Trade Drawer?
by bmw007wu on Dec 16, 2009 11:15 AM PST
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Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake for the newly-available Anthony Randolph and Speedy Claxton.
The salaries work, Speedy sits behind Miller and Bayless and has an expiring deal, Randolph gives SF/PF versatility with scoring, defense, and potential, Trout fits the Warriors style if they want to re-sign him, and Trout and Blake have $8 mil in expiring contracts.
It's not perfect, but it would likely improve the team now and in the future. It also helps fill some of the voids left by injury, and Randolph still works as a backup SF/PF when Batum is healthy again.
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I wouldn't do that trade.
Randolph has potential, but Outlaw has proven production. I would be open to trading Travis, but only if it gives us back someone who has the proven ability to help this team compete long term. No trades for this season only please!
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We wouldn't do it either don't worry
Outlaw has peaked while Randolph is going to be the cornerstone of the franchise.
When is Nelly going to commit to playing this kid?
I actually like the core of Ellis, Curry, Randolph and Morrow. Good young shooters, need a stronger offensive post threat than Biedrins at some point, but that is a good group to run an uptempo style with. I don’t know abnout a title contender, but it could bring back the Run TMC days (good team, peripheral conference finals contender).
Always supporting Greg Oden.
by blazeraddict on Dec 16, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah...I don't see GS doing this unless we throw some first rounders in
Then again, it is GS and they are liable to do anything last few years.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Yeah, if GSW trades Randolph, they're dumber than I thought.
That guy is on the verge of superstardom. He’s a singular talent. Sky’s the limit.
My only concern is that Outlaw
goes elsewhere at the end of the season for money purposes and we miss an opportunity to get something out of him. Especially since we’ve invested so much hope and time in him. I am confident that “buky” is correct though, GS would be foolish to make that trade. I have seen crazier things, the Gasol trade comes to mind, but I doubt it in this case. If it were possible I would do it. i like Randolph’s length and potential.
one bad I am officiaI promise you one thing if Randolph is traded for somely becoming a Blazers fan
Heaving patience is one thing but watching this franchise destroying the best fanbase in the NBA is insulting and I’m a Warriors fan for 15 years but i will jump off this ship if another stardome player is thrown out.
But now I have to unrec it, because nearly the same idea is posted 4 Fanposts down.
The details are slightly different, but it’s still a trade for Randolph and Claxton. :(
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From the Blazers side, I think it's a no brainer
No way the Blazers are re-signing Outlaw (or keeping him for very long after they re sign him), so it’d be nice to get something for him. Blake is less than useless.
The Warriors though, that franchise is just so screwed up that I have no idea what to expect from them.
whenever possible, sell when high
I suspect KP will resign Trout this summer to a lower-than-expected, short term contract and Travis will have more trade value in 12+ months than he does right now with a broken foot
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The Blake-for-Bass idea is safer,
and this trade is riskier, just because I’m not sure if Randolph will prove to be an overly emotional head case with limited offensive ability. But the GSW trade has far more upside. I just don’t think that GSW is going to decide that a net $3 mil in expiring contract is the best they can do for A. Randolph, esp. consider how much the fanbase there is enamored of him.
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 AM PST reply actions
So, let's raise the stakes.
GS might be more receptive to the deal if Rudy were thrown in. Would you still want to do it?
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by Badalona Baddie on Dec 16, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather target Turiaf
Bass is not the interior defender that Portland needs when Przy is out of the game
Randolph has the most upside, down the road, but he could also be another Z-bo
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Randolph is already a better help defender than Z-bo ever was.
Is Turiaf a good defender? He seems OK in the post against bigger guys, but I feel like he might be a little overrated on that end. People see him out there working hard and they immediately associate that with good defense.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 16, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure if I'd rate him as excellent
but I think he’s pretty good. He’s physical at least. A banger type in which we need now to back up Przybilla when he gets in foul trouble.
