Time for Nate McMillan to Go Who Agrees??

by nbanick on Dec 1, 2009 11:08 PM PST

I know its only three games in a row. But we have only beat teams we are suppose to beat.

Bye Nate tIme to go. Thanks for all you did.. Not hating on you but it's time to go..

I want to know if there is a mass of fans that believe nate has lost the team? We need a coach who 1.doesnt call plays from the bench 2.change the player rotaion weekly and 3.has respect from his stars

BROY Shut up and play

Lamarcus Stop playing soft

Oden Start dominating not playing

Catfish We need you! you too Batum

KP Make A move

what do you think?

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totally agree!

let’s blow this thing up now before we lose another game! It has been proven that nate is an incompetant fool, brandon is a shell of his former self, oden is a bust, and andre is poop, so is blake. and L.A. is poop too.

3rd down... chainsaw noise please.

by GoBlaze22 on Dec 1, 2009 11:34 PM PST reply actions

by the way

I know this post wasn’t harping on the starters, it was harping on Nate. I can understand letting some steam off but are you seriously considering firing nate now and going with another coach at this stage of the franchise’s developement?
21-32-41-54. 12-8? Fire the coach? Really? A vulcan would not agree with you.

3rd down... chainsaw noise please.

by GoBlaze22 on Dec 1, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions

The hard part is taking a middle of the pack team and going to the next level

Taking a lottery team to mediocre is easy

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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions

looking around at how many lottery teams stay lottery

I’m not sure easy is the word i’d use.

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But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

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by ratbastird on Dec 2, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions

Oden is far from a bust!

But I agree 100% that Nate should have been canned along time ago. He has definitely hindered the progress of this team.

by blaze1 on Dec 2, 2009 1:12 AM PST up reply actions

Hey, we actually played better tonight

Nate’s isn’t going anywhere for a while, so deal with it.

The problem with the offense, imho, is that there are not enough seconds in the clock to feature LaMarcus, Greg, and Brandon. This is especially true because LMA and Oden play with there backs to the basket and towards each other … lots of clock eaten up on post, repost, kick out swing, post sequences. We played better tonight largely because LMA was injured, thus freeing up valuable shot clock seconds. A trade is the best solution to this problem, especially if Oden “hits the ski jump” on his nearly limitless potential soon.

by Sound_Automatic on Dec 1, 2009 11:36 PM PST reply actions

We looked better because guys were actually playing with energy and scrappping for loose balls

However, the team was actually pretty pathetic in terms of trying to get any sort of offensive flow or create easy shots. Without the exceptionally high rate of offensive rebounding that the Blazers achieved tonight, they would have lost by more than 20. We would do better with the post, repost, kick-out, swing sequences than with what we ended up using against the Heat.

by trk on Dec 2, 2009 1:11 AM PST up reply actions

played better?

musta been watching diff games. I saw a team down by ten or more the entire game and who never mounted a serious threat.

Against a barely .500 Miami team playing on the road

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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 8:18 AM PST up reply actions

As for the D

depressed, maybe?

by Sound_Automatic on Dec 1, 2009 11:38 PM PST reply actions

team D sucked

Oden ruled.

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by PDXBuckeye on Dec 1, 2009 11:43 PM PST up reply actions

I would rather have Jaff Van Gundy or Tom Thibodeau

The players aren’t listening to Nate and they don’t like his slow, boring style. How can a team that athletic not be run and gun? And we definitely need a trade. Let’s see what Pritchard can do. I hope he does something.

by hugetrailblazerfan on Dec 1, 2009 11:46 PM PST reply actions

these fire nate posts are lame.

and irrelevant.

Nate has earned this whole season to screw up. Because he has an impeccable record in 4 seasons.

And because two main guys are injured.

That’s it.

So pipe down.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Dec 1, 2009 11:50 PM PST reply actions 2 recs

damn straight!

and well said!

3rd down... chainsaw noise please.

by GoBlaze22 on Dec 2, 2009 12:16 AM PST up reply actions

Thanks!

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Dec 2, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions

Impeccable?

wow

also batum and trav as two main guys is a stretch.

