Gameday Open Thread: Suns vs. Blazers--Post-Game
by Dave on Dec 17, 2009 10:00 PM PST
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PrintWhat did you notice about the game that was significant, interesting, or otherwise discussion-worthy? Carry on the conversation here as you await the game recap and the Media Row Report.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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J-Bay!
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:02 PM PST reply actions
This is very exciting to see.
Granted, the Suns suck at defense but…
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
The Post-Game Thread
Or as is the case for TNT broadcasts, the Middle of the Fourth Quarter Thread.
"Marcus" Webster...
Yea. This TNT crew isn’t getting every Blazer’s name right but they certainly have the gift of gab…
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
He's the worst.
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
he's turrible kenny
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
he's turrible kenny
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
In good news: Amar'e and Oden had the same surgery.
Amar’e looks ok!
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:05 PM PST reply actions
i think we found someone roy can play with
Momma.....der go dat man
Roy is a sweet point 2 guard
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
bayless is the new starter i think
Momma.....der go dat man
YES! why not?
he can play 36 minutes a game.
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Don't tease
We don’t have the coach to make that decision, but Oh Man, I hope.
I hope.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
Bayless is a bust?
LOL @ you
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
We just found ourselves a guard of the future next to Roy
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
His shot isn't a picture of beauty but
neither was Clyde’s…
the Blazers are playing sweet D and rebounding this quarter too.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
this game shows what has been missing for bayless to be successful: Confidence.
Not self confidence. Not like Martell.
Not from the crowd/media. Not like Oden.
He just needed the confidence of his coach and Roy and lo and behold impossible is nothing.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
I agree
I don’t think he was quite ready for this last year though
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
yeah. for sure, but its just that people were complaining about his style not mixing with roy-its bout roy trusting him and letting him create/setting him up to finish.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
He couldn't shoot last year
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
He's been there the whole time,
just waiting to grow up a little;
Maybe its confidence, his or coach per nima,
and,
finding a good stroke and consistent shot from range;
playing D with court awareness enough to switch and take charges;
showing that he can make smart and accurate passes;
and using his leaping advantage for rebounding.
In other words, lots of serious and hard work.
Great night for Bayless.
by Sashland on Dec 17, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Heiku very much;
May I quote you?
‘Signature Happens’
That was like a poem
It was beautiful, man.
#52 by Mortimer on Dec 17, 2009 10:35 PM PST
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hahahaha.
ya got me:)
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
No. Reggie. You don't foul.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
YAA
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
woot great inbounds defense!!
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
lol look at j bay
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
WOOOOO
J Bay and B Roy RUN THIS TOWN
Brandon Roy - The Savior Of Portland Basketball
by rise_stand_resist on Dec 17, 2009 10:28 PM PST reply actions
Oh ya, it's a great day to be a Blazer fan!
OMG I just jizzed in my France
One word: RAWR!
Props to Marty as well. He was huge in the 4th rebounding, and hustling.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
ABSOLUTELY
Blakey played Nash tough too.
I loved seeing Martell taking over the boards though. STUDLY.
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Over last 4 minutes, yeah...
He got picked off screens too much, though. I know that for the first 3 quarter, we were switching by design. (why?) But we played them straight in the 4th and Blake still got picked off too many times.
Still, he did hit some 3’s out there.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
The thing I like most about Webster is that he always puts in 100%, he really plays with heart
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter," Fernandez said. "He's defense. He's passes. He's assists."
true... on offense he's just got to play loose
He tends to play with even more energy and heart when he’s contributed on offense (like 90% of basketball players in the universe).
THIS JUST IN: JERRYD SMILES FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
I noticed that
I wondered who we traded for who was being interviewed.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
If Bayless can continue to score efficiently, it doens't matter that he's not a PG.
Needs to improve his D, but so does the rest of our team.
#52
If Nic is healthy, Bayless and Roy is a strong lineup. So is Rudy. Move Blake for a backup big. Kaythanksbye.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
blake and travis for a backup big once we showcase outlaw a bit more
by tevisthe4th on Dec 17, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Outlaw is always going to be a Trail Blazer
end discussion.
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
I dont mind that, he is an awesome guy to have come off the bench
but we will have a SF glut again and we may need to get another legit big someday.
by tevisthe4th on Dec 17, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yes please.
Apparently this Bayless guy is pretty decent after all. I liked Barkley’s post-game comments.
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
I have been preaching this since summer.
I’m with you man. Its a movement.
If three people, if just three people walk in to KP’s office humming a bar of Alice’s Resturaunt, while they will think its a movement……
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
If AK said to jump off a cliff
Would you join me in doing so?
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
I'd act like I would
then holler “psyche” as I watched him fall
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
Bayless/Roy tagteam finally panning out.
In Bayless I trust.
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Both can drive and finish.
That’s a deadly backcourt.
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, "finally" as in only the second or third time they have been on the floor together
Chuck Barkley can be an annoying windbag, but sometimes he is the guy who is willing to state the truth.
“That kid can only get 10 minutes a game that’s RIDICULOUS.”
“It took a year and a half for this kid to get a chance??” Shakes head.
You tell’m Chuck.
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
first off - wow
second I have been working with swedish engineers and we have created a jbay repay machine…basically we will get all the j-bay haters in a line and this machine will slap them all in a row larry-curly and moe style…and their debt will be repaid.
#52. Get well soon.
by Eat Politicians on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 PM PST reply actions
most exciting, for sure
because Bayless’ development is one of the few things very positive that could come from this season. Bayless breaking out would be huge for this team.
#52
Jerryd, I apologize for ever doubting
heckuva game tonight. Simply no complaints.
Marty, I never forgot about you. Well done.
#52
by Royster on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Well, one complaint
I’d like to see fewer deep pull ups in the firs half, but if he’s going to make them, why the heck not?
#52
God I love this!
Bayless is a god. Give him a chance to play….what does he do? He makes the suns his…he played very well.
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
of course..if Pritchard
wants to trade Bayless…his stock is about as high as it could be after national TV coverage.
I curse you. I curse your parents. I smite thee.
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
He outscored Roy by a basket didn't he?
Great game for Bayless. I really needed this as a fan as well
It's Brandon Roy's world and we're only renting space We don’t like him—we’re only on his side so he doesn’t dunk on us in front of our co-workers, wives, girlfriends, mistresses and children.
-Correction It’s B Rex’s world and Brandon’s just keeping it warm until The Coming
by OhOhOden
by SandyTrailBlazer on Dec 17, 2009 10:31 PM PST reply actions
Martell made some big plays as well
OMG I just jizzed in my France
He's doing the little things since his shot is still not really falling. Which is good.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Yeah, I think he's shedding his image
Which has been: Just a pure shooter and nothing more… who doesnt shoot all that great. He has really developed in so many areas of his game, especially rebounding. He’s still a pretty decent shooter, and I think with consistent time he can develop into a good, solid player. Not to forget, he’s only 22.
I agree with you all, and have for a while
I think he is a keeper for our team.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
YES
Marty was active. His block on Amar’e was sweet. He had that huge rebound and the tip in on the free throw. He got all the hustle plays.
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Not a one-dimensional player
at least not tonight. Hopefully this gets him going too, and in an easier to swallow way, since Bayless has the kleig lights on him tonight. – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
Yes, Chuck ripping Blazers for not playing Bayless earlier
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
It was Miller we sat.
Blake stayed in the game.
In Bayless I trust.
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i don't think he had dre in mind.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Mind reading?
In Bayless I trust.
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Mind reading Chuck
Is hardly Rocket Surgery
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
It's my new favorite mixed-up saying
After “Does the Pope (defecate) in the woods?” became passe.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 18, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Chuck got it right (actually I don't think it was very subtle). Maybe now Nate will figure it out.
How the heck did Blake get 38 minutes.
Does he have porno tapes of Nate or something? In the words of Chuck, “RIDICULOUS.”
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
& he is right to do so.
In Bayless I trust.
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Nate's sub pattern's turrible kenny.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
shuddup ernie
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Do Reggie and Cheryl room together on the road?
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
by bow4meow on Dec 17, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
they're married...got the same last name
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 17, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
It's about time somebody ripped them
Nate has had the worst substitution patterns known to man in the last few years
by adaoh on Dec 17, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
What kind of rotation makes a sub of a starter 3 minutes in? How do you develop a rhythm?
by The Natural ala Mode on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
I love how Bayless wants the ball in clutch moments
not many guys genuinely want it and are ready to fire away
Wouldn't mind if Bayless was starting. Or at least playing.
by collectiveshane on Dec 17, 2009 10:31 PM PST reply actions
I love Barkley, lol
“What is remarkable is that Bayless can’t get playing time in Portland. He’s better than some of the guys they’re playing, let’s not kid ourselves.”
Thank you
He's going to get an angry letter from Steve's dad
Always supporting Greg Oden.
by blazeraddict on Dec 17, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Nate.
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
OMG You made me spew my celebratory adult beverage.
One of the best comments of the year. Rec’d
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
I think Blake's dad bought our jerseys or something
So the coaches feel forced to play him so much.
#52
How many Bayless and Millers jerseys did he buy?
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
i think he meant
he bought the jerseys for the team itself (like a father might for his son’s grade school team)
Kenny and Barkley showing Bayless some love
and pretty much poo pooing on Blake
Always supporting Greg Oden.
something to hope for
One might even say it’s a no brainer at this point.
Miller and/or Blake will still be useful but Rex needs to get most of the time, eh?