Roy spoke well of Ronny
following the playoffs last spring, Brandon named Turiaf as the kind of banger that he’d like to see KP go after
now, more than ever
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Turiaf is a really good shotblocker
Not a good rebounder, but he tries on defense and blocks shots.
His hustle and activity and his return from the heart problems has likely made him overrated.
Morty
#52
Golden State is a messed up franchise, but...
not even their management would be so daft as to make this deal. Would take additional sweeteners from Portland, a first round pick at a minimum.
the best way to describe the crowd's support for Oden: It's like watching 15,000 parents rooting for their kid, only all 15,000 parents fathered the same kid. -Bill Simmons
by stevecolterssocks on Dec 16, 2009 12:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
exactly
Golden State would never do this trade. They can get so much more value for Randolph. And they have plenty of expiring contracts already. They don’t need more. If they trade Randolph, it’ll be for an establish talent (most likely a big). Other than maybe Joel Przybilla, we don’t have anyone they’d be interested in. And we’re not trading Przybilla.
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I should add
Speedy Claxton is himself an expiring contract, so this trade accomplishes nothing for Golden State other than giving away a very good player for nothing. It’s doesn’t even increase their cap space significantly.
If we were willing to take on Maggette’s (large) contract in addition to Randolph and were to throw in someone like Nic Batum, Golden State might not immediately hang up the phone. But I don’t think we want to do that.
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Hmm
Miller, Outlaw (and change) for Maggette and Turiaf would go a long way towards solving the Blazer’s forward-center short-term needs
(I don’t like the Whitsitt-like chemistry experiment, though.)
I suspect Nellie would prefer Bayless, and that would be a tough decision for KP. He’s got to keep the team’s future in mind
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Bayless
with Curry and Monta would be clutter.
normally, you'd think so
but Nellie has always liked guards who will drive the ball hard and draw fouls, so Jerryd fits that profile. You can’t put Don in a box when it comes to roster balance
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Golden State might do this
They really want to dump Maggette. They’d probably only do this, though, if they got a big in return. They’d want (at least) Pendergraph or Cunningham thrown in.
www.ripcitydispatch.com
Agreed. This one actually has a possibility of going through
Still would rather try to pry Randolph over Turiaf, but not bad.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
whoa
I didn’t realize Magette was making almost 9 mil, adding Turiaf and his 4 mil puts this proposal out of reach…
Magette + Turiaf = 13+ mil
Miller + Outlaw + capspace = 11.7 mil
unless Portland adds a little “change” like)
Howard = 825k
Pendergraph = 457k
that might get it done
Resulting lineups/depth
Blake/Bayless/Mills
Roy/Bayless/Webster (until Rudy is healthy)
Magette/Webster (or maybe Nate brings Corey off the bench, Outlaw role?)
LMA/Turiaf/Cunningham
Przy/Turiaf
still pretty thin in the frontcourt, unless they use that 16th roster spot exemption to add another FA big guy. Obviously this deal depends on Turiaf’s health and whether Nate thinks Corey is a decent fit…Magette would attack the hoop and he could be helpful re: post defense against physical SFs
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tradecheckers approved
http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/
passed
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
wouldn’t let me add Howard, but allowed the deal with Pendergraph only added to Miller and Outlaw. This would be the better deal from Portland’s perspective (GS would probably just waive Howard anyway, but Juwan could be useful to the Blazers as a practice player and “emergency” PF)
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whoa, part 2
I’m not sure I’d want to pay Maggette10 mil/year for the next 4 years…that could easily turn out to be a Hedo-like mistake
So, perhaps a Miller-Pendergraph for Turiaf-Randolph-Morrow deal would be “safer”
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Trading Pendergraph wouldn't be a big loss.
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
if we're really lucky
GS scouted Jeff for the draft and liked him
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Blake for Joel Anthony and a 2nd Round Pick
Miami uses their trade Exception to make it work, we get a back up center 5 mil in cap space to work with this season, and a 2nd round pick.
Draft Cole Aldrich 2010
The GSW's would never do this
but of course this works for us. This is like getting a top 5 pick in next years draft for two expiring contracts. If you can do it, you do it. Randolph is an out of this world great defender with the potential to be an out of this world great offensive threat as well. Think Jermaine O’Neal with perimeter quality handles.
