Game 8 Preview: Blazers vs. Grizzlies
Game Time: 5:00 p.m. Pacific TV: Comcast
Yeah, Memphis is in trouble.
They're not in trouble because they've (at least temporarily) lost Allen Iverson. He was never a good fit with their roster and his being absent will probably end up a blessing to them as much as anything. At least it'll be clear that the hope of this team is still its young wings and not an old wingnut. They're not in trouble because they lack talent. Rudy Gay, O.J. Mayo, Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol, Mike Conley...there are worse lineups in the NBA. They're in trouble because it's the same old story with the Grizzlies: somebody scores 25 or 30 or 40 each night, they amass a lot of stats, and they lose because they can't stop anybody from scoring 115 on them. They're a video game more than a team.
Case in point: Rudy Gay. Leading scorer. Good size at 6'8" and 230. One of the best pure athletes in the league. He's legitimately terrifying on the break. Quick as a hummingbird blinking. Soars like a hawk. And plays such chicken [stuff] defense that his own teammates (not exactly the Steel Curtain themselves) are calling him out. His 51% shooting, 22 a night...they're no good. Or not as much good as they should be. He leaves the team playing 4-on-5 on the other end and there goes 50.5% shooting for the entire opposing team.
Case in point: O.J. Mayo. He's a good ball-handler. He sees the court. He's got talent coming out his ears and could be one of the dominant point guards in the league. But he loves to shoot. He's more comfortable at off-guard. Except at 6'4" and 210 pounds your once-dominant point guard gets pushed around at the two. He dropped 40 on the Nuggets last week. Brilliant. But he took 25 shots to do it. He took 20 shots to get 22 the next night. When he doesn't dominate the scoring his numbers get more pedestrian. Gay, who also likes to score, is apparently not Mayo's biggest fan.
Case in point: Zach Randolph. I probably don't have to explain this one in present company.
These are good players, as are Conley and Gasol. They're just not good together. Memphis has taken the kind of player you could stand having one of on your team and collected multiple copies. Each has talent. Each has huge shortcomings. The shortcomings are getting exposed more than the talent is shining.
What do the Grizzlies like to do? They like to score. They'll run if they can. They're a good offensive rebounding team. You're not afraid to have any of the main guys shoot. Their big guys have range. Their small guys have more range. They'll sucker you in with it and then drive and create free throws. They'll post and spin any direction. They'll dunk. They'll dipsy-doodle. If it deals with putting the ball in the bucket they're good at it. They have a puncher's chance in any given contest. There's always the possibility that they'll simply outscore you.
The Grizz are also good rebounders up and down the line, getting their hands on a ton of balls off the glass. Marc Gasol has become a beast in this area.
What don't the Grizzlies like to do? Almost anything else. They aren't good individual defenders. They don't help out or rotate well. They don't bother the passing lanes. They don't block shots. They can't watch the post. They can't cover distance shooters. They often get caught flat-footed and staring. Plus they don't pass the ball well and they turn it over a bunch. A good rebounding team with that kind of athleticism should be generating more shot attempts than their opponents but the Grizz average three fewer. Combined with a woeful field goal percentage deficit (47.4% to 50.5%) they're hamstrung before they start. It's even worse from the arc. Memphis attempts 10.6 threes a game and shoots 36.5% on them. Their opponents have combined for 18.6 three-point attempts per game and they average 44.6%. Most of the best shooters in the league don't hit 44.6% of their threes but entire teams are doing it against the Grizz. With those disadvantages weighing them down their extra foul shots don't matter.
It's understandable why Memphis tows a 1-6 record behind them into this game. The one mitigating factor is that they've been on a five-game road trip for the last 9 days. They're actually 1-1 at home, the lone victory coming against the Raptors. They'll want to rebound tonight. They'll have some fans behind them. They probably also have some pride. They'll want this to be a game that changes the course of their early season. It's up to Portland not to let it become that.
Pivotal Points to the Game
1. You can let Memphis score 100, you just can't let them score 130. And trust me, they can. You're not going to stop all of their individual scorers. You want to contain the damage to one or two guys and generally make them pay for trying to get more people involved. Play Conley for the pass, play everyone else for the shot. Somebody scores 30, somebody scores 20, you win.
