Full Court Press
In case you were wondering: a source close to Greg Oden says the center is "upbeat" and is currently recovering at home with his family. Oden's father flew into town to be with his son. Oden is expected to remain in Portland to continue his rehabilitation work and likely will not be travelling with the team on any road trips this season. His next few months are expected to include "rehab and television." Best wishes.
Lots to discuss this week, Bayless and otherwise. Here's what you might have missed on BE recently...
Synergy on Bayless | Cavs Recap | Bucks Recap | Quick vs. Bayless | Dave on Bayless
All caught up? Good. Now, please give your full attention Brian T. Smith's profile of Andre Miller. I think it is his best work of the year; there's so much going on here.
Soon, Ben Furnace was teaching Miller basketball at a local YMCA facility located a few blocks from The Forum, where the Los Angeles Lakers then played. Ben preached layups, bounce passes, defense and floor spacing - many of the key traits that define Miller's current game. And he strove to instill in Miller an appreciation of teamwork, sharing and selflessness.
"We didn't have kids where they felt they were star of the team," Furnace said. "We didn't allow that."
In addition, there were values such as independence and diligence that the Furnaces upheld, as well as rules that were made not to be broken: no disrespect and no misbehavior. Each value and every rule was passed on to Miller.
"What we did as a family then, we still do today," Furnace said. "We don't deviate. We don't have no highs, we don't have no lows."
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Dwight Jaynes writes...
Of the many things Jason [Quick] said, he predicted that Andre Miller would be in the starting lineup Tuesday night in the Rose Garden when the Blazers play host to the Sacramento Kings.
Quick also referenced some things going on behind the scenes that he couldn't expand on, including an assertion that the team was sometimes not confident that it could win when it takes the floor. It's pretty obvious, isn't it, that a lot of things are going on behind the scenes with that team? Injuries shouldn't obscure the problems that have existed since training camp.
Mike Prada from SB Nation says the Blazers are the 21st most watchable team in the NBA...
Want transition play? Watch someone else. Portland is the slowest-paced team in the league. Here's a typical offensive possession for Portland: Steve Blake dribbles around for 14 seconds while getting six picks that he fails to use, then dumps it in the post to LaMarcus Aldridge, who shoots an 18-foot turnaround jumper, or gives it to Roy, who makes some breathtaking awesome move for a score. If they miss, they usually rebound it and do it again. Surprisingly, this works, but it's definitely not entertaining.
Coup from Rip City Project writes...
And so ends one of the more forgettable weeks in recent Blazers history. Call it the post-Oden hangover week, or anything else to do with not having a head coach or half the perimeter stable, but the steps backward of losses to New York and Milwaukee out-weighed a sloppy win at Indiana and a pat-on-the-back effort in Cleveland.
I think the last week has taken a fair bit out of both the team and its fans. Not having Nate around wasn't going to help any with the transition to undermanned play and you get the sense that this was more of a week to get through rather than to build on. Things being that way, I'm not going to harp on the problems that haven't gone away. We know Nate has some serious thinking to do regarding the point guard situation (still and again). We know the Blazers are going to struggle getting outscored in the paint every night without anyone inside to draw the defensive attention, but they have found success doing that before. Right now it's best to be patient.
John Hollinger wrote last week...
The Blazers rank only fourth in offensive rebound rate at 29.6. While that's still an impressive figure, the drop hurts -- so much of their attack was built on second shots.
That number is likely to decrease further in Oden's absence. He led the league in offensive rebound rate a year ago and was threatening to defend his title, with only Detroit's Ben Wallace exceeding Oden's 16.0 mark among players with at least 250 minutes played....
If there's good news, it's that the turnovers are likely to diminish. Oden was one of the league's most turnover-prone players, so his absence will improve Portland's numbers in that area. So will the loss of Fernandez, who had become a wild turnover machine in his second season for reasons that aren't entirely clear.
Alas, if the decline in turnovers matches the dip in offensive boards, the Blazers won't be any better off...
Wendell Maxey writes...
In a matter of days, Bayless went from reportedly requesting a trade, to having minutes readily available, to questioning the coaching staff as to why he's on such a short leash after the loss to the Bucks on Saturday night. The kid is obviously frustrated. And who can blame him? I'm all for Bayless staying in Portland, but if he isn't going to get the run now as one of the remaining healthy nine, when will he?
No wonder Bayless' name has become trade fodder. The Blazers may deny he asked to be traded, but they can't deny other front offices around the league continue to inquire about his availability.
