Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Cavaliers--Post-Game Edition
by Dave on Dec 11, 2009 7:30 PM PST
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PrintCommiserate (with hopefully not too much emphasis on the "misery" part) on tonight's game right here as you await the official recap. Please stay respectful of each other and the site as you do so.
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no it wasn't
goaltending doesn’t count if it’s lebron.
meanwhile: woah!!!! 5 points in 2 seconds
The refs missed the call.
Cavs should have been awarded 2 points for that Lebron goaltend.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I think it was an offensive foul on Roy.
Put Lebron on the line for the And1
Basket's that way, Chief!
-90's Milk Commercial
by OneTrickPony on Dec 11, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
martell
had another nonexistent second half. he is the most inconsistent player in the league. its getting old
I was pretty excited for Martell
for 12 minutes
Start Miller.
by RenoBlazerFan on Dec 11, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
and the 8 times varejao slipped behind him for the easy dunk...
Top 5 songs near and dear to my ears:
The Mars Volta - L'via L'viaquez
Regina Spektor - Back of a Truck
Death Cab for Cutie - Little Bribes
Joanna Newsom - Monkey & Bear
Devendra Banhart - Long Haired Child
Blazers should trade to get Martell
he could really help this team right now.
Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU. Free Dennis Dixon!!!
I cna't feel bad about this game
This is by far the best we’ve played this year and only the second time (Houston game) I’ve seen the fight we were famous for last year.
I BELIEVE AGAIN!
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Kidding me?
We made a strong effort, but it could’ve been won if we hadn’t had some awful coaching blunders – mainly the one everyone keeps complaining about.
If we play that hard
We will win A LOT of games this year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Blake
Is only good in the 4th when we’re winning. He’s the master of the Dagger trey.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Maybe that's it.
Blake’s destiny is not to be our starting point guard—even when his shot is on, he’s marginal.
His destiny is to be—our Robert Horry!!!!!
Now only if we could get into the finals…
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 11, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
he did it.....
blake managed to do play 36 minutes, score no points and turn the ball over by stepping out of bounds with the ball.
he deserves something special for that i think.
also playing all our key guys 38 minutes tonite was dumb. we’ll now be completely exhausted for the milwaukee game.
No it wasn't
If we had won this game it would have been such a boost, even the way we went down is a boost.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
well he did some good things...he scrapped.
Oden fan for life
by dario argento on Dec 11, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
Blake was fine in the first
He really was. He just sucked at the end.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Can we start Miller yet?
Please… Pretty Please…
by Boss_Raptor on Dec 11, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
need to scrap more next time
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
Over/under on Bayless' minutes in the 4th quarter = 4 minutes
If you had the under, you win.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
same old stories
Roy extremely inefficient, not showing up at all until the 4th quarter.
LMA with a pathetic effort on the glass and on D
Webster extremely inconsistent and bad on balance
Nothing from Blake yet he still leads the PGs in minutes
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Miller was great and Howard turned back the clock 10 years. Maybe it would have translated into a win if we’d played Blake less. Maybe not. Roy and LMA not being productive enough is still the biggest issue.
#52
by jksnake99 on Dec 11, 2009 7:41 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
funny how close this game was
considering according to that analysis we should have lost by 30
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Ok
a couple 3’s by Miller and a very nice first half from Howard made it close… whatever you say JK
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
no
that doesn’t mean the team can’t otherwise be productive and efficient
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
this was a really good effort. for the most part, the Blazers played hard and well.
Its just frustrating to see the same things crop up again. The PG situation is a bad joke and our big money guys aren’t doing enough to earn it. Its concerning.
#52
ok fair enough
but let’s apply some perspective. The team has suffered serious blows due to injuries… mass injuries to key players. Roy and Lamarcus are likely over-compensating which is being counter productive at times. We just took a good Cav’s team with arguably the greatest player on the planet to the wire and nearly pulled it out.
The PTB are hurt and nothing is going to make us as good as we hoped to be at the start of the season. We’ve got to keep our chins up and stay positive.
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
not sure how to answer this.
1 game does not suddenly prove Miller can hit 3s and Howard can give you 15 point halves.
#52
I suggest you look up the word aberration in the dictionary.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
He's baaaaaaaaaaack! Where you been you aberration you? :)
I had to give Jake bullpucky because you weren’t here.
#52
ummmm
actually that is exactly what it proves. lol
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 11, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
The fact that they almost never do that
Means it is something you can’t rely on regularly.
Andre can score a lot, and do it well, but ya can’t rely on him to make several 3’s in a game because he is a 20% three point shooter for his career, and this season.
#52
i know
i was just joshin with him cause he was getting a bit riled up and not fully thinking about his phrasing. question though: if a made 3 pointer could somehow save your life and you could chose between blake or miller to take the shot, who would you choose? if this happened tomorrow, i would be pretty damn scared choosing blake. which is endlessly depressing
by gotyourselfastew on Dec 13, 2009 1:56 AM PST up reply actions
Well I haven't seen any sign Howard can score consistently all season
Miller could likely put up significantly more points with an expanded role, on the other hand
I could expect Miller to average 17.
He did it for the past two seasons on a low possession team.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 11, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
The 4th should've been Roy's most inefficient quarter.
He was playing 1 point for 1 shot up to that point.
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I really fear Roy is sick or injured and not telling the team. Or the team not telling the public.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
He did this a lot last year
He’d have no points at the half and go off in the seocnd half.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Why assume that?
I’ll take Roy at his word. He’s just not playing well for his standards.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Because he runs literally half as slow as LaMarcus up and down the court
Even Miller who isn’t a runner is going faster
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
When I picture Roy, I never picture him running hard.
He’s never been that type of player.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Yeah, but now he doesn't seem to have that speed anymore at all
I mean, he had trouble getting around Shaq and Andy at times. And he doesn’t sprint in the middle of the floor at all.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
LMA could not stop Varajao
Start Miller.
by RenoBlazerFan on Dec 11, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
Because he was helping other people defend their guys?
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yeah, I'll go along with that
Start Miller.
by RenoBlazerFan on Dec 11, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
And the thing I will give you is that LMA needs to pull down more rebounds.