We’re not going anywhere this year, these are the types of trades we need to make to be relevant in the future. Standing pat is not an option.
Randolph is not an "out of this world" defender.
The Warriors allow more points per possesion when he’s on the floor. He does some spectacular things on the defensive end, but it doesn’t make up for his lapses in judgment, skinny frame, lack of muscle, etc.
He might have some potential on defense, but he’s not there yet.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 16, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
I don't really trust any defensive numbers that come with
a Don Nelson team. But I also understand he’s raw. None of that changes the fact this deal is an easy go from the Blazer side. Same deal as getting a high lottery pick.
For sure.
I don’t trust defensive numbers period, but it confirms what my eyes are telling me. He has potential for sure. It’s just not all there yet.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 16, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
How about
our team injury bug and 1 billion of Paul Allen’s fortune for the Sun’s team doctors?
by 2dVs4u on Dec 16, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I got one...
Not sure of the reception it’ll get because I know people love them some Travis Outlaw in here. Outlaw and Blake for Udonis Haslem. Of course there are a few reason to doubt this trade, Outlaw being injured this biggest. However, I do have a response to those who say we are not getting enough “talent” back: You are correct. Addition through subtraction. It will still help the Blazers to become a better team.
First, Udonis will bring some interior defense and rebounding we need. Joel can’t do it alone. Second, It will help to more clearly define the roles of the players on the team, erasing the uncertainty and anxiety that I believe has plagued this team as much as the injuries. Andre becomes the undisputed starter while Bayless becomes a key reserve (officially). When we are all healthy, Outlaw’s departure along with Udonis’ addition clears up exactlty what position everyone will be playing night in-night out. Udonis is the back-up PF, and Batum/Webster are the team’s top-two small forwards.
I think the key to this team’s success is to clearly define each and every player’s role, formulate a plan based on those roles, and give that plan time to develop.
....formerly GonzoFan. Now, this has been a message from "The People's Alliance to Continue to Encourage Greg Oden on his Path to Dominance"
Bad link...WTFudge?
I even copied the url that says “share this trade”…not the one on top of the page. Anyways, the trade works at the ESPN Trade Machine. $7.6M outgoing for $7.1M incoming I think.
Get well soon, G.O.
#52
I'd do this for sure
Haslem is a legit big. Might be a bit of wishful thinking though. Miami loves his services as well.
Miami wouldn't do this
I don’t think Miami likes Blake enough to trade Haslem for him. Maybe one of their other forwards (except Beasley).
www.ripcitydispatch.com
I'm pretty sure the Heat love Haslem and wouldn't trade him in the first place.
And I’m also pretty sure that Haslem would likely go right back to Miami as a FA, considering things like this: http://www.faniq.com/blog/Udonis-Haslem-Florida-Tattoo-Blog-23350
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Dec 16, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Well, then.
Easy fix. One line down the left side, one across the bottom, pretend the squiggly line down the middle is I-5 – done and done. :)
Get well soon, G.O.
#52
that's a great trade for the Blazers
but why would the Heat do that?
Steve Blake to the Heat for James Jones — straight up.
Not sure if it works economically, but Jones has proven he knows how to “play the Portland,” and he’s a reserve there on a team without World Championship aspirations.
Blake goes somewhere he’s needed, Portland gets the SF which they need, and all is right with the world.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Trade works in the machine.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I like it.
Except, didn’t Jones mess up his wrist? That might not bode well for his shooting.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
much more realistic
I think Miami would probably do this. Not sure what Jones’ health status is at the moment though.
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I would rather take back Greg's old buddy Daequan Cook
But not sure Miami is the ideal trading parter for us, even though they still have an exception to absorb some salary and their local beat writer likes to fantasize about bringing back Steve to the sunshine state.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
This only works when Rudy is back
Otherwise, we are down to three guards.