2. The Blazer centers versus Gasol should be a pivotal matchup. Oden has to be wary of foul trouble when the Grizz attack the rim. He doesn't need to score on Gasol as much as police the boards and keep offensive rebounds from the entire Memphis team. Przybilla needs to continue the rebounding when he gets in.
3. Get back in transition.
4. Exploit turnovers.
5. Learn your lesson from the ‘Wolves game Sunday night. Share the ball and find the easy shot on each possession. Run when you can. If not, penetrate and either finish, get fouled, or dish for the open three. Every basket that's not right at the rim should have an assist attached tonight just like Sunday. No one-on-on fests. No jumpers off of a held ball. Just please...make it as easy as the Grizzlies will let you.
6. If LaMarcus scores as much as Zach this game will be easier.
Final Thoughts
Extended road trips are always difficult. The trick is to win the games you should so that the tougher games make the difference between a good and great trip, not an average or disappointing one. This is actually something the Blazers have done well during this era. Let's hope it continues.
Check out the Grizzlies point of view at StraightOuttaVancouver.com and at 3ShadesofBlue.com.
Enter the Jersey Contest form here. (Yes, we're getting the roster revamped.)
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Hopefully we can use Greg offensively
2. The Blazer centers versus Gasol should be a pivotal matchup. Oden has to be wary of foul trouble when the Grizz attack the rim. He doesn’t need to score on Gasol as much as police the boards and keep offensive rebounds from the entire Memphis team. Przybilla needs to continue the rebounding when he gets in.
This is all true, but if we can run some plays through Greg and draw some fouls on Gasol, it could make it all a lot easier.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
by jscot on Nov 10, 2009 12:12 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
"The Blazer centers versus Gasol should be a pivotal matchup"
Yes….literally pivotal
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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I didn’t make that pun, it was Dave’s, and it blew right past me.
That’s a block quote, Junior. That’s what it means when something is in a gray box that way. It means someone else said it, not me, and I thought it was worth bringing to your attention because I wanted to say something important about it.
Don’t they teach kids anything in schools these days? These youngsters don’t even know their way around the Internets. In my day, schools taught kids the things they needed to know for life. Now, all you do is sit around and hold hands and sing Kumbayah and stuff.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
Your omniscience is slipping, text-alted one.
Block-quotes usually don’t show on my system for some reason. I thought you knew details like that.
I probably should have caught that it was Dave’s quote anyway, but who cares? I’m not aspiring to be the FROTW.
Heavy-handed is the head that wears the e-crown.
If you don’t want the rec, give it to 92, who never looks a gift rec in the mouth.
Someday you’ll wish you had that rec back.
I don't need more recs
They inflate my ego, which is already insufferable. To other people, that is. To me, it’s perfect.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
6. LMA scoring
Not only does the game seem easier when he is scoring on the break and drives into the middle, it’s funner to watch
Yea. This is a game where Lamarcus, Brandon, and Andre all have big mismatches.
Each should score 18+ in a balanced attack.
Gasol will give Oden some trouble inside. It would be a great step for Greg to dominate on the road though. Fingers crossed on that.
I say Blazers 97 / Memphis 93
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 10, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
I'll call the over
No way these teams don’t reach 100pts in a 3 guard lineup. The D is terrible. Z-bo on LA should give him a chance to go beast mode.
I know. That's why I picked for this game to turn sloppy.
I just think the Blazers are going to play good D but stoop to Memphis’ level enough to go through scoreless spurts…
I hope I’m wrong and it’s more entertaining than that though!
And by the way: when does our franchise get some payback for the Miles salary cap assault Memphis pulled last year? That was punk. We should be blowing this team out each and every chance we get for the next couple seasons.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 10, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Oooooooopppppppsssss
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
not to mention
it will be Z-Bo defending him. LaMarcus could speed-walk down the court and be dunking before Zach crosses half-court.
Except in the past
It was mostly Z-bo owning LA, not the other way around. I’m just hoping Aldridge can keep up this time around.
This is the worst defensive team in the league
Gay makes Travis look like a tall Gary Payton,Z-bo has lost some lard and has come to realize that assists are a stat too. They are better than Minny,NY,NJ and maybe Sac,you know they stink,no excuse not to crush them and rest the starters.
by southern oregon on Nov 10, 2009 12:28 AM PST reply actions
I swear I've seen this exact comment several times over the years and in several different forums.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
I think this will be a high scoring affair on both sides
Of course, we’ll score higher.