Sheed from BustaBucket.com writes...
The biggest problem at this point is the blindness of the Blazers brass when it comes to Jerryd Bayless. There is no question in my mind, that with injuries and somewhat diminishing playoff hopes, WE MUST PLAY BAYLESS. How bad could it be? Just give him a shot. Bayless is showing signs of hitting the open jumper, and if he can do that consistently, he'll make Steve Blake irrelevant on this team. Portland may as well give the young guys more run, I just don't see why they wouldn't.
Casey Holdahl looked at the brief Dean Demopolous tenure...
But for some reason, you don't often hear about players "tuning in" a coach, but it does happen. It's been happening the last three games for the Trail Blazers. With Nate McMillan back in Portland recovering from a ruptured Achilles, lead assistant Dean Demopoulos has been steering the ship through three Eastern Conference road games, with one more to go tonight in Milwaukee. Initially Demopoulos noted the players weren't trained to hear his voice during games since most of the in-game instruction comes from McMillan.
"They're trained a majority of the time through the repetition," said Demopoulos. "They're hearing Nate's voice repetitively, many, many more times than they hear anybody else's. That's just natural."
Greg Jayne of The Columbian goes back to the Draft Kevin Durant well again (even I've moved on)...
I think, and I thought prior to the draft, that Durant is going to be one of the all-time great players and that Portland would be foolish to bypass him. I have never seen a 6-foot-9 player with arms that long who looks so smooth and can beat people off the dribble.
Certainly, nothing has transpired since then to alter that opinion. The thought of Portland with Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge and Kevin Durant is spine-tingling. That would be a championship contender right now.
Mike Barrett writes...
They don't want excuses made, and don't want the focus to be on what they don't have. They realize that help, at least in the short term, isn't on the way. They aren't feeling sorry for themselves, and realize this is what they are going forward.
Also, no one has conspired against them, and there aren't any forces of evil issuing anyone payback (trust me, I've heard all these suggestions from people).
With that in mind, can I respectfully ask one question- can this team catch a friggin' break?
Wendell Maxey writes...
If anyone knows what Greg Oden is going through, it's Michael Redd.
When Portland meets the Milwaukee Bucks on Saturday, the Bucks sharpshooter will return to the lineup after spending time on injured reserve after he sustained a left patella strain the second game of the season. Redd tried to return in late November but to no avail.
Jonathan Abrams of The New York Times with a great read on the triangle offense...
Flynn initially thought of the offense as a freelance system that would cater to his skills with the ball.
He was wrong. The triangle offense is based on reads and rhythm, spacing and cutting. The players, beyond the center, are interchangeable. Guards play in the post, forwards on the wing. The goal is always to take the path of least resistance - unless you are a rookie learning it.
"It's the hardest transition in any sport I've ever played," Flynn said recently.
Kellex of Blaze Of Love would like to see some changes from LaMarcus Aldridge...
Here is your basic LaMarcus Aldridge performance. Show up in the first quarter, have your numbered called a ton to establish an inside presence. Shoot 5-10 fadeaways. If they drop, "Yay! My stats will look awesome at the end of the game." If they don't drop, "Oh well, no one will blame me since Brandon has the ball at the end of the game anyway." Second quarter starts, and number stops being called so let's just grab a couple of defensive rebounds here or there. We'll also allow the below average player we are guarding to shoot uncontested jumpers or we'll just practice turning our head on defense so said average player can get layups instead. Third quarter starts...same as second quarter. Fourth quarter starts...same as second and third quarters. Game over. -11.
Quick Hits
- A Zach Randolph Fan Fiction Contest? Yes. Who else but Hardwood Paroxysm. That title should be ours. Go win that thing.
- Ian Thomsen has a full rundown from David Stern.
- Third Quarter Collapse was named Orlando's Best Sports Blog.
- Enter a raffle to win tickets to the Blazers / Lakers game.
- How insane is Gerald Wallace's rebounding? No. EXACTLY how insane is it, Kevin Pelton?
- John Canzano wrote something about Greg Oden. He wants answers but has none.
- Blazersedge commenters are giving interviews now. A good one at that.
- ChrisDudley.com: he's got a website.
