Full Court Press
In case you missed them, the Blazers won both their games this weekend. On Friday, they topped the Spurs. Here is a Game Recap and a Media Row Report. On Sunday, they destroyed the terrible Timberwolves. Here is a Game Recap and a Media Row Report.
The big news of the weekend, of course, was Nate McMillan's new 3 guard starting lineup: Andre Miller, Brandon Roy, Steve Blake, LaMarcus Aldridge and Greg Oden. Congratulations to Brian T. Smith of The Columbian for scooping everyone with the news of the lineup change on Friday night.
Congratulations also to Blazers Broadcaster Mike Barrett (and his father Duane Barrett) for being inducted into West Albany's Sports Hall of Fame. (link via DwightJaynes)
Here's the single best basketball story you'll read all week: Pete Thamel of the New York Times goes to Israel to check in on high schooler Jeremy Tyler's progress.
As you read that piece I imagine you'll start thanking your lucky stars for Greg Oden.
Click through for this week's trip around the internet...
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Brian T. Smith on the lineup...
Miller stated that "there was a good flow," with a strong mix between half-court and fast-break basketball.
Meanwhile, Blake said he simply enjoyed the ability to sprint up the court and play side by side with Miller and Roy.
"It's new for me to not be bringing the ball up and just to run the floor," Blake said. "It was fun. I enjoy playing with Andre in that capacity. And it's nice to have a lot of guys that can handle (the ball) and make reads."
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said before the start of Friday's game that the Blazers would be "smarter" by having Blake and Miller on the court at the same time.
Brian T. Smith on Rudy's uncertain role in the new lineup...
"Right now, I don't know my situation in the team," said Fernandez, who dealt with back spasms during training camp and missed four preseason games. "Blake play in the 2 (guard) position. For sure (that) is one more player in that position. Right now, I'm focusing in my work and taking (care of) my back. And when I'm on the court, play hard to help my teammates."
Fernandez, a native of Palma de Mallorca, Spain, added that he is losing money by playing in the NBA, rather than starring in his home country.
"For me, it's wait my turn ... and play hard," Fernandez said. "It doesn't matter if it's five minutes, 10 minutes or 35."
John Hollinger (insider) on last night's game...
Suggestion from a friend at last night's Blazers-Wolves game: that I keep track of so-called "flaming bag" passes, when a guard delivers the ball to a player who isn't open with two seconds or less on the shot clock. My spy swears one Blazer in particular did this at least four times last night. We'll take it up with the league office.
On a more serious note, the Blazers' shift to a three-guard lineup seems to be paying dividends based on our admittedly limited two-game sample. Portland shredded San Antonio and Minnesota over the weekend, and more importantly, the Blazers played the kind of defense they'll need to in order to challenge the West's elite.
The Blazers now rank 10th in the NBA in defensive efficiency, and while that's based on five home games in their first seven contests, it also came against one of the league's most difficult slates if you buy the early-season results.
Dwight Jaynes on the lineup...
I believe this is some sort of transitional lineup - a way to ease into putting Blake on the bench. Well, OK, but if that's the case, the team would be better off going to it right away, to get the bugs out of it.
A lot of people will dismiss this post as the rantings of a grouchy old cynic. But the deal is, the whole idea of this season is to IMPROVE. Get better - not win 54 games again. Portland should be thinking about what it needs to do to beat the Lakers, the Mavericks and the Nuggets.And really, this new lineup is not going to accomplish that.
Dwight Jaynes on Roy's touches...
What Roy needs to recognize is that if he has the ball in his hands LESS OFTEN he might end up scoring more. That 1-4 set Portland has relied on so much late in games isn't working against good teams that are well prepared. Just as we said all along it wouldn't work forever. At some point, the league adjusts - and watching what Houston did to Roy and the Blazers in the playoff series last season taught everyone a lesson.
What Portland needs to do is get the ball in Miller's hands and let him create for EVERYONE, not just Brandon Roy. Run Roy off picks and get him moving without the ball. Put him in some different spots on the floor - make it harder to lock in those double teams.
Kevin Pelton on last night's game...
For the second straight game, Greg Oden was effective on offense for the Blazers, scoring 11 points in 22 minutes and showing off hooks and floaters in the post. While beating Jefferson one-on-one is not exactly as impressive as how Oden was able to hold his own against Tim Duncan in Friday night's win over San Antonio, it was encouraging nonetheless to see Oden continue to make use of his opportunities in the post. The ability to score down low is obviously there, as Oden demonstrated during the preseason, but something held him back early in the regular campaign. Now, he's playing smart, controlled basketball--he did not have a turnover--and gives the Portland offense a different dimension. Also worth noting: Oden, who had one game of four fouls and five with five coming into Sunday night, picked up just one personal in 22 minutes of action. He can't show off those budding post skills if he's on the bench, so staying out of foul trouble is a must for Oden.
Mike Barrett on last night's game...
Make no mistake, this style of play is extremely contagious. This team that's always looked built to run, was flying up and down the court, racking up highlight after highlight. Even after the occasional turnover in the open court (something that's bound to happen when you play this way), they would go right back and run again. If you know me, you know I've never really cared about the turnover total when it's balanced by other positive numbers. It's risk-reward, and I love the fact that they were willing to roll the dice.
This is why Andre Miller chose Portland, and why McMillan decided to go to this new starting lineup. It won't work this way every night, obviously, but there's no going back now. Well, hopefully we continue to see this, even when other teams make an effort to take it away. And, they will. Everyone scouts the heck out of everyone, so adjustments will be made to try and find weaknesses in this new system.