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
who's this Bayless guy?
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
I think we found him on a trip to Indiana
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Jersey last year
His PREVIOUS career high.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
last year after the Jersey game
someone did the Rex on the boat pic… can anybody bring that up? I forget who did it
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
look in the fanshots
someone asked “how did bayless get t-rex” pic and they put the boat pic in there too.
WE WANT T-SHIRTS!!!
by nateinaloha on Dec 17, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
B-Roy and Bayless
The fourth quarter duo of awesomeness.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
and hopefully
the 1st quarter too…
SOON
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
I think he's better coming off the bench
Kind of like Rudy.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
How is that?
He has never really started so we aren’t sure if he would dominate throughout…yet.
by The Natural ala Mode on Dec 17, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Props to Martell too
The HUGE tip in and the last rebound.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yes, Marty needs to play. What the heck was the deal with Nate subbing in Blake for Martell 5 minutes into the game....
Totally disrupted the defense. Nate’s Stevophilia knows no bounds.
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
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#52
What's up with you?
Oh yeah JERYDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Dec 17, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
Decorum Ladies
Act like you’ve been there before.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
They're never going to buy the cow...
etc etc etc
Stay in school
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
I've tried that approach.
I yelled that at the top of my lungs to the point of making myself hoarse at about a dozen games last year.
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
FWIW
I would have fouled on that last play. No timeouts left for Phoenix, even if they make two its basically impossible for them to tie us.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
And as we had seen earlier
Steve Nash is $ late. Great D by LA though.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
yeah, it was a great contest by LA
but if you foul there, you make them hit 2 FTs and then also score again— from the other end— with just a couple seconds left.
#52
Or try to intentionally miss the second
ANd tip it to themselves, which works approximately 1% of the time.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
yea unless Nash gets the ref to call the foul during a "3 point attempt"
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
That's what I'm scared of
A veteran player throwing up a shot attempt and earning 3 free throws on a move like that.
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter," Fernandez said. "He's defense. He's passes. He's assists."
Portland played it correctly
end discussion.
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
Nash is such a heady player
I think it is likely too risky with him.
An extremely aware player, who is an awesome shooter… it could very well work to foul him right off, but I just don’t trust it with Nash.
#52
I hear ya. I would foul him if he catches it with his back to the hoop, otherwise maybe not.
Maybe Nate feels like its too fine a line, which I guess I would understand. The Blazers got a good contest on the shot, so its hard to be too upset.
#52
It's equal parts, me no trust Nash to NOT be smart there
And me no trust whoever we got doing the fouling to do it 100% correctly.
VERY fine line, tonight giving a strong challenge was the right call, and I think it usually is.
#52
I still laugh
at posters here who insisted that they’d never want Nash here because he doesn’t fit or play defense or something. He’s one of the few guys in the league that still terrifies me even taking an off-balance horrible three to tie it.
#52
He would have been better than Andre Miller at least.
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
i was pushing hard for him last summer
he would have helped us tremendously
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
agree
ESPECIALLY after Frye caught the ball, held it on his hip and telegraphed that he was going to hand it off to Nash. Very very little risk in fouling when he did that. no way he could turn that into a shot attempt
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
You guys are right, it makes sense
Just hard to trust us to make the read correctly, and to know that Frye was going to be in that position with his back to the basket.
You gotta either decide to trust our players to make the correct read and foul nicely (I don’t), or play it straight up and tough.
#52
i can't fault them for playing it straight
the bigger sin was on the previous Suns possession (up for with 8 seconds left) and is something we always do late – let the other team (in this case Nash), walk right in for not only an uncontested layup, but one which only took four seconds to occur. Why do we do this over and over again?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
we were frustrated that Joel wasn’t in the game to protect the rim there. Lo and behold, they attack the basket.
hire tim grover
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 18, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, you have to go with defensive subs there. bad coaching
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
It's a lil' early to proclaim Bayless a great PG of his era
But I love the positive confidence in the kid!
#52
You mean that Patty Mills dude?
You idiots, he’s been injured.
LOL, GO TO THE STORE AND BY THE BOARD GAME CLUE, FELLAS.
#52
Roy is the real 4th point guard in the 4th though.
we all saw that coming. we thought it might pan out but with Bayless out there and Blake MUCH BETTER from outside, there’s just no room for Andre…
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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Trade Blake!
Bayless/Dre PG combo…
#52
by Mortimer on Dec 17, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
In such a high-scoring game
Miller was going to be last.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
why not come
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Not a scorer I assume
Blake actually had a good game, 4/7 from the field, only 1 turnover, 3 boards and 2 dimes.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
We know Miller is great at getting called for charges on fast breaks...
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter," Fernandez said. "He's defense. He's passes. He's assists."
Bayless elevated his game is all!
Miller has been a great scorer in the past.
His up and down play makes this all tougher though.
Thank goodness Bayless is proving himself… that is absolutely the best way to get minutes. Nothing handed to him, and he is earning it. Awesome.
#52
He has earned it almost every game this season
Nate elevated his minutes and his role. Bayless has been scoring with incredible efficiency all season.
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
How the heck did Blake end up with 37 minutes?
I don’t think I noticed him for more than 20.
#52
He was on the entire fourth
Basically.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Which also baffled me?
I kept trying to figure out how, despite having Martell on and Bayless both on and having huge quarters, we still felt the need to have Blake out there.
#52
We were losing
I assume, and until Bayless can prove he can hit the 3 consistently (tonight doesn’t count YET), you can’t take a shooter out until Rudy comes back.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
We'd previously played with just Blake out there spacing the floor
alongside Miller and Roy. Webster being on fulfilled that role tonight, Bayless hitting was just bonus.
#52
Nate subbed in Steve 5 minutes into the game....
…..and totally disrupted the defense by causing Roy to move over on Hill.
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
I just meant he is pale :-(
He just needs a little sunshine. SO HE SHOULD GO TO MIAMI! That’s the rumor!!!!
No words.
#52
Simple...he came in at the 8 minute mark in both 1st and 3rd quarter...
which I hate..trust Marty for a bit, Nate.
Then he played all of the 4th.
Just because Blake is out of the starting lineup, it doesn’t mean Nate won’t give him a ton of minutes. Nate is nothing if not predictable.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Marty did finally get some 4th quarter burn
and killed it, so maybe Nate will finally start to realize it’s okay to have someone other than Blake on the floor to space the floor late.
#52
Nate subbed in Steve at the 7:00 mark of the first quarter
and the Suns immediately turned a 5 point Portland lead into a 5 point deficit in under three minutes.
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
...and defense.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Do remember Dre caught an elbow to the dome
Might of skewed his minutes a lil…
No... No... No... oh, nice Travis
by DribbleDriveDish on Dec 17, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Miller had two really bad passes in the 3rd
one he telegraphed for Hill to steal on the wing
the other he tried to squeeze to Roy in the paint
(go grab some bench, ’Dre)
then Rex grabbed ahold of the game and didn’t give Nate an excuse to take him out
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I might start calling Bayless "mini-Wallace"
He rebounds on defense, scores inside, draws fouls, hits big-time shots, and at least tries to play perimeter defense.
My favorite scene of the night might have been him hitting that corner 3 and then hugging Roy, and how he tried to box out Amare quite ably on an outside shot (that went in, so it didn’t result in anything).
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Low strong center of gravity
He can box someone out, though rebounding has never been a strength of his before…
#52
Yeah what was the hugging all about?
Still time left.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Dec 17, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Or mini Bonzi ?
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
nah..
but I might name my next cat Rex
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
had a neighbor with a dog named Rex when I was a kid...
I don’t think they let him roam free …..
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Thank you Bayless
For continuing to make the Blazers coaching staff look dumb for not playing you sooner!!!…..Anybody else feeling the 3 guard rotation of Bayless, Roy, and Rudy like I’ve been calling for for an eternity???
against the Suns? YES
against Denver or LA—-OH PLEASE GOD NO
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
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Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
by Norsktroll on Dec 17, 2009 10:38 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
HIS year to date stats have doubled in the last two games?
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
I wonder if the Suns passed on him
Also, he’s a Phoenix kid.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I think they know each other from Arizona
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
"Ya didn't plan for me now, did ya?"
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
I am guessing gentry yelled when he shot it. and Baybay was telling him nice try.
just a guess though.
you are nuts, sir
-100
Brandon Roy - The Savior Of Portland Basketball
by rise_stand_resist on Dec 17, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
doooooooooood
I think sumbuddy spiked your blunt again…
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
very interesting lineup
Can Martell do what he did tonight from the 3 position rather than the 4?
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
the only thingi interesting about it is it shows some mental flexibility by our coach. some adjusting to matchups and some adjusting to heat checks.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
In my opinion
With rotations at least, Nate slowly but eventually comes to the “right” rotation. Just takes long sometimes.
Playing Bayless near 30 minutes was the right call, finally.
#52
How about playing Blake 38? Was that the right call?
by upper left corner on Dec 17, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
Of course not
I said, usually “eventually”.
Dre makes it tough by not playing as good as he should, though.
#52
I actually agree with your general observation
But Nate’s Stevophilia seems to be chronic, acute, and resistant to treatment.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 1:15 AM PST up reply actions
keep in mind that phx doesn't have a true C. you could probably even get away with roy guarding frye with no problem/mismatch issues
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
joel wasn't suited for this game
no inside guy to bang with — amare could pull him out of there and negate his defense.
u kidding? joel was huge this game. the boards and blocks were huge, even if he is a huge negative on offense.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
the only guy who could come close to handling Amare
I liked it that they doubled him at the end of the game – LMA needed the help.