#52
3 team idea
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5327545
por-was-gsw
to por:
-Butler
to was:
-Azibuike
-Blake
-Randolph
Our rotation following trade:
Miller/Bayless
Roy/Webs
Butler/Batum
Aldridge/
Jooel/
to gsw:
-Outlaw
-Rudy
tryin again, w/o errors
3 team idea
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5327545
por-was-gsw
to por:
-Butler
to was:
-Azibuike
-Blake
-Randolph
to gsw:
-Outlaw
-Rudy
Our rotation next year following trade:
Miller/Bayless
Roy/Webs
Butler/Batum
Aldridge/ cunningham
oden/joel
sure, why not?
rudy would flourish in that gs system, as would outlaw.
wizards get a pg who they can choose to start with arenas and also a legit young talent in randolph.
I think the Warriors really like Azubuike
But not a bad trade though.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Not much there for Washington.
Golden State and Portland make out well, but Butler is one of Washington’s best scoring options and is capable of holding down the fort if Arenas is injured. They’re also doing pretty well in the power forward department with Antawn Jamison.
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
Now this is a homerun
I have always loved Butler’s game and long thought he would be an excellent fit with this team. He plays well off the ball. If there is a Santa Claus……this is my wish!
Has Butler slipped this year...
or is it more of a function of Arenas being back in the rotation?
I think it's more due to Arenas but haven't watched enough Wiz game to be sure
He looks lost out there in couple games I watched.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
From what I have seen
it is more of a function of Arenas being back in the rotation. There was even a reported rift between the two. Butler is a good player though, and I would take him in a heartbeat.
Wiz might do that
if they’re looking to rebuild. But I don’t know why Golden State would do that. They already have a lot of guards, including Anthony Morrow, who does everything Rudy does. If Washington is willing to do this deal, Golden State would probably rather have Caron Butler. They’d cut Portland out.
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my rationale here is that
1) gs is cheap, and 2) they’d want some sort of equal young talent in return for randolph.
outlaw would play pf full time for them, and rudy could move to sf if needed. although he’s another guard, he’d probably become their second best player immediately as a result of style of play.
Cut Mills, call up Dontell Jefferson from the D-League (6'5" and best PG there)
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/index.jsp?player=dontell_jefferson
(Picture via Ridiculous Upside)
Then trade Blake and Joel for Okafor as insurance against future injuries by either LaMarcus or Greg since he can play and especially defend both positions. Draft another PF/C next summer or bring over Freeland.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
I love it.
Blake and Joel for Okafor makes a lot of sense. It solidifies the long term rotations since you don’t have to worry about Joel leaving and Okafor can fill in for either position. There’s also way less position duplication since Okafor has a skill set that’s different than Oden or LMA.
Dontell Jefferson seems really interesting.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 16, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Boy, if you think Aldridge is overpaid...
I’d rather re-up Joel for $7-8 mil per year if he opts out.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Okafor is better than Joel, IMHO.
I love Joel, I think he’s a much better defender, but I think Okafor’s offense balances it out. Plus he’s younger.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 16, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
I think they are equal, or even give slight edge to Joel.
I think Okafor’s offense is suspect, at best. He’s never really looked smooth on offensive end, not at UConn or in the NBA. I was actually quite surprised at how far away from the basket that he likes to operate offensively. Defensively, there is no question that Joel is his better.
While he is younger, Joel is likely to be productive at least to his mid 30’s. By then, I think we would know what we’d do with Greg. He’ll either be healthy enough to give us 60 to 80 games each year or just can’t stay healthy and this team has to make new plans regarding the C spot.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
If Okafor’s offense is “suspect at best”, then I have to rate Joel as atrocious. Okafor averages 13.8 vs. 4.2 ppg over his career vs. Joel’s career, and 10.6 vs. 6.5 rebounds. He blocks more shots, gets more assists, draws more fouls.
It’s very similar even if you compare Joel’s career year last season with Okafor’s last season (14.9 vs. 7.4 if extrapolated to 36 minutes, 11.3 to 11.2, 59% FT vs. 55, 17 PER vs. 12, etc.).
I really like Joel as a backup, but it’s not close that Okafor is the better player. I don’t think the Blazers move Joel, but if they are looking for a viable alternative considering the health of Joel, Oden and also considering LMA has been remarkably healthy so far Okafor would be a very high quality option, and he seems pretty available considering the Hornets and Kings discussed swapping him again for scrubs with short or expiring contracts (which Joel and Blake would deliver, at a higher quality). I would much much rather have Okafor than say Sam Dalembert, or always worrying about a totally screwed up rotation if any of the 2 top bigs gets injured.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
I do agree that Joel is atrocious on offense
Probably downright “offensive”, I’d say. Still, extrapolate last couple season and adjust it for pace, and I’d be surprised if Okafor outperforms Joel in anything else besides points and fouls drawn. If you compare apples to apples, I do believe that Joel and Emeka would come out very similar to each other, except Joel is 2/3 the price of Okafor.
Another thing you have to consider is roles. Do you honestly think Okafor would be happy to be coming off the bench for next 3 or 4 years? Unless we know Oden will never play more than 40 games per season for next 4 years, I just don’t see how Okafor would be happy coming off the bench. (and for this team to make such an expensive commitment to a backup 5 for next 4 years)
Given the choice between Dalembert and Okafor, I’d choose Okafor every single time as well…because Dalembert is awful and Okafor is pretty good. Still, I don’t think it’s the backup C position that we’d have to worry about in the long term, unless we know for sure that Joel will opt out AND sign elsewhere.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
That's next 4 years on top of the current year..
and will top out at $14.5 million…yikes.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Hardship Awarded!
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Don’t cut Mills just yet. I want to see what he can do.
I would also still do pretty much any trade that lands us Gerald Wallace that don't include Nic Batum.
That would pick up the drops in rebounding, perimeter defense and easy scoring and give us a valid 2/3 scoring option to take pressure/focus off Roy on both ends and put more pressure on the opponents paint.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
There's no way they trade Wallace at this point.
He’s an all-star. I’m not sure we have the pieces to land him anymore.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 16, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
I think he’ll never be an All-Star which is unfortunate the way he plays on both ends of the floor. But I would agree that last year was a better chance to get him. Though you never know with Larry Brown and MJ at the helm. Who knew Augustin would suddenly fall out of favor? Or Richardson? Or Okafor?
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
I think the coaches will vote him in.
Apparently Larry Brown loves him again.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 16, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Procrastination tinkering with the Trade Machine:
WAS gets:
Maggette
Blake
GS gets:
C. Butler
Rudy
POR gets:
A. Randolph
A. Morrow
DeShawn Stevenson (then cut either him or Patty Mills to get roster down to 15)
Why WAS would do it: Probably the hardest to justify since Maggette has 2 more years on his contract than does Butler, but obviously what Washington’s got is performing far under expectations, so they might want to shake things up, and it’s not like Maggette is a major downgrade from Butler. Blake would give the Bullets a solid backup PG who could also play well in tandem with Arenas.
Why GS would do it: Obviously in order to trade Randolph they’ve got to get some talent back, and Caron Butler and Rudy Fernandez represent real talent. Butler is a solid scorer and a good defender at the 3. Fernandez is a dynamic player who would likely flourish in an uptempo style of play. They shed the onerous Maggette contract. Morrow is expendable because of Rudy and Stephen Curry.
Why POR would do it: Blazers retool slightly for the future by acquiring an athletic 3/4 with ridiculous athleticism and monstrous upside, one who could well reach his potential away from Don Nelson (hopefully Nate wouldn’t traumatize him, as well). Anthony Morrow is a dependable 3-pt and midrange shooter who replaces a decent chunk of Rudy’s production. DeShawn Stevenson is an expiring contract thrown in to make the deal work and could be cut or employed as a perimeter defender. Blake’s departure forces Roy to adapt and learn how to play with Miller and Bayless.
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Dec 16, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions
Caveat: I still think the Warriors would be stupid to trade Randolph, but they ARE the Warriors.