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LMA is a weak man-to-man interior defender and inept weakside help defender, although those of ...
whom who wrongly defend his Charmin soft style of play will argue that he’s a solid perimeter defender off of switches. I hate to break it to those folks, but here it goes anyway. When the best defensive quality of a 4 is his work on the perimeter, that means he’s a sieve on that end of the court.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
watch... pryz wont get any highlights for the blocks on shaq...
please smack me and tell me im wrong
He'll get highlighted for his Shaq foul.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
It was nice hearing differnt commentators tonight, hubie is cool
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
We secretly signed him last year for 4 tons of candy
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
by xedubx on Dec 11, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Hubie finally "got us" when he covered our blowout of the Nugs last game of the season last year
been good to us ever since.
Hubie is the most knowledgable announcer in the game.
I LOVE hearing that guy do a game. He really understands it and can explain it better than anyone
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
he's often pretty far off with his player analysis though
For example, he called LMA a good rebounder who shoots a good percentage at the top of tonight’s broadcast.
#52
Portland drops to 7th place, OKC half game back
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Don't care
Beat the Bucks, beat Sacramento.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
tougher to do that when...
you play roy 40 minutes on the 1st night of a back to back in a game you should have known you weren’t going to win.
of course holding back the starters minutes is the sort of thing that only good coaches like greg popovich do.
WE WERE UP 12!
Seriously. Now I don’t blame us for giving up that lead because that has been the Cavs MO (start slow finish late).
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
we lost...
that’s the only stat that matters. it was very forseeable that we weren’t going to win. like i said. holding back starters is not something our coaching staff is smart enough to do.
most coaches don’t understand managing the season for managing the game. our staff isn’t alone in this mind you, but the use of minutes tonite was not smart.
Hindsight is 20/20
As close as this game was, I think they would have been crazy not to try to get the win.
not hindsight
i was advocating limting starter minutes before the game started. you have to plan to do this sort of thing.
do you think greg popovich is crazy for doing this? he has won 4 titles and he does this regularly.
Oh well, still a good effort
I am really excited to see Milwaukee. They’ve really picked it up this year.
Joel Robinson: "What about you Crow? What do you want for Christmas?"
Crow T. Robot: "I want the power to decide who lives and who dies."
by randommanthefirst on Dec 11, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions
If Bayless is well rested
then he shouldn’t be tired of sitting on the bench. The whole point of being well rested is to not be tired.
So are we, but I still like watching us
Joel Robinson: "What about you Crow? What do you want for Christmas?"
Crow T. Robot: "I want the power to decide who lives and who dies."
by randommanthefirst on Dec 11, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
OKC will pass us when the schedule evens out. Without 4 key guys, we aren't as good as they are.
#52
Sigh...I think you may be right.
Oden fan for life
by dario argento on Dec 11, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
I'll give them top 15.
It really depends on what you mean by “right now.”
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In your opinion.
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Hollinger weights the last ten games heavier than the others, correct?
(I may be wrong)
I agree that they are doing well, but there are ten teams I’d put above them.
L.A.
Celtics.
Orlando.
Dallas.
Phoenix.
Clevgoaltend.
Atlanta.
Denver.
Houston.
Miami.
I wouldn’t put the Blazers above them, though.
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okc destroyed miami
in their own building.
how can you put them above them?
agree with all the others on that list.
Yeah, but then I have to put the Blazers above OKC. :(
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sorry ... couldn't resist
I love ya JK but I hate ya at the same time LOL
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
by bow4meow on Dec 11, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
so were we in December 2007.
Young teams will get tired of playing hard defense every night.
get well soon, big guy.
#52
in 2007...
we did not beat a lot of good teams nor did we beat good teams on the road much at all. okc has done all of those things this year. their schedule has been brutal.
the 13 game win streak, as great as it was, featured only one quality road win – in denver as i recall.
OKC is also fools gold.
No interior offense or defense. Westbrook and Green playing out of position. Regular season success means absolutely nothing as we have all realized with the Blazers.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
i'd take 2nd round right now
wouldn’t you?
2nd round, 1st round, no playoffs.
Don’t matter. It’s about how the team wins and loses.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I think they'll hit the wall like we did two years back
When teams finally take them seriously.
I truly think that if we can hang tough til Rudy comes back, we’ll be in good shape.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I'm a bit concerned about how long we stay over .500
Tough schedule coming up. It would be great to see the team pull together to overcome injuries, but so many people are missing.
We are playing like a classic .500 team at the moment. Win one, lose one, win one, lose one, …
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
take a look at the schedule from 12/17 to 12/25
win won / lose won during that stretch would be impressive. i don’t see it happening.
I'm not worried about playoffs or seeds.
The team has deep schematic and coaching issues dating back a few years now. I’ve been saying this for as long as I have been on Blazersedge. This season was bound to happen sooner or later.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
If everyone was healthy we wouldn't be talking about coaching issues.
We would be talking about how awesome Batum and Oden are and how glad we are KP swung a Blake+Outlaw deal for so and so.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 11, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Roy
Oden
Aldridge
Miller
Batum
Rudy
Outlaw
Bayless
Webster
Blake
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 11, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
I meant to say last season’s top six. Joel is debatable, I’ve said four of our top six or seven elsewhere. Travis is only a scorer but his ability to create ugly, semi-effective shots is apparently necessary in Nate’s offense.
get well soon, big guy.
#52
Four of top seven sounds right to me
3 starting level talents, 1 bench scorer… it hurts. Bad.
Plus 1 was being our best player for half a game each night.
#52
Joel Przybilla, who's having a solid year defensively according to +/- metrics, is undeniably ...
more valuable from an on-court perspective than Travis Outlaw.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
this is true. I just think that Travis’ skill set is absolutely necessary in Nate’s iso offense. You have to have a safety valve who hits flaming bag shots 40% of the time.
get well soon, big guy.
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
I am more concerned that Rudy,JB and maybe a few others hate playing in Portland
by southern oregon on Dec 11, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
based on young and talented players not getting any burn.
