Game 24 Recap: Blazers 99, Cavaliers 104
Well, if you're going to lose that's not a horrible way to lose. The Blazers played an inspired first half in this one. Gone was the listless play we've become semi-accustomed to lately. This team had more list than Santa. One of the things I sometimes forget is that the current incarnation of the Blazers has a little "Big Time" in it. They seemed to know they were on national TV. They knew who they were playing. They played with energy from the tip, taking a lead on the shocked Cavaliers (perhaps feeling a little entitlement to a home win themselves) and protecting it through the first half.
How did the Blazers do it? The supporting cast had a fantastic half. Martell Webster started the game on fire, hitting everything he threw up. It's not like he was taking it one-on-one. The Blazers attacked with Roy early, he drew attention, Martell and LaMarcus were the beneficiaries. In fact nobody but those three scored in the first quarter. When the stars didn't have a shot, Martell stepped up. But the Blazers also threw a few more screens in the offense, with both Roy and Webster curling off of them and hitting briefly-open jumpers as a result.
As the second quarter and the second unit (such as it is) rolled around we saw a ton of off-ball movement. The four players without the rock made it easy for the dribbler to find an outlet. Unsurprisingly the two players who benefitted the most were the two players who know how to function in that kind of offense: Juwan Howard and Andre Miller. Both of those guys have a sense of spacing that their younger counterparts lack. Howard all but killed the Cavaliers all by himself at the start of the second quarter doing nothing but raining down open mid-range jumpers. Miller ramped it up at the end of the second quarter, hitting all kinds of shots including a couple threes. Except for one Roy jumper, one Cunningham jumper, and a couple of Bayless free throws nobody but the geezer twins scored in that second period.
As you can imagine, Cleveland was a little flummoxed. Worse, the Blazers' energy on offense evoked similar play on defense. Joel Przybilla keyed the early momentum with a couple of MONSTER blocks. He was way into this game. Cleveland helped by steadfastly refusing to utilize LeBron James. He destroyed the Blazers every time he touched the ball but he was getting fewer touches than a broke guy at Déjà Vu. It was as if Cleveland had a fully gassed and insured Ferrari in the garage but elected to take the old Taurus instead. Add in that the Blazers weren't turning the ball over much and weren't allowing the Cavs offensive rebounds and you can see why Portland took a 9-point lead into the third quarter. They had outscored Cleveland 31-19 in that second period. Things were looking good.
Except you didn't need Paul Harvey to know what the rest of the story would be.
The Cavaliers announced their presence in the second half by throwing on a full-court press. The intention wasn't so much to stop Portland as rattle them. Perhaps it was also designed to light a fire under their own players. It worked on both counts. Wherever Portland threw the ball a defender seemed to beat it there. Where the Blazers had been playing free and easy, maybe even with a spritely tempo, in the first half now shots started coming later and later in the clock. The same jumpers that were golden early started missing late.
When LeBron hit a three-pointer on Cleveland's first offensive possession, approximately 37 seconds into the half, it was clear that Elvis had arrived at the clam bake. He proceeded to score 9 points in 3 minutes, hitting jumpers over shorter guys. The Blazers threw a zone which worked for a possession or so. Then it was the old "put out the fire" drill which saw Portland defenders running at him from everywhere. All of a sudden here come Anderson Varejao and Shaquille O'Neal.
Pause for interlude.
Shaq was huge in this game. Like around four bills huge. Seriously, you can now see the fat roll underneath the armpits of his jersey. The Cavs wear an "XL" patch on their uniforms. In his case it's missing about six "X's". I'm thinking the plan is to improve his free throw shooting by eventually being able to roll the ball down his stomach and into the hoop. Some guys become broadcasters after their career is done. I guess he's angling to be a blogger.
Now back to your regularly-scheduled programming.
Varejao and Shaq took advantage of Portland's inability to contain LeBron by scoring repeatedly at the cup. Portland eventually tried a smaller, quicker lineup both to protect Przybilla from foul trouble and to move men over to LBJ in a more timely fashion. That made it worse. Przybilla eventually put an end to the Shaq run with a classic heel move: poking him in the eye. Shaq went to the locker room and never came back. Unfortunately the same could not be said of Varejao, who proceeded to kill us with his energy on both ends. He bottled up LaMarcus Aldridge, rebounded all over the place, created turnovers, finished easy plays...he basically gave the Cavs all of the opportunity points they had lacked in the first half.
Meanwhile the Blazers' offense was in confusion. As jumpers missed we became more Roy-centric which had the dual effect of creating points and telegraphing to the Cavaliers where their defense should concentrate and exactly when the ball was coming up. It's not like Roy was hogging it. His teammates couldn't finish what they started early in the game. Martell Webster made like one of those drag racers starting with a huge boom but then blowing out his engine and coasting down the track. Steve Blake never hit anything in this game. LaMarcus got Varejaoed. The only guy who was any help was Andre Miller and that was at the cost of his offense running the same way Roy's did. It wasn't quite enough. Cleveland played sharper. The Blazers turned it over more and got fewer offensive rebounds in the second half. Oh...and LeBron was still cooking.