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
i agree
He did great in the first three quarters. But in the end, we were able to survive without him on defense, which is extremely rare. He is normally absolutely indispensable because LaMarcus is not a 5.
On further thought, this is probably because Amare was dog tired at the end.
yeah, wasn't really a Joel game tonight
although, some underrated props need to go out to LA for playing Amare solid in the 4th. A lot was a team effort, but Lamarcus showed up when it counted on D tonight.
#52
amare was owning for a lot of the 4th...
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Maybe early
but it was Amare missing like 5 out of 6 shots that let us go on our run and he had to work for all of them. When it counted, we stopped him.
Nash, on the other hand…
#52
Webster has been guilty of some incredibly athletic plays
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
His tip dunk buzzer beater
still tops the one tonight for me, if only for the perfect timing.
#52
it was the Rex-Blake-Roy-Marty-LMA lineup that really got it going late.
35-21…I’d say they got it going
Doing it against Sac-town is one thing, doing it against PHX is something else
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
it's the SUNS!
come on. that wouldn’t work against an upper echelon team with rebounding.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
You say that
like they’re NY or something…plus considering how banged up we are, I’d say this was really impressive.
Technically
Phoenix has been a worse defensive team than the Knicks this year. As much as we needed Bayless, Roy and Marty tonight, we couldn’t have done it without locking down on D late.
#52
true...
I found that odd… and I’m going to chalk it up to luck… it was really about the guards getting hot (or lucky) from distance.
And Martell, Bayless, were able to rebound
As long as we got people who can rebound, it can work. Usually, without Joel, we don’t rebound.
#52
true. match-ups tonight helped that unit work
but three shooting was pretty absurd over that stretch.
and
with Blake out on the floor
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
in response to
worth pointing out that the decisive run came with Joel on the bench.
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I don't mind Miller starting, as long as Bayless sees at least 20 mpg.
Its Blake playing 38 and Miller just 17 that bugs me.
#52
Yeah normally Miller will continue to round into form, so he may be a good starter
And Bayless spending a season getting good minutes off the bench is a huge step.
Yeah, Bayless will also have some rough nights
We have to expect it and prepare for it.
Miller/Bayless PG combo is potentially an extremely good combo.
#52
It was my understanding
That miller was hurt ? Or
was he okay afterall?! Could this have something to do with the egregious minute disparity between him and “mr clutch” Steve Blake ?
S
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2009 10:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Status of Miller unknown, but he played after he took a shot to the head
Looked like he got his bell rung.
Nate always has some excuse to not play Miller late
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
I'd still rather keep Miller starting
to be honest, who knows long term, but tonight Bayless really looked to thrive in more of a JET type role, being able to come in and be the offense while he was in. I’m not sure how well that’s going to work in the near term as long as we’re going to open trying to run everything through :LaMarcus.
#52
Anyone else notice martell played pF down the stretch?
And killed the Suns are the boards? How does a supposedly legit team let that happen? Wouldn’t work against any other playoff team…
Amare was really tired late
He just short-armed several shots and was clealry out of it.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Rebounding is about desire.
Ask the guys in Houston.
Martell has good leaping ability, and wanted it more.
glad bayless hopefully won't beat himself up for missing that one FT.
definitely won that game for us!
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 17, 2009 10:40 PM PST reply actions
He totally low-keyed the interview
He basically said, “yay, the win’s the thing, I’m glad I was able to help.”
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I like how he started the interview
“both teams played hard.” Classy.
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
Yeah...he dropped a huge F-bomb when he missed that FT
Gotta love that fire.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
I was worried he lost his focus
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
its abput freaking time!!!!!
Brandon Roy - The Savior Of Portland Basketball
by rise_stand_resist on Dec 17, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
ITS ABOUT FREAKING TIME IN THE HOUSE
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
1 year late, but I hope the time has finally come.
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
While I wish he had more time last year
I truly, honestly, 100% prefer it this way.
Him TAKING those minutes away, really earning it.
Much better that way.
#52
I do like that he's earned it now.
I still think it would have been more forward-thinking to get him 15 min a game last season even with struggles, but it won’t hurt much if Nate sticks with him from now on.
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
Earned is always better and more rewarding than given.
I hope Bayless can keep it up, would really provide a spark we weren’t relying on, in a year where all of our sparks have been extinguished.
#52
And who knows
How hard he works on his J in the off season if he’s getting major burn (to quote a certain Ben) in his rookie season.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
He hit a lot of jumpers in college at a decent clip.
I’m sure he’s worked on it a ton, but I don’t think he was nearly as bad as he looked last year in the extremely limited time he was given.
But…all water under the bridge now if he’s a 20 min a game guy from here on out!
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
They had changed his stroke
Makes sense he’d struggle.
The shot looks a lot better this year, and I agree… more time will make the shot more consistent.
#52
I'll admit, I may have been
and may continue to be a little overly skeptical of Bayless the past year and a half, but to think that he would have been nailing pull up 20 footers and corner threes if only he got some burn last year is a bit of a stretch.
He’s earning it now, though, and that’s what matters.
#52
his form is really solid this year.
hire tim grover
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
I was at the game. Fun time.
hire tim grover
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 17, 2009 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
seeing my guy take over one of the few games I happen to attend?
It was great :)
hire tim grover
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 18, 2009 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
are you implying that it isn’t the current plan already?
hire tim grover
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 18, 2009 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
If Bayless keeps scoring at a 62% TS mark… man.
hire tim grover
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 18, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
You mean the big 2
featuring LaMarcus Aldridge and introducing Jerryd Bayless?
#52
How are you going to sell out
Pendy and Mills there.
If anything the big 3 shoudl look like: Pendergraph, Mills, Tolliver.
#52
bring back Shav, add him in.
hire tim grover
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 18, 2009 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
You act like you can just add in a fun player like Shav and it all works out for the best
Roster balance and on-court chemistry is more important than Trader Bob-esque roster compilations, friend.
#52
Have to cut Roy to open up the roster spot
but I’m cool with that. It’s not show friends, it’s show business.
#52
The comeback tonight was mostly due to great defense late
Don’t know where it came from, but I have my suspicions—Bayless seemed to really change the entire game in every facet when he got it going.
I don’t know, but this game could be one that is a turning point this season, at least I hope so.
But did Nate notice it too or not?
Nate will make up some excuse on why Blake is still his boy and that Bayless is still not consistent.
it's a systemic thing with the suns
They can get out and run when it’s all loosy goosy in the early quarters, but when it gets tight and everything is pressurized in the late fourth, let’s just say Jared Dudley and Channing Frye aren’t quite as confident stepping into the wing treys. Also, teams can crank up the defense a little and shut ’em down. Orlando almost stole their game last week after being down HUGE in the first half.
This is dumb
Twitter isn’t working
bayless fan.boys unite!
For one day rip city sleeps with a smile … 2 wins in a row seem like a miracle : I rejoice and thank the gods
S
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2009 10:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Honestly your extreme elation is a bit concerning .. Too high a peak
if u know what im sayin’ ;)
Jkjk i 2 nd that “bayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyylessssssss”
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2009 10:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Uncle Morty's brain
Has left the building
Good night everyone!
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
In celebration of Rex's awesomeness
I’ll just agree with you tonight.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
by dan_the_man on Dec 17, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
Twitter got hacked...
We’ve noticed that Twitter has been down for the past few hours, but now TechCrunch is reporting that the site has been hacked by a group calling themselves the “Iranian Cyber Army.”
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter," Fernandez said. "He's defense. He's passes. He's assists."
Unless it comes to tablet computers like the CrunchPad
ZING
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Techcrunch founder wanted to develop a tablet PC and got into an ugly legal battle with his Indian development parter over who invented and did what before the project went into a tailspin and crashed. Here’s his side, the opinion of his partner is very different. And time is of the essence since Apple will likely kill the market next year.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/30/crunchpad-end/
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
It was actually the Phoenix Suns fans that hacked twitter
They couldn’t hack the comments any more!
"You've been warned...!"
A Stern Warning : http://www.asternwarning.com
they're more dangerous
than the Asian Dawn! And totally more beastly than the members of Liberte de Quebec!
Did you notice that Roy had some room to work in the 4th?
Coincidence that bayless was in the game? Methinks not.
#52
by blazermaniac32 on Dec 17, 2009 10:42 PM PST reply actions
Without an "H"
It’s just another word for “Peeeeeeeee”
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
I believe again
We are dangerous, we are strong, WE ARE PORTLAND AND WE DO NOT GO DOWN EASILY!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
MAkes me wonder what could of happened
If bayless had more mins last year
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
His outside shot is so much more consistent
Than it was last year. That’s the biggest difference.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Exactly
He did not shoot well in general last year. 36.5% FG, 25.9% 3FG. Only his FT % @ 80.6% was good.
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
makes me wonder what could have happened
if we had a full roster tonight-especially oden.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Honestly
If Oden’s there, he doesn’t have the space to drive.
Oden is going to be a weak side rebounder and dunker when his man leaves to challenge Roy and Bayless. At least for the next few seasons.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
I don't agree with the space to drive thang
If anything, having Joel in there makes it tougher because his man doesn’t have to guard him and is almost always free to double the driver when they come down the lane.