Don’t know about Rudy’s situation since he’s behind Roy. But come on, Rex is sitting behind Steve freakin Blake in the rotation
OKC upsets me, because I predicted failure for that ballclub due to its shoddy interior play. I, however, ...
still expect that the playoffs aren’t in the Thunder’s future this season. Call me crazy, but I still expect teams like Utah and San Antonio to make a push. Houston is on solid ground, too, as far as I’m concerned.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Great steal at the end
It almost made me forget the blatant goaltend. I love how the ESPN guys both agreed that it clearly wasn’t a goaltend. Nice work.
the steal made the game for me!
very awesome!
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 11, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Sweet block makes a better story than blatant goaltend
Joel Robinson: "What about you Crow? What do you want for Christmas?"
Crow T. Robot: "I want the power to decide who lives and who dies."
by randommanthefirst on Dec 11, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
And criticizing the refs is against Ape law!
Joel Robinson: "What about you Crow? What do you want for Christmas?"
Crow T. Robot: "I want the power to decide who lives and who dies."
by randommanthefirst on Dec 11, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
I liked the announcers aside from that. Clear, clear goaltend. I hate it when LeBron-worship clouds judgment like that.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Aldridge should shoot three's.
Starting today.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 11, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
Man I hope OKC doesn't continue to do well, after Oden and everything
I can handle Oden being out, but that would just be too much… “I can endure my own despair, but not another’s hope”
Bayless should just use gametime to work on his blog.
Lord knows he’s not getting anything out of it.
by Stryder9 on Dec 11, 2009 7:48 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Anyone else think we SHOULD HAVE been a top 3 team?
Maybe if we had one fewer injuries and Blake played less.
We still can be
Next year for sure, I still think we can sneak into the top 4.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Our coaching staff is really starting to test my fandom. I just can not believe this Bayless / Blake situation.
Oden fan for life
by dario argento on Dec 11, 2009 7:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
He’s been consistent and deserves it over Blake. I really think Steve would benefit as well. Take the load off his shoulders. Miller’s the better fit.
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Blake had a nice 8 assists, but 4 TOs and 0 points
Miller: 20 pts, 4 assts, and less turnovers in less minutes. Frustrating
Start Miller.
by RenoBlazerFan on Dec 11, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
the coach's will be forced to make the change
it’s just too apparent Blake isn’t cutting the mustard
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Hasn't it been apparent for 20 games?
Start Miller.
by RenoBlazerFan on Dec 11, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not putting this one on the refs
But man oh man did the Cavs get the calls in the fourth.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
No
But that doesn’t make it easier to take.
Roy isn’t getting the calls he was last year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
The league had a meeting over the summer and decided to take away his all-star standing.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
If Roy gets half the calls LeBron got
I’m not saying we win but its closer.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Because Roy isn't as aggressive as last year and complains excessively about every single perceived no call
Joel Robinson: "What about you Crow? What do you want for Christmas?"
Crow T. Robot: "I want the power to decide who lives and who dies."
by randommanthefirst on Dec 11, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
They're home. That's gonna happen. I'm putting this one on Dean. Once again, Blake brings VERY LITTLE to the table of a team trying to make the playoffs. He is just terrible this season, and our coaches LOVE him.
Oden fan for life
by dario argento on Dec 11, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
I think Dean might be afraid
To tinker with the rotation.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Probably, but I just don't care at this point.
Oden fan for life
by dario argento on Dec 11, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
he D'd up Lebron in the 4th pretty tough
Gotta applaud his effort… but then stepping out of bounds was pretty bad. Not the first time he’s done it this year.
by WakeUpOden on Dec 11, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
FYI, Wheels said Shaq went to the hospital with an eye injury
I hope he’s okay, but the Blazer injury curse strikes again.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
that was 2 years ago...
and tonite at one point when joel was on the ground shaq was doing everything he could to avoid landing on him.
joel didn’t mean to hurt shaq, it just happened.
they get firey but i think those guys respect each other.
Yup. They are big boys.
Poop happens
Start Miller.
by RenoBlazerFan on Dec 11, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Agree. I enjoy watching the matchup.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Just being close to us makes people injured. The CDC is going to step in at some point.
Hope Shaq is OK.
Oden fan for life
by dario argento on Dec 11, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
Me too
I can’t help but like the guy. He’s one heck of a player, I used to hate him but then I realized whom I really hate is Kobe.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I used to hate him
Until Kobe came along.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I would like to see him wear Amare googles though
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
An eye injury sounds unbearably painful.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
At least Joel whupped up on some Shaq tonight!
He may be an old Shaq. But, Joel gave him some payback! Good for him.
That block early was awesome
Simply awesome.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
"Anderson Varejao fights off flu for season-high 22 pts. & 10 reb"
Good job big guys
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Blazer rule #1
Its never the big guys that kill us, its folks like him and Barbosa.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
So frustrating
There is so much talent on this roster even with the injuries and as a fan I like every single guy on the team. But they go out there and play so darn sloppy on both ends it’s hard to really love them right now.
Those flashes make it seem like they can hang with anyone but then somebody (coughLMAcough) decides not to play defense, or the offense turns into a game of Horse. Sure, Brandon Roy can make difficult shots, but easy buckets win games.
Execution is about the 5 guys on the floor and the coaches preparing them to play, not who’s sitting at home in rehab.
If Blake was injured
He’d still be on the court for 30+ minutes while healthy Bayless and Andre play less than 20
Our coaching is subpar and lacking.
Get some inspired coaching and I have a feeling we’d see a dramatic difference.
Since you're pissed off beyond belief, you must be Miller and Bayless?
I guess I am too!
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Need a quick three, so make sure that Andre is on the floor and be sure to get the ball to him...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Thery were clearlly going to do the old give and go
Pass back to the inbounder for the three. Tends to work.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yeah, how he always ends up with the long shots late in the clock is one of the great coaching mysteries
Maybe he’s the only guy who actively goes towards the ball, like Travis last year? And today he even made more of those than you can expect.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Now that we know how important Travis is to the team
he should get a max deal
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
I dont think we miss travis much
if the rest of our team is healthy… We miss everybody not playing right now….
