed Tolliver until he realized the guy who had come back into the game was Martell.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Gary Bender has been around for some time
and does a pretty good job.
Try keeping in mind that he was asked to fill in at the last minute. He’s the Sun’s home broadcast guy so if it appeared that he showed a bit of favoritism (not that I noticed) it is understandable.
Imagine what would happen if any of us was tagged for the job. There would a lot of dead air time, with half of what was said consisting or uh’s and likes and you knows.
hakkaa päälle !
he used to be a great NFL announcer
He did a lot of big games back in the day, then CBS gave up their NFL package and he was gone. CBS got their NFL package back and he wasn’t part of it – so what was up with that?
He did some college hoops for CBS back then too, and back then he was a lot more solid. I think his game is off compared with what he was back then. – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
Well, let's not go that far, shall we?
Are you going to tell me that Mike Rice doesn’t drink, next?
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
He also called Jerryd "Gerald" Bayless
Right after the game was over and showing him walking off court. It’s like a disease or something.
by conspirator5 on Dec 18, 2009 3:15 AM PST up reply actions
"inside information"?
;)
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Hard to keep some guys on the floor
with all the bad calls! (Granted, all officiating looks terrible when viewed live from the 300 level rooting for the home team!).
I probably would have crucified Nate if Oden wasn't injured and he went that small.
One of those games where all the pieces seemed to fit since the Suns didn’t have JRich or Barbosa available.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
It was one year ago
That Roy exploded on Phoenix for what was a signature win for this team.
It makes sense J-Bay would do the same one year later.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
This was one of three games I get to go to this year
I really liked the sub patterns in this game! I know dre doesn’t have a great box score, but he gets our offense going in a way Steve just doesn’t. I like him starting.
And I like that coach rode the hot hands.
And I LOVED — repeat, LOVED — the hustle from Martell tonight. The putbacks and rebounds were huge down the stretch.
by Montavilla Steve on Dec 18, 2009 12:49 AM PST reply actions
Last year I went to three games
The first one was the Houston B-Roy miracle, so yeah I know what you mean by this being awesome.
This year I get minimum 10 thanks to my quarter season pack.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I freaked out my dog
When Nash missed that last shot, I screamed loudly in relief and pleasure. My dog ran from the room. I petted her and she now loves me again.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Me too
’Cept replace “dog” with “wife”.
Oh wait…TMI.
—Dave
by Dave on Dec 18, 2009 1:11 AM PST up reply actions 6 recs
does your wife root for the game clock to keep moving at the end of the game
like mine does?
“Go clock, Go!”
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I would replace dog with 'wife and child'
Let's do it for the big man!...and Rudy!....and Nic!...and, uh, Trout, Pendy, Patty, Mo, Mr. Allen, and Nate!
Rehab With Us
My dogs
the female won’t stay in the same room, she goes and sleeps in a closet
the male lies next to me and gives me the “tone it down, I’m sleeping” when I get going.
they’re both 15 now, so they are used to it.
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
I was at the game, and I've never seen such a turnaround in energy on a team and
in an arena as happened in the first 3 minutes of the 4th quarter, it went from depressing to insane instantly.
From the nosebleeds it looked to me that while Roy and Bayless have some rough edges to their game when playing with each other, they also have chemistry. The tow of them were lioghting it up and playing off each other for about 9 electric minutes. Very cool.
Playing armchair psychiatrist
I think Bayless and Roy “like” each other more, with Bayless being fine with it being Roy’s team and just wanting to play, and Roy likes how Bayless defers to him and lets him be the main man without any debate. Dre, as an older vet, just wouldn’t do that the same.
This, perhaps, will make it easier for Roy to develop chemistry on the court with Bayless, moreso than he has done with Dre.
Who knows. It worked tonight!
Morty
#52
not a small point
Miller still has something to offer (maybe??), but Bayless is the best fit to play off Roy – and I think it is pretty obvious to the players as well.