Portland made it really close, cutting it to 4 with 13 seconds left on a LaMarcus Aldridge three and then scoring again 1 second later off of a Roy steal of the inbounds pass. But Cleveland hit their free throws and Roy couldn't hit the contested, off-balance three that would have kept hope alive. It was as good of a performance as you could have expected but it wasn't good enough for the miracle win.
Here's hoping the Blazers build on tonight. They showed themselves and their opponent that they can be dangerous when they play right. The early offense was something to behold...everything you'd hoped for out of a perimeter game. The total lack of paint points rendered it unsustainable but if the Blazers can pair that movement and unselfishness with even a marginal inside presence they're going to be just fine. And by just fine I mean great. In the meantime while they're waiting for the post presence and more people who can actually hit outside shots to heal they should continue to work that hard. Good things will happen.
Click through for Individual Observations, the Boxscore, Links, Jersey Contest Results, and Final Thoughts.
Individual Observations
Brandon Roy had 23 points but never got steady offensive production until he blitzed the fourth quarter. Even then his run was short-lived. Cleveland figured out what the plan was and that made life too difficult. He was no better than anyone else on the team when matched up against LeBron James. In fact the three-guard lineup in the second half was a defensive disaster, especially when Przybilla wasn't in with them. But he looked more active on defense than he has in some outings. He had 6 assists as well.
LaMarcus Aldridge had three-quarters of a great offensive game tonight. He couldn't get anything going in the fourth. They just shut him down whenever he tried, which in any case probably wasn't often enough as the offense became guard-dominated. He drew 5 free throws and hit them all, which is good. He had 2 rebounds on the night...this on a night when he was one of two guys above 6'9" who saw significant minutes. That's not so good.
Andre Miller played tough out there on offense. He drove, dished, and hit his shots. I have a vague impression that he looks more confident against Eastern Conference teams but that's just an impression. He sure knew how to bake Cleveland's cookies. 8-13 shooting, 20 points, 6 rebounds. He had only 3 assists, taking a more shooting-guard-ish approach to the evening.
Steve Blake had 8 assists. Unfortunately that was about the only obvious good thing that came out of his night. He had 4 turnovers. Although he put himself in decent position many times he also got burned for being too slow or too short on defense. He also missed all 4 shots he took, including 3 three-point attempts. First of all, with the roster the way it is we can't afford to have a guy playing 36 minutes and only attempting 4 shots unless that guy's name starts with "P" and ends with "rzybilla". Discretion is good but you have to be a threat. Second of all...you goose-egged the evening. I hate to presume too much but have a handy piece of advice for both Blake and Webster. If the three-pointer isn't falling your choices are not limited to keep bricking or stop shooting altogether. Specifically there are shots available from 2-4 feet further in which are more comfortable. Obviously you can't step in if defenders are closing out on you but in many cases they're leaving you all alone. Take an easier shot, get it to fall, then try the hard stuff.
Speaking of Martell, 13 points in the first quarter, 0 for the rest of the game. 4 rebounds and 4 fouls otherwise. Obviously defending LeBron can be a discouraging experience. But you've got to keep involved and you've got to work for better shots instead of relying on the ones that the defense gives you most easily. On fire or cold as a witch's bras-trap won't do it.
Joel Przybilla...you made this game for us. 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, including a SPECTACULAR rejection of a Shaq alley-oop dunk. The guy had 2 assists when the offense was flowing freely too. He set the tone.
Hey Juwan...15 points in 16 minutes? Who are you, Jerryd Bayless? I guess this is the one situation where you're glad that the old-guy power forward you got also used to score with some proficiency instead of just rebounding and defending. With half the roster blown away you need the points.
Hey Jerryd...8 minutes? Who are you, Juwan Howard? No, seriously, I thought Jerryd looked pretty good out there tonight. He made a couple of nice assists and stayed turnover-free. More importantly the Blazers intentionally called the last play of the first half for him, giving him the ball to finish the period. He penetrated even when everybody knew that would be coming. He drew two foul shots and converted them. The fact that they set the play for him is a sign of respect. Of course more than 8 minutes would also be a sign of respect. I am not huge on bandwagons as I think we tend to jump the gun and/or not see some subtle things that keep our favorite guys from playing as much as we think they should. However in this case I tend to agree with my colleague Ben. I'm seeing Jerryd hit the few jumpers he takes. I'm seeing him drive with effect. I'm seeing him in the nascent stages of passing the ball and getting the offense. I do understand his effectiveness will be greatest with certain combinations. I understand that those combinations probably won't include Roy or Miller--let alone both--and that you have to give the nod to Brandon and Andre both over Jerryd right now. (In other words it's not just a matter of subbing in Jerryd in Blake's spot.) However no matter what the combinations may be I think you have to find the guy some more playing time, particularly if the other team has no choice but to send a weaker defender against him. Maybe not 30 minutes. Maybe he doesn't even move up in the rotation officially. But if Blake's not hitting his shots anyway, if Miller or Roy can handle the passing, and if Jerryd can do a few other things that Steve can't you have to sneak him in there for a few more minutes.