Joe Freeman with Andre Miller's play-calling duties...
For the first time in his coaching career, McMillan allowed his point guard to call most of the plays as the Blazers defeated the Spurs 96-84 at the Rose Garden on Friday. After McMillan yelled out the first set of the game, Miller essentially took over from there.
"I was a point guard who called my own plays ... so I'm OK with that," McMillan said, referring to his days as a player with the Seattle SuperSonics. "If you know the reads and you have a feel, I don't have a problem with that. There will be times when I will call some sets, but I thought 'Dre did a nice job ... observing what the defense was doing, figuring out who's on who and getting (guys) involved."
Jason Quick with the Blazers pushing the tempo...
The Blazers can, and will, get better at running.
How?
"Defense," Miller said. "Defense can create easy baskets on offense. A lot of people think you can just fast break after a basket, but defensive teams are up there in fast breaks by forcing turnovers."
Ever since coach Nate McMillan arrived in Portland in 2005, he said he wanted the Blazers to run. But Portland has always been among the most deliberate half-court teams in the NBA. McMillan said they didn't run because they didn't get defensive stops. Or that he didn't trust his young point guards to take care of the ball. Or that the players were better suited for halfcourt sets.
Henry Abbott on last night's game...
This season the Blazers have been a bit underwhelming. Brandon Roy is part of the reason -- for whatever reason, he has not been his regular self. Last night the whole team's energy level seemed higher when he was out of the game. That's concerning. There has been a lot of discussion in Portland about Andre Miller not mixing well with Roy, and that could be a factor. But a simpler explanation is that Miller is a guy who has the ball a lot, and Miller has spent most of the season missing shots. One of Miller's great gifts is to get into the paint. But I just watched video of every shot he has taken this season, and a huge percentage of them have been misses. He has also been a very bad spot-up shooter in the young season too. That does three things to Roy -- takes the ball out of his hands, makes his team's offense inefficient, and emboldens defenders to help off Miller onto Roy. Last night, however, when Miller finally hit some shots, the Blazers' offense rolled, even if Roy couldn't hit more than one field goal before taking an early seat in the blowout.
Coup from Rip City Project on last night's game...
Since this wasn't a complete basketball game and it was such a team offensive effort, I'm not going to single anyone out. Everyone gets to go to Roundtable Pizza tonight and have their coach say something nice about them.
Torrid Joe of Loaded Orygun on last night's game...
With Miller in there, the options seem to explode: he can distribute, drive or sometimes pop. But when he distributes to Blake there is a different tree of options for where it goes from there, as opposed to when Miller feeds Roy as the beginning of the play. And god love 'em, but just having Miller on the floor seems to prevent the intermittent sinkhole a Travis/Webster pass becomes, at least to start halves. It almost forces the ball all the way inside, because there's no intermediate step between guard and big man at the forward position to start taking ill-advised long range jumpers.
Runyon of Trail Post writes...
One last stat-head stat: Oden has a PER of 18.5. His opponents average a PER of 6.6. That net of nearly +12 is total and complete domination. Anyone who still wants Joel Przybilla as the starter should see a therapist.
Cory on Bust A Bucket lists his top 10 Power Forwards...
7. LaMarcus Aldridge - Aldridge is a budding star in the league, and he has some God-given abilities that nobody else in the league does. The ultra-high release on his shot makes him difficult to defend in the post, and not many big men in the league are as good with the mid-range jumper. The criticism of Aldridge thus far has been that he is soft. It may be true to an extent, but I don't think he is any more "soft" than other finesse players in the league. He just plays a finesse game, not a power game. He could stand to improve as a rebounder, and let's all hope he doesn't keep drifting more and more to the outside, like Rasheed Wallace started doing throughout his career.
Power Rankings
- Marc Stein: Blazers are 10th (down from 9th)
- John Schuhmann: Blazers are 9th (up from 12th)
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Who is Hollinger talking about with the "flaming bag"?
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
by Arby on Nov 9, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I love that term!
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by timbo on Nov 9, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My friend had a "FLAMING BAG" once
He went to the doctor to get some special cream…..LOL just kidding
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by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 9, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My sources tell me it's Blake
At least that was what he did in the game against the Spurs, delivering the ball to Oden and Miller as the shot clock expired.
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 9, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be Blake
He’s given it to Andre multiple times with less than 5 in the shot clock these past 2 games.
by kobisportsguy on Nov 9, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Clever tactic
Especially when Andre’s outside – no way he makes that shot often so Blake looks better by comparison.
Nah, Blake’s not that devious….he just looks it.
"What happened to Bayless anyway? Did he turn into a pumpkin? Most teams don’t just let #11 picks rot." - Xiane
by MadBlaze on Nov 9, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a win/win for Blake
If Andre misses than it makes Blake good by comparison. If Andre makes the shot then Blake gets an assist.
by trk on Nov 9, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think his motivations are anywhere near unpure
But he has fed Andre late in the clock quite a bit lately in the half court.
by kobisportsguy on Nov 9, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's because the other team sag off Miller, because they know he's not a good shooter,
so he’s open for the pass when other guys like Blake don’t have a good look. They’ll figure out how to play that better. I also think what is happening is that Miller and Blake are both trying to get the ball inside to Oden or LMA, and if Miller doesn’t have a clear pass, he kicks it over to Blake. Blake looks to get it inside, but if the defense shifts to close the passing lane, he kicks it back to Miller. They pass it back and fourth looking to get it in, and then the shot clock gets down, and somebody needs to put it up. They’ve just started this lineup, so I’m sure they will get better quickly, but then the lineup will probably change, since we won’t be able to defend the better teams with that group.