Comfort with teammates = chemistry. The alchemy worked, tonight.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 1:23 AM PST up reply actions
I would much rather the PG rotation be Dre and Bayless
With the still-likely-inconsistent-and-learning Bayless playing the backup and earning more minutes when he’s got it going. Dre plays the PG otherwise.
There is no reason Dre and Roy can’t work well together.
—M
#52
shouldn't be
and I’ve been all over the map on this one.
It’s the non-Roy issues that are plaguing Miller right now – such as his degraded ability to score efficiently every other game and a half or two and his incomprehensible turnovers. Something ain’t right with Miller.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 1:31 AM PST up reply actions
BRex
Has stolen ’Dre’s Mojo.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
It's been the plan from the beginning that
Roy and Bayless will be the backcourt of the future. So nice to see the promise materializing so soon. A heady feeling to see young Rex integrated into our lineup.
But don’t sell Dre short. He may be a step slower and takes some really ugly shots, and he may lose control more than he used to, causing us to slap our foreheads and moan, ‘oohhh, ANdreee…’, but he makes some sick assists, gets Lamarcus involved with good looks, and is doing intangible things to help our offense evolve. Old man still needs to learn us a few things. And I’d say that he remains a net positive, with a high-likelihood of tuning up his game as the season progresses.
by Chadillac5000 on Dec 18, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Well right now Roy is our only SG, so that would force us to sub Blake for Roy, which could be good or bad.
by JordanLeDoux on Dec 18, 2009 2:00 AM PST up reply actions
Martell can play some 2… although he is our only healthy 3 at the moment so that complicates that.
by danielfarrell on Dec 18, 2009 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
This is why I didn't want to p/u a FA PG . . .
B-Rex was ready for minutes & the experience to be
BRoy’s running mate. We knew Rex wasn’t a pure PG, but
with Roy initiating much of the time, What’s the Dif ?
B-Rex’s athleticism, attack mode and little arm chip makes
him the ultimate predator !! RAAAAAWWWOOR !!!
It's GO time !
So glad I was at this game tonight
What a great win. So nice to see Bayless come out like this in person tonight, and the fans are really behind the guy.
Still don’t understand why/how Blake gets the minutes he does. Everyone sitting around me knows how easily he gets beat off the dribble and how he easy he is to pick. Causes so many problems. Nate needs to quit seeing himself in Blake and get to playing Miller and Bayless as the primary PGs.
Miller wasn't that great tonight
perhaps because of getting hit in the eye…but in any event, playing Blake in the 4th quarter seems to have payed off in the last two games.
well
he was just okay in the 4th. all game, though, his defense led to problems in team defense. it’s so obvious and painful. he can’t fight through screens so he ends up guarding hill or amar’e, as noted below.
I have to wonder what you are watching ...
… because I’m not seeing this at all. I keep seeing Blake playing solid defense. Better than Miller in most cases.
hakkaa päälle !
…Steve Blake continued to guard whoever it was that Steve Blake thinks he’s guarding."-Kelly Dwyer
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 18, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions
When are people going to realize that guys like Dwyer (i,e, all sports journalists)
are good at writing but not necessarily qualified as analysts?
Dwight Jaynes has probably seen more games, and closeup at that, then the majority of BEdger’s combined. He knows a thing or two. But he’s also wrong at least as often as he’s right, if not more so.
hakkaa päälle !
I completely agree.
I just don’t think he’s wrong in this case.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 18, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
I mentioned elsewhere - Blake's effort is legit
just not very effective. It didn’t help Blake’s case that Bayless manages to at least stay in front of his man most of the time and worse, looks like he is figuring out the weakside defense scheme.
Bayless baiting Hill into an offensive charge when it was Blake (I believe) guarding Hill that was one of my favorite moments of the game (and this game was LOADED with big moments).
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
I think Blake tries hard.