Final Thoughts
Pretty much said it all above, but I'll reiterate that I appreciated the effort. If the Blazers played every game this way, even with the evening not being perfect, there wouldn't be much cause to complain.
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--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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We play this hard, we’ll win a lot more games than we lose.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I called the play when Lebron blocked Roy
before it happened. But I’m sure lots of people did.
The only reason i shoot 3's is cuz there ain't no such thing as 4's.
by cpt.morgan.ahoy! on Dec 11, 2009 11:09 PM PST reply actions
No it wasn't
When LeBron James blocks a ball on its way down, that is not goaltending. You’re thinking of when other players do it.
"fewer touches than a broke guy at Deja vu"
Come back to Portland. We miss you.
I hope blake can score at least one point next game
I cant wait for this guys contract to expire.
I hope Roy is healthy and not hiding something from the trainers. Or the team from the outside.
He seems to be either sick (flu, etc.) or dinged up. He put up a good effort tonight, but he moves so slow from end to end it’s worrying.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
True
Reading Quick’s game recap, he gives the impression that the entire team is dinged, dented and bruised, but trying to play through it. Maybe it’s the beat writer being especially sympathetic, but it’s hard not to get the impression that something’s slowing him down. Like how Rudy seemed to be less than his usual self before the back problems turned out to be more serious.
The end-to-end slowness has seemed to be the case for quite a few games all season long, though. So I guess it makes one wonder.
Earlier on I had taken it for overall hesitation, more than slowness, or the reality of being double and triple (yea, sometimes quadruple) teamed more regularly, and just getting worn out by defenses that have learned to slow him down. Tonight was different, though.
by HowlinJoeWolf on Dec 11, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
116 minutes in 4 days might also be a factor
He is running himself into the ground.
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
are you kidding?
I hope he DOES have some kind of nagging injury, at least then you could blame his slow jog up and down the court night after night on that as opposed to general lack of interest or motivation. Not to knock the guy or anything, if I just got paid 80 mil I wouldn’t be focused on basketball either
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
oh, but quick did say
that NOW the team has realized how hard they need to play. apparently getting beat down by Memphis, Utah and New York did nothing. That was just practice.
I guess I should be glad they finally figured it out.
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
personally I'd be feeling serious pressure
to not have people write things like you just did. I don’t think he’s slacking off.
I'm confused
are you referring to the brandon roy walks up and down the court on a regular basis seriously watch him sometime oh my god he’s litterally walking comment?
or the blazers are going to start playing hard now comment?
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
that's his game
he’s always been kinda unassuming and methodical, but then all of a sudden—- BAM! he drives right by his man for a layup.
the problem this year seems to be our spacing on offense. with blake and webs being tentative on their three pt shots, and miller’s anemic shooting %, teams are sagging off of the wing players to collapse on Roy. it’s hurting his game.
yes
it’s not the money. people keep blaming it on his max contract, but that’s not fair. The dude seriously wants to win.
by Chadillac5000 on Dec 12, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
A lot of great things. Portland played hard.
Unfortunately, I can’t get over my worries about Roy (who was inefficient again), LMA (who’s rebounding and defensive was pathetic) and the coaching staff’s handling of the PG position which is the most ridiculous thing ever.
#52
how can you say they played hard but in the same breath say LMA got 2 rebounds in 26 min and let varejao run wild?
i mean…i agree they played hard AT TIMES
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 12, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
LMA didn't let Varejao run wild
LMA was showing hard on the pick and roll so LeBron wouldn’t run wild. Varejao rolled as he’s supposed to when the defender does that, and LeBron hit him as he’s supposed to, and LeBron’s man stayed home rather than covering Varejao (don’t know if that was the plan or not, but probably).
The problem is that NO ONE rotated on Varejao. But it wasn’t LMA’s fault. He was playing the pick and roll as Nate has said he wants him to.
Sure, if someone else rotates, there will be an open man, but then Varejao has to make the pass, which is one more opportunity for them to mess up. You always give up something in a well-executed pick and roll. The problem was they never had to get past the first two options.
#52
ex point
You have to rotate over to a guy that is 3 feet from the hoop – Jeez Loise – do these guys have any concept of defense? Webster, hello- wake the Hell up and get over there!