The other issue with this is that the other team is playing Blake to deny the shot. If they have the interior defended, it makes it hard for Miller to drive, which means Blake’s defender can play him tighter. Miller’s defender can help out in the interior if he sags off a bit, which is almost like a free double team on our bigs if Miller doesn’t make his shot. It also means the middle is clogged, so the other team doesn’t need to double Roy. Miller’s guy becomes the help defender, and Roy and Blake’s guys can play them straight up. The way to beat that, is hot shooting, which doesn’t always happen. LMA hitting his turn around jumper may be an essential weapon just to space the paint area. This of course only applies to the half-court sets. I’m looking forward to seeing how things develop over the next few games.
by wingzeta on Nov 9, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
the solution is for Roy to draw double teams off the dribble and be ready
to leave it for a big cutting to the basket or kicking out for an open J
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 10, 2009 12:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
solution
don’t pass the ball to Steve with 5 seconds left on the shot clock…unless he’s wide open behind the 3 point line
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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. I guess.
It does not appear that support sytem surrounding this kid have served him well.
"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)
by G_dubs on Nov 9, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know why? Ben? Dave?
Why are we getting the short end of the stick?
The Blazers announcers have not been used at all for 1 single game this year on NBA League Pass? Not even in our home opener did we get our own announcers. Its just a crying shame to have to listen to the other teams announcers. They dont want to give us props because they root for the other team. I want our announcers for all our home games—doesnt that make sense—home team should get its home announcers! We shouldnt have to listem to other teams announcers at OUR HOME games!!! What is up with this? Please HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
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by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 9, 2009 11:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
ps--I guess im just lucky to get to watch the games
I know some fans dont even get that luxury!
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by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 9, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
on LP broadband (at least the "Choice" version)
Its almost always the home team’s announcers.
by jksnake99 on Nov 9, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not on DirecTV League Pass
Although I did see them offering the Broadband service last night, I should just turn off the sound on my tv, and stream the Blazers announcers off my computer! LOL Then I will hear Blazers announcers while watching the game.!!!!!!!!!!
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by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 9, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Off pace with one another
Since of course the broadband is behind the TV transmission.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 9, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have done this before
You just have to use your dvr to get it in sync. It actually works out pretty well, but replays are off.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
by mxpx5678 on Nov 9, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thats classic
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by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 9, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have LP with Comcast in Maryland
And most nights here they’ve had feeds for both teams’ announcers, except those nights when there were a ton of games.
I think the only game I’ve watched that hasn’t had the Blazers’s announcers, other than the ESPN/TNT games, was the game at Houston (and though it pains me to say it, Clyde is pretty terrible at color commentary).
by MDBlazerfan on Nov 9, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thats cool your stoaked
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by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 9, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On cable in NJ we're now getting a choice of Home and Away feeds
Frequently. It’s pretty nice. I don’t like Mike and Mike much, but at least I don’t get the opponent POV all game long.
Unfortunately, we don’t get HD like I think you do on Direct or Dish.
by Kaboomm on Nov 9, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
USA today also reports the facts on the Jeremy Tyler story in a pretty long article
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/2009-11-05-4224142920_x.htm
“Two games into the season, Tyler is very much a work in progress. He’s averaging just more than seven minutes a game and has scored all of one point. He is already is beginning to confront questions about whether he should have stayed in school.
“I only make history if I succeed. I didn’t come here to fail,” Tyler, sounding both frustrated and determined, said after playing a scoreless 4 minutes in a Haifa victory this week.
Tyler had complained he was bored with high school competition. He now acknowledges a difficult adjustment. No longer the big man on campus, he is just another player on a professional roster, living on his own in a foreign land. There is little socializing with his teammates — grown men, many with families, all trying to carve out professional careers of their own."
A bit of a different perspective on the “going abroad” experience after many writers are now coming around on Brandon Jennings going to Italy for a year now that he is playing very well in the NBA – while initially calling it a bad year.
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 9, 2009 11:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
An interesting point in the Tyler article
His teammates have, for the most part, done their mandatory three-year Israeli Army service. Tyler probably hasn’t had any discipline to speak of. This is a terrific argument for tough love and corporal punishment.
If he wants to be treated like a man, he should act like one. David Robinson was in the Navy, but Jeremy Tyler is a spoiled little punk. I am never one to wish ill on a kid, but he should be made an example of. I hope he grows up and does well like Brandon Jennings.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Nov 9, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That USA Today article raises an interesting point.
Tyler said he was “bored with high school competition”. It seems more likely that the statement would be more accurate if you simply removed the last word. This is a kid who has been told for a long time that he was going to be a highly paid basketball player for his career and that’s precisely when he decided he didn’t need to work on anything else.
The problem was that he appears to think that applies to his game as well as his academics.
But, going back to the original statement, maybe there’s something to be said about being dominant throughout high school. Teenagers can be an easy bunch to move emotionally either way. What happens to an 18 year old who expects to dominate on a regular basis when they find that they can’t do it yet? I know that sounds like something a mentally-tough basketball player wouldn’t worry themselves with, but it’s pretty clear that not all NBA superstars are mentally tough. Maybe a kid needs those four years of confidence boosting before going up in competition level.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on Nov 9, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As pleased as I am with Martell's development and attitude these days
I didn’t like his attitude as a rookie,not out of the question that a dose real world"you are entitled to nothing" reality will wake the kid up.
by southern oregon on Nov 9, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just Think About What it Must Be Like to Be a High School Phenom
Remember how big a deal everything was when you were 17-18 years old? Now, imagine that in your world — high school — you are the biggest, baddest most awesome sob there is.