I have seen Blake play good defense before and it’s something I really started to watch especially close this year, but compared to the other guards I think he’s the weakest overall.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 18, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Blake is a guy who will do what you ask
The game plan was obviously to switch on the p’n’r to use LMA’s and/or Martell’s length to harass Nash, by playing off him to negate his quickness but using the long reach to contest the shot. That left Blake switched off on Hill and Frye and sometimes even Amare.
He busted his rear end denying the ball, fronting even Channing, and fighting for position when they’d get the ball and back him down. We got beat that way at times, but on the whole, it was a good defensive scheme. It kept Nash quiet, and Blake was able to deny the ball or get help often enough to make it pretty effective. We held their scoring down despite excellent shooting from deep.
It’s not a great plan long term, it might not work next time because they’ll be prepared for it, but when you are missing Greg and Nic, it isn’t bad.
Blake did exactly what was asked, and worked very hard at it. People who bash his defense in this game are simply not aware of the obvious defensive game plan, which was well conceived and fairly well executed.
#52
by jscot on Dec 18, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You're right. But.
I was at the game and just subjectively when Blake came into the game it was like someone let the air out of the tires on offense.
You can still drive, but it’s not fun.
I think he’s fine in the role he’s in right now, though maybe andre should get a few of his minutes, but when Rudy comes back, cutting Bayless’s minutes to keep Blake on the floor will make me nuts.
The Blazers came back in the 2nd with Blake, Roy and Bayless playing
The did it again in the 4th. Blake only gets credit or pointed out when he makes a mistake.
Well, Blake was basically on the floor the whole darn game it seemed like
so yes he got some run when things were going well. But when he would first get subbed in, the Blazers would lose ground at the rate of about a point a minute while he was in the game. I don’t think he’s a bad player. I think he’s a pretty good player who I’d like to see on the court about 20 minutes a game.
Two comments about "air out of the tires"
First, I think you are absolutely right about the first quarter. I have no clue why Nate took out Martell so early for Blake. We were playing well, and it was after like 3 1/2 minutes. It was so early I thought Martell must have been missing assignments or something — and if it was, we’ll never know. But things immediately died, Hill went wild.
Second, it was Blake and Martell hitting those threes early in the fourth that got the team believing we could do this. Blake was in his element in the fourth — a complementary deep-threat outlet to spread the court for the aggressive players who are taking it to the hoop and scoring or dishing. It was perfect.
So you are half right and half wrong. Blake was an important contributor to the fourth quarter run especially. They couldn’t collapse in the paint because we were dropping 3s from all over the court, and he was a key part of that.
But in the first, his insertion (to my point of view) killed us.
#52
by jscot on Dec 18, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
you are wreckin' it jscot
and I keep rec’in you…
Let's do it for the big man!...and Rudy!....and Nic!...and, uh, Trout, Pendy, Patty, Mo, Mr. Allen, and Nate!
Rehab With Us
+/-
Blake +1
Cunningham +4
Bayless +13
Webster +18
everybody else was in the red
http://stats.oregonlive.com/nba/boxscore.asp?gamecode=2009121722&home=22&vis=21&final=true
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Uh, no.
People who bash his defense in this game are simply not aware of the obvious defensive game plan, which was well conceived and fairly well executed.
I was aware of it. I still think he’s a rotten defender. That’s one step away from, “Do you even watch basketball?”.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 18, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
My comment was less directed at you
and more at those who bashed him because he never fought through a pick in this game. He obviously wasn’t supposed to.
#52
Blake's defense
Strangely, they put him on LeBron late in the Cleveland game, and he did quite well. The announcers even commented on it.
Didn't Lebron just shoot over the top of him.
I feel like he scored consecutive points and Portland was forced to call a timeout and make adjustments.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 18, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
Right
While I agree with a lot of the people who’ve been saying that Blake should play behind Miller and Bayless and as a role-player/spot-up shooter, I also think we are pretty unfair to the guy. For one, people constantly devalue Blake’s defense. Remember Ben’s post, It’s Bayless Time? In the Synergy analysis that Ben cited, Blake scored an 85% on defensive efficiency, compared to 62% for Miller and 49% for Bayless. While these numbers may be skewed for a number of reasons, some of which Ben listed, I think it clearly shows that this abominable, atrocious Blake defense might be somewhat imaginary.