#52
Agreed, never understood this either
Even if Joel is sets up a few feet farther away, it’s not like he’s pulling his man out of the middle
.
#52
That's exactly it
Joel is always on the weak side. Oden is always posting up strong side, where his man can stop the drive. It’s tough for Joel’s man to get across the lane to the driver.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
Please God, tell me you've been drinking
Lots.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
I don't really drink :-(
But seriously, Oden isn’t camped on the strong side every play, it’s as much LMA as him, and Joel and LMA are not totally out of the play on either side.
I think the Oden-clogs-the-lane was an excuse because Roy wasn’t getting good separation from his defender most of this season. And, was rusty.
#52
iso post is bad offense
especially for the Blazers. Takes them too much time to feed the post; takes too much time for the post to make his move once he gets the ball.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 17, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
maybe...
Although his game looks much much improved from last year. He looked lost last year. This year he’s played well in spot minutes and earned the burn.
No don't wonder present and future only
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2009 10:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Makes me wonder what'll happen this year if we give him playing time
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter," Fernandez said. "He's defense. He's passes. He's assists."
Early in the third I thought the Blazers were done
because Roy was not moving well… but to his credit, Roy had a bunch of hustle plays tonight. I love seeing that from him. I’d like to see it every night (not just when TNT is doing the game).
We've seen it the last two games
But Phoenix is MUCH better than Sacto so this means more.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
yeah, he played a great 4th.
Need to see that from him more consistently.
Really bad first 3 quarters from Roy and Aldridge. Very frustrating Aldridge should be able to score efficiently against Frye/Amare.
#52
I don't think it hurt Bayless was out there pushing it.
BROY needs someone to motivate him to move, whether it be to outshine or win a game with.
Land Rondo.
"He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!" Dave on Greg Oden
by loyal_blazer on Dec 17, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Steve ability to hit the 3 tonight was huge.
hopefully he can keep that up. Just the threat of the 3 really opens it up for Roy and His Nayness to go work. I am guessing that is one of the major reasons for Andre seeing such little playing time tonight.
More than anything
He needs to be confident he can hit it. Don’t pass up your shot Steve.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
worse thing to see from steve
passing up an in rhythm three off a kick out, then dribbling around lost for 12 seconds. I wonder if synergy sports could calculate the effect on offensive production for the Blazers of Blake passing up a jump shot…
I tweeted "Blake fans will say
Either I’m psychic
or all Steve Blake
fan.boys r terribly
predictable.
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2009 10:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
"Blake fans will say BUt BUt he hit that 3 late down the stretch of the suns game!!!"
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2009 10:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I kno right ? Sighhh.. Stupid Iphone ruined my attempt to call out the Blake fan.boys
s
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think the pressure is off Steve coming in off the bench
even if it is only 3.5 minutes into the game
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
we need a guy like frye on our team
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
He lives here in the offseason
Isn’t that enough for YOU PEOPLE??
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Dec 17, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Great game, great win for the Trailblazers!
Now will all you guys who were so negative when I pointed out that Portland still had a lot of talent relent and see that this team can still make some real noise?
Glad to see Bayless get out of purgatory, or get the training wheels off, or whatever it was that kept him chained to the bench.
We could win a series
Depending on the matchup.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Maybe the Suns but that's all I see
Having Nic and Rudy back would give us some much needed depth, and our lack of frontcourt depth will be offset by Phoenix’s lack of size
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe
We’ve been playing so inconsistent and weak, despite the last 2 wins, with only 1 center and weak defense overall, I don’t see us winning 1. I don’t know what matchup I like us in.
This year.
I feel very confident that with a healthy Oden and Friends, we are very very good.
#52
We'll find out soon enough
how the Blazers do against the elite on the road.
They’ve still got talent like a typical club, but they have four quality NBA players sitting and how well we do is going to depend on their return quality and meshing with the team again. That’s a lot of stuff to happen late season and be tuned up for the playoffs.
That said, I’m not caring much about position in standings since I think it would be great to face LA in the first round and give them hell.
And, the injuries give other players a chance to develop and be available for big games.
May not go over big, but if Nate has helped prepare Bayless to be able to do what he did tonight, I don’t have a problem with his program. Nice selection, player development, and utilization.
I don't see it.
We’re not getting a top 4 seed. The only chance would be to finish 5th and draw 4th seeded Phoenix. No way we knock off LAL, Den, DAL, who are a near lock to be the top 3.
#52
Don't overestimate Denver
Their schedule has been even easier than Portland’s thus far into the season. And Denver is very vulnerable on the road.
Founder of the "Crash Batumcoot" Movement.
There are two teams who don't have to say
“depending on the matchup” in the whole NBA. It’s not the worst thing you can say.
Well, it's all about degrees
we’re going to pull out some wins like this throughout the year (although as Charles noted, the Suns are like 2-6 against div leaders), but in terms of being able to go into games against top teams and expect to win or have a good shot at winning, inuries have somewhat killed that dream.
It’s really not that different from your rockets. With a healthy Yao, you could be thinking about a potential title. Now, you guys are a team that’s a tough out and will beat some good teams, but isn’t a realistic threat to win more than a playoff series, no offense.
#52
None taken.
Yao is the key to the current team. I don’t see this squad as a title contender, unless we somehow get a return to TMac of 04-05.
But by making noise I guess I mean, say making it to the WCF. I think getting hurt guys back, Portland can do that.
I really don't see a way that we could
win a playoff series against a healthy nuggets, Lakers or Mavs team as a lower seed right now. If we can sneak into that 5th seed, I could see us doing something like Atlanta and making the 2nd round, but I think that’s our ceiling, which is a big let down from a potential finals team (a little wishful thinking, admittedly).
#52
we'd have everyone but Greg
and basically Greg was nothing more than 6 fouls in last year’s playoffs, so I think we’d be better than last year. The trick will be making it to the playoffs at all. I’m rooting for a San Antonio matchup
#52
If Roy returns to something close to how he played last season
And extends it into the playoffs, maybe…
But, it requires Batum being good by playoff time, LMA playing better as well, our PGs improving consistently, and lotsa other ifs.
#52
I just wouldn't count on it or hope for it
Making it to the playoffs with the team so depleted, and Roy being so off, would be a big achievement for this roster.
Anything further, we need Oden and Roy playing well.
#52
Right, but our injuries have basically taken us out of
firm members of that top tier of WC contenders and thrown us in with the rest of the riff raff like Phoenix, Houston, NO, Utah, etc. I’d put us at even money against of those teams in a playoff series, but huge dogs against any of the three I originally mentioned.
Don’t forget we still needed to come back from 13 down in the 4th at home to beat Phoenix.
#52
B-Rex breakout 2.0: Return of the Rex
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
by Norsktroll on Dec 17, 2009 10:48 PM PST reply actions 14 recs
thanks Norsktroll
did you do the first one?
"In order to keep a true perspective of one's importance, everyone should have a dog that will worship him and a cat that will ignore him."
Yes
(And please no religious commentary intended. It’s just a joke on why the T-Rex didn’t survive.)
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
HAHAHAHHAH
Fantastic. I have a reason to look forward to the rest of the season,
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
o, no!
I’ve already got that tune stuck in my head. Merry Christmas, from Bayless. Merry Christmas, from Bayless…. arrrgh!
I hate all christmas music
Bahhumbug
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
Rex Post Facto
Ha! I had that Merry Christmas line in the 4th quarter thread. If we all keep singing it, it’ll be stuck in all of our heads. Forever!!
Stickiest jingle of all time…..
Pardon me, I’ve got to go do some victory shopping at Bayless Shoe Source.
by HowlinJoeWolf on Dec 17, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
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by Starvin' Marvin on Dec 17, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
this will be super green by the end of the night.
#52
by greatestfall on Dec 17, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
i do wonder if he knows about his nickname.
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 17, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
We really need to trade Blake when Rudy comes back..
I’ll be going nuts if Blake gets his 36 mpg while Bayless once again rides the pine.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Yeah...but between trading Blake and firing Nate
which is more probable?
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Blake remains a better fit for this team
than Miller does, warts and all. Miller is also likely much more tradeable. We might actually get somebody useful for him.
If we trade Miller, ....
I care more about getting expiring contracts rather than usable players…
Why? If Joel opts, that means we have enough room for a max contract as long as salary cap stays around the same next year.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
...I don't think so.
Now that we’ve signed Roy and LMA to their deals, I think we’re over the cap for a long time. If anything, we should be trading OUR expirings to retain our ability to have a higher payroll.
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
Well, considering that I actually did the math...
If the cap stays at $57.7 million, if we trade Andre for expiring contracts and Joel opts out, our total committed salary can be as low as $41,323,259.00. Max contract will be $16,224,600 but our cap space is $16,376,741.00.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
This does involve waiving both Pendy and Mills, however
whose contracts are not guaranteed next year.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
You're right, technically.
Unfortunately, with all the players you’d have to dump, you’d be left with an 8-man roster, including your new max contract guy.
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, but I'd rather try to add a LeBron or Wade to this roster
Than go 12 deep.
Also, we can use our MLE next year. We can fill the rest using MLE and veteran’s minimum, which is allowed even if you are over the cap.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
So...
PG – Bayless
SG – Roy, Rudy
SF – LeBron, Martell
PF – LaMarcus, Dante
C – Greg
And the rest MLE and vet minimum guys? I really like the starting lineup, obviously, but I don’t see it as plausible at all, especially since Nate thought we needed an extra guy when we got down to 9.