Power Rankings
- Hollinger: Blazers are 13th
- Stein: Blazers are 13th
- Schuhmann: Blazers are 13th
- Mannix: Blazers are 11th
- Parker: Blazers are 10th
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get well soon greg <3
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
by BlazerFan1 on Dec 14, 2009 10:27 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Mike Prada nailed it
One of the most frustrating things being a fan of this team, even during our rise the past three seasons, is just how utterly and completely boring we are to watch.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Dec 14, 2009 10:31 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
agreed
Although I feel that this season’s team plays with less competitive effort and inspiration that last season’s
I’ve turned off more games in dsgust this season already than I did all season last season. Some of the games I turned off this season were still in doubt even, but I just couldn’t stomach the ugliness of the product.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
What I'm trying to say badly is that last season's squad didn't really know what needed to be done but they played hard nearly every night
This squad knows what needs to be done (LMA musckling up, Brandon learning to play without the ball, etc) and still it’s not getting done.
And the worst part is that it looks like nobody cares. I know they all say they do, but out on the court they rarely show it.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
what adds to the frustration for me (at least pre-injuries)
is that we have the horses to play a more exciting style (up tempo and motion/cutter offense). LMA might be the best running 4 in the league. Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Martell, and Bayless are all average to way about average runners/cutters as well. Miller has a proven track record of orchestrating a more up-tempo style AND finding people in hald court. Yet…..nothing.
What’s wrong with putting a system in place that pushes early tempo with our athletes, then if nothing is there we work the halfcourt game with Oden, LMA, and Roy? I know Nate always TALKS about this, but I have to think he is just playing it lip service. If that was really what he wanted, we would see a lot more of it happening. Or maybe, like some say, it’s more Roy than Nate that is slowing us down.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Nate McMillan is, was, and always will be a slow-paced coach, which I've tried to explain ...
to everyone countless times. As you once said, jksnake, calling for a more up-tempo offense is essentially calling for Nate McMillan’s job.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Kevin Pritchard & hire Dennis Lindsey.
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
I totally agree with this frustration at lack of fully utilizing our talent.
As far as Nate goes, actions speak louder than words. It seems he is afraid of making a mistake to a fault, which, at this point is a big mistake. Over controlled, structured, “disciplined” to the point of choking the life out of the game. As far a Roy goes, he just needs leadership, rather than a buddy. I so want to see what a better coach could do with this team. I am thinking the team could respond big time.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
100% agree
This team was built with a fine stable of greyhounds, but Nate won’t let them chase the rabbit… Instead, he’s got the greyhounds on such a short leash the ASPCA should be called in to investigate!
And while I detest BRoy’s inability (or unwillingness) to run the break, it’s still Nate’s fault.
Either Nate is only TALKING a good running game, or he doesn’t know how to coach one, or he’s letting the inmates (BRoy) run the asylum…
The fact that Miller is STILL not starting leads me to believe it’s ©. Nate would like the guys to run, but is not enough in charge of this team to tell Roy that Miller is going to start, and the team is going to run, and if you don’t like it, then we can start Rudy… (when he gets healthy)…
Roy doesn't like to run either
Watch him on the ‘fast break’
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Roy's been a step slow across the board this season
While he’s no Steve Nash, he’s handled the fast break decently prior to this season.
I can't argue with 'decently'
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I wouldn't describe it as "superb" or anything
But he could at least hold his on on the break (both offensively and defensively) before this season. He wasn’t a liability there, but not a force either.
21st most watchable team in the NBA...
gosh, I’m a homer and even I don’t think they deserve to be that high…. seriously steve blake, dribble dribble dribble, pass to B-Roy at the 8 second mark and see if he can do anything…. UGH… Have either Andre or Brandon run the offense or enjoy your lottery pick in June. I hope it’s true what Quick said about Andre starting the next game. But even he’s been up and down. I don’t know what it is about this team but we have bad luck with centers and pgs.
Excellent article by Brian Smith
Thanks for calling our attention to it Ben. “This is the guy who’s been writing bad stuff about me.” – Elgin
Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers
Sophia FTW
"Oden is a man among cub scouts."
by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST
by Sabonis4Ever on Dec 14, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully Quick is right, because Miller needs to start Tuesday
and Bayless needs to get every single minute he can at back up 2, or this team will fall apart. Reggie Miller said that, NBA teammates know who should be playing, who should be shooting, and who should be getting the most minutes, just from playing against each other, and when a coach doesn’t play though players in favor of lesser players, that messes up the team something awful. It might just be a subconscious thing, but Roy, LMA, Joel, even Blake all know that Miller should have been starting from the beginning, and it is effecting them. My uneducated guess is that once Blake moves to the bench and stops playing 40 mins a night, he will start to shoot much better from distance, while at the same time Miller will stop pressing his shot and refert to the play that has made his reputation in this league.