Blake has frustrated me this year, particularly with his hesitance to take open shots or pass when a big is in position to strike, but it almost frustrates me more that people keep up these broken-record criticisms, bashing the dude even when he has a decent game. He did his job last night.
by Chadillac5000 on Dec 18, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
but
I too was wondering why Nate pulled Martell so early, though. Webster had a seriously impressive game last night. Some of my favorite moments: Webster cutting baseline to get the hand-off from LMA for the reverse layup, the monster put-back, the monster fourth-quarter rebound, and one moment that I can’t quite place, but it involved Webster wrestling a rebound away from one of their bigs with sheer passion and will. Martell rocks.
by Chadillac5000 on Dec 18, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
But that is not a discredit to Blake - it was Roy's defense that got exposed with Hill
I would like to see Martell stay in the game but the point is Blake is a hustling scrappy player who might still be our best perimeter defender. He draws the toughest assignment so he looks worse than those guarding easier players? It would seem so.
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
Not totally Brandon’s fault, either — he’s a guard trying to check a SF in that situation. Which is why it’s hard to see our only SF come out. Man, we were so stacked at the 3 before Batum and Outlaw went down…
by Chadillac5000 on Dec 19, 2009 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, I agree
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
The one thing that really bothered me
one aspect of our defense…
at least 5 times, Steve Blake ended up guarding Grant Hill or Amar’e or someone bigger than him, and Phoenix would, logically, just iso that guy up.
I started watching more closely and it happened at least when I saw because Blake didn’t quite fight through screens fast enough. But of course you can’t go under the screen on Steve Nash.
This led to me wondering why we had Blake on Nash, rather than Bayless, especially when the Suns’ other guard was Dragic. Thoughts?
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
For the first 3 quarters, it was design.
In the 4th quarter, we were supposed to play them straight up. But, Blake just failed to fight through.
My guess is that Bayless is more handsy than Blake, and fouling Nash is a bad idea. Hence, Blake on Nash.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
blake
always fails to fight through. see my comments above. all the random people around me had the same blake complaints that i did. i was keying in on him in the first half, and it was so pathetic. i like blake. good guy, good, hard worker. but he has no place in this rotation. i’m not sure he has a place in this league much longer.
that said, i’m not mad at blake. it’s nate’s rotation.
To be fair
When they had the mic on the Blazers’ huddle, I heard Nate say on at least three different occasions "everybody switch on the pick’.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
yes
and Lamarcus really did seem to be bothering Nash on the switch.
by Chadillac5000 on Dec 18, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
He doesn't always fail to fight thru
At least once I saw him make it thru the pick ….then still switched..it was definitely by design
" Welcome to the Bedge....where good, is never good enough"…Rudiculous
by 92wastheyear on Dec 18, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Bayless smiled at Suns coach when he made a clutch 3
I just caught that on ESPN. Anybody know what’s the deal in that? Maybe an U of Arizona-Phoenix Suns connection?
That's a funny joke.
Gentry looked like he liked it.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 18, 2009 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not joking.
I thought Bayless played a funny joke on Gentry, who seemed to like it.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 18, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
Bayless lives in phx in the off-season
He knows all those guys. He credits Frank Johnson with a lot of his success this season. – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
some other observations
1) Bayless’ reads on defense. He was in position repeatedly for help defense, such as when he drew the offensive foul against G.H., and shoulda drawn one against Amare
2) Bayless’ passing
3) Roy scrapping (lot of hustle plays that directly contributed to the win)
4) Webster’s mad dunk & tip in off ft
5) Completely different attitude in general from all the players in the fourth – and it seemed to start with Roy
6) Phoenix has been good, and the Blazers took this one by making plays against an opponent that traditionally gives it fits. Interesting development all on its own.