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
You forgot Nic
That’s 9 deep, which is plenty good for NBA.
I’d go throw a 4 year deal at Joel starting at the MLE. If not, try to sign Collison and fill the rest with Vet. Min. guys and rookies.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
I'm all for it.
I just don’t see these things happening:
a) find someone to take Miller for expiring deals
b) have Joel reject the 7.5M option, but re-up for 5.5M per year
c) convince LeBron or Wade to come live in Portland
d) convince the coach that he’s ok going with Bayless and a scrub at the point
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
I admit, it's not a foolproof plan, but not improbable
a) it’d pretty much have to be a straight salary dump
b) My guess is that Joel will opt out anyway, due to likelihood of lockout in 2011 and this is likely Joel’s last big payday. it’s most likely Joel is gone.
c) While Lebron or Wade would be fantastic, practically any max guy in 2010 like Joe Johnson would still drastically improve this team. While only their own team can give the extra year, the current trend is for the max contract guys to sign for less years to pressure the organization into keeping the team good. Let’s say if you are LeBron…would you like your teammates to be over the hill Shaq and Mo Williams, or Roy, Aldridge, and Oden, given same yearly pay?
d) I am sure Nate is more than happy to run Blake at point for rest of the year
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
And, if I remember right, you can't use MLE if you're under the cap that season.
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
?
that is technically true, but we definitely won’t be under the cap if we signed a max contract guy in 2010. Plus, if we’re under the cap, we wouldn’t need to use the MLE anyway….so, I’m not really sure what you are arguing.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
By rules, you couldn't use the MLE until 2011 because they would be under the cap in the 2010 offseason.
by Free Bayless on Dec 17, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm..my understanding of the rules is that
1. you can’t use the MLE more than once per every two years
2. You have to be over the cap
It does leave us bit thin at C, but Bayless – Roy -max free agent – Aldridge is probably good enough even if Oden goes down and we throw in an NBDL center.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
I think J Bay has earned his permanent place
I think it’d be Rudy instead of Blake in that situation since both Bayless and Rudy can shoot 3s and drive to the hoop.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yeah most likely.
Although I’m still not entirely convinced of Bayless’ three ball. Much rather have him out there than Rudy though
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
I'm not as confident, given past history
and Blake is attached to the hip with Nate.
Better be safe than sorry. Plus, this team still needs a backup 5 for this season.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Honestly, the less Blake, the better for me
But Rudy might be a guy who really has to start worrying about his place if Bayless keeps it up. For all the people wanting Rudy to develop into a PG, I think it’s more likely to think of Bayless as a hybrid guy to fill that 1/2 role instead.
#52
Bayless smiled more after the game
than he has since he’s been in Portland. Great performance. I can’t help but wish our breakout shot in the arm wasn’t a point guard though….
I can’t stand Charles Barkley. He’s like the drunk know-it-all at the bar. His co-hosts lead broadcasters everywhere in uncomfortable chuckles. All of his comments about Bayless’ playing time rubbed me the wrong way. He didn’t deserve more playing time until this month. He was a mistake machine. Now he’s putting it together and it’s a beautiful thing (and has given me hope for the season).
Martell with several huge plays down the stretch was nearly as big. Man, it would great if we could count on him for consistent production.
Bayless was smiling all towards the end of the fourth quarter. Anyone know what he said to Alvin Gentry?
Bring the bling to Rip City, Natch'
Trade John Canzano!
Now how do you like them apples
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Dec 17, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, JayBay's interview was pretty funny.
He had a pretty goofy smile. You don’t see that much in the nba.
I really think it was from
Him imagining such a scenario in his head for his whole life, then it came true, and he was giggly in delight.
#52
TNT and Barkley suck
After a great win by the Blazers in which they showed poise and hustle, including a stellar performance by Bayless, all Barkley could do was criticize the Blazers for not playing him more. Martell had a great game, Aldridge played big, Roy was good, Pryzbilla dominated, yet he said nothing positive about the blazers. Somebody said, the Suns let one slip, how about the Blazers beat the Suns? Then after the game the majority of the highlights were of the Suns. the Blazers had plenty of great plays. TNT: you suck.
media don't like the blazers!
although barkley was so true about bayless not ever really playing.
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 17, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
You are mistaken, sir
This is probably going to tick at least a few people off, but some times you just gotta sy that the Emperor is bare a$$ nekid.
Bayless had a PER of over 15 during Blake’s injury last year. Then when Blake came back, Bayless got inconsistent garbage time minutes and DNP-CDs for ten games. Then he was given the back-up minutes for three games and then sent back to garbage time. Nate never showed any real confidence in Bayless last year and Bayless was clearly pressing too hard in limited minutes trying to impress.
None of us will ever know if Bayless would have done better given consistent minutes last season. We do know that Nate did absolutely nothing to smooth his transition to the pros.
Bayless has been consistent all this season. Look back through the game splits, you can count the number of games where he didn’t score and score efficiently on one hand.
A lot of the hold out doubters made up their minds last season and have refused to open their eyes to his obviously improved play this fall. It is bad enough that these folks were wrong. It is inexcusable to try to rewrite history to try to justify their mistaken assessments.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
That was truly awesome
Can we PLEASE make Bayless the starting PG?
by keepportlandstrange on Dec 17, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply actions
He could be more though
I am totally fine with 6th man till he earns, for sure, the starting spot.
#52
Agreed. Let’s not get carried away here. He’s not a point guard (yet), but he’s a crazy good blast of energy coming off the bench.
He has a higher Assist% and lower TO% than Blake.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
to be fair, the huge usage rate disparity is a reason for the AST%. TOV% is weighted by usage, though, and Jerryd has been very impressive there.
hire tim grover
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 18, 2009 12:15 AM PST up reply actions
Yup.
Been saying it forever. Jannero Pargo, Bobby Jackson, Vinny Johnson, Earl Boykins…on and on.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I'm talking about classic combo guard scoring role here Mort!
You fail!
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
We'll gladly trade you Pargo if you want him though.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 17, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmmmm
I trust blzrfan’s opinion, and he seems to be saying Bayless’ ceiling is Pargo…
So it would make sense that we trade Bayless for the guy we hope he can become, right?
#52
Done and done!
We’ll even throw in Brad Miller for Brandon Roy. A fair swap all the way around!
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 17, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
Bayless has far more ability to get to the foul line.
Its still early, but he’s scoring more efficiently this season than they could ever dream of.
#52
At leasy
Manu, Jason Terry, etc. Pargo, Boykins, and Jackson are crappy comparisons, none of them could got to the line and score as efficiently as Bayless.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Dec 17, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
Come on, he's more efficient than Manu now?
Jason Terry, et al. make sense, but Manu was a top 4 or 5 SG in the league for a solid 3 years.
#52
Bayless is #2 in the NBA among PGs in TS% and he is only 21.
After tonight he will be #4 in PER.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
Dude, ULC
I know you like Jerryd. But let’s just be rational here. I would no sooner say Jerryd’s better than Manu in his prime than I would say Kevin Martin’s been better than Kobe this year.
#52
Don't put words in my mouth. My point is not to say he is better than Manu in his prime...
My point is that you need to open your eyes and see what he has accomplished at this tender age with the very limited opportunities he has been given. He is improving rapidly. Who knows were he will end up?
My objection is that the same people who said he flat out sucked last year, now seem to be fighting a rear guard action to say that he will never be a PG or a starter. That is just plain stupid at this point in his career.
I cited his standing among his fellow NBA PGs to illustrate just how good and consistent he has been this season. People who compare him to mediocre back-up PGs should be spanked hard.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
Did I compare him to mediocre back-ups?
I meant that asserting Boykins et al as crappy comparisons makes sense and Manu didn’t. Saying that Manu’s better than him isn’t an insult anymore than saying Wade is better than Roy, or Dirk is better than LaMarcus.
I’ve never said I didn’t think Bayless had a chance to be good or that he’ll never be a starter, so those criticisms are off-base. Bayless did NOT play especially well last year, outside of about 3 games. That’s the facts, no revisionist history. I don’t know the reason why (pressing, rebuilt shot, who knows?), but does that really matter now? I’ve been pretty consistent here, as I said back in your post after the Wolves game:
If, over the course of the next couple weeks he continues to play well, I’ll adjust my stance accordingly, just like if we were still getting killed with Miller in the lineup in December I’d re-evaluate whether playing him more is the best option. It’s premature, in my eyes.
I don’t think I’ve ever stated that I think Jerryd couldn’t be good. There do happen to be more nuanced views out there than those that decided “BAYLESS: FUTURE ALL-NBA” or “BAYLESS, TINY BALL-HOG SG” after seeing him go through 4 layup lines during warmups of one game.
#52
Sorry for a cranky response
I think we are both trying to read and type quickly and leaped to conclusions about what the other was saying without really asking for clarification.
I’m probably remain more optimistic in my projection of his development than you, but that isn’t new. You are correct that your take has been more nuanced than the AKs of this site. I hate it when people ridicule me as a Fanboy when in fact I have said repeatedly that I think the odds of Bayless becoming a starting quality PG were somewhere between 50-65% (I also said that he had an 85% chance of becoming a solid scorer). I apologize if I oversimplified your views.
At a minimum, I think we can agree that it is going to be very interesting to watch Bayless’ development and particularly fun to watch him play with Roy.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 2:09 AM PST up reply actions
Manu’s greatness doesn’t need statistics, though he was crazy good there. He was just an assassin on the basketball court, one of the greatest clutch players I’ve ever seen.
hire tim grover
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 18, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Nate " we got to the free throw time 35 times"
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
or something like that..