Nate just needs to make the decision and stick with it, stop messing around coach and play the players who have earned it THIS YEAR, not last.
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If Nate goes to the three guard lineup again I will scream.
And hopefully you are right, because it’s not just Blake that’s the problem, a lot of players have played below their innate level of performance. Including Roy.
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
I have to say, I hope Roy looks at LA's perfomance Saturday
When LA was hurt, and uses it as motivation to be the man again.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
With only one healthy SF, playing a 3-guard lineup at some point in the game is inevitable
I also wouldn’t mind a Miller – Roy – Rudy/Miller – Rudy – Roy lineup to start or play extended time. Anything where Bayless is the 3 or Blake plays extended time with Miller makes less sense.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
i'm not a big fan of the 3 guard lineup...
but unless martell webster plays 48 minutes, they can’t avoid playing some of it. however i agree that the starting unit for the 1st and 3rd quarters should be:
Miller, Roy, Webster, Aldridge & Przybilla
i will honestly
not be suprise if he does. Web has not been playing well lately so Nate has that excuse to keep Blake in the starting lineup, as well as that lineups record of 7-2 earlier this year. I hate that lineup but almost expect it tonight.
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I think this Winter shall be filled with Blazer ennui
Don’t want to be a downer. But this is the least optimistic I’ve felt about the team in years. This entire season even before Oden went down didn’t feel right, Brandon wasn’t playing right, LA hasn’t been playing well, a lot of our role players took huge steps backward. I almost feel like hibernating till next October.
Garden Variety Internet Denizen. Play Jerryd Bayless.
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
I can deal with losing, there are injuries, it's to be expected.
But the ugly stagnant offense and the PG situation is inexcusable, and, I am more convinced than ever, a coaching problem.
We'll see Thursday
Not looking past Sacramento totally but if we can’t win that one going away we have far more serious problems than even I’ll admit.
Thursday vs. Phoenix will be big.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Lots of people haven't beat Sacramento going away
They won at Utah.
#52
I'm down with the ennui.
But if we sink down into angst and anomie territory, well … just color me disgruntled.
#52
Oh I've felt less optimistic before
Say from about 2003-2005 but then again I wasn’t expecting much either.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
At least the Zach Randolph teams competed
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
come on leeroy, do you really think the Randolph Blazers competed harder than the Blazers did in those last 3 games?
The Blazers have had some really bad efforts this year (Memphis, Utah, New York), but the last 3 games were good efforts, the 9 man Blazers are just not very good right now, because of coaching, injuries and just playing bad play.
#52
And a little bit of bad luck
Seriously, last year that Blake 3 late in OT probably goes in but karma dictates that it come out.
My football karma this year=awesome (go DUCKS), basketball karma=suck.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Maybe 'competed' is the wrong word, but I regularly see teams night in and night out who put their effort towards a goal
The Blazers are very listless. Name the players besides Bayless on this team that you consider hyper-competitive.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
hyper-competetive? nobody.
Joel and Blake compete hard out there. So does Martell. The rest of the Blazers are average in this regard.
#52
Unfortunately those are like the three least-talented guys on the roster
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Though I'd submit that Rudy was ballin' before he went down
Rudy picked up a speed from last year
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, but was it a "productive" speed?
As Hollinger wrote, above
Fernandez, who had become a wild turnover machine in his second season for reasons that aren’t entirely clear
Rudy will get a “pass” for the month of November due his uncertain health, but he hasn’t exactly proven that he will become a dependable ballhandler, going forward (and that was one of the talking points this offseason, Rudy “running” the offense to carve out a role worthy of 25+ mpg)
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I think the idea of Rudy
running the offense, much like Roy does, has to go out the window. Rudy has amazing court vision, but right now this team doesn’t play well with him trying to make play after play on offense. He should go back to doing that only every so often, kind of like a mma figher who uses the superman punch too much, just save it, then if you connect on it, it will turn the fight.
What Rudy has done this year is improve his defense, both on the ball and off the ball, which is something to be proud of. Hopefully he can continue that when he comes back.
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Depends...