Roy looks slow and uncoordinated. On the floor tonight you would laugh
to hear him and LeBron mentioned in the same breath. They looked miles apart. miles and miles.
by raoulduke on Dec 11, 2009 11:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
They always were miles apart
Here’s the deal, though. Roy’s teammates are either helping him too much or not at all. When guys are hot then the ball is going to them and they’re shooting. That means the ball is not coming back to Brandon unless and until he takes over, which he usually does only when others have failed. But at that point the defense can collapse on him with impunity because the other shooters have gone ice cold. I’m not entirely disagreeing with your assessment that he looks shaky. Last year he seemed to dominate even when this happened. But at the same time it’s looking worse than it is…or rather reflecting on him more individually than it probably should.
Again I point to the L*kers with Kobe. They have some dominating players in Bynum and Odom but everybody else on the team knows when to get Kobe the ball and knows their job if they receive it from Kobe’s hands in turn. Derek Fisher, Luke Walton…those kind of guys. And frankly if Odom or Bynum get too enthusiastic Kobe will just cool them off. Sometimes it seems like our whole team is full of guys who either need the offense to center around them or can’t play. Only one guy on a team can truly hold that role and ours is Brandon.
—Dave
if only steve blake could slap on a headband and turn into mo williams
if only LA could play half as hard as anderson “cut that ridiculous haircut” varajao.
If only Martell could practice dribbling. Cause, you know, the game of basketball requires dribbling from time to time.
if only brandon was as good as kobe and lebron…then maybe he would have his own puppet commercial
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
But other than that you like this team?
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
haha yeah
well, not martell, he’s a great person, just not a basketball player. he should try, I dunno, real estate or something.
I actually like steve blake. I think he’s be a great backup. just wish the coach would put him in a position to be successful. as in, the backup position.
broy is awesome when he wants to be. hes not the team though. I love the blazers, I love most of the players. but after these players move on, I’ll still love the team
oh, and my fav player has a broken patella. I’m gonna be a little bitter for a while
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
We've seen Roy is very limited
Once the league figured out his bread and butter and the refs stopped falling for the yell, it is exposed that Roy lacks the explosiveness and or the dead-eye shooting he needs to be a tier 1 star.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 12, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I was happy with the effort but my frustration
With the sacred minutes for St Steve gets worse ever game
by southern oregon on Dec 11, 2009 11:39 PM PST reply actions
Now that Dave is on the Free Bayless train, how long can it take until Miller starts and Jerryd gets a few more minutes?
I suppose Dean is even more cautious with his lineups than Nate, who already hinted at a lineup change that got postponed when Rudy got hurt and he had to go to the operating room himself.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
when Nate eventually bends to the will of blazersedge
I think we should get at least a shout out.
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
effort = varejao career night?
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 12, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I dont get your logic-- a good player has a great game means there wasn't effort?
Does Juwan’s good game mean Cleveland was’t trying?
Varejao and James were dominating on the pick and roll— that’s either a coaching issue (telling LMA to hedge hard on LeBron but not having a good strategy to stop Varejao) or an execution issue ( the guards were supposed to fight through the picks, LMA was supposed to recover better or the rotation was supposed to be there from someone else). LMA didn’t rebound or defend well, but I didn’t see this as an effort issue.
#52
Good recap
LMA got destroyed on defense by WHO?! Sure, you don’t want LeBron to beat you but you but you can’t let another guy roam free for half the game either.
I don’t know if it’s the coaches or the players but the team philosophy right now is to win by the jumper and make incredibly difficult shots. We came out on fire and shot as well as you could hope but, as the announcers said, you aren’t going to survive 48 minutes with an offense that only shoots outside jumpers. Did the inside-out game plan break with Greg’s knee?
As for the PG situation I can only think that Nate decided to hold steady until they get home and then make the switch to Miller starting. Even without shifting the starting lineup I don’t understand keeping Blake out there and Bayless on the bench. If the kid is good it’s time to let him play and if he’s not he needs to either leave or get some floor time so when his number IS called he’s prepared. I know, it’s crazy to think that a bench player might be called into action without warning, but maybe we should keep him sharp just in case.
There’s just no excuse for this rotation anymore, I don’t care if Roy and Blake have matching BFF tattoos, it’s time for them to start seeing other people.
Agreed
I think Nate wants to be the one to make the change and not an assit coach
How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.
I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!
by bouzi on Dec 12, 2009 12:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
This time
The players will come to the game waving signs they made of their favorite posters. Can’t you just picture Joel sitting at the kitchen table with a jar of glitter, making up a sign that says “B-Edge U R #1”
by JonathanPDX on Dec 12, 2009 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Or we are 4 days from trading Miller?
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
trading Miller would be a bad sign,
in that it broadcasts KP’s acceptance of the current lineup “strategy”.