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Roy and Bayless = 16-23 from the line
Phoenix was 16-22 as a team
that, and Portland’s 10-20 from behind the arc was…the ballgame
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
The hoopla over the performance from Bayless.
Not to take away from anything he did, but he did this against the Kings and Suns. Two teams with poor perimeter defense and no shot blocking. I’m glad to see him finally be used the way he was supposed to be used. Bayless is a scorer, that’s what he should be asked to do. A player like him is a sparkplug off the bench.
The coaching staff tried to turn him into Steve Blake. Now Bedge needs to figure out how to make the coaches use Oden properly and reduce Blake’s role on the team. We got to keep the pressure on the coaching staff.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
He drew several offensive fouls in clutch time there...
When nothing was going offensively, he was our knight in shining armor.
Bring the bling to Rip City, Natch'
Trade John Canzano!
well, right
Bayless is not going to average 24 points a game… but he can definitely provide some much needed scoring.
His floor vision is completely different from last year and much improved.
It’s true that he is not a natural pg, but it is clear to me that he is understanding rotations and where the open man will be when he draws the double. And quite honestly that is probably enough.
His medicore ball handling is his biggest flaw as a PG.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
High dribbles and looks down while he dribbles up the court.
I’m talking about how he reacts to ball pressure. He picks up his dribble too quick and his dribbles aren’t controlled.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
The fact that you don't find his dribble asthetically pleasing means nothing
The fact that he can dribble through traffic and get to the hoop and he can be out on the break in the open floor, and he still has the lowest TOV% of our five guards means a heck of a lot more.
Seriously, a lot of your complaints and observations come across as a rear guard action on behalf of the doubters. Of all that Bayless has achieved so far this season, by far the most impressive has been his consistent efficiency. Go check out the game splits. You can count the number of times he has not scored and scored efficiently on one hand.
He is a scoring PG a la Tony Parker. He is already nearly equal to Blake in Assist %. He is going to need a season or two to practice his decision making and distribution skills, but don’t bet against a kid with his physical skills, work ethic, and will to win.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 12:48 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry ulc, we disagree on this and it has nothing to do with asthetics
Bayless does not handle ball pressure well when he is pressed up the court. I’ve seen it many times in regular season games as well as the summer league. I don’t speak on behalf of any rear guard action, I speak with my own observations. So please don’t marginalize my opinion as if I’m doing it with an agenda.
I said nothing ill of Bayless’ efficiency this year as a scorer. In fact, I’ve been a proponent of Bayless to be used as a scorer.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
ball handling is quantitative though
and the stats say he is doing just fine.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
He has a lot more to show if he can run a team
Unlike last season, he has proven he is definitely an NBA talent.
I haven’t noticed him having as many problems dribbling under pressure, and I think I remember him handling the press well, but it obviously hasn’t been enough to know for sure.
I think he’s done it better than Blake has, with his speed.
While I have been goofy with my love of Bayless tonight, I’m glad he is simply playing as well as he was in limited minutes… but he’s got a lot more to show every night. I hope we stick with him through the mistakes he will undoubtedly make as well.
Mortimer
#52
Bayless hasn't been the guy bringing up the ball while being ball pressed.
When I watch the Blazers, I watch for specific things on the court. One of the biggest questions for Bayless is to be that guy who can take the pressure off Roy and handle the point guard duties. Part of that duty is dribbling against pressure and setting up the offense. Those aren’t his roles right now because he is usually on the court with Blake/Roy/Miller. The times he is bringing up the ball is when there is no pressure on him.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
They got him a dribbling coach this offseason
I think he has and will continue to improve in that regard. There is no doubt that he can handle the ball with both hands (unlike say Martell and Travis), dribble between his legs, has a quick first step (unlike Rudy), can change directions instantly, etc.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
I don't trust Blake to bring the ball up.
But I also don’t trust Bayless either.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I have nothing to support it with
But I feel like he has just generally been more comfortable with his dribble in every scenario… but, like with everything, more needs to be seen.
I will definitely watch it more closely now.
#52
I'll start focusing on his reaction to pressure,
and see if he does pick it up too soon,
but I’m thinking that he generally has good control of that ball
and he’s the one to dribble past the pressure to bring the ball up;
are you talking in the half court?
When he’s got free rein to drive he’s not giving up that dribble easy.
So I’m not recalling the problem and other folks say the numbers prefer him.
As to all the hating on Miller/Blake/Bayless [choose one, or more], Blazers will need them all this year.
They know it, Nate knows, KP knows it; don’t expect a trade.
KP thought they were deep this year… so he’s is not going to give up depth.
That was like a poem
It was beautiful, man.
#52 by Mortimer on Dec 17, 2009 10:35 PM PST
When I refer to medicore ball handling...
I say it in the context of a PG model. I’m not talking about catching a pass and taking the ball to the rim. I’m not talking about using a screen and dribbling towards the hoop. I’m talking about being force to turn his back near half-court protecting the ball while trying to initiate the offense. I’m talking about timidly dribbling up the court against a ball hawk. These are PG responsibilities that are necessary.
It is a weakness. Acknowledging a weakness doesn’t take away from Bayless as scorer or potential playmaker. To me, it demonstrates a unfinished equation. Whether Bayless can complete that equation is up in the air, I tend to have my doubts since ball handling is a skill not easily learned at his stage as a player. It’s a mechanic skill that is much harder to master than shooting a jumpshot.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I guess my point is that I think those who want to stick Bayless in a box and label him at 21
are being extremely hasty. If I were going to characterize his game at this point I would say he is a combo guard who is primarily a scorer, but who is rapidly learning to use his penetration skills to create opportunities for his teammates.
That basically says he isn’t ready to run the team by himself yet. But those who go further and say he is only a sixth man type who will never be a PG or a starter strike me as incredibly stupid. I have exactly the same reaction to all the folks who say Oden is a defensive center and will never be a consistent offensive threat, or the folks who characterize Batum as a defensive specialist.
These guys are 21 and 22 fricking year old. They each have a lot of physical tools and their games are undergoing a phase of rapid expansion. We don’t know where any of these guys will end up at age 25. If Bayless hasn’t learned to distribute the ball by age twenty five, then talk to me about Jason Terry. Until then, I think there is a lot of reason to believe that he can be more. Especially when paired with SGs like Brandon and Rudy who are good passers.
Sorry if I lumped you in with the doubters, that really isn’t fair and I hate it when people do that sort of thing to me. I respect your knowledge and your commenting skills.
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
We disagree on the trajectory
I don’t think it’s stupid to say if Bayless will never be a PG or will only be a sixth man. These are decisions GMs must make every year when they evaluate their roster. The Lakers made a good decision to give up on Javaris Crittenton as a PG in his rookie season. He certainly didn’t get the chance to prove himself with consistent minutes in his time in LA.
We are all making decisions on partial knowledge and forecast. Just because one of us does not share the same forecast in evaluating the trajectory of a young player doesn’t make it invalid or less informed. I think it’s great to debate it. I don’t see it as a open and shut case until the age of 25.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Yes, we do.
In my mind, the equation looks something like this
Outstanding physical skills + HoF Work Ethic + Brains + Burning desire to succeed =
High probability of success.
Does the fact that he is has the 2nd highest TS% and 4th highest PER of all the PGs in the league at the tender age of 21 mean nothing to you? You cite his high dribble, isn’t that something that can be fixed pretty easily?
Now if you said he didn’t have the size, or the speed, or the stroke, or the basic handle (like say Martell, or even Rudy), then I would understand you projecting a pretty low ceiling. I actually think Rudy will turn out to have the least long term impact of our four sophomores. He is the most skilled currently, but I see him as the closest to his ceiling and the most physically limited of the four.
On what factors do you base your projection of Bayless?
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 1:58 AM PST up reply actions
I agree that he needs to tighten up his handle a little
if he is to become the full time starter, because right now he seems to slightly struggle with full court pressure when he is bringing the ball up and also the double team up top in the half court.
Yup...I'm talking about ball pressure.
Any guy can dribble the ball up the court. Bayless struggles against ball pressure.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Stats don't mean jack in regards to ball handling duties.
Blake has one of the lowest turnover rates in the league. No Blazer fan is confident with Blake handling ball pressure.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
This is no time to taint Bayless with Blakisms
pressure Bayless and he goes straight to the rim. Pressure Bayless and you lose.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
Stats goes out the window when it doesn't jive with your argument?
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Are you
Dwight Jaynes?
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Dec 17, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
His TOV% is the lowest of all the teams guards
by upper left corner on Dec 18, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Hater
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Dec 17, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
post game interview with nate " bayless needs to play off the ball"
doesnt sound like he will be a point gaurd anytime soon
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Well then play him "off the ball" then.
JUST PLAY HIM
by Bicycle Rider on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
He is not given the chance...
Constantly is the shooting guard in a three-guard lineup. He is perfecting it, but he dished some quality dimes tonight. Given that time to develop, he can get his assists. He always relegates to his teammates, but nothing was working tonight for anyone else so he took on that offensive burden. Even as a 2, he dishes and looks for the open man more than Blake when he gets stagnant. Blake sees a double-team and tenses up, turns it over. Bayless is quick and can split it or dish it. It’s Blake’s reluctancy that gets him, Bayless has URGENCY, and that’s great, in a 2 or a 1. If he is destined to be a 2 guard, he will be a passing 2 guard. His assist numbers will only improve.
Bring the bling to Rip City, Natch'
Trade John Canzano!
Nate saying
IT HURTS SO GOOD (basically). He’s got to be in lots of pain now but awesome type of pain since we won.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Nope. His high is 25 vs. Denver in 2007.
Rk Age Date Tm Opp GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 26-322 2007-01-14 DEN @ POR W 1 36 9 13 .692 5 7 .714 2 3 .667 0 3 3 4 3 0 2 1 25
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Blake could score more
If he ever went to the line then once every 3 games..
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
No. but BUT BUT he had that clutch 3 down the stretch!!!!
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 17, 2009 10:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Darko...off topic
Just watched Tivo’d PTI and learned that Darko is officially heading to Europe last year. Players drafted after Darko include, as you know, Carmelo, Bosh, and Dwayne Wade, among others.
Your undisputed winner of the worst draft pick of all time….Joe Dumars. If anyone ever says it was Bowie or anything else the Blazers did….my head will explode.
And if Rex can ring up a few more 29 point games, I’m not going to wonder about Kevin Durant for very long.
Darko has a title and a better FG% in playoffs than LeBron
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Dumars definitely gets a free ride for that pick
If he hadn’t won a title afterward, he’d likely hear about it more.
Darko very much ranks on the worst pick list.
This was a big confidence boost for the team, I'd bet
They needed to beat a team over .500 who has previously had their number.
The month of December has a chance of not being so bad.
And to beat an up-tempo team
We have struggeld mightily aginst teams like that this year, NY, GS, Memphis, etc.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yeah I don't get that one at all
But it’s Charles Barkley so I don’t get much of any of what he does.
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
i don't understand
why a lot of these mediatypes consider that comparison as close as it is.
paul is far superior. he’s in a tier of his own, while deron is a notch below along with the likes of nash and billups.
They suckle at the teat of Jerry Sloan?
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I would take Rondo over DWill
Top PGs
1) Paul
2) Rondo
3) Nash
4) DWill
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.
.
5) Bayless heh heh
DWill will finally be an allstar, which he’s long deserved. Calling him the best in the NBA is an epic failure to understand advanced/pace adjusted stats.
#52
You do realize about 2% of the NBA watching populace understands or takes into consideration advance/pace adjusted stats
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
Not even pace adjusted stats
Paul is better just per game as well.
It is nuts not to see it.
I think Barkley is often more right than he gets credit for, but yeesh.
#52
Paul doesn't play defense
And has an inconsistent shooting stroke. Plus his teams have been mediocre.
Keep the faith.
he is statistically a significatly better shooter than Williams
and he leasds the league in steals. You are way off base here.
#52
The all-defense teams may have been a joke this year
but the argument that CP doesn’t play defense is so 2007.
#52
Deron benefits from always looking good when playing directly vs. Paul
Apart from that it’s not particularly close. Deron’s best season is barely better than Paul’s worst.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Barkley has a soft spot for Jerry Sloan and the Jazz
He picked them to be the darkhorse title contenders last year.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
come from behind wins feel good
I prefer winning.
Good night everybody!
Whoo, – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
Come from behind wijns are so last year
And last year was awesome.
Therefore this=awesome.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
He gave up
Martell played him well but he wasn’t showing a lot of effort.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
"It's a good night to be a blazer fan" wheels
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Bayless played what, 29 minutes? Charles Barkley basically called Nate out on TNT. “If they can’t find playing time for this kid even before the injuries, I don’t know what to say..” Man, Jerryd is just a straight up in your face baller. This team needs that toughness and grit on offense. Great lob pass for an Aldridge dunk earlier in the game. Great decision-making late. Very impressed.
Question is going forward can Nate seriously justify giving Blake or Miller more minutes than Jerryd? I’m not calling for Jerryd to start at PG just yet. But I gotta think he’s the 6th man for this team now. I see 25+ minutes in his future every night from now until Rudy returns. That’s when the real drama unfolds and Nate is forced to make more tough decisions.
"Sometimes that light at the end of the tunnel is a train."
-- Charles Barkley
By February...
I won’t be surprised to see PDX make a move around the time Rudy comes back or soon thereafter. One of the point guards could be on their way out.
by iCollective on Dec 17, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Every player needs to earn his time. Bayless is beginning to do so and is getting it.
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
It's also interesting
that we’ve gotten two straight 4th quarter comebacks, both of them with miller on the bench and bayless making plays. I think we need to trade andre for a backup center
by keepportlandstrange on Dec 17, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Bayless is raw and he's still way better than Blake and closing in on miller
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
He is not a point guard
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
He doesn't need to be Chris Paul
when he plays alongside a ball-dominant shooting guard like Brandon Roy. Look at all the great 2’s (K*be and Wade now, MJ before). they usually dont play with a steve nash-type point guard
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Blake did play tenacious defense tonight
even with 2 big 3’s Nash scored 16. Martell was the glue guy hustler.
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
And if Nash is going to hit those 2 3s
Especially the second one, that’s fine. Great players hit tough shots.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Well, you can at least step out on him.
When they twice laid off him and let him have a clear three it had me yelling. “Bad Defense”
I think maybe Roy lost a switch on the second, like he was tapping ‘my bad’…
That last posession...
I said “who’s guarding Nash…oh crap it’s Blake” and sure enough, Nash dropped him and was lucky to run into and get trapped between his own teammates trying to get open, and had to backtrack. Blake’s D there was… woof
Bring the bling to Rip City, Natch'
Trade John Canzano!
Nobody defends Nash but Blake made him work
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
hopefully we can phoenix in the playoffs on TNT :)
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
He said last night it was their last episode before the break
During the Hugh Grant interview, when Jon was clearly unprepared (and therefore very entertaining)
I haven't felt this good about a win
Since probably the second Laker win late last year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I just want to say...
That i was one of those Bayless Haters lol but I was WRONG…. It looks like he can do ALOT more then just put his head down and drive to the basket
Credit to our coaching staff
He didn’t have that outside shot last year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Was that Bayno this summer?
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
Yeah he has been working with him daily
He worked with greg this summer too
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Townsend
And they also sent him a dribbling coach to Phoenix
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
"i-vana-tinkle"
…
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 11:05 PM PST reply actions
bayless rules
brandon played great, martell had some huge boards also. i have to give it up for blake, he played some good defense int he 4th and hit some shots. BIG WIN
Where's AK and his anti-Bayless rant????
He would probably just argue that Bayless isn’t a pg, still – like a lot of others believe. But Bayless is the best pg on the team, right now.
He's Tony Parker
With a better 3 point shot. Or he could be.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I haven't made the "JD" part of my daily reading....
once school is out, maybe I’ll dig into it a little more
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 17, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
We all still have to remember
This is only ONE game we can’t say really much anything until the next couple games, this game just proves that he can and has the potential to play like that right?
He won't score 29 every night
But he doesn’t have to. He just has to play this hard and he’ll be a great help.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
How about what he's been doing all year in limited minutes?
He’s been working hard on defense and very efficient on offense.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
by dan_the_man on Dec 17, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
I love the facials on Bayless
http://asternwarning.com/20091218405/articles/nba/jerryd-bayless-woooo.html
:)
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I'm excited for JBay and great win and all
But Steve Blake – 38 minutes and Andre Miller – 17. Seriously Nate? Seriously??
Blake had a great game
Credit to him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Oh noooooo he had 2 TO's in a row
Message to Coach: Blake ALWAYS lags up the offense. Not the best thing when you need to score a lotta points to beat Phoenix.
KP on Bayless, post draft:
“he’s like Jarrett Jack on steroids.”
Absolutely spot on comparison. Jerryd’s got a higher ceiling though.
Really? Not a fortunate image with the PED problems…
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Please, a roided out Jack
is so out of control he doesn’t even step foot on the court and just continually receives passes standing on the bench.
#52
i hated jarrett
but i love jerryd.
but i hated jack mostly because he played too much and didn’t show any improvement with extended minutes.
Air Bayless
Copyright 2009 NBAE (Photo by Sam Forencich/NBAE via Getty Images)
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
by Norsktroll on Dec 17, 2009 11:11 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It looked like Dudley got his arm on that play
that’s why Bayless was jumping crooked, shoulda been an and one.
very nice poster shot !
with a game to go with it.
Jerryd gets very little sleep toinght.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Only one starter had a positive +/-, tonight
and the Suns turnaround in the 1st started when that starter went out….
Ooo oo let me gues
The tall white dude?
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yeah, that was a stark turnaround when Marty went out
Not coincidentally, it was their SF who started killing us, too.
#52
i've been ranting about McMillan's lack of respect for Webster's intangibles for a while
tonight, however – Webster got some scores and Mac left him in. Those defensive and rebounding plays were even better than the scoring in the 4th….
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 17, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
I’ve been firmly on the Webster train for the past couple years. It simply doesn’t make sense to play Blake in a 3 guard lineup with another PG when Webster can shoot as well, play better D and works twice as hard.
#52
Yeah, that lineup magically
regrew Grant Hill’s ankles for the first half tonight.
#52
Patty Mills is going on the road trip
The guards are taking over
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
He should be back by early next month
And Jeff should make his debut in a week or two.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Phoenix is not built for the playoffs...
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 11:14 PM PST reply actions
There's a areason no run and gun team
Has ever won the title.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Future starting lineup:
Bayless, Roy, Batum, Aldridge, Oden
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
by axel360 on Dec 17, 2009 11:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I love it.
and Batum has a high ceiling too.
NEXT YEAR.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah Batum is gonna make this team so much better
Can’t wait till he is back and on his game
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Marty did some nice things in the 4th though
he’s been working
I like the fact that this team is fighting.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
Since the Cleveland game
This team has showed me a lot. Evein in their two losses, they fought hard.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I almost wrote something totally inappropriate for BE
Instead, I’ll just say that I’m excited.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
by dan_the_man on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
Coolest play of the game for me
Bayless’s up and under to put us up for good.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I hereby nominate Jerryd Bayless to be the new "Most Interesting Man in the World"
Oregon Football: Keeping Oregon State out of the Rose Bowl since 2008
If you have five dollars and Jerryd Bayless has five dollars, Jerryd Bayless has more money than you.
There is no ‘ctrl’ button on Jerryd Bayless’s computer. Jerryd Bayless is always in control.
Apple pays Jerryd Bayless 99 cents every time he listens to a song.
Jerryd Bayless can sneeze with his eyes open.
Jerryd Bayless can eat just one Lay’s potato chip.
Jerryd Bayless is suing Myspace for taking the name of what he calls everything around you.
Jerryd Bayless destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
Jerryd Bayless can kill two stones with one bird.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
by dan_the_man on Dec 17, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Jerryd Bayless can divide by zero
Jerryd Bayless doesn’t do push ups—he pushes the world down.
Oh, all those old jokes are funny again with Jerryd Bayless. Or it might just be my Bayless euphoria…
Did anyone doubt that when he put up that 3 to put us up 6
That it was going to go in? Me neither. He was that hot.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
How glad are you that we didn't do that trade for Hinrich that included Bayless?
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
I never wanted Kurt
I didn’t understand our obsession with him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
WELL it was one game
And Hinrich’s proven defense is proven defense we need.
BUT, Bayless has a chance to be a lot more dynamic, and a good defender, but I won’t hold my breath for him to be as good as Hinrich at D… but a lot better offensively.
#52
Kirk just had his name legally changed to "Klank" though...
that can’t be a good omen…
eh?
hehe?
booya!
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
And unlike a week ago
That’s a very good thing.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
no words for his excellent game tonight =D
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 17, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
HE BROKE TWITTER!
I think its all J-Bay’s fault that Twitter went down right after he won the game for us.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Don't be embarrassed
Lots of guys have a small sample size.
Oregon Football: Keeping Oregon State out of the Rose Bowl since 2008
Bayless also led the team in +/- (+13) along with Martell (+18) while Miller was the worst (-7)
Don’t +/- is a meaningless stat for one game me
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
depending on context - it can be very relevant
I thought it was, tonight.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 17, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Dante needs to have a break out game now
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Blake hit 4 of 7 from thee tonight. That's actually better than I would have thought, and justifies having him out there.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
I like his D in spurts
he is a smart player and can contribute.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 17, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
he tried
but in pro sports – try isn’t usually good enough. He’s just too small to play that role (wing defender).
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 17, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
He was lot better than he has been
When LMA would switch out on Nash he was winding up in the paint with the big guys
by southern oregon on Dec 17, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
he filled his role well, I dont mind him playing but less than baylesss would be good
andre got us off to some good starts though too, something we have been lacking.
by tevisthe4th on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
obviously everything happens for a reason
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 17, 2009 11:27 PM PST reply actions
You know it shouldn't have took this long for bayless to get mins
Nate is still going to throttle his mins, i just know he is..
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
KP TRADE BLAKE Please he just had a ok game.. on national tv
Get Er Done
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Unfrotunately, we're terrible at selling high
While KP is great, he’d make a terrible financial advisor.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
I agree
he got nothing for Randolph, Telfair, Ratliff, Foye or Kryapa
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 17, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
and more recently
he failed to sell high on Sergio after 2006-07, and Outlaw after 2007-08. Also turned RLEC into Miller.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Why is Randolph on that list?
Because we really did get nothing for him.Francis + Frye isn’t exactly a great haul, especially when Richard Jefferson was available.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Well, dodging RJeff
was a good thing, although I don’t really subscribe to the theory that he only reason we got Rudy was because of the trade exception.
#52
I know
look how good Richard Jefferson has been for SA. Putting them over the top.
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 18, 2009 1:06 AM PST up reply actions
Bayless has given me a reason to remain positive after Greg went down.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
BAYLESS
What’s going to happen when Rudy comes back?
Rudy will have to play more 3
alongside two other guards
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
We trade one guard, or there will be not much playing time going around and 2 guys sitting a lot (Mills and ...)
But as we have seen on the SF position, depth can vanish in a hurry, so not sure KP feels like fixing this.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
5 Guard Line-up
You can never have too many points.
They might even run the Oden-Oops play and run out 6 Guards when Patty is ready…
That was like a poem
It was beautiful, man.
#52 by Mortimer on Dec 17, 2009 10:35 PM PST
BLAKE
What’s going to happen when Rudy comes back?
by blacknoiseNW on Dec 17, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
1 of 2 things:
The right thing – Rudy will absorb most of the minutes currently going to Blake, who almost always plays with either Miller or Bayless on the floor now.
OR
The wrong thing – Rudy and Bayless split 25-30 minutes per game while we continue to play Blake 25 minutes a game as the shooting guard.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Rex: This
"I could have done with other loves perhaps. But there it is, either you love or you don't" -SB
by nightbluefruit on Dec 17, 2009 11:43 PM PST reply actions
The more important question is: is Nate Miyagi?
"I could have done with other loves perhaps. But there it is, either you love or you don't" -SB
by nightbluefruit on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
He definitely doesn't let you on the court before you have learned the basics
Left, right, left, right
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
I hope that’s Nate’s instructions for walking.
"I could have done with other loves perhaps. But there it is, either you love or you don't" -SB
by nightbluefruit on Dec 17, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
That’s too bad because every part of that song that’s not from the movie is disappointing.
"I could have done with other loves perhaps. But there it is, either you love or you don't" -SB
by nightbluefruit on Dec 17, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
ALL OF IT?
"I could have done with other loves perhaps. But there it is, either you love or you don't" -SB
by nightbluefruit on Dec 17, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
Love to wake up to headlines "Bayless 29 points, Blake traded"
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
ha Kenny vance just read my txt also on the air..lol
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
When's the last time someone has seen two guards just take over a game like that, for any team?
It’s been a while for me. They put the team on their back, with a little help from folks like Martell in key moments.
Yeah that was some D wade type playin tonight
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Can't pick out a specific game
but I’m sure you could find one with Manu and TP somewhere.
#52
I don't hate Miller, but I want him traded for a SF or PF/C
OMG I just jizzed in my France
i feel the same way...
…only about Blake
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Blake has 0 value
OMG I just jizzed in my France
It is shocking how little
I would accept in return for Blake at this point.
#52
Same here...
I would take a bag of balls or that chair Li Jianlian posted up. Seriously.
(Not that I hate Blake, mind you….just afraid of Bayless not getting burn once Rudy comes back)
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Package everything and gimme Wallace
Or Okafor
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Just got back from the game.
Wow. The crowd just erupted when Bayless hit the reverse layup off the top of the glass.
hire tim grover
#52
awesome, we errupted here too :)
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
One note on the opponents: Dragic is mighty fast, and the old Amare could be back soon
I have better hopes for Phoenix than before the season.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Yeah, Phoenix is solid
If not for Amare missing a bunch of makeable shots (that we made him work for, though), we probably lose this game.
#52
I don't think it's possible we lose
When BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS won’t let us down.
#52
Blakey is fast as lightning :)
Copyright 2009 NBAE (Photo by Sam Forencich/NBAE via Getty Images)
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Not so fast
It seemed to me that Nash was running right past him. Blake hit some good shots tonight though.
by Jeremazing on Dec 18, 2009 12:05 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
How about Miller/Outlaw for Bass/Pietrus?
OMG I just jizzed in my France
Doubt Magic would do that.
Bass has more trade value than Blake (even with Blake’s expiring contract) and Pietrus has WAY more trade value than Outlaw, plus Outlaw is injured and they are competing for a title. If we trade Blake and Outlaw it will be to a team that is ONLY looking for extra caproom
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Here's to hoping
Bayless doesn’t get lost in the shuffle when Rudy, Batum, and Outlaw come back.
Payless
I was a sceptic of bayless at first but he proved to me he could get it done. I was really impressed.
Also I am coining the nickname Payless because we get more for our money when it comes to bayless.
by Jeremazing on Dec 18, 2009 12:03 AM PST via mobile reply actions
"Me and Bran talk about what I can do," Bayless said. "He can be the LeBron (James) and I can be Mo (Williams), a guy that can make plays."
#52
I always though Bran wanted to be kobe
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
You mean the Yellow Mamba thing?
That’s just a fake out. He wants to be known as crowned prince instead.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
One thing I was very impressed with tonight was Bayless’ playmaking. Before the scoring burst in the fourth, he was doing an excellent job of keeping offensive flow. He made several nice passes to open jump shooters.
How ’bout that lob?
hire tim grover
#52
That lob
Made me realize it was going to be an awesome night for Jerryd.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
by dan_the_man on Dec 18, 2009 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
I got curious and looked through your last few posts
I couldn’t find what instance you told me so about :-(
#52
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