I would submit that LMA’s effort vs. Cleveland was pretty awful
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
LMA is a tough case-- he's bad at drawing contact and a bad rebounder, but I don't know how much of that is coaching and how much is personality
I noticed you blamed Varejao’s big game on a bad effort by LMA— which misses that pick and roll defense was a team problem that night— we don’t know if LMA was supposed to trap LeBron (as he was) or just hedge and recover. There was nobody rotating to Varejao but we don’t know who’s fault that was.
If you want to characterize LMA as a low effort player because of his poor rebounding and lack of drawing fouls, I’m cool with that. Similarly Roy could be characterized as a low effort player on defense. That’s about it as far as low effort players on the Blazers. I think this is partly a coaching issue— these guys need to be better held accountable and its possible they are tuning out the coach. Its definitely a problem that these two “stars” don’t give it all on both ends, but its clearly not a worse problem than it was on those Randolph teams.
As for the rest of the Blazers, they are average to above average for NBA players, in my opinion.
#52
Fair enough, but it's not just one circumstance with LaMarcus
and LaMarcus has a lot more going on between the ears than Zach did. LMA frustrates me because he could be an All Star and says he wants to be an All Star but then goes out on the court and disappears for half the game. I don’t know if he tires easily, if it’s Nate’s fault, if he’s just a money player, if he’s not as skilled as I seem to think he is…
In fairness LMA has his moments such as the second half vs. Milwaukee and I gave him big ups for that performance.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
LMA could do more
but sometime I think he’s not being helped by the coaches either… The guy could be getting easy buckets on the break, but we don’t run. When we call his number in halfcourt, it’s always in an iso one on one, instead of getting him the ball on the move. We seem to only call plays for him in the first 5 minutes of each half, then completely go away from him.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
LA
Would get tons of charges if he was given the ball on the move
He hesitates too often, loses the initative, giving the defense time to reset
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
by DucRider on Dec 14, 2009 4:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You are sooo right
I can’t stand watching him catch the ball in the post with no one around him, then instead of attacking immediately, he waits for the defense to recover before starting any sort of move. That has to be in my top 10 of most annoying things about watching the Blazers.
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LMA isn't a "money player," for he's always been a soft man-to-man post defender, ...
slow to rotate on help defense, and weak on the glass. So, rather than harp on LMA for signing that overpriced contract extension, I’m mad at the people who gave it to him — Paul Allen, Kevin Pritchard, et al. — as they should’ve let him play out his rookie contract and let the market dictate his value as an RFA in the summer of 2010. I mean, look, LMA is who I thought he was, which isn’t much.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Kevin Pritchard & hire Dennis Lindsey.
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
LMA doesn't like to stick his nose in there
which is why I thought that KP was going to add a “banger” this offseason. The team still needs a bulldog (at forward) to go with the ballerinas
I guess KP expected Pendergraph and Cunningham would provide the scap and fiestiness?
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Reports are Prendergraph is practicing for the first time this season
Which would mean we’re getting up to 10 players pretty soon.
WOOT!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Kellex is right on about LaMarcus
Which is fine I guess. But sad for us who expected him to use the tools he has for the good of mankind. And wow did we just overpay for him.
Blazer Fan
Brian T. Smith's piece is brilliant. Good Miller bios are hard to score and its not accidental that the one serious guy in the Portland media pack not named Golliver is the one who produced that piece.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Yeah, Andre Miller is definitely an interesting figure regarding his life story.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Kevin Pritchard & hire Dennis Lindsey.
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Everyone should check out Mike Prada's article in its entirety, as it includes in-depth analysis and worth ...
every second I spent my time on reading and watching added the clips. Regarding Jonathan Abrams article, it goes to show how in over his head David Kahn is at the job of GM of the Minnesota T’wolves. With a roster full of players who don’t fit the read and react triple-post offense — especially dribble-drive point guards like Jonny Flynn and Ramon Sessions, as well as offensively inept wing players such as Corey Brewer, Damien Wilkins, Aleksander Pavlovic, and Wayne Ellington — he goes and hires Kurt Rambis. Kahn should’ve instead given Bill Laimbeer the head coaching gig — with former NBA head coach and known taskmaster Reggie Theus as his lead assistant — for he’d’ve installed a more simplistic offense for that roster full of simple-minded players and pushed them to play defense with effort. Y’know, if Kahn so was hell bent on hiring Rambis from the get-go, he never should’ve drafted Flynn. As it is, Flynn will never fit the mold of a sharp-shooting, hard-working off guard at the 1 like former triangle offense entities such as Craig Hodges, John Paxson, B.J. Armstrong, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper, Brian Shaw, Derek Fisher, et al.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Kevin Pritchard & hire Dennis Lindsey.
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
think Blake would fit the triangle?
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
by DucRider on Dec 14, 2009 4:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Bayless apologizes (kind of) on Twitter
My response: “@JBay4 My suggestion is to go out there and take out this frustration on the Kings tomorrow. I believe in J-Bay!”
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Quick just reported...
that Miller will start tomorrow, and Bayless will start seeing many more minutes. Also, that the two of them will play a bit together. This leads to the conclusion that Bayless will be getting the bulk of the backup minutes at the 2 (finally!) and that they will probably both play alongside Roy when he’s playing at the SF spot.
Let’s hope Nate gives it several games at least before making a knee-jerk reaction.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Halle-freaking=lujah!
Early Christmas Presents if true.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I have to see it to believe it
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
I agree...
This is the theoretical lineup that needs to be tried seriously and extensively…
PG Miller
Small Wing Rex
Large Wing Roy
Small Big LMA
Large Big Pryz
with Blake, Marty, Dante, and Juwon off the bench.
And it should be treated like the Blazers are the Lakers and Blake is Adam Morrison………..
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Pendergraph is back in 5 on 5 full court training, too
Bench Juwan! Free Pendy!
That lineup outlined is good as long as Rudy and no second SF is available. At the end of the day Roy shouldn’t play a lot on SF especially on defense, but will have to until the All-Star break.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
To be fair, Juwan has been playing pretty good as of late
I’m just not sold on Pendy as much as Cunningham at this point based on Jeff’s work in college and in summer league. He’s a decent guy with good motor, but I still think he’s an undersized 5…the guys whose stats might look decent but gets killed against bigger man. At least Juwan can pull opposing 5 out of the paint with his perimeter game.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
In my idle daydreams...
I like to think that Pendergraph will grow up to be a taller version of Chuck Hayes. And if that came to be, who wouldn’t want him backing up at the 4/5?
by conspirator5 on Dec 14, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sold on Pendy as much as Cunningham, either
but I’m still hoping he’ll be more effective than Juwan.
And I have noticed Juwan has been playing better.
#52
If that really does happen, that would be an early X-mas present
Likely, Blake still plays more minutes than Rex.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
It's nice to see, assuming Blake moves to the bench.
But I’d be more excited if this were early October.
This isn’t a “Nate just can’t please the fans” thing. Miller’s been the best PG on the team since the Summer. He should have moved into the starting lineup months ago. The situation became overly complicated (really? start Miller with two other guards?) and now has to be worked out.
Yay for Nate making the right decision. Two months late.
I wonder if Webs will start, or if this is a way to move Brandon back to starting at SF and keeping Blake in the starting lineup.
Brandon Roy defending the 3 and Steve Blake playing the 3 on offense is a misuse of personnel.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Kevin Pritchard & hire Dennis Lindsey.
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Since this is a rumor that management told Nate how to handle the lineup and rotation
I suspect it’ll be Miller/Roy/Webs/LMA/Joel.
I didn’t have that info when I posted the earlier note.
That's be my guess, too.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Kevin Pritchard & hire Dennis Lindsey.
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
maybe a trade
Is in the works for Blake
Maybe MIA and parts for Haslem…
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
by DucRider on Dec 14, 2009 4:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I hope that means we're destroying the Suns Thursday
Ya know our injuries are pretty bad, but even with them we still shoulda won at least 3 of those games in the last road trip. We were so close with Blake playing extensive minutes. How much would we have won by if Andre/Bayless played more?
Yeah, it will be tough
Channing can pull Joel outside, I don’t like Joel on Amare. And Joel is not the guy to punish Channing offensively inside, either. With Greg, we could put him on Amare and LMA on Channing, and they have no one who could have stopped Greg on the other end. But Joel has no good matchup for us.
#52
Who'd be the 3 on offense with a perimeter unit of Jerryd Bayless, Brandon Roy, and Andre Miller?
My guess is that it’d be Bayless who spots up in the weakside corner, even though that misusing him.
Right now, Bayless should only receive minutes as the backup 2 and occasional time at the backup 1.
Bayless, however, should only play the 1 if Brandon Roy is at the 2 and Martell is at the 3, for otherwise defense and offensive spacing will become a problem.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Kevin Pritchard & hire Dennis Lindsey.