Trading Nate, on the other hand….
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
hey dave, just wanted to point out
quick wrote in his recap that lamarcus hurt himself in the 3rd quarter, which is probably why we saw that disappearing act in the fourth that you mentioned.
I saw the ankle thing
But I assume it’s sink or swim. If the dude can’t play you can’t have him out there.
—Dave
I saw LMA hopping around on one leg too
Not good, but if he’s hurt let him sit and get better rather than making things worse…
Also, MARTELL WEBSTER please pull your head out and shoot the ball like you have a pair.
That helped the Mavs' Carroll. He got Lasik surgery in the offseason, and now, well, um, okay he still doesn't hit the ocean when falling out of a boat. But he looks funny with headband and goggles.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Did you notice
that after Shaq got fouled and couldn’t see….
…. he made both free throws.
#52
LA sits...that would put us at how many able bodies for milwaukie?
and despite Juwan’s stat line, I’m not sure you can’t count him as an “able body.”
steve blake may see minutes at the center position. I mean, he’s GOT to be out on the floor, right?
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
Didn't get blown out, that's nice but....
The success the Blazers had early was largely a result of the same kinds of jumpers they take every game going in more often. That just validates an approach that isn’t going to work 48 minutes a game, every game. When Cleveland turned up the pressure in the second half and those shots started clanging off the rim, the Blazers got predictably stagnant and confused again, heaving up no-chance shots at the end of the shot clock. The ESPN announcers could see it in one game. Why can’t the Blazers coaches figure it out?
They did get a little more drive and kick going in this game, mostly in the second quarter with the reserves. Why they don’t pick and pop more often is a mystery to me. If you want to live and die with perimeter shots, why not shoot open ones?
I spent much of last season groaning whenever Bayless entered the game, but his recent play has completely changed my mind about him. He is finally making good decisions with the ball, and isn’t fouling 35 feet from the basket on every other possession. As usual, he was effective in his eight minutes tonight. When the Blazers bog down and can’t get anything going to the rim, like they did in the second half, why do they refuse to play Bayless? Because Blake had a good rhythm going? Um, not in this game. Because they don’t want to give up size on defense? They play small lineups all the time now (and did even before Oden got hurt). I don’t know the reason.
One more thing: just because Andre Miller gets lucky and gets a couple of 3’s to go in once in a while does not make them a good idea. He does not resemble the player we were supposedly signing. He plays just like every other Blazer point guard (with the possible exception of Sergio Rodriguez). He walks the ball up 99% of the time, throws it around the perimeter, and jacks up perimeter shots. If I have to watch the pump fake dance he does when he gets the ball with a couple of seconds left on the shot clock one more time I’m going to break my television. I know it’s a savvy, veteran move to do it, and it’s not always his fault he’s in that position, but it happens so often it’s like the Blazers have it diagrammed as a play.
your andre miller observation
makes me think the whole walk the ball up, hold it until theres 4 seconds left then jack up a contested jumper offense is a COACHES thing.
Thats just not Andre Miller’s game. Its never been his game. The guy lives to push the tempo and operate a free flowing offense, you saw it occasionally when he would make a cut when Oden had the ball in the low post for a lay up while the other 3 blazers stood on the 3 point line. Thats just not gonna be there anymore though.
Actually when I think about it, I think Nate has actually said that their offensive scheme is to get a quick shot off in transition (hahahahahahahahaha) or hold the ball and shoot later in the clock. I’m not exactly sure what Nate is trying to accomplish by adding the stress of fighting a red buzzer in addition to NBA defenses but I hear he’s a really good coach so I’m not supposed to question him.
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
Can you add "Melancholy" to the poll?
That would be my pick.
Shoot jumpers late in the clock. That has been the philosophy for a couple of years. We’re not going anywhere with it but with the injuries there is even less chance of changing the strategy. LA is our best threat inside but that isn’t happening much.
If that is the strategy I miss Travis (and Rudy). I miss Travis’ unpredictability – he garnered the viewer’s attention and frequently surprised – sometimes pleasantly, other times not.
put a body on 'em
yeah, the poll is a bit confusing
I mean, if you look at the game in a vacuum you should be angry. but after the last few stinkfests (and yes, that “win” in indiana was a stinkfest), I suppose you should be pretty darn enthused!
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
there has been no evolution this year
Greg was the hope. Now we are back to the future. Sigh . . . major tempering of my enthusiasm.
If we would just play a more fluid game – cutting and passing, using all five players – I’d be much happier, even if we lost a few more games.
put a body on 'em
HOLY CRAP!!!
you just came up with the blazer’s next big marketing slogan!
forget “rise with us”
BACK TO THE FUTURE!!!
I like it.
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
I hate it. Can we learn a few new tricks?