7) Mac’s rotations drive me nuts until the win is in the books, and then it drives me nuts remembering how it drove me nuts….
in addition to marty's dunk and tip in
he had that huge offensive rebound
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Bayless (in a 2 guard lineup)
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
#4
Can someone give a rational explanation of why blake plays 36 minutes a game?
by thomasikehara on Dec 18, 2009 1:42 AM PST up reply actions
that was another very athletic play
Martell can do some things that others can’t
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 3:05 AM PST up reply actions
To me this is just as important as Bayless's night.
Marty showed that he needs to get the majority of minutes at the 3. Especially since Roy hates to defend the Grant Hills and Gerald Wallaces of the world. – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
If Jerryd has that corner 3 down, watch out...
what a great coming out party after all too long a wait. Bayless is going to be getting his action, and this all but forces KP’s hand to make a trade of one of the other PG’s. Bayless and Roy has always made sense on paper, it’s good to see it make sense on the court.
In a nutshell: the difference when Bayless is in the game vs Blake or Miller
When Blake is in the game he is a one dimensional scoring threat. If he can’t hit the three he is pretty useless.
When Miller is in the game he has the threat of penetration and a decent mid-range game, but he is lousy from distance.
Bayless, or the “new Bayless” with the working J, is a multi-dimensional scoring threat just like Roy.
Combined with LMA and Marty hitting a decent % from outside, that just puts too much pressure on the defense. Now it is easier to do that to the Suns who are a weak defensive team, but you can see the outlines of what is coming. Throw in GO, and our offense is basically unstoppable.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 1:41 AM PST reply actions
Well, it'll be unstoppable when Roy or Bayless learns to properly pass into the low post
But I agree with your premise.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Bayless looks to be working on it
It isn’t perfect or pretty, but he’s working on it. Now we just need Roy to take Remedial Entry Passing 101.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
nice lob on the break from Rex to LMA
Here’s hoping Andre’s entry pass skills will keep rubbing off, on Jerryd and Brandon
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Bayless and Oden.
If they could get better together as a working pair, it would help the team immensely. Roy just seems incapable of producing the right amount of spacing after a screen. Oden needs to improve his picks and footwork. Bayless could improve his timing and setting up his defender for a screen.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Totally agreed
Oden with his size, power, and soft hands seems like a natural for the pick and roll.
I wonder if Roy’s struggles in getting it right are a matter of coaching or something to do with his skill set or court vision. He should be able to do it much better than he does.
Bayless has even farther to go, but he does seem to be coachable.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 2:15 AM PST up reply actions
I think its "under development"
Roy has been much better this year than years past (although there seem to be a lot of opportunities missed, still)
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 3:07 AM PST up reply actions
I would assume a team that prepares for Bayless can still throw him off fairly easily. BUT you have much more trouble covering Bayless, Roy, and a third backcourt player like Webster or Rudy or Nic plus a frontcourt scoring threat with LaMarcus at the same time than everyone standing around and watching Roy operate.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Not Pictured:
Steve Nash shrieking back in fear
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
that win
made my night!
cheers to you Bayless and your awkwardly predictable looking three ball!
YOU MADE IT!!! That is all that matters!
Picturing it
A starting lineup of Bayless, Roy, Batum, Aldridge, Oden
a thing of beauty fellows, a thing of beauty.
Oh Yeah!
Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."
And a bench of Webster, Fernandez, and Pryz
I’m not thinking about Blake or Miller, because in that lineup they’d be traded for Brook Lopez already.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
and until they all get back from injury
for crying out loud, let’s give Bayless, Roy, Webster, Aldridge, Przybilla a chance. – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
Meh
Bayless set his season high for turnovers, with two.
…
Great win. Absolutely a great win. And if teams weren’t paying attention after the Kings game, they will be now. One more thing they have to game plan against, because Bayless can beat you.