RUDY > MJ
#52
Blake hasn't scored since New York
Start Miller.
by RenoBlazerFan on Dec 11, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
Aww they love us
Joel Robinson: "What about you Crow? What do you want for Christmas?"
Crow T. Robot: "I want the power to decide who lives and who dies."
by randommanthefirst on Dec 11, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
I have Insider
Crap article. Not at all insightful.
Basically he says that we suck because we’re turning the ball over more. I say duh.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Why do they put insider articles on page 1?
Only rich people can read them. No offense.
Joel Robinson: "What about you Crow? What do you want for Christmas?"
Crow T. Robot: "I want the power to decide who lives and who dies."
by randommanthefirst on Dec 11, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
Its not that bad
$60 for 2 years including the Magazine.
To entice people to buy Insider silly.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
It just hurts because it's true.
Hollinger loves us, he’s just telling the truth.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 11, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Roy played so bad in the 4th.
4/10 FG%
1 freethrow.
10 points for 10 shots.
Better than one of his quarters, but not good at all.
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Some of those were late desperations
Hard to complain about that.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
One of them was. And two of his makes pretty much were.
But the bulk of his misses were not desperation.
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25 points on 23 shots isn't very good for a C
also Indy is a very fast paced opponent so the boards are likely inflated by a couple.
Still a nice line though.
#52
And of course he's a focus of the offense.
Could you imagine the numbers a healthy Oden would put up, with the rest of NJ’s lineup?
healthy Oden is much more efficient than Brook.
Fouls and injuries are the two reasons Brook is more productive.
#52
health and fouls are part of the game
don’t discredit blake for staying healthy and out of foul trouble. that’s pretty silly.
wow blake?
talk about discrediting brooke. i called him blake. them’s fighting words
I don't get why you knock Lopez for being healthy and not foul prone
I’ve tried to convince you he’d be a good pro since before the draft; maybe someday you’ll come around.
#52
Nobody's gonna do that deal on their end.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Greg Oden & Brook Lopez would've made an awesome modern-day Twin Tower, for Lopez works ...
best as a face-up 4 — which he was in college — who can both stick it from mid-range along the high-post or over along one of the baselines. Plus, Lopez would be deadly with the high pick-and-roll; thus, Oden could’ve been used as a traditional back-to-the-basket center, with the occasional side screen-roll to vary it up a bit. Alas, the Portland Trail Blazers are stuck with a soft, steaming pile of excrement like LMA at the 4.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
do we care that lebron likes john wall?
goshahahhaha
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 11, 2009 7:56 PM PST reply actions
I think the Magic misses Hedo more than they think.
Carter is not a better fit.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
yeah honestly i liked hedo there last season n watchin him n finals fit good.
idk why they got rid of him or trades w/e
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 11, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
because paying him 55 mil
over the next 5 years will go down as one of the dumber offseason moves of this decade. the magic are one of the top 2 teams in the east and the raptors are awful.
No matter how you slice it, Vince Carter > Hedo Turkoglu.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
What if the stat is
“Being the pride and joy of Turkey”?
Hedo kicks his butt 6 ways from Sunday in that category.
#52
Ilyasova and some guys you have never heard of might quickly take that crown from him
Hedo and Memo have been pretty atrocious for Turkey in more than one tournament.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
ok later guys
sorry about the negativity, just my style you know.
Good effort by the Blazers today overall. Roy and LMA will get back to last year’s form, just might not happen this year. Our coaches… well…
#52
Roy was in last years form tonight
and has been for a few games. LMA was fine but yes he did have some baaaddd looking .. or no-looking.. defensive plays
Bayless didn’t play nearly enough. But other then that, it was a great game. just wished we’d have gotten the win
Wouldn't mind if Bayless was starting. Or at least playing.
by collectiveshane on Dec 11, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
Roy was not in last year's form tonight. Not at all. Gave us nothing in the first half, looked slow. 9-25 overall.
He’s had some good games, but not consistent.
#52
Roy was not good at all tonight.
Ever.
He was inefficient every single quarter.
The only reason we think he is back in form is because he chucked up so many he ended up hitting a few.
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whos he going to pass to?
Wouldn't mind if Bayless was starting. Or at least playing.
by collectiveshane on Dec 11, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Aldridge was on fire this whole game.
So was Miller.
That is a cop out.
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Aldridge wasn't getting a whole lot of open looks
come on. If Roy doesn’t play this game, we lose by 25.
Wouldn't mind if Bayless was starting. Or at least playing.
by collectiveshane on Dec 11, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, Bayless played better than Roy did.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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Im all for Bayless playing 25-32 minutes a game.
I don’t think you can call Roy’s game “not good at all”. I think we’ve taken Roy’s play for granted and so when he doesn’t score 30 on 15 shots we think he’s detracting from the team.
Wouldn't mind if Bayless was starting. Or at least playing.
by collectiveshane on Dec 11, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Roy's game was not good at all.
That is my opinion.
I don’t find 1 shot = less than one point ‘good.’
His one redeeming quality on the night was his assist/turnover ratio.
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Yeah neither do I
But take into account the fact that a lot of open looks are from attention drawn to him
Wouldn't mind if Bayless was starting. Or at least playing.
by collectiveshane on Dec 11, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
True.
I love Roy and I think he is worth the cash. But I’d like him to prove me right here.
I think Roy is the best player on this team.
But he isn’t really in good form when he takes jumpers. In the 4th he went inside. All of a sudden he was scoring and getting in his game. The jumpers are what made this not a good game at all by him.
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And whatever looks Aldridge was getting were simply better than whatever looks Roy was getting.
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Btw
Where was Joel in the 4th? he was doing just fine
Wouldn't mind if Bayless was starting. Or at least playing.
by collectiveshane on Dec 11, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
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Sure.
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Oh now I see
thanks makes so much sense now
Wouldn't mind if Bayless was starting. Or at least playing.
by collectiveshane on Dec 11, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
And I'm even more confused.
Is that comment related to Roy or were you just wondering about something else?
Joel is our only big man. He plays the same way every game since forever.
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I thought you were filling in for AK since he seems to be persona non grata.
Where is he, anyway?