I thought the jump-shooting thing was an easy-enough system for a young team trying to get a foothold. Continuing to use it as your main strategy is a lack of team development.
put a body on 'em
love it or hate it, its pretty spot on
so far, this season has been a step back. I don’t even think you could say it was a side step.
the good news is, its still early, theres still time for growth by the end of the season when we start getting players back. I mean, the season is still basically scrapped in the championship sense but progress CAN be made.
For instance, I am hoping Andre Miller and Broy will eventually stop running into each other on offense.
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
yeah, that would be an improvement to "Heal with us"
posted on a picture of our crutch filled rehab unit watching behind the bench.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
The Bucks coaching staff are licking their chops right now
Preparing to play the most predictable offense in the NBA
by southern oregon on Dec 12, 2009 12:26 AM PST reply actions
if you would have told me at the beginning of the season
that beating Milwaukie would be a difficult but huge win for us, I would have slapped you. now, I can only just nod and mutter under my breathe
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
breath, breathe, which is it?
whatever, I’m muttering.
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
The offense was good in the first half but tired legs do make shooting % drop
That is not an excuse but an observation that every player on the team is playing far more minutes than at the start of the season when we had more healthy bodies.
"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."
Its important for JB and Dante to rest their legs
by southern oregon on Dec 12, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions
Blake's been workin' way to hard,
I’m concerned about him. Time for a break.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
No no, I didn't mean that kind of a break !
I meant a REST. Not wishing an injury on anyone.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Roy and Miller....
ARE STILL RUNNING INTO EACH OTHER ON THE COURT!!!!!
yeah its almost amazing how poorly they play together
yeah, they will get better and yeah they should have already had the necessary time to figure it out (pre season and every doggone game up until this point) but seriously, you guys play in the nba. figure out where you’re supposed to be.
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
I think miller needs to stay out of roy's way in the final 3 min. of the ball game.
by nwballerboy on Dec 12, 2009 12:34 AM PST up reply actions
everyone should probably stay out of roy's way at that point
The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave
I'd love some insight on this...
I used to think that there was a bad vibe between Rudy and Roy. But that $1 tip at your Deja Vu club compared to Darius’s “Making it Rain” compared to the bad vibe I feel like I see between Roy and Miller.
They’re professional about it. but they look exactly like married people in a failed marriage putting up a front in public that everything’s fine. No eye contact, emotionless high-fives… doesn’t look good to me.
Buck Williams for the hall of fame
They remind me of Melo and Iverson playing together
They can’t mesh and make each other better, so they just take turns with the ball in their hands and the they turn into a “I’m getting mine” team. When Dre goes on a scoring spurt Roy is either not in the game or doesn’t touch the ball. When Roy is doing well Dre is tring to find a spot he can hit a jumper from but where Roy won’t literally run into him. They aren’t being selfish in the sense that they’re trying to get points, but they still aren’t sacrificing the way they play at all so it’s still just as selfish. It’s been said a million times, but Dre can’t reliably hit 3s to play off Roy and Roy isn’t good/can’t/won’t play run off screens and play off Dre. I guess you can’t just take two ball dominating players and hope it works out.
Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.
by terryisntbald on Dec 12, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
I can only hope Bayless gets a little more run
maybe it will happen after having a game tonight. Not holding my breath though.
put a body on 'em
What's Bayless got to do to get some more playing time?
With everything that’s happened so far this year, I just want to see Bayless get some minutes. He brings excitement and energy to the court every time he steps foot on it. I kept thinking to myself that the one silver lining to all the injuries the team has incurred is that it would give some of our younger guys, like Bayless and Cunningham, more opportunity to develop. Bayless has been playing well all year and what does he get on the first night of a back to back when we only have 9 active players? 8 minutes. How does that happen? I mean, I know Blake played amazing in his 36 minutes (sarcasm), but really?
Blake may be out of here at the end of the year and Miller will probably be gone a year later. Unless we get a significant upgrade at point, Bayless will be the man after that. I think we owe it to him to give him a shot. He’s worked hard enough for it.
Free Bayless.
Get Well Oden
Free bayless! So we can become Blake-Less
by nwballerboy on Dec 12, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
We have become the Blakers,the face of the franchise
by southern oregon on Dec 12, 2009 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
I can just hear the intro at the RG
Ladies and gentlemen here are your Portland Fail Blakers
by southern oregon on Dec 12, 2009 12:48 AM PST up reply actions
I shouldn't write this (bad karma)
but if Blakey was the next guy on the injury list it wouldn’t bother me.
put a body on 'em
I never wish an injury upon a player
but I’m often hoping for something like the flu. For example, H1N1. Too harsh to wish this upon Blake? I feel dirty writing this, but everything would be right in the world if this were to happen.
Get Well Oden
it's not his fault he's playing so much
he works extremely hard, but his talent is limited. he’s just being overused right now.
if you’re gonna wish injury on someone, make it the coach. er. wait… assistant coach.
BTW, I don't fault Blake for it
I agree he works hard and is a good team player. But if he were to show his true desire for the team to play better he’d tell the coaches he shouldn’t be starting.
Is this against the nature of any competitive athelete – absolutely. Do I actually expect him to do it – absolutely not. For one thing he’s playing for a contract.
put a body on 'em
Don't hate the player, hate the game
or I guess for Blake it’s “Don’t hate the player, hate the guy who wants to play him all 48 minutes.” Blake is either going to be one of the best backups or worst starters in the league and this team is more comfortable with the first option.
Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.
by terryisntbald on Dec 12, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
No kidding. But I'm legitimately worried about it.
After all, “Steve’s a pro” and “he makes Brandon comfortable”.
put a body on 'em
He needs to dribble around aimlessly more, preferably under the basket and back out
(Open fist #4)
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 12, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
You're Hubie Brown.
You’re watching the Portland team play in a nationally televised game. They’ve got, what, eight or nine guys who can suit up. Nine guys. Now, nobody expects that much out of them at this point, and that’s just the way it is. But they come out, they play hard and they compete.
And they get contributions from everybody. I’ve been around this game since the time of the dinosaurs: and I I don’t know what it is, but I just love this kid Bayless. Cunningham hits a shot. He’ll hit that shot all day. Andre Miller, he shows you what he can do. Howard, it’s just great to see. Pryzbilla is doing a great job in the middle, blocking shots and just being a presence. I know this is an ESPN game, and we’re supposed to be mostly talking about LeBron. With maybe a break to talk about the Tiger Woods situation. But you’ve got to appreciate what Portland has done here. I’m going to talk in the second person about it, because it’s just great.
So you’ve got to give them a ton of credit. A ton of credit.
by HowlinJoeWolf on Dec 12, 2009 12:45 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
HowlinJoeWolf
For extra credit,Who was Chester Burnett?
by southern oregon on Dec 12, 2009 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
Well
A gypsy woman told his mother before he was born, that she had a boy child coming, and that he was gonna be a sun of a gun.
Okay, so he didn’t write that one, but I’m pretty sure he played it more than once.
by HowlinJoeWolf on Dec 12, 2009 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
Siting on top of the world,covered by Cream
Im not sure that came out the way I meant it
by southern oregon on Dec 12, 2009 1:12 AM PST up reply actions
Ok the old school and somewhat arrogant Blues player whom I met once
Howling Wolf
by southern oregon on Dec 12, 2009 1:03 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
Howling Wolf crossed with short-lived Blazer center and lovable stiff Joe Wolf = Howlin Joe Wolf. I’d like to think they’re meant to be a pair.
Never met the real Howlin’ Wolf, so I can’t speak to how arrogant he is. Sounds like there’s a good story there, though! Definitely heard plenty of his music. Don’t mean to get the thread off topic, so back to our regularly scheduled Blazer talk? Appreciated your stuff on the last community podcast, by the way, if I’m thinking of the right poster.
I just missed the opportunity to throw five more Hubie Brown style “come on!” lines in there.
by HowlinJoeWolf on Dec 12, 2009 1:20 AM PST up reply actions
I did meet him once when I was a young Bluesman and he was a little bitter that
his hands just could not do it any more but was encouraging to me,not a bad guy
by southern oregon on Dec 12, 2009 1:33 AM PST up reply actions
ok, so where's you music on line ?
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Bench scoring
The Blazers are in a tough place in that their 2 best bench scorers play the same position, and the starter at said position is getting at least 30 minutes most nights. Our 3-guard and 2 PG lineups get KILLED defensively by good teams (see tonight), but its the most reliable scoring option when Martell is cold and/or Roy is sitting. Blake is hesitant shooting the 3, I only watched about 20 minutes of the game today and saw 2 or 3 instances where he hesitated, then passed up a rhythm 3 to do something else with the ball. NOT his game. At least Bayless and Miller stick with what they’re good at and trust their game (except Miller’s sudden desire to shoot 3s in Mo Williams’ face). I think I like the idea of starting Miller and haing Bayless being our primary bench scorer (seeing a bump to 15-25 mpg). Blake can close quarters/games when the ball is going to be in Roy’s hands and we need spot shooters. Before he separated his shoulder last year we had started to see a LOT of that offense, and to pretty good effect. While he clearly isn’t shooting as well as he was last year, I think simplifying his role would go a long way towards restoring his confidence. I know this sounds counter intuitive, but if his ONLY focus is hitting jumpers when defenses collapse on Roy, he should get better with practice, yes? I hope we only play 3 guards or 2 PGs with Joel on the floor, and then only as a chaos inducing wrinkle (like Bayless’ early role this year). Exceptions might be against a team that lacks a slasher at the 2 (Milwaukee comes to mind).