Everyone is slobbering over you, you read about how awesome you are in the press.
Every other team has no one who is close to being on par with you.
You have absolutely no frame of reference or life experience to help you put all this in perspective because you are still a high school kid.
I know that a wake up call for many kids has to be that first couple of practices in college, when they suddenly learn they were only a big fish in a small pond before, and they are diving into the ocean. He’s learning this, but he’s also alone in a foreign country — which can be tough for adults, let alone someone familiar only with being big man on campus.
Give this kid a break. He’s been pro for 3 months and he’s already getting a reputation. How would feel if the person you were at 18 was how you are judged the rest of your life!
by Anim8rguy on Nov 9, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It also sounds like a lot of this is being fueled by the people close to him.
I don’t have a kid, so I guess I can’t judge or say what I would do. I just don’t see how I would even entertain the idea of my kid skipping his last year of high school to play basketball at a higher level for a salary in another country. It just seems like all of the decisions being made with this kid involve sacrificing everything with the sole purpose of becoming a better basketball player. I think that in this case the problem with that approach has been that they haven’t ended up with a better player because the kid involved hasn’t been prepared mentally for dealing with being a professional. It takes a special kind of focus to go straight from high school to the pros. Very few guys have it.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on Nov 9, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you but it is a judgment he has called upon himself by seeking the publicity
Life becomes real when our choices become consequences beyond our control. It happens to every recruit in armed forces boot camp. Nobody cares about his opinion. Nobody cares about his discomfort. That is real life.
It is a hard road to choose. If he sticks it out and learns from it he will be on his way to becoming a man. If he bails, he will find the D-league even tougher – if he can even get on a team two years from now.
"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster
by lee3022 on Nov 9, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TYLER NEXT STOP
Would you like fry’s with that?
The amount of natural talent and size wasted on Tyler shows that it is all about the money!
GO Martel Travis all could teach him what life is like in the NBA . Hard Work, Good and Bad breaks and a job very few people have.
Tyler is destine to be another over-rated tall basketball player on the junk heap of has-beens and want a be’s . He is a real legend in his own mind!
The fact that the team owner thinks he is creating a future destination for American players who are “BORED” with high school is absurd.
This is going to be my time. Time to taste the fruits and let the juices drip down my chin. I proclaim this the season of Greg!"
by NOWINE on Nov 9, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Truth
Jeremy Tyler is pretty much Eddie Griffin.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Nov 9, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a laughably stupid, hyperbolic statement.
I bet that Jeremy Tyler makes it past the age of 25.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
by AK1984 on Nov 9, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant as far as attitude, not lifespan
Eddie Griffin pissed away all his God-given talent with his lack of respect for authority and refusal to mature into a decent human being. From the looks of that article, Tyler isn’t acting much better, except that he hasn’t got caught with drugs or had legal issues. He has a similar bad attitude.
I’m sure Tyler will survive this, and I am also sure it is VERY good for a punk like him to be around a bunch of military-trained men. Tyler is a huge talent and I want him to succeed, the NBA will be more fun to watch if he is in it and thriving. It’s just that he won’t do it until he grows up.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Nov 9, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I agree that Jeremy Tyler made a horrible life decision to go play overseas in ...
Isreal — which must be a culture shock for the dude — with professional atheltes who, unlike him, probably don’t view their job as nothing but a stepping stone career wise.
In my opinion, Tyler should’ve dropped out of high school, got his GED, played a year of basketball at a community college, went to the D-League the following season at age 18, and then entered the NBA Draft at age 19.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
by AK1984 on Nov 9, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming he can pass the GED!
Seriously – could this path be the only one open to him? If he was failing in school (no evidence this is true and only an if because he does not seem to care about the basic education he left behind) then the school might have been about to deny him eligibility to play basketball. The better path was a prep school majoring in basketball. That way he does get better competition and probably tutors to help with his school studies.
"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster
by lee3022 on Nov 9, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A pretty big point that is only touched on...
is that high school phenoms that lose their way have a lot more to do with the adults in their lives than their own immaturity. For every high school kid who looks like he might have what it takes to be a pro athlete, there are at least 5 vultures circling, looking to cash in. More often than not 2 of them are his parents. With so-called mentors that are really looking out for their own interests, is it any wonder that a kid who shows glimpses of greatness has a hard time living up to their potential?
Imagine the same scenario in a different field: you’re one of the top 5 math students in the country as a high school junior? Great, we’re going to have you bypass your last year of high school, skip college altogether and just make you VP of technology at Intel.
Granted, we’re talking athletics and not academics, but a HUGE part of what is gained in school doesn’t come from books. It’s about socialization. It’s about learning who you can trust. It’s about learning that it’s a big world out there.
by superfly05 on Nov 9, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True, and in his case his main advisor is Sonny Vaccaro, the guy who made Jordan & Co. into marketing stories
Problem is, he actively loathes Stern’s “age limit” for players making the jump to the NBA, and will do almost anything to prove his point. He did it with Jennings, and now tries again.
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 9, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got no [rpblem with an individual whose shrewd marketing skills allow him to exploit naïve ...
teenage basketball players for his own financial gain, especially in an attempt to spit in the face of the unjust age restrictions that were instituted in part by despotic NBA Commissioner David Stern.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
by AK1984 on Nov 9, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got no [rpblem with an individual whose shrewd marketing skills allow him to exploit naïve ...
teenage basketball players for his own financial gain, especially in an attempt to spit in the face of the unjust age restrictions that were instituted in part by despotic NBA Commissioner David Stern.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
by AK1984 on Nov 9, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think your [rpblem might be in your p and your o?
"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster
by lee3022 on Nov 9, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, my mind was moving quicker than my fingers.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
by AK1984 on Nov 9, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For all the stick Jennings got
about character “flags”, he may turn out to be an anomaly in terms of being able to handle a situation like he was in. Although, somewhat counter-intuitively, I think skill players may be better suited to make the transition as opposed to big men like Tyler. After seeing how raw so many big men are coming into the NBA, I can’t even imagine how big a culture shock going to a pro team as a HS junior must be in terms of the huge bump in competition. Going from being able to dominate everyone you play against on size alone to playing against guys his own size is just a massive jump alone.
by Royster on Nov 9, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am kind of amused and annoyed
About all the “Brandon is pissed about the Minnesota game” nonsense. Really guys….
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by skywaker9 on Nov 9, 2009 11:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
he was all smiles and laughter last night
by kobisportsguy on Nov 9, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
But all the media can write about is how unhappy he supposedly is.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Roy is on record about his concerns
the Minnesota game reinforces the issue. I’m all for Miller and Roy playing nice together. I just don’t think Miller has it in him to subjegate his game for the betterment of his teammates. Rather, the majority of fans and media say Roy is the one that needs to make sacrifices.
I dissent from this view. I think Miller needs to remember he can’t shoot, can dribble and pass, and does so accordingly. I also agree that Roy can be an even better player if he can play off the ball as effectively as with the ball.
However, the idea that Roy needs to give up the ball just because Miller is in town is a dangerous concept – one I feel marginalizes Roy.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 9, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Remember he can't shoot?
Miller is a life-time 46% shooter, and averaged better than 47% over the past 3 years. I’ll take that from a PG any day. I think what you are saying is you’d rather he not take shots away from Roy (also a life-time 46% shooter) because Roy needs those touches to be the Man in town.
by Dave R on Nov 9, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I say what I mean, so you don't have to interpret
Roy is better than Miller, and Miller should be the one taking 6 shots a game (from no further than point blank range) and Roy should be shooting 14+
I’ll take 46-47% from a PG too. Any day now would be good.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 9, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
miller provides more balance
Roy just isn’t use to having to catch and shoot. Over time he is good enough to adapt, last night there were at least 5 or 6 times that I was shocked that he didn’t take the shot. He was far more open than he usually is when he shoots his pull up jumper.
We also need to remember that BRoy OFTEN doesn’t score early, he usually blows up in the second half…..last night the second half he was sitting watching Dante bank in 16 footers.
by Alaa Abdelnaby on Nov 9, 2009 7:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Roy has always been good catching and shooting off the screen
However, he can always play better off the ball, particularly inside
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 10, 2009 1:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not about marginalizing Roy, it's about growing him!
I’m confused by your statement that the majority of fans say that Roy is the one that needs to sacrifice (I’m definitely in that camp), with your agreeing that Roy can be better if he can play off the ball (which is the ‘sacrifice’ we’re talking about)…
Look, BRoy has proven to be great in clutch situations. But he does it mainly by doing the same thing – pound the ball into the ground, fake right, go left, lay it up… And he is great at getting to the basket, and getting fouled. He’s a consistent point scorer.
But while consistency can be a good thing, it can also be a bad thing. Don’t under-estimate the effect that Houston’s victory last year had on defenses around the league. Every scout watched each of those games with great interest. Everybody this year has been trying to deny Brandon. The Blazers could not win a championship featuring BRoy iso sets as the primary weapon. They needed to mix things up. Roy does need to give up the ball. Roy is going to get lower per game numbers this year, so yes, he will have to make that sacrifice. But not changing last year’s offense is the only dangerous concept here…
As a solid point guard in the NBA for over a decade Miller has consistently made his players better. Watch Dre exclusively for a while. See him gesticulating coverage on the D. Watch him calling the plays to exploit mismatches. He’s all about sacrifice to make the team better.
It’s sounding to me like Roy’s attitude has been turning around, and that he’s trying to convince himself that it’s better for the team in the long run. Sure, he may not even make the All-Star game if he isn’t scoring 20. But I hope he’s willing to trade that for a championship.
And give this some time. Dre’s only been in charge of the team for 2 games so far… His positive impact on Oden and the Blazers will be immense. It’s going to be fun to watch.
Welcome to the new (Greg Oden) era…
by Visionary2 on Nov 9, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've posted that Roy learning to play off the ball better is a good thing
more shooting guard, less point guard – at least in terms of development. Much is made of PG abilities to create off the dribble. Right now, and early into this new concept, Roy is far, far better at it than Miller.
If it happens because of Miller – GREAT
However, Roy’s pg skills are highly underrated, and Miller is currently playing very similar to Roy in 2008/2009. Dominating the ball and shots – and a lot of those shots are shots he cannot make.
Miller’s shooting has been atrocious so far, and Roy has been better at getting the big’s the ball.
Miller isn’t making his teammates better, so far. Granted, we are only into the season 8 games and there is room for improvement. But all this Miller love is not supported by factual evidence. Miller is the worst shooter on the team, takes way too many bad shots, and has been extremely poor in working with our best player.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 10, 2009 12:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
your Miller hate is not supported by factual evidence...