We’ll see some adjustments before long. It always happens. But that will open the door for other things.
#52
I like how Bayless stepped up to be the guy who steps out of bounds
I need to watch again, but I think he was using the jump pass too.
No respect for veterans, if he is
Andre and Steve have been trying to corner the market on the jump pass this year.
Maybe he thinks it’s a veteran trick and they are mentoring him when they do it.
#52
Nash was using the jump pass
When you’re Steve Nash, you can get away with bad fundamentals
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I think you mean
Nash puts the “Fun” in Fundamentals
" Welcome to the Bedge....where good, is never good enough"…Rudiculous
by 92wastheyear on Dec 18, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
people who are handling the ball and trying to do something get turnovers
I like the 2:1 ratio of assists to turnovers. It needs to be 3:1 though – that’s when he will have arrived. – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
I'll never like Bayless the person, but I can't complain about his game last night
If the game Bayless played is the punchbowl, when will folks start to acknowledge that Miller is the turd in the punchbowl?
Before these last two games, fans were complaining after wins about the defense, the isolation play at the end of quarters, and poor point guard play. It’s all still there. Roy and Bayless both dribbled at the top of the key and waited to attack with under 10 seconds left. Should have been more ball movement and player movement.
KP has had 3 days to trade Miller and and he has failed miserably. I am losing faith in KP by the hour. I’m not ready for Bayless to start, but one thing for certain is that Miller is getting too many minutes.
If Blake was starting and playing like Miller, fans would be ever so angry that he got 18 minutes
I don’t understand why fans are so upset about Roy not touching a ball in the off season but OK with Miller not touching a ball in the off season and it still shows a quarter of the way into the season.
by tominhawaii on Dec 18, 2009 7:50 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
There's one failure in your premise though..
Blake doesn’t get 18 minutes, he gets 36 no matter what. Hence, the reason for our ire.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
KP has had 3 days to trade Miller and and he has failed miserably. I am losing faith in KP by the hour.
Then you need to root for a contending team to lose their starting PG to injury in the next couple of months. KP will flip Andre and make the opposing GM pay dearly, if that happens
Unless he trades Blake and his expiring contract, first
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Blazer's Edge night!
You need to root for a contending team to lose their starting PG to injury in the next couple of months.
Chris Paul is guaranteed to go down when he plays Portland.
problem with that
If CP3 was lost for a chunk of the season, I doubt NOLA would pursue a veteran PG. They’d probably just shrivel up and die
It’s got to be a team who has ‘higher expectations’ and a veteran roster who can’t afford to wait around and play a backup PG or a young kid…like the Spurs?
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Orlando is already there
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
WHO WANTS TO START THE "START REX" CAMPAIGN?
Some more games like this and he should be a shoo-in for starter. Nash was disgusted at the end.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"If the NBA were on channel 5 and a bunch of frogs making love were on channel 4, I'd watch the frogs, even if they were coming in fuzzy." - Bobby Knight
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
Brilliant Dave!
“Then the entire arena froze as a primal, bloodthirsty shriek echoed through the seats and rafters. Beer vendors dropped their glasses, fans cowered, whistles fell out of refs’ mouths, Coach Nate fell backwards into his seat, Monty Williams grew hair, watched it turn grey, and then sobbed as it fell out again all in an instant, and the Suns’ blue and orange road uniforms suddenly included a conspicuous amount of yellow. B-Rex had arrived. And he was angry.”
I love it!
Poll response: Yay!
Not RWROWR or MVP! or anything like that, yet.
I think everyone should keep in mind that this is the same guy who failed pretty miserably in summer league, to the extent that the Blazers had to resort to Pooh Jeter to show him the way at that time.
Is it as simple as throwing a switch to the On position?
Another thing we are overlooking here is that Webster had a superb game. I would think that, when taking the performances last night of Webster and Bayless into consideration, there is going to be a lot less time on the court for players like Blake, Rudy, Outlaw, and Batum.