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in case there weren’t enough already
Its been 1 1/4 of a season, but I can say now for the 1st time: Free Bayless
the latest Blake-Bayless situation has become completely unbearable
I don’t know. Maybe the only guy that would stop this is not Bayless, not coaches, not Miller, not Roy… but Blake himself.
Maybe tomorrow when he wakes up and looks at himself in the mirror he will realize how terrible a starting PG he has become this season. His conscience will not let him occupy that position anymore and demand his coach to pull him from starting lineup.
Yes. It’s gonna be the only way to resolve this frustrating situation.
The only guy that can stop Blake from playing
is Kevin Pritchard! He has the power to trade Steve for at least a 2nd round pick. At this point in the season, I would take that deal easy. As long as KP can’t find a team to give up a player to get Blake of course.
anderson varejao
anderson varejao was the reason blazers lost this game, not lebron james. he got so many second half dunks or finger rolls it was crazy. everything from uncontested screen rolls, offensive rebounds, to catching 30 foot skip passes from williams. it truly looked like noone was guarding him, as almost all of his looks had no blazer player near. anderson is an energy guy, but this was ridiculous. looked like aldridge didnt even attempt to box him out either. you to body someone like this and maintain contact.
as an aside, the blazers would have been able to weather 30-40 points from james and still win. even more points from williams and win, but no way do they give up 20+ to a marginal energy guy with maybe six foot range and win. anderson was the hero for the cavaliers, not james.
He will always kill a guy like LMA who takes possessions off and goes half speed on others
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 12, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
LMA 2 reb in 36 min lol...
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 12, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
He's stealing from the team
When they gave him that contract I thought it was 1 or 2 mil more a year than he deserved, but it was worth it to lock him up. Now? It looks like he’s 10 mil a year overpaid and we got robbed. A lot of people (including me) have said how the Miller signing was a mistake, but LMA could end up costing us in the long term. We’ve committed that our second best player is just a jump shooting specialist who doesn’t even shoot 3s.
Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.
by terryisntbald on Dec 12, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Angry
at the way the coaching staff completely mucks up the pg rotation.
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
Let's be honest... that game was never really in doubt
I thought the effort was ok, good in spots and nonexistant in others. Letting Verejao go nuts tells me that our big guys weren’t hustling like they should – LMA in particular but he is what he is and we’re stuck with him now.
Blake is a joke, I don’t get it at all. If his shot is on he’s adequate, if it’s not he is absolutely TERRIBLE.
Bayless is the one guy on this team who looks like he wants to compete and …8 minutes?
I hate myself for still watching this team.
Blazer Fan
I'm glad to see realism has finally come to the masses.
Of course, it could just be because of the Oden injury, but this time last year, if the Blazers lost a game like this to Cleveland, the fan poll results would have been flipped. All season last year alot of BEdgers were way to hyped about their team, calling for a Finals appearance right off the bat.
Maybe some did this year too, but it seems the Portland Bandwagon has been a little less noisier this season.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
Blake has photos of Nate doing something BAD
OR we are giving him all the PT possible to show ANYTHING for trade bait. Right now I’d trade him straight up for a bottle of Tylenol Gel Caps.
Given our injuries
A bottle of Tylenol Gel Caps may have more positional value than Steve Blake.
In other news, Al Davis just drafted a bottle of Five Hour Energy.
“Greg was the hope. Now we are back to the future. "
At least we learned two positive things about Oden before the new injury:
1). He’s made big strides in developing an offensive ability to go along with his already world-class rebounding and blocking.
2). He’s cutting down his fouls to the point where he can play extended minutes
Once this injury is healed, IF he can avoid being injured much in the rest of his career he will be one of the best centers in the NBA.
It takes an incredible amount of patience both for fans and no doubt for Oden himself to ride out these injuries and wait for a brighter future. But this year, Oden did give us a glimpse of that future.
inventory of blazer problems
Well, let’s see where we stand with the Blazers:
1). a plague of injuries
2). even when healthy, team chemistry is all screwed up
3). most of the team playing substandard relative to their past performance and/or expectations
4). The heart of their basketball strategy, the “snooze offense”, is going over like a ton of bricks
Other than that, everything is hunky dory.
We are now looking at a situation where to be successful this year the Blazers need a hail mary.
Only one I can think of: Patty Mills turns out to be able to play soon, and turns out to be another Aaron Brooks.
If anyone says, hey that’s ridiculous, please remember I used the term “hail mary”.
Encouraged....as long as Nic returns
His defense on lebron could have produced a better outcome.
Shaq’s eye is karma for the ball to the face.
Go Joel !!!!!
Go Blazers !!!
"That's just how I get down"........ Andre Miller

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