#52
I was busy earlier, but I'm on a roll now.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
LMA had 22 points on 13 shot attempts....
He cant help that everybody on the team forgets about him. Lordy his rebounding was atrocious though….
RUDY > MJ
#52
The Cavs are NOT winning the title this year if you ask me
They just aren’t good enough. ANd Shaq is a bust.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Cavs do look like a step down from the Celtics and Lakers.
With Lebron and the refs, you never know.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Hard to tell about the FAkers
Since they’ve only played THREE ROAD GAMES.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
stern
you know david will get the cavs or celts in the finals. sorry magic you are a great team but you have no chance
by goblazers503 on Dec 11, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
They got Shaq just for the playoffs-- specifically, against Orlando
I don’t know if we can judge it until then. Sure, he doesn’t help the regular season, but he can keep Howard off the block.
And Howard off the block can’t do anything.
#52
Man, I haven't been this down in regards to the Blazers in a long time
We honestly look like a middle of the pack playoff team, BEFORE most of the injuries. Now we look like a bottom tier playoff team at best…
Brandon doesn’t look the same at all, I was hoping for improvement from LA, but he looks like he has regressed to his 2nd year self. We finally sign a great point guard and he hasn’t been integrated into the lineup hardly at all, after almost a third of the season, while Blake has fallen flat in even the things he did very well for us in the past couple years. Martell looks like the exact same player from 2 years ago.
Everything about this team reminds me almost exactly of the 07-08 Blazers… which is a significant regression…
Just really doesn’t feel good as a fan of this team now. I can’t even picture how we could possibly win a playoff series this year, including the injuries. Championship contenders in the next 5 years? Doesn’t even look like a possibility right now. And I don’t know how it is going to be fixed.
Basically, I feel sad.
See I felt that way
Before tonight. Now I feel hopeful again.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I know it snowed there last year.
First time in like 40 years or something.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
honestly i got no clue
you’re probably right
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 11, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
Casey: "No moral victories in the locker room. They know they let one slip away"
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
We're really just a 7 man team right now
Considering Cunningham and Bayless played 12 minutes combined. In that time, Cunningham was +9 and Bayless was +6. No other Blazer had a positive +/-. Hopefully they’ll get more time tomorrow night since the starters will be tired.
Get Well Oden
I know alot of people are down on Blake, but Varejao killed us in the fourth with easy buckets. Who was responsible for guarding him: Aldridge. The Blazers are instantly soft without Oden.
What was funny is that Varejao
Was passing up his shot a lot in the first half (his little edge of the key jumper he can hit any time). Good for Anderson that he overcame his flu.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I wouldn't throw it all on LA, though
Lot of it was because the weakside help didn’t rotate when LA went to help on LeBron.
Sure, having Joel would have helped. But then, I am not the coach.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
it's time for a RG bayless chant
this PG situation is starting to become painful, i dont know how much longer i can watch this
I am with you
If I am Bayless, I will ask for trade as this team is “HOPELESS”
i don't think bayless will be around a lot longer
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 11, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
but honestly would that do much?
don’t get me wrong though i want him around
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 11, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
He ain't going nowhere
neither Blake nor Miller have Long term potential. Bayless does. Case closed.
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
ehhhh blake can go but i'd like for miller n bayless to stay
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 11, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Miller would probably be a better mentor at this point
I was dubious about Miller for some time but at this point he’s proven to me he’s the better PG
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
yeah he definitely is
i think he’s more consistent
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 11, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
i don't care if it doesn't do anything
i need to vent, the people responsible for this need to hear it
Bayless lost his man sveral times on defense
tonite and committed the cardinal sin of picking up his dribble in the backcourt forcing Roy to come back and rush the ball up the court…until he can stop making stupid mistakes he is on the bench in my book
HaHa Blake!
36 mins and 0 pts.
Biggest joke in NBA history.
But, don’t worry as coaches will keep giving 36 mins to you
I bet Blake smokes a cigar after every game.
He’s a man’s man. That’s why he plays.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Doubtful
When he tries to look fierce during the intro videos I almost start laughing because its co clearly not him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Ya wrong.
I heard a rumor he made a pacific bear tap out with his MMA skills.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I wonder if his MMA skills
Have something to do with why he plays so much.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
You think Nate torn his achilles accidentally?
Ankle lock anyone?
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
No.
What happened was:
Bayless says: “I’m going into the game for your Blakey Boy, right now!”
McMillan says: “Oh no, you’re not, young man!”
Bayless: “You gonna stop me, Grandpa?”
McMillan: “You bet your…I was a player, back in the day!”
Well, Bayless goes one way, McMillan goes another, but his achilles tendon stays where it is. Sad, but true.
Don't be so sure
I hope you’re wrong at least.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Steve Blake isn't even the biggest joke in Blazer history. That dishonorable award goes to LaRue Martin.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
I'm just a dumb kid
I don’t think I ever saw Wally Walker play. I never saw Kiki as a Blazer, either.
#52
I started watching right before we got Buck Williams
And I hardly remember Bowie. I remember him more from watching replays on NBA-TV and stuff, than from when he was actually a Blazer.
#52
I didn't know much about the NBA then
But my dad was real excited we got Buck Williams, so I was real excited we got Buck Williams.
#52
When growing up, I hated Rich King; that's 'cause he sucked and shared my surname.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
There is a current NBA player with my surname whom I do not like as well.
But I’ll never tell! coy smile
#52
wait, you are Matt Bonner’s brother?
get well soon, big guy.
#52
by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
What?
Kiki dropped 40 against (I forget) in his first game as a Trail Blazer. That guy could score at will.
Resign not thy day gig thou mewling flop-mouthed pumpion
not quite... but he was pre-Buck
too bad… Kiki was a machine. Awful defender but he had a sweet stroke and was money from outside.
Resign not thy day gig thou mewling flop-mouthed pumpion
Kiki Vandeweghe was a horrible defender and never should've been acquired by ...
Portland in the first place during June of 1984. In fact, I’d partly blame his acquisition on the Trail Blazers drafting Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan.
“The main problem with the 1984 off-season was the short-sighted Kiki Vandeweghe trade in which the team decimated its depth for a defensively inept, high-volume shooting small forward.