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
defense and spacing problems
Pretty much sum up ths season
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
by DucRider on Dec 14, 2009 4:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Man that Canzano article sucks
How hard is he trying to create controversy?
Hysteria = Cash for him
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I don't even get what he's trying to do there
Is his premise that the Blazers ruined Greg’s life because they drafted him?
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Now see, I think that's actually a good column.
Many here have wondered if the Blazers training staff is on a par with, say, Phoenix’s.
Look at Rudi, played with pain for a year. he says he’s going to miss games and get a second opinion and he’s on the operating table within 48 hours. Why did he need a second opinion? What was wrong with the first opinion and whose intersests were being served by it?
One of the really startling things I learned on my job, part of which involves negotiating and structuring health care plans, is how long it takes the medical establishment to get up to speed. We are concerned with saving money of health plans so we push for what we call “evidence based” medicine. That is, you spend the first money on care which is proven to be effective. So it turns out that when a new treatment or therapy is shown to be effective the average length of time it takes for that therapy to come into general practice is TEN YEARS. The freaking years on average for a doctor to decide to change the way he treats his patients and do something which is proven to be better. Now since some docs are early adopters, that means some docs are taking 20 years or never getting there at all.
What that tells me is that trusting any doctor to do what is best for you, regardless of their intentions, is naive. That incudes the Blazer doctors.
Read Miller’s comments again and tell me if you think he WANTS to be in Portland.
“If I was to get moved, then I get moved. And it’s early. If I was to get moved, they probably really didn’t want me here anyway. In the papers and all that type of stuff, I was actually the third option. So, to this point, I really just go to work and try to prove myself and try to get into a rhythm. I haven’t even been able to touch the surface of what I can help this team do as a player.”
Does that really sound like a player who is invested in being part of our team, not this team?
"Sometimes that light at the end of the tunnel is a train."
-- Charles Barkley
Andre has a "it's just a business" philosophy towards the NBA, so don't read too much into his possessives...
I don’t really think he fully believes what he says in that regard, but that’s absolutely the way he talks. So one would expect him to use “dispassionate” words about any team, not just the Blazers…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Dec 14, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I call my workplace 'this place' among other crude things
and I still show up here every day ready to work
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
or post on forums, whatever
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
one thing we can all agree on: Miller handles the bench way better than Allen Iverson
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 14, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Andre Miller definitely is a professional, which can't be said for A.I.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Kevin Pritchard & hire Dennis Lindsey.
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
I know you have a bone to pick with Dre, but that's really stretching it.
If the team has really given a chance to best utilize Miller, or even given the half chance that Blake has enjoyed, you might have the legitimacy to go after Miller. However, we’ve seen nothing but reasons for Dre to be unhappy here, from poor job by the coaches to fully utilize him, playing less minutes than less talented players, and best player on the team not wanting to work with you.
If anything, it sounds to me that Miller is trying to be a professional about the situation and want to help this team. At least Roy seems to be more willing to work with Dre nowadays so why not see what he can do when given a proper chance instead of constantly trying to advance your agenda? Like it or not, Miller is part of this team. Even though I’m a Blake detractor, I like Blake and every member of this team. It’s the role and the minutes that he plays that are frustrating me.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
I guess that’s the difference isn’t it? I happen to think Miller is painfully medicore and was only signed because we had cap space and needed to spend it on someone. Some people will point to Nate’s dinner with Andre and go, “That’s not true! Nate really wanted Andre. Remember that dinner they had and all of the great things Nate had to say about him?”
Asked Dec. 4 whether Miller had made any progress with fitting in, McMillan paused before initially offering a one-word response: “No.”
Andre Miller isn’t working out. If he starts over these next few games I see it as a move to bolster his trade value and little more than that. Sometimes hindsight really is 20/20 isn’t it? Try looking at things without rose-colored glasses.
"Sometimes that light at the end of the tunnel is a train."
-- Charles Barkley
Well, we'll agree to disagree, then.
Let’s hope Dre averages 16 and 8 when he begins his starting PG duty to bolster his trade value (for you) and win few games (for me).
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Maybe Nate
Figured out Dre is a better coach the he is, so he had to find a way to get rid of him
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
by DucRider on Dec 14, 2009 5:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I say we tank this season
and draft John Wall!
Things happen for a reason they say, but I say there's a reason things happen.
We have probably already won more games
than one or two teams will get all season.
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