I almost picked Ike for most turnovers after G.O. but figured he wouldn’t be seeing the court tonight at all…
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Nov 10, 2009 12:35 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I'm thinking it might be Sergio
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
We should see #5 against all bad teams
The Blazers have so much depth that if someone isn’t running or takes bad jump shots we can put someone else in and not have a dropoff (Roy and LMA being the exceptions). As has already been pointed out, they are likely going to get points, so their best chance of winning is forcing a lot of jumpers and hoping for misses. There’s no way they should be able to keep up with us if we run and I love the idea of comparing how fast LMA gets down the court with Z Bo. Going against their 3 guards will be a good test for how our 3 guard lineup is defensively and if Oden can play more than 24 minutes.
Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.
We had better not get in a track meet with Memphis and make a lot turnovers.
The Wolves game Sun night meant absolutely nothing. It was fool’s gold. Like I said last night they are a D-league team. They lost by 41 (146-105) to Golden State tonight.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 10, 2009 3:14 AM PST reply actions
3 Shades of Blue has an interesting perspective.
In looking at the starting lineup matchups they say that Blake and Miller each have an advantage over Conley and Mayo. I think that is very kind of them to say so. Miller I can see, but Blake? I like blake, but I don’t know that I’d give a positional advantage to him over either backcourt player for Memphis.
But when they say that Gay has the advantage over Roy, I think they lose some credibility. That’s not to say that Gay wont be statistically better than Roy in this game. I think that is indeed possible, but I’m not sure that makes for an advantage. The same story when they say that Zack Randolph has an advantage over LaMarcus Aldridge.
They’re not particularly high on Oden, but I can give them the benefit of the doubt here. And if Oden gets knocked out of the game with fouls early, then they’ll be right. If not, I think Oden’s defense is a bigger factor than Gasol’s offense, but it depends on what happens in the game. I’d put it at too close to call.
Of course, I’m a Blazers fan and they’re Grizzlies fans. And I’m not afraid to admit that I’m a homer. :p
πάτερ, ἄφες αὐτοῖς, οὐ γὰρ οἴδασιν τί ποιοῦσιν.
What I couldn't understand about that post
was how they could give a reasonable examination of the Roy/Gay matchup and then conclude that it is an advantage for Memphis without really outlining why it was. They say, Roy was ROY and Gay was runner up; Roy got to the all-star game, and Gay hasn’t; Roy got to the play-offs and Gay hasn’t… Pardon me, but how is Gay’s lack of defense on one of the top offensive players in the league an advantage for Memphis?
I nearly spit out my coffee when I read that Zach Randolph vs. L"e"Marcus Aldridge was a favorable matchup for them.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
LeMarcus
is a homeless guy that lives in the library bathroom. He sells weed for a living, and since Zach once punched him in the face they feel comfortable Zach has the advantage. When they find out is LaMarcus the Blazer, they might have to re-write that section.
by lurtsman on Nov 10, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I like it. I even see people around here spellin’ his name wrong. Guy just got paid, gotta respect him enough to get the name right!
"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 10, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Is there a GM anywhere who would take the Grizzlies' front line over the Blazers'?
Shades of Blue apparently thinks so.
by MiledAnimal on Nov 10, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Nice apostrophe usage
it’s a dying art.
"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 10, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
It's clear that apostrophe lost its place
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
It's risible how bad Memphis's front office has been the last couple of years
Hey, let’s trade Pau to save money! Hey, let’s take on Z-Bo’s even worse contract to replace Pau! Hey, let’s not tender a decent offer to Rudy Gay so when somebody signs him in July 2010 as a consolation prize after losing out in the LeBron sweepstakes, we can shrug and say, “We tried, oh well”! Let’s sign Allen Iverson, one of the NBA’s highest-usage players on a team that already boasts three of them, apparently not even discuss his role with him before signing him, and then profess to be shocked when he storms out like the malcontent he is when he’s not getting minutes and touches!
Somebody should put together a youtube video detailing all of Wallace/Heisley’s transactions over the past two-plus years and interspersing it with clips and music from Benny Hill.