Instead of trading Wayne Cooper, Calvin Natt, and Fat Lever — along with a couple of draft picks — for Vandeweghe, the Trail Blazers should’ve not made the deal and, moreover, drafted Michael Jordan in lieu of the oft-injured Sam Bowie with the 2nd pick in the ’84 NBA Draft.
Under that scenario, the 1984-1985 Trail Blazers could’ve possibly trotted out the following roster.
C: Mychael Thompson
PF: Calvin Natt
SF: Michael Jordan
SG: Jim Paxson
PG: Darnell Valentine
C: Wayne Cooper
PF: Kenny Carr
SF/SG: Clyde Drexler
PG: Fat Lever
C: Audie Norris
SG: Bernard Thompson
PG: Steve Colter
Now, with that noted, I didn’t include Jerome Kersey on that revised rendition of the ‘84-’85 roster, as he’d’ve had a tough time making the team out of camp as a second-round draft pick with that loaded of a ballclub. Bernard Thompson, who was a low first-round draft pick that very same year, would’ve had an edge over Kersey that fall on making the team."
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/8/9/983193/oden-over-durant#19507999
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
I was born on 10/30/1984, so that would've been impossible.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
On a side note, a three-wing rotation of Michael Jordan, Clyde ...
Drexler, and Jim Paxson would’ve been awesome. Drexler likely would’ve developed into a full-time 3 due to his size and dribble-drive/slashing game, while Jordan would’ve become the 2 he did become in Chicago. Jim Paxson, who was entering his late-20s around 1984, would’ve probably soon became a high-scoring sixth man behind those two guys. In hindsight, it’d’ve been good times for Portland had Kiki Vandeweghe never entered the picture.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
I know you're being snarky, but it's the truth.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
I think I'm wrong but
for some reason I’m thinking those two draft picks Denver got turned out to be Blair Rasmussen (Oregon) and Jerome Lane (Pitt) who i remember was one of if not thee first guy to shatter a backboard by dunking… or I’m senile
Resign not thy day gig thou mewling flop-mouthed pumpion
Chocolate Thunder shattered backboards in the 70s
Before those draft picks coulda’ been used, and I don’t know if he was the first.
#52
According to Basketball-Reference, Blair Rasmussen and Willie White ...
were the future draft picks. Yet, regarding Jerome Lane, he was an awesome offensive rebounder in spite of his short stature. Lane was like a DeJuan Blair of sorts, albeit from a previous generation.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Brandon Jennings vs. Steve Blake will be fun tonight
I like you Steve, but seriously over long stretches you bring nothing to the game. Not an offensive threat on fast breaks, drives, and barely on outside shots. And how you got a defensive rating of “excellent” on pick and rolls is mesmerizing. Super solid backup, but just not what you want out of your starter on PG. It brings the whole team on another level when Miller plays at least decent.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
I emailed it to him, too
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
by Norsktroll on Dec 11, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice match-up!
I bet Blake will play 36 mins and Jennings will get 36 pts
His excellent rating basically ruined my opinion of synergy's analysis...
At least as far as defense goes….
RUDY > MJ
#52
Maybe Greg swatting away shots and scaring away drives was a part of that...
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Although Varejao is truly an exceptonal player
At least inside.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I consider this roll-over hate.
Blake did himself not favors tonight. Blazers lost this game collectively.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
yah the 0 points
we got in 36 minutes from a starter didn’t hurt us at all.
also don’t think the blake the “matador” has nothing to do with the cavs getting points in the paint.
Blake is an easy target for people's frustration to be vented
but I do think he has been hesitant about his game and zneeds to get more aggressive…
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
He is passing up shots
He would have taken earlier this year.
3 point shooting is all about rhythym. He has to shoot more to try to get it back.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
and he throws the offense out of sync
when he passes up good looks because he gets cold feet
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Kevin Love having a Pryzbillish game
7 boards 2 points, Fakers by 11.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
What bothers me the most about Blake
Is as I mention above, he only had FOUR SHOTS. You have to try to score at some point because Pryz is a limited offensive weapon and we can’t have two dead zones on the court at the same time.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
three
if you count webster for half the game
by goblazers503 on Dec 11, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
But at least Martell tried to score
He had a bad night, fine. But Blake is passing up shots he would have taken without a thought last year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
confidence
blake has lost confidence in his 3-pt shot. He is passing up shots he would have nailed (at ~40%) last year.
Is it just me or is there a totally different set of rules for officiating when it comes to LeBron?
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
LeBron has only fouled out three times his entire carreer
Same as Roy but he’s been in the league for longer.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Interested fact:
Wilt Chamberlain never fouled out. So I guess that’s how it’s always been.
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
WHAT?
are you saying that nba refs are biased? NO!!!!!! they aren’t at all, and david stern isn’t a crook either
by goblazers503 on Dec 11, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
David Stern did an internal audit and said the refs are clean.
Clearly there are no biases or preferential treatment.
Because he has so much motivation to find the truth if the truth is the refs are crooked.
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
stern
is the most honest man in america. the nba couldn’t survive without him!
by goblazers503 on Dec 11, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
He only got two questionable calls for him. That's about what you can expect.
I was surprised Roy wasn’t called for a foul on that last-second swipe. Oh maybe three, he once hit Steve’s hand away at the perimeter which would get called internationally every time.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
by Norsktroll on Dec 11, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If we had Greg
LBJ would have barreled into him for two quick fouls (regardless of whether Greg fouled him) in the first four minutes, then we’d have continued as we saw it. Greg would likely have helped significantly in the second half for rebounds.
Just a guess, but based on previous experiences.
Though Juwan played really well tonight and he most likely wouldnt have seen the court if Greg was healthy
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
or rudy. or travis. or batum
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
Houston has no Yao and T-Mac and did
So did the Griz. Two teams we beat this year. Of course the rotation is really tight at the moment, but still they did make enough mistakes on their own.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
He did play briefly
Demo seems even more cautious than Nate. Or Dante still has trouble with his eye.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
pdxtrailblazers – Roy: “if we relax for even one quarter we can get blown out by anybody”
by portlandgiirl91 on Dec 11, 2009 8:26 PM PST reply actions
Sounds like he has a TON of confidence in the Blazers talent level
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
speakin of which
i saw casey tonight, but was too scared to say anything.
i did yell out “MIKE RICE!!!!” to rice during pregame warmups, but i don’t think he heard me. music in the Q is WAAAAYYYY too loud.