But let’s wait and see first. How will Bayless react when he has a less-than-stellar game? How will Nate react? – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
by 22baylor on Dec 18, 2009 10:45 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Summer League doesn't matter
I believe Bayless was under instructions (or under self-imposed pressure) to pass the ball in summer league. He didn’t have much of a team to pass to, ergo, he didn’t look good pushing himself to be a point guard instead of a scorer.
I hope by next year he’ll put together driving + shooting + passing + defense. Last year all he did was drive the lane, but this year he’s starting to look more complete. By next year (or this year’s playoffs?), maybe he’ll have it all together. That’s something to hope for, at least.
right
playing alongside Roy >>> playing with a summer league roster full of dreck guards (besides Pooh) It would’ve been interesting to see Patty Mills run with Jerryd in Vegas
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Things that can give Bayless a bigger role
1. He functioned well with the ball in his hands, finding people and setting the offense without looking confused or having to take over in order to have an impact. This may be the best he’s looked ever in that vein.
Thanks Dave for putting this as Number One. I agree that this is the most important thing that will lead to minutes for him, especially in the long term as Roy returns to play more 2 than 3, and Rudy comes back from injury. – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
Martell Webster mixed up his game tonight and is one of the quiet heroes. Have you noticed how much better the offense functions for everyone, including the players we have just mentioned, when Martell can score a little?
And stated conversely: have we noticed how much better Martell’s overall game is when the offense is functioning better for everyone, ie, moving the ball and moving players around? – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
Yeah, some cause and effect questions there
It’s hard to say whether Martell hitting opens things up for everyone else or whether the offense flowing smoothly lets Martell shoot more in rhythm. It certainly doesn’t seem like Webster lights things up early and then things flow better, but it’s hard to say.
#52
Great game- still room for improvement
First, as a UofA alum, I have been a huge Bayless promoter to anyone who will listen to me. I love what he brings and think he can be a serious contributor to the Blazers. As great as last night’s game was, we shouldn’t expect it every night. He had one of those shooting nights where the basket looks as big around as Limbaugh’s waistline. It was nice to see, but can’t be expected every single game.
Also, as has been mentioned already, the Suns didn’t have a plan for him. If he continues to play 20+ minutes and perform well, opposing teams will have a plan going in. They will learn his tendencies and weaknesses and do a better job of exploiting them than the Suns did last night. This doesn’t mean he won’t also adapt and improve, but he isn’t going to be catching teams completely by surprise anymore.
I am relieved to see how much smoother his shot looks this year. I am happy to see him decide whether he is going to attack the rim or kick the ball out while he is making his drive instead of before he begins it. But, he still needs to work on his handle. He doesn’t control the ball well enough and will continue to give up steals and strips to high end defensive players. Roy has this problem as well, which is the one thing that concerns me about going full-bore about a Rex/Roy backcourt.
by random_rider on Dec 18, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
This is not a statement about who should play but consider the advanced statistics to date
Best PER on the team? (source Basketball-Reference.com – omitting injured players)
- Bayless 20.6
- Roy 19.3
- Aldridge 17.6
- Miller 14.2
- Cunningham 14.0
Best TS% on the team?
- Bayless .641%
- Howard .629%
- Przybilla 55.2%
- Roy 54.3%
- Webster 51.5%
Best eFG% on the team?
- Howard 59.1%
- Bayless 55.4%
- Cunningham 52.4%
- Miller 51.0%
- Przybilla 50.6%
Best Total Rebound % on the team?
- Przybilla 20.9%
- Cunningham 15.0%
- Aldridge 13.4%
- Howard 11.0%
- Webster 8.6%
Best Assist % on the team?
- Miller 28.3%
- Roy 26.0%
- Blake 20.2%
- Bayless 19.2%
- Aldridge 10.0%
Highest Usage % on the team?
- Roy 27.6%
- Bayless 24.8%
- Miller 22.2%
- Aldridge 22.0%
- Webster 18.4%
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."

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