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by clinchmobb on Nov 10, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the heck is a god-given abilities?
blah blah blah blah lame comment - lame commenter
by Bandwagon Butcher on Nov 9, 2009 12:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Abilities not found in a syringe?
"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster
by lee3022 on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice, from Dwight
In the near term, given the team’s schedule, this move will look fine. I mean, we could start Ben Golliver at the off-guard tonight against Minnesota and be fine.
by Kaboomm on Nov 9, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ben is alright
Manbearpig has a higher PER and is more of a backup banger the Blazers need.
by tominhawaii on Nov 9, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If we're doing this to trasition Miller easier
we should just start him and Webster with Roy so they can get used to it during this easy stretch. Eventually when Blake goes to the bench and Webster starts we’ll have to go through another transition. On the one hand they have won so it’d hard to complain, but this team’s goal is to go deep in the playoffs, not to win games we’d already win by a larger margin.
Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.
by terryisntbald on Nov 9, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly the point Dwight Jaynes made
He’s against the three-guard transitionary phase. Unless the third guard is Ben Golliver.
by Kaboomm on Nov 9, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The game needs to be fun and these last two games have brought that back
Perhaps now the lineup issues will not be a heavy weight and they can go back to the other when the competition dictates.
The question, however, is do they get this down well enough that the opposition has to adjust to them as the Spurs did? With quicker hands and better mobility on the perimeter can they continue to disrupt teams with turnovers and fast breaks thus offsetting some of the size disadvantages?
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by lee3022 on Nov 9, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Ben
That Jeremy Tyler piece was sad, enlightening, and a little scary. Hope he gets his head right.
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I need to stop being so hard on Steve Blake. Even though I'd rather see him as a top 5 backup PG rather than an undersized starting SG, he's a Bazer, he works hard, he has earned respect.
by blazeraddict on Nov 9, 2009 2:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thamel's piece on Jeremy Tyler was pretty poignant.
I hope the kid pulls it together and eliminates the parasites from his life.
Thanks for this!
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by JETisKing on Nov 9, 2009 3:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I need some help understanding something
Dwight says….and I’ve seen this referenced by others here on BEdge…talking about how teams have figured out how to stop Roy from creating his own shot.
and watching what Houston did to Roy and the Blazers in the playoff series last season taught everyone a lesson.
Can someone please explain to me what Houston did to Roy? Because what I saw in the playoffs was that neither Artest nor Batter could stop Roy. He shot 46% from the field, 47% from behind the arc, and averaged 26.7 points, 3 assists and 5 boards per game.
Yes, they shut down many of the other Blazers, but I just don’t see that they did anything to Roy.
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by antediluvian on Nov 9, 2009 4:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, most people talk about how Houston manhandled the Blazers when in fact a 6 point
swing has the Blazers winning that series 4 games to 2.
Most people aren’t paying close attention most of the time.
by raoulduke on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
the point is
that our offense was so one-dimensional and predictable, that we became easy to defend. Buckets were EXTREMELY difficult to come by, and only Roy’s one on one brilliant play even kept us close. But the cost of that was everyone else standing around watching him work isolations all night long. That kind of offensive predictability and lack of scoring easy opportunities will never take you deep into the playoffs.
How did you guys win that?
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by douglast on Nov 9, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
I would give you a billion recs if I could. Terrific summary.
free bayless
by Cablinasian on Nov 9, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So other players standing around is Roy's fault?
I am not disagreeing that involving more players is better for the team.
I have just read too many statements that the Rockets handled Roy in thh playoffs. I would argue that they handled everyone BUT Roy….and that was the key to their success. Maybe it’s semantics, but I still disagree that the Rockets handled Roy.
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by antediluvian on Nov 9, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've often been frustrated by lack of motion
A lot of times the team runs the Cavs offense where the other 4 guys just stand around. The 3 guard lineup has increased motion off the ball, so I’m hoping this becomes a habit and they keep it up if they go back to starting Webster eventually.
Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.
by terryisntbald on Nov 9, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To answer your question...
Yes. Other players standing around is Roy’s fault. OK, maybe Nate should get more than 50% of the blame. But Brandon has not shown himself to be a quick thinker on the court. (IMO, that’s why he’s not productive on the break.) I believe he needs all the motion to stop so he can plan how he’s going to break his defender down. I could be way off, but that’s what it seems like to me.
You are correct in your semantical point. The Rockets didn’t handle Roy as much as they handled the Blazers predictable offense, spear-headed by the BRoy iso. They didn’t let Roy beat them. So now we have to build some new ways to win. Even you agree that involving more players is better for the team. That’s what we’re doing now.
by Visionary2 on Nov 9, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I understand you correctly
You’re saying Roy can’t make quick decisions on the court and needs everyone else to slow down for him to be effective?
I think – just an observation here – that your comment is the most negative thing I’ve ever read about Brandon Roy’s game. And I have no idea on what you’re basing it.
But it’s notable. Your comment is certainly notable.
by sagcat on Nov 10, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was a little more complicated than that
The Rockets had good defenders all over the court. They didn’t keep Roy out of the paint, but Once he got there, Roy couldn’t get a shot up over Yao. That was the killer.
Meanwhile, the refs wouldn’t call a foul on Yao, even when he STOOD INSIDE THE RESTRICTED ZONE and body slammed Roy, so by default the Blazers spent most of their time shooting outside jumpers.