These two players play the same position.
Player X: 0 pts, 0/4 fg, 0/3 3pt, 3 rbs, 8 asts, 4 turnovers, 0 blks, 0 stls
Player Y: 20 pts, 8/13 fg, 2/3 3pt, 6 rbs, 3 asts, 2 turnovers, 0 blks, 1 stl
Who are they and which one is the starter?
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
Well, I'd say Player X's line isn't too bad if he played 20 minutes.
36 minutes? not so much.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Hmmmm...I believe player X played 36 or so minutes..Blake. Player Y....Miller.
Yep…got to LOVE the coaches on this team.
Tonight was a good example of why it was easy to like Blake before
He was trying very hard on defense, even with vastly overmatched.
But sooooo many minutes for someone who just doesn’t offer much… makes it so hard to love the effort, when the talent level and what he offers the team just isn’t much. It just… ain’t… much.
#52
He has something on Nate.
Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw, Webster, Bayless, Blake, Miller, Joel... Holy crap!
Because he has been around
And the Oden injury hasn’t helped things, in addition to Nate’s injury, as no one is trying to change things up— just maintain.
Roy also hasn’t been playing well so everyone wants to do what they can to make him play as good as he can, and they may mistakenly (or who knows, might not be a mistake) believe that Blake is a big part of what helps Roy.
Nothing has gone right, and I also see the coaches attempting to just recapture what made LMA and Roy good before at the very least, and with all of the turmoil having even more change might be avoided… for better or worse.
I think a big problem has that we’ve still gone to the Roy-creates-everything-offense with Miller in there, when that just doesn’t make sense. So of course Roy will be more comfortable with a shooter next to him…
#52
Blazers ranking only 7 in the west now！
and spur is behind us！make the playoff？we should make more efforts now！
No such thing as a good loss....
…but this is as close as you can get. For the first time this season they consistently pushed the tempo and even when they didn’t get fast break points, they got into the set offense much earlier in the shot clock. The energy and hustle from last year was back in evidence. Miller played a great game. We got contributions from Howard and Webster (at least for a quarter). Its true Blake gave us no points – even a couple of buckets could have made the difference – but he did have 8 assists and actually played surprisingly scrappy defense on Lebron, who he has no business even trying to cover.
The biggest issue was Varejo. Here’s a guy who averages 7.3 points a game goes off for 22, mostly on those screen and rolls to the basket. I don’t know if it was Aldrige who was supposed to stay with him, but if so this is on him. You would think by the 5th time it happened he would have seen it coming and, y’know, maybe roll with Varejao (this happened to Howard a couple of times too). LA was also out rebounded by everyone’s favorite whipping boy Steve Blake – LA had 2 to Blake’s 3. This kills me. LA has the athleticism to be a defensive force and rebounder. If he and Roy become ever get as good at D as they are at O, this team’s ceiling is unlimited. So frustrating to watch that not happen. Hey, one other thing. Would it kill our guards to at least once hit a big rolling of a high screen? Just once? Blake and GO did it a couple times last year (Phoenix game) and it was killer.
Would have loved to seen more Bayless. Has anybody noticed that he’s driving and kicking WAY better than last year? Team energy also ups whenever he’s in. Still a head down scorer most the time, but definitely signs of progress. I agree he should be getting more minutes, especially tomorrow night on the second game of a back to back when fresh legs will be at a premium. And JB’s legs are tragically fresh due to lack of minutes.
Anyway, Cleveland pretty much woke up defensively in the second half and we couldn’t get over the hump. Hard for Roy to finish around the basket with Lebron able to swoop off his man. That call could have gone either way, but it’s 4th quarter in Cleveland and it’s Lebron so Roy isn’t going to get that call. But hey they fought all the to end with 9 guys. If they can carry this effort over on a consistent basis, we should be okay.
OK, that’s it for my first BE post. More as events warrant.
Thanks! Been lurking for a while...
…finally thought I’d pipe in..
welcome, great take.
get well soon, big guy.
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by Cablinasian on Dec 11, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Wait a minute
i rebooted to try and fix the SBN wierdness and came back to you have been warned about foul language message? is Blake a bad word now
by southern oregon on Dec 11, 2009 8:56 PM PST reply actions
using the other term for a donkey
in most sentences will get your comment deleted, although during game threads most cursing is an automatic warning to make sure it doesn’t get out of hand.
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I might have said sucks and I am always carefull about my language
by southern oregon on Dec 11, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
I still got it on my page
It mighta’ slipped out, but you said the other term for donkey.
It was “and no, smart donkey, it’s not the hamsters” etc.
#52
still pretty tame considering
my question was it an auto warning or hyper sensitive mod warning?
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
I think it's a word that gets an auto-warning
I am not a mod so I dunno.
In GDT’s, I can see the need to be extra sensitive or it’ll spiral quickly.
#52
Then we would need to replace it with "blows"
You need some word like that.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Stinks?
Who says stinks? And that might be insulting to a player like Gasol, insinuating poor personal hygiene.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Or greasy.
You can get threatened by the mods at Dreamshake because it is supposedly racist (Scola).
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I think it's racist to even think that is racist
How little do they think of people from Argentina, that saying one is greasy means all are greasy?!?!
#52
Well, greasy Argentinian would be racist. Scola has greasy hair should be allowed since it’s as close to a fact as it gets in a game day thread.
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
Right, I agree.
But someone just said Scola’s hair looked greasy and a certain mod, not a bad guy at all, went berserk (his avatar was Cartman as Hitler at the time too).
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The avatar belonged to the mod that was angry at racism, I mean.
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Oh, I remember that.
I also remember dragging a confession out of you as to how attracted you secretly are to Luis Scola’s flowing locks…
Without reading it I can't say one way or another for sure
But that sounds ridiculous and racist in and of itself.