"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov
This is why I would want KP to deal with Memphis
The Griz’ front office is liable to do anything…like give us Marc Gasol or MCJ for Travis Outlaw. Crazy? Never happen? Tell that to L*ker fan
It’s time to let bygones be bygones re: Darius Miles. Smile, shake hands, and insert dagger
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I don’t have to explain this one to present company….
that’s just mean dave.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."
-Dave
These should be easy wins for us
however they aren’t going to tell much about us as a team just because we win all of them by 20, should we do that. Minn and Mem are horrible. A three game win streak doesn’t mean all the ofensive issues are solved, and it won’t mean all the “critics” are silenced. If you think the losses were an abberation, then don’t put to much meaning into wins against bad teams either…..
That said, we should easily be on a three game win streak by Fri.
Go Blazers! Let Dre take the wheel on the floor Nate!
I was watching Memphis lose the other night
That team has serious, SERIOUS chemistry problems. I’m convinced Gay and Mayo hate each other.
Blazer Fan
Case in point, end of the game Gay dribbles down the court and forces a 3 with two guys in his face
Gay lays a brick.
Mayo, who’s guy came over to double-team Gay and who is now wide open, gives Gay a look like “are you serious???”
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Nov 10, 2009 7:51 AM PST up reply actions
The Grizz should trade for Ray Allen, Austin Daye, Aaron Gray, and Sean May.
Then they could field a team of May Daye, Gay Ray, & Gray Mayo.
by MiledAnimal on Nov 10, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
but you doesn't have to call me Johnson
“you can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay…”
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
About the poster/commentator about that Heinz tv add: What a load of crap.
If he knew anything about marketing, he’d realize that just because a small portion of people complained doesn’t mean that they’re the only ones that took offense. Most people who find something offensive don’t go directly to their phone and call the company that offended them. Most people have better things to do, more productive ways of expressing their offense, like a mute button or changing their brand of mayo. Regardless of his opinion on those people’s moral values, their opinion still matters.
I know what he had to say wasn’t what you were trying to get at with the post of the video, but stupidity is a pet-peeve of mine and that guy was oozing it from every pore.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Yeah
Gay Mayo just sounds like a product to me so I Googled it.
I am the Nathan Jawai of Blazers Edge.
Rudy Gay. Leading scorer. Good size at 6’8" and 230. One of the best pure athletes in the league. He’s legitimately terrifying on the break.
Quick has memtioned Gay’s name several times when he was asked about which “special fit” players that KP is interested in. Why? That’s not for me to say, but remember the Blazers targeted He-o (no D, get it?) last July and were willing to overpay to get Turk. So tonight, there’s another chance for Blazer fans to play “the scout” and evaulate a wing-man who’s allegedly high on KP’s wish list.
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I can’t remember the last time Quick was right about something GM-related.
free bayless
by Cablinasian on Nov 10, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Always embarass Stat Bo
That’s always a good thing to do.
Let’s have a classic Stat Bo night, 20 points, 15 boards, 1 assist on 9-25 shooting.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Im sure you already aware of this
But on the jersey contest, the category of who will have the most assist needs to be updated. I wanted to pick Miller but hes not on the list, but Shavlick and Ike Diogu still are. LOL, I picked Blake instead of Miller but Blake probably will protect the ball. Anyways, just thought Dave or Ben or the moderaters might want to know.
The Dude: Hey, careful, man, there's a beverage here!
by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions
scratch most assist and put in turnovers
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by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 10, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
It should be fixed
but maybe they can’t change it in tonight’s form without borking up people’s picks.
If it doesn’t get fixed in a reasonable amount of time then the question is going to be a push so we don’t mess things up.
—Dave
Can we get rid of the Jarrett Jack in the picture on the game form, as well?
He’s the one jumping with Roy and Aldridge…
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
I can see Gasol giving Oden fits...
He’s a pretty big body and more athletic than he looks. I am not saying he’s going to be blocking Greg’s shots but he will make him work hard for position all night. He could get Greg in foul trouble but so could the Gay Mayo if we don’t keep them it out of the paint (I’m talking to you Roy and Blake!).
The Z-bo vs LMA matchup could be a scoring fiesta. Z-bo tends to get his but he ain’t going to stop LMA in any way.
Bench is in our favor by a huge margin.
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