It wasn’t really a matter of “standing around.” It was a matter of being denied the paint.
by Kaboomm on Nov 9, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
there was one play in particular that I'm going to use as an example
I think it was in game 3, or maybe 4, down in Houston. Roy drives the ball to the left of the lane, he is cut off by Hayes and his shot is blocked by Battier. Brandon is charged with an offensive foul
I remember Dwight “going off on” the Blazer’s “one-dimmensional” offense on Talkin’ Ball after that game. Of course, Roy came back to score 42 in game 5, but the consensus after game 6 was that Roy and LMA were kept relatively under control by the Rockets and there was no 3rd scoring option that could be depended upon (Outlaw and Blake had a particularly dreadful series against Houston) So the Blazers pursued first Hedo and then Miller in July to help “diversify” their offense.
And we’ve just seen some positive results of that, during the last 2 games
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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
26.7.....increased by 4 ppg over the regular season.....
not sure that is being kept in control. Blake, Outlaw, heck pretty much everyone else was kept under control.
Roy, not so much.
But that’s just my opinion. ;-)
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by antediluvian on Nov 9, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
team defense
We can be easy to defend in the instances where Brandon goes iso up top. Good defensive teams know how to play it. Look at Atlanta last week… Houston as well in the playoffs. Roy got his, but nobody else did jack.
by kobisportsguy on Nov 9, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the ultimate stat
Houston 4, Blazers 2
Even Brandon agreed that he needed some veteran help, after the series. Jordan scored a lot of points in the playoffs as well, but he didn’t win a ring until he learned how to make his teammates better. Miller will help expedite that process, for Roy
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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Part of the reason Roy scored more is because he became more selfish
There were a bunch of times in the Houston series where Roy drove to the basket, collapsed the defense, and then took a tough, contested shot instead of kicking the ball out to open shooters. Roy’s scoring increased by 4 per game, but his assists went down by 2.3 per game despite getting more minutes. I can’t help but think that those extra 4 ppg for Brandon came at the expense of 5 or more ppg for other players who Roy decided not to pass to.
The team had bigger problems than Roy though. Batum basically contributed nothing, Outlaw hit less than 1/3 of the shots he took, Oden couldn’t stay out of foul trouble, and Przybilla was a liability on both ends of the court.
by trk on Nov 9, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The open shooters were open because they were not shooters?
Roy realized (as most fans realized) that Roy was the primary and secondary scorer. Outlaw is the normal pressure relief that was stuck shut most of the series. They were a good defensive team for all of those reasons that Roy had little choice. I would not call that selfish.
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by lee3022 on Nov 9, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always feel sorry for these American basketball players that go abroad
They never seem to be happy, they never make friends, never learn the language or integrate into the culture.
Even Paul Shirley, probably one of the most astute NBA players, made no effort to learn Spanish when he played in Spain.
I don’t see how it can be a satisfying year if you go in with the expectation that the only thing that will make you happy is doing well on the court.
by Liface on Nov 9, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree - it seems like the players who have done well have embraced the local culture
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by lee3022 on Nov 9, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking the key to success is
“For the first time in his coaching career, McMillan allowed his point guard to call most of the plays as the Blazers defeated the Spurs 96-84 at the Rose Garden on Friday. After McMillan yelled out the first set of the game, Miller essentially took over from there. "
Is Blake a security blanket for Brandon ? Rudy/Martell need to get moved in, and we are operational.
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by Berkeley on Nov 9, 2009 4:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is Bayless a better version of Willie Green?
watching the Suns/76ers game on NBA TV. i remember when Willie Green came into the league and was supposed to be a scoring machine and coaches kept trying to make him into a point guard. then he ripped up his knee. never could really shoot. at least Bayless is starting to show that – which he did in college.
i guess the benefit of the doubt goes to Bayless in that his work ethic is prob a million times better. it would be a waste to still see him being a back-up guard 10 yrs into the league.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Nov 9, 2009 5:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bayless is a half-season of regular playing time from being the best pg on the roster
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 9, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right team
Wrong player.
IMO, Bayless will become a better distributing version of Lou Williams possibly with a better 3pt shot.
That would do fine for our starting pg over the next few years.
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by MadBlaze on Nov 9, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good example
wasn’t willie green just as explosive as Lou Williams before he got hurt? if Bayless has anything close to Andre Miller’s career, i’d be ecstatic…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Nov 9, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Willie Green is more of a jump shooter and Louis Williams is a dribble-drive guy.
While there are numerous similarities between Williams and Jerryd Bayless — especially the ability to draw fouls — many of those similarities are negative qualities. Like Williams, Bayless isn’t a legitimate point guard, has a history of inefficiency at mid-range and long-range jumpers, gets burned on defense often due to poor technique and physical limitations, et cetera.
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Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
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by AK1984 on Nov 9, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda with you up until the last point.
Lou Williams is a decent defender who is certainly passable and from what I’ve seen is proficient at staying in front of his man in 1 on 1 situations. He still needs to work on some fundamentals for sure but getting burned often I don’t agree with.
As you would expect, I would rather focus on the positive elements of the comparison. Foul rate is one of these, although Bayless is far better per minute in this regard. They are both incredibly quick, which is an invaluable skill to have in a pg nowadays. Neither are traditional point guards but Williams has excelled this year starting at the 1 next to Iguodala, who has similarities to Roy as a distributing sg, just as I believe Bayless will starting next to Roy. As for inefficiency on mid and long range jumpshots, I would like to give Bayless at least the entirety of his second year in the league to determine if he has improved in this regard. The small sample size so far says yes, both in terms of technique and results, but it would be wrong to put much credence in that at this stage.