#52
Does not open in a new window.
http://www.thedreamshake.com/2009/4/22/848298/playoff-recap-roy-pours-in-41-as
Word search the page for “greasy” and note that at the time Grungedave’s avatar was Cartman as Hitler.
Grungedave is a great guy, and was caught at a very emotional time, the playoffs.
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I remember liking that site
But not being very impressed with GrungeDave…
I do trust your recollection of it all, I just think it sounds silly of the guy to freak out over that.
But I don’t even think calling him a greasy Argentinian is bad, because he IS greasy looking and IS Argentinian… but if someone says ALL Argentinian’s are greasy, that is bad.
It is a gray area when one uses a nationality as part of a slur, of course. Being from Argentina is just a nationality, not a race of people, like being a white American. Scola is straight from Europe.
#52
No one would say
“Ohhh those greasy Americans” is a racially charged statement.
Argentina is the same, to me.
#52
My words are garbled tonight
Argentina is a mix of ethnicities, just like the United States. Ya can’t be “racist” toward Argentinians, just like you can’t be “racist” towards Americans.
Too many different races; you’d end up hating everything.
#52
Don't worry.
I understood you the first time. :)
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And now, you sound like my Dad.
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PC goes in and out.
Sucks would certainly be a banned word if it was a standards thing since its history is clearly tied to an intimate act.
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Right, that is part of the history.
But by that standard a “bundle of sticks” would be allowable.
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You know what I mean.
You do know what I mean, right?
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Someone WOULD say "go suck an egg" or "this sucks rocks", at least in olden times
The word that also means a bundle of sticks, or a cigarette, was never used disparagingly in that way.
At least I have never heard it that way.
#52
Actually, the word was always disparaging, just like sucks.
You could say, “You ‘the word’”, and it was an insult long before it became connected to homosexuals.
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I would like to see that
I have never seen it used as an insult, except in regards to homosexuals.
And I read and am familiar with olde tymey slang for the most part.
#52
My title isn't meant to be snarky
If you know someplace that shows it being used in that capacity, I’d wanna see it.
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No taken as snarky.
And I’m not very sensitive anyway.
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In other words:
I do not believe the F-word was used as a non-homosexual-related insult before it was linked to being a derogatory term for homosexuals. Until I see it.
In countries that still use the word in it’s “original” context (cigarette, for example), it isn’t an insult.
#52
Maybe the Shakespear insult generator could be of help. I think at least T-Darkstar would approve of that.
http://www.petelevin.com/shakespeare.htm
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
“Away I say thou goatish foul-practicing winter-cricket” sounds nicer than “NO bench Blake he sucks on defense”
Miller - Roy - Webster - Aldridge - Przybilla. Is that so hard?
BAN HIM!!!
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that's great stuff
now when some buffoon irritates me I can say “Away I say thou pribbling common-kissing canker blossom!” Hmmmm… in fact…
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Suck a mop and gets splinters all over the inside of your cheek
That’s been our play this year at times.
#52
I love Bayless and would hate to see him leave...
but if I’m him, I’d be demanding a trade. Too much talent to go to waste sitting behind Blake, who’s a joke. I hope he can find a good situation like Channing has found.
Get Well Oden
by ericking on Dec 11, 2009 8:57 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I have to agree
If I’m Jerryd Bayless I’m probably just frustrated as hell over the inconsistent minutes. What does he have to do? He’s improved the mid-range game, he gets to the line, he’s an effective spark off the bench. If the Blazers are truly eying some sort of mid-season move to acquire a wing defender as everyone is saying, shouldn’t the team be doing more to see if they can get by with a Miller/Bayless or Blake/Bayless ugh rotation at the point?
In the four games where Bayless has gotten over 15 minutes of PT, he’s averaged 13 points (including an average of seven free throws attempted per game) in 19 minutes, he’s improved (somewhat) as a defender, and he doesn’t turn the ball over (only 9 TOs on the season, on a team that’s had major issues holding onto the ball.) Yes, he’s putting up those stats mostly against second units, but still, he should be getting more of an opportunity.
I’ve given the team the benefit of the doubt thus far; McMillan isn’t an idiot and it’s probably some factor we’re not aware of as fans. But to see Blake get 36 minutes tonight contributing zero points and four turnovers while an athletic youngster like Bayless sits, that’s gotta be driving him nuts. Kevin Pritchard has repeatedly said that Bayless has not asked for a trade; I’m not sure I buy it.
"I take the little gummy bear Flintstones vitamins…I try not to eat the lady. I try not to eat the man. Just give me the car. I try to find the car. Yea, worst case scenario, I eat the lady." - Ron Artest, 2009
LETS GO WOLVES!
Hanging tough with the Fakers.
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Including his 4-13 shooting this game...
Martell Webster is shooting 36.9% for the season (3pt% of 35.5). In the 5 December games, he is shooting 25%.
…just don’t know what to say.
Didn't see the game, but...
looking at the boxscore it appears
1) Martell played 7 minutes at the ‘4’ in a small ball lineup, therefore:
2) Roy played 20 minutes at the ‘3’, therefore:
3) 28 minutes of playing time at the ‘2’ were up for grabs, therefore:
2) Bayless played 8 minutes total, let’s assume it was all at the ‘2’, therefore:
5) Blake played 20 minutes at the ‘2’ in addition to the 16 minutes he played PG when Miller was out.
Sound about right? In addition, Miller played 32 minutes, Blake played 36 minutes, and Bayless only 8 minutes. Given that Blake was scoreless on 4 shots and had 4 turnovers while Miller had 20/6/3 with only 2 turnovers (8-13 shooting), and Bayless had 2 points, 2 assists and no turnovers in his limited time, can someone please explain to me why on Earth Blake continues to recieve so many minutes? Is there some superhuman feat he accomplished out there that does not show up in the boxscore?
This situation makes me want to scream. How anyone can think Blake playing 20 minutes a game at shooting guard is a good idea is just beyond me.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Why won't the media
flat out ask them what Bayless has to do to earn more playinig time. Or better yet, ask them why Blake get’s so much time. I’m tired of the Blazers organization ignoring the obvious.
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