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Dec 16, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Try this one on for size
Deng for Rudy, Martell and Outlaw.
This would really be a three way trade with the Hornets receiving those guys and Chicago receiving David West.
The more I see our team the more I’m convinced that Meka and West can’t play together. Our wings such but our biggest flaw right now is our pick and roll defense. West is too slow fotted to play with Meka. Although West’s contract is much more cap friendly, it is much more difficult to find a good center then it is to find a good power forward.
You guys get a perfect player to put at the 3. Deng is iessentially the best case scenarior for Batum. No he doesn’t shoot the 3, but he is tall, athletic, high character…. oh yeah and he averages 20 and 8. He could also easily play the 4 in small ball alignments.
You trade your beloved Rudy, your less beloved Martell, and you admit that Outlaw won’t be able to do anything this year. Heck the Hornets would even be willing to buy him out so you could get him back.
Anyways, thoughts?
Here's another one...
…trade machine approved.
Blake, Outlaw, and Webster for Corey Maggette and Anthony Randolph. Our rotation (w/o injuries) would be as so:
PG – Miller / Bayless
SG – Roy / Fernandez
SF – Maggette / Batum
PF – Aldridge / Randolph
C – Oden / Przybilla
C-
Get well soon, G.O.
#52
Is shedding 31 million dollars of Maggette's future contract
for 10 million dollars of Webster’s future contract worth Anthony Randolph?
It would get them to around 12 or 13 million dollars under the cap.
This would clear up our depth as well as any move I’ve seen. Fernandez being our only rifleman from outside is a little disconcerting, but he’d probably see his 30 minutes a night for the remainder of his career if that’s what’s left. Dante is 3rd 3/4 and Pender is the final 4/5 unless Freeland joins us. Then you throw in the 2010 draft pick and a 2010 MLE if needed.
If they wanted us to keep Webster and give back Przy, and they add Turiaf, I’d be good with that as well. That way they see the full savings amount starting next year.
That’d be 15 for 15 this year and they’d drop 31 of Maggette and Randolph’s future years. I can see a financial decision like that being made. That would also put them darn close to being a full Max Free Agent contract below the cap. There are a lot of guys that fit this roster waiting in FA this year.
I don't see it happening on our end
1. As long as Nate is our coach, we are going to be looking to spread the floor with three point shooters.
2. I think this is the case as long as KP is our GM.
3. I think this SHOULD be the case if Greg Oden is our center.
4. I think this could lead to trouble with Randolph getting no more minutes behind LMA than he currently gets.
5. Alternatively, it runs the risk of Joel opting out this summer and leaving.
Why it might work:
1. If Bayless looks like next year’s starter, and he starts knocking down his 3s at 35%+ this year.
2. If Rudy comes back healthy and bombing the 3s.
3. If KP/Nate are confident that Nic is going to hit 3s near 40%.
If those three things happen, then perhaps shedding three deep threats for none in return might be acceptable.
At least we wouldn’t have to worry about Maggette flopping LMA into foul trouble anymore.
#52
hypothetical
is it possible to trade steve blake for a draft pick, like maybe a late first rounder? for instance, say the lakers think they need to add a 3 point shooter from off the bench for the playoffs. is it legal, considering there is no matching salaries, etc? It seems like it might work for both teams, since he would essentially serve as a rent-a-player and they don’t seem real keen on developing rookies while kobe is in his prime, and it takes care of our need to shed a player or two once everyone gets healthy. plus, who knows who we could get in the draft, i generally trust KP to make better stuff happen there then in trades
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 17, 2009 12:36 PM PST reply actions
Only if the other team has cap space
or a trade exception big enough for Steve’s salary. The only team with cap space is OKC, as far as I know. I don’t know who all has trade exceptions. I think Miami and Orlando do. I don’t think LA does.
#52
well i guess that's out
i could only see a championship contending team with a need for 3 point shooters wanting to do it, and orlando certainly doesn’t need another reddick…
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 17, 2009 1:54 PM PST reply actions
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