I guess what it comes down to is that I feel Williams is a good type of player for Bayless to grow into (albeit with a couple of improvements) if he wants to be our starting pg, whereas you do not.
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by MadBlaze on Nov 10, 2009 12:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The 2 pg's starting may be partly attributable to better ball movement
But I also think having Blake on the floor while the team is transitioning to a quicker pace is a pacifier for Nate. Rudy gives you at least as good ball movement, shoots as well (usually), is no worse defensively, and moves better without the ball than Blake. However, while Rudy has great floor vision, he doesn’t have the same level of impulse control when it comes to risky passes. I think Nate’s very anxious about opening things up on the break and having a low turnover guy like Steve on the floor is his security blanket.
by JMoon on Nov 9, 2009 5:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rudy agrees with you
so do more than a few amateur observers. Blake is the obvious candidate to lose minutes, but Martell needs to be worked into the lineup as well. Crying shame how little run he gets considering his intangibles.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 9, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Martell should benefit as well
the distinction between he and Rudy is that Martell is a finisher only (shot or dunk) and Rudy is a mix of decision making and finishing. If Martell is to thrive in the open court, then I think Roy needs to get more comfortable making decisions in transition so Martell can concentrate on finishing (shouldn’t be too big a problem for Brandon).
Will be that much more interesting when Batum comes back as I think he is capable of making decisions and handling on the break better than Martell. That being said, Martell spreads the floor better and finishes at least as well. Defensively, they complement each other nicely, with Martel being the better defender on physical 3’s and Batum better on pretty much everybody else.
by JMoon on Nov 9, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think Blake is underrated.
I’m not saying Rudy is overrated either. I’m just saying Blake’s experience is very important this year. This is an incredibly young team and Rudy does take a lot of risks like you point out.
Also, Blake has hit huge, game altering 3s late in the 4th quarter. I agree with you in principle though. Rudy is the next ‘Blake’, no doubt.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 9, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have nothing against Blake
I just hope his vet experience can be used to transition the team to a style that will bring about his obsolescence. The terms "pacifier and “security blanket” are probably needlessly pejorative (to Steve and Nate), but I do think there are more talented guys ready to run, and they need the experience to do it effectively.
by JMoon on Nov 9, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good point
don’t even have to say “more talented guys” just equally talented small forwards, better for the position, will do it.
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by Berkeley on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a good thought
Nate gets the best of both worlds – a deadeye shooter and someone who will pull the ball back and settle the offense if need be. I’d like to see the minute split between Rudy and Steve closer to 20-25 each nightly, but the team is looking good, and if Nate thinks this is the way it’s happening I’m willing to trust him
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I need to stop being so hard on Steve Blake. Even though I'd rather see him as a top 5 backup PG than an undersized starting SG, he's a Bazer, he works hard, he has earned respect.
by blazeraddict on Nov 9, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm ok with your split in the short term
as long as it leans toward Rudy/others as time goes on.
by JMoon on Nov 9, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm thinking
It will be a gradual process if it happens, but I’d like to see more court-time for (in order) Rudy and Martell. Both can shoot it, and each adds a different dynamic to the game, so hopefully they can earn those minutes.
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I need to stop being so hard on Steve Blake. Even though I'd rather see him as a top 5 backup PG than an undersized starting SG, he's a Bazer, he works hard, he has earned respect.
by blazeraddict on Nov 9, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Swap Rudy for Steve and who scores in the 2nd unit and who defends the 2's?
The beauty oft he 3-guard lineup is the backup group can get you 8-10 points up on the other team’s backups most nights. That forces the opponent to play their starters long minutes when our starters are resting. And once that spread is obtained the starters only have to keep pace with their starters. If finally uses all our depth but it does leave Rudy short of minutes but long on shot opportunities he would not get with the starters.
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by lee3022 on Nov 9, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Up Close at the Twolves Game
I got to see my first game last night, and had some incredible seats.
Got to hear Al Jefferson complain to the refs on his first call against Oden because “he’s too damn big” and watched Rudy shooting before the 2nd half miss 6 straight 3’s. Oden wouldn’t even miss 6 in a row. Rudy’s energy is awesome though, a little manic but fun.
by Alaa Abdelnaby on Nov 9, 2009 7:43 PM PST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
"He's too damn big"
Oden is the BlazersEdge!
He is just starting…
by Sashland on Nov 9, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Oden is doing great,
I am not worried about him any more, he is becomming what we drafted him to be. He is healthy. He is already a force for the competition to reckon with. He has a great attitude, and improvement is apparrent. The team is just finding its way now, and as has been pointed out, we do have a lot of new “factors” to incorporate, include getting Greg the ball. He will get over his “butterfingers”, if he has to pop a few balls first. Lot’s of upside.
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by Berkeley on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Think we could pull this off as a nickname?
Maybe just Edge….wouldn’t make sense to anyone outside of Blazer fandom but would be awesome for us.
Have heard ‘The Dentist’ come up a few times in columns due to his chose profession before bball but don’t know how it really applies to his style of play.
Gotta have something better than GO and BRoy for the guys who are gonna be our best players over the next decade. Even LA has L-Train.
NB. Guy at BTPH has decided Roys nickname should be Daggers, see , think I even prefer the Natural to that.
This is going to be a summer mission of mine. Nicknames for all Blazers by playoff time.
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by MadBlaze on Nov 10, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller -Lloyd (his middle name)
LaMarcus – Ellie (short for Ellie Mae)
free bayless
by Cablinasian on Nov 10, 2009 12:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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