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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 8:17 AM PST up reply actions

is there another coach you can think of that has improved their win total

by ten games in four consecutive seasons? That’s pretty impeccable.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Dec 2, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions

i agree, but he won't until season end

my 2 issues for the evening:

1. first starter subbed for was only 1 other than Roy with a bucket. Roy had 8 or 10 at the time, Webster had 5, Cunningham made one foul shot. No other points. Why pull Web then? he was cold the rest of the night after that.

2. When Joel picked up his 3rd oden should have been put in. in fact he hopped up immediately, got to the scorers table and was pulled back by Nate. We had cut it to 2, pretty good considering how we started, we had momentum, then we go the last 3 minutes without a center and go into the locker room down 10. We had a shot at getting this thing tied up or maybe even taking a lead before half (maybe not have kept it all the way through to half, but it would have been a psychological boost) ony to get turned away.

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by PDXBuckeye on Dec 1, 2009 11:52 PM PST reply actions

I agree with your point completely.

but to fire nate is ridiculous right? please agree with me here.

3rd down... chainsaw noise please.

by GoBlaze22 on Dec 2, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions

eh, ridiculous? not ridiculous

maybe more dramatic than ridiculous. I just have never liked his game management, even when we were making huge strides over the past 3 seasons. I always gave him the benefit of the doubt on that front because the team was so young. Now, with his style being one of the more obvious barriers to sustained success, my doubts are surfacing more readily.

I look at it this way, do you think his coaching will lead us to an eventual title? i don’t. so i am ready for him to go whenever pritchard is ready to make the move.

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by PDXBuckeye on Dec 2, 2009 12:31 AM PST up reply actions

I think i need to side with you here

I don’t like his game management either. However, I’m still going to give him some slack despite my increasing grrr. he can show he’s right, he can adapt, or he can hang himself with it.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

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by ratbastird on Dec 2, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions

fair enough

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by PDXBuckeye on Dec 2, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions

I wish I could agree with you here, but I'm just not convinced that the available alternatives are better.

Yes Nate makes me crazy but I just don’t like the alternatives yet.

Somebody needs to post a “This guy is way better and here is why” fanpost that really sells me on another coach.

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by LaMarvelous on Dec 2, 2009 12:36 AM PST reply actions 1 recs

Dennis Rodman?

joking here, but i bet he can get these guys playing, tougher, grittier, more scrappy ball

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by PDXBuckeye on Dec 2, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions

Who is out there that can coach the team?

I agree that Nate has to keep the rotation the same. But it’s hard with all the injuries. If the Blazers were healthy I think they wouldn’t have lost all 3 of these games. I know there’s chemistry issues but the team needs to get over that. I never thought I’d say Brandon Roy is holding the Blazers back but he is. Andre Miller is the best point guard Portland’s had in a while and Brandon prefers Steve Blake. I’m hoping the Blazers can figure it out. If they can’t then the last 4 years of bringing these guys would mean nothing. I don’t think Nate is the problem though I understand why people think he is. This team won 54 games last year with Nate as the coach. They potentially are better this season. The players just have a lot to figure out.

by Aaron Sass on Dec 2, 2009 1:09 AM PST reply actions

That's the problem, there aren't really any great alternatives

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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 8:16 AM PST up reply actions

Dollar Bill Bradley

smart, nows how to run an inside out game with a bonafied back to the basket center and he is no longer a US Senator, gotta have time on his hands

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by PDXBuckeye on Dec 2, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions

is this one of those joke threads that mock the over-reactions of other?

or are you serious. haha

by Blazerland on Dec 2, 2009 1:54 AM PST reply actions

I generally feel Nate McMillan is a good coach, but if he was fired, I don’t think we’d miss a beat. Monty Williams would be a fantastic head coach.

Bring the bling to Rip City, Natch'

Trade John Canzano!

by richardb on Dec 2, 2009 3:12 AM PST reply actions

I'm sick of all these Dean Demopolis fanboys screaming for Nates's head

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by tominhawaii on Dec 2, 2009 4:27 AM PST reply actions

If he seemed to know how to fix things I'd have more confidence

After every loss his only answer is that they need to work more. Why don’t we just hire a 80s exercise instructor if all we need is energy? He’s bad at managing rotations, so it really does seem like his best asset was getting them to play hard, but he can’t do that anymore. I think he was the perfect coach for the Baby Blazers, but now I just don’t see him being able to take them to the championship level where you have to outcoach and use strategy to get an advantage.

Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.

by terryisntbald on Dec 2, 2009 5:56 AM PST reply actions

Who are the options for replacement?

Are there any good candidates out there who can take his job?

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Dec 2, 2009 7:24 AM PST reply actions

My general philosophy on firing coaches

You shouldn’t fire your coach unless you have someone you think is an improvement lined up. For example, if the Ducks’ basketball team could have gotten Gonzaga’s coach this summer I would have said fire Ernie Kent in a heartbeat, but when they unofficially offered they turned him down. You don’t want to be stuck looking for anything. However, if a coach has clearly lost the team then you have to make a move in the season, because anybody who has the team’s ear will be in improvement.

I still think Nate has a chance to get the team playing hard again so things could work this year. I do think in the offseason they should look for someone new. Nate was a good fit when the team was young, but I don’t think he can manage games enough to lead us to a title.

Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.

by terryisntbald on Dec 2, 2009 7:52 AM PST up reply actions

mchale

can teach aldridge to be a better post player and oden how to curse loudly enough to draw a foul on the other guy when the opposing player flings him across the paint (a rather impressive feat by oneal by the way, not sure i have ever seen a guy do that to oden before)…mchales use of f*ck and sh*t in the paint got more foul calls than him actually being fouled ever did as i recall…

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by PDXBuckeye on Dec 2, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions

I agree that Nate has done a very poor job so far this season

I know the record is ok, but the basketball itself has been awful. Nate has been outcoached by everyone this season except Vinnie Del Negro.

I also agree with these:

BROY Shut up and play

Lamarcus Stop playing soft

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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 7:30 AM PST reply actions

I'll say that again: Nate has been outcoached by everoyone this season except

VINNIE DEL NEGRO

and possibly Lawrence Frank

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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 2, 2009 7:31 AM PST up reply actions

Agree. No more Mcmillan
No more Steve Blake as starter

by RONO in HK on Dec 2, 2009 7:36 AM PST reply actions

The ideal starting lineup...

1 Spot – Jerryd Bayless
2 Spot – Jerryd Bayless
3 Spot – Brandon Roy
4 Spot – LaMarcus Aldridge
5 Spot – Greg Oden

BAROB!!!

Toss the season in the dumpster and get Bayless some playing time!

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Dec 2, 2009 7:42 AM PST reply actions

this is funny

I didnt read the rest of the comments, so I am not sure if someone has mentioned this but…

“BROY Shut up and play

Lamarcus Stop playing soft

Oden Start dominating not playing

Catfish We need you! you too Batum"

You pointed out what was going wrong, but I dont see Nates name in there… Its the players not the coach.

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by jpaulson on Dec 2, 2009 9:02 AM PST reply actions

My concern is...

Nate had time to “work” on the issues with the team after the Memphis and Utah debacles and they still came out flat and uninspired. I personally think Nate has lost this team (from a respect level) and it seems apparent to me.

Especially, when you throws out such gems as “we’ve got to figure it out” and “we need to play with scrappiness”.

One of your jobs as a coach is to motivate your players and Nate has proven (at least to me) that he is not up to the challenge.

Now, I’m not saying that he can’t learn to be a better coach, but all accounts that I’ve heard indicate he is as stubborn as they come and, with the relatively short life-span of coaches in this league and the uber-high expectations on this team, I think he will be the first victim…if they continue to play uninspired ball.

Only time will tell.

by OmoriumVerum on Dec 2, 2009 9:04 AM PST reply actions

if he's lost the team

then the team should look around and realize they’re losing because of it.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez

by ratbastird on Dec 2, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions

Also

if they’re playing like they are to rebel against Nate… I’d want to get rid of every single player who was doing it. nate irks me, but that’s no reason to not want to win games. You play and be professional regardless and you follow the game plan.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez

by ratbastird on Dec 2, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions