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Game 7 Recap: Blazers 116, Timberwolves 93

I didn't get to watch the game until late.  Apologies for the tardiness of the game recap.

Smashing good show for Portland tonight, with emphasis on the smash.  But that's exactly what the Blazers needed to do to Minnesota.  The ‘Wolves weren't fielding a complete team and they don't have the talent or continuity at this point to hang with Portland unless Portland allows them to do so.  This is exactly the type of game Portland needs to get used to taking every time if they want to bolster that record.  Job well done.

In the earliest moments of the game it looked like the Blazers might make this one harder than it needed to be.  Portland's first 6 offensive possessions consistent of an Aldridge 20-foot miss, a reverse dipsy-doodle by Oden from underneath the backboard which also missed, a Roy missed three, a 20-footer from Blake which connected, two Miller free throws, and a 22-foot miss from Aldridge.  That's a lot of jump shooting against a team that doesn't move its feet quickly.  Meanwhile the Blazers were letting the ‘Wolves pass the ball on the other end of the court, a huge mistake since they basically can't do it.  I had the antacid ready.  But then the light bulb switched on.  The Blazers tightened the screws and started to run out.  The next buckets were an assisted jumper, an assisted dunk, another assisted jumper, an assisted layup, an assisted four-footer and the foul, an assisted jumper, and a layup.  In fact the Blazers wouldn't convert for the entire rest of the quarter unless it was off a pass or was right at the cup (and they converted a bunch).  Whappity-whappity-whap, Portland leads 33-24 at the end of the period.

The offense stalled a wee bit at the start of the second but picked up speed again as the quarter progressed.  Again the Blazers feasted on chip shots and passes off of penetration.  It was like a shooting gallery.  Meanwhile the ‘Wolves were either hoisting jumpers or turning it over.  They would make only one field goal in the period from closer than 17 feet.  Portland's scheme was direct and efficient.  Anybody who penetrated, which was basically just the point guard off of the dribble, was met by at least two guys.  Closed off from the interior Minnesota simply bailed and then shot.  The Blazers also limited their offensive rebounds.  Without quality shots or second attempts the Timberwolves just couldn't keep up.  62-45 Blazers at the half.

The third period is often the place where trailing teams make a run as the lead team gets complacent.  But with Minnesota representing defense like Arby's represents roast beef that wasn't going to happen tonight.  Unfortunately for the ‘Wolves the Blazers have experienced a fair amount of offensive frustration this year.  Everybody who came in the game wanted to score, period.  It was like guys crawling through the desert finally finding their oasis.  Greg Oden and Andre Miller destroyed the ‘Wolves early in the period and everybody else canned shots in their wake.  Neither Flynn nor Al Jefferson scored a single point in the period.  Everybody else in blue combined couldn't hope to make up the difference.  92-67 after three.

The fourth period was mostly second-third-fourth unit fun time.  Nate unleashed the hounds and they feasted.  Even in garbage time the Blazers only gave up 2 points of their margin, finishing the game ahead by 23.

So why did this work?  The Blazers recognized the opponent's weaknesses and exploited them.  Only one guy on the Timberwolves side could penetrate with any reliability, that being Flynn.  Shut down his dribble and they have a choice between moving the ball for nothing or hoisting a highly-contested shot off of the drive.   The Blazer three-guard lineup didn't hurt them a bit against Minnesota's forwards because none of those forwards could create for themselves off of the dribble and none of the ones the guards matched up with could post well.  Knowing exactly where the ball was going and exactly what would happen with it in each case the Blazers could exploit their quickness advantage mercilessly.  Those forwards aren't any quicker on the defensive end than the offensive end either.  Run the floor and you probably beat them to the rim or at least your spot.  Swing the ball twice and they can't catch up.  Not being great individual defenders they had to commit to doubling key Blazers.  Recovering was all but impossible.  It was a dream for both cutters and catch-and-shoot guys.  Portland shot 50%, edging the ‘Wolves by over 5 percentage points.  They killed them in fast break points, stayed mostly even in offensive rebounds and second-chance points, and hit 15 more foul shots.  Portland generated 12 steals and turned the ball over only 13 times themselves...that would cover all permutations of turnovers.  The most glaring advantage of all--not always indicative but in this case completely so--was Portland's 35 assists on 41 made buckets.  That's a smidge over 85% of Blazer made field goals following assists tonight.  They won't get that ratio every night because the defense won't let them move like that but even knowing the potential is there is a good thing for this team right now.  Production and stellar individual efforts don't necessarily go hand-in-hand.  It's easier to have a great night with a bunch of teammates than it is to do it alone.

Individual Observations

Brandon Roy shot 1-6 tonight for 2 points total, to which I say...standing ovation.  For one thing he also added 7 assists and 6 rebounds so it's not like he was shying away from the ball or his other responsibilities.  This wasn't a J.R. Rider pouty special.  For another, the ‘Wolves planned to shut him down with Ryan Gomes and whatever help they could throw. They only managed to light everyone else up by doing so.  This team needed to be lit.  Brandon did his job by not trying to take over and make it all about him.  5 other Blazers scored in double figures.  Every other Blazer who played got at least 4 shots.  Show me the downside.  In my mind this was a perfectly acceptable outing, hitting them where they ain't.  Had the Blazers lost by 6 with everyone else bricking all over the place that story would change but we knew by the mid-point of the first quarter that was not going to be the case.

Beneficiary #1 of Roy's egoless night was Andre Miller.  He got to push the ball, zing passes, and he put up a game high 14 shots.  The latter part of that wasn't the most intrinsic aspect of his game though.  In fact I was surprised to see he had taken that many.  When you're shooting wide-open jumpers that have to be taken and layups that get the crowd on its feet there's no such thing as too many shots.  He hit 9 of those shots for 21 points.  Also notice something with Miller when he's going well.  Even though he handles the ball and initiates the offense the ball doesn't stay in his hands for a long time.  He's setting without slowing.  Some of that was the defense tonight, to be sure.  Some of it was his teammates understanding that motion against this team was the key to offensive success and easy looks.  But Andre at his purest has that point guard knack of not over-dribbling whereas the other ball-handlers on this team tend to dribble too much when they try to set something up.

Beneficiary #2 of the egalitarian offensive approach was LaMarcus Aldridge.  At first his 5-11 shooting clip looks pedestrian.  But when you throw in his 9-9 free throw rate you understand that he was able to move, receive passes, and convert through an attack that went well beyond his catch/hold/turn-around post game.  It was exciting watching him work in motion instead of from a set position.  It was exciting (as always) watching him run the floor.  His fluidity also provided him 5 offensive rebounds.  He finished with 10 total boards, 3 assists, and 19 points.

Greg Oden made some nice moves on the smaller Minnesota defenders, held onto the ball (0 turnovers!), and finished with authority on most of his attempts.  I think he's starting to figure out that if he makes his moves under control and with correct body and foot position nobody is going to block his shot.  He was 4-8 with 11 points, was the recipient of a couple nice passes, and made a couple wonderful passes from the post as well.  He's really got a nice eye for the court and you can see where he'll eventually become devastating when people try to double team him.

Steve Blake was set up nicely for this game and he took advantage of it.  He served as an outlet for some of those passes off of pressure on his teammates.  He served as a conduit to open shooters.  When he had to defend the point guard he had plenty of help.  Nobody else could drive past him as he was quicker.  (These both applied to Miller as well.)  As long as he stayed active there wasn't much that could go wrong, and it didn't.  He had 4 rebounds, 5 assists, and 6 points blending perfectly with his teammates.  I liked this Steve Blake game as well as any I've seen this season.

Travis Outlaw played the Aldridge role to perfection tonight, initiating his offense farther out but basically buying into the moving, jabbing, and hitting Minnesota's weak points rather than pounding the ball.  He was 5-9 from the field and 6-6 from the line for 19 points in 19 minutes.  He didn't rebound fantastically but he didn't need to.

Part of the reason Travis didn't need to rebound that much was Joel Przybilla swallowing up 13 of them on his own.  Przy often has good games against the ‘Wolves.  The open offense really helped him look better near the rim as well.  He could catch the ball without so much traffic around him, gather a little, and convert.

Jerryd Bayless got some more run and looked more comfortable than he did last game.  The pace, motion, and spread floor played to his strengths.  He had open jumpers he could take his time hitting.  He saw defenseless lanes and drove deep, drawing fouls.  With more time and space to make decisions he found teammates and gathered 4 assists without a single turnover to go along with his 12 points.  The defensive end wasn't as big of a success for him tonight, as he drew 5 fouls.  It was a nice game though.  A comfortable, motivated Bayless isn't a bad thing for this club.

Rudy Fernandez had an interesting night overall.  In some ways he was quite active.  He got 4 steals and 6 assists and seemed eager to run with the greyhounds.   He finished 2 of 6 for 5 points, not looking particularly comfortable with his shot but also realizing that this was a good night to shoot it anyway as most of the attempts were open.

Dante Cunningham got 6 minutes tonight.  He is well-built compared to a lot of NBA forwards, you have to give him that.  He also converted 3 of 4 shots...jumpers even.  6 points in 6 minutes.  Let the call for him to get 48 commence.

Final Thoughts and Links

Yes, this was a win against a struggling opponent with a raft of mismatches.  But we've come up against mismatches before and failed to exploit them.  We've wanted to run before and failed to do so.  We've needed to move the ball before and not had the trust and commitment necessary to make that happen.  The team needed the kind of shot in the arm this game provided.  It's not much good in and of itself.  Most games aren't going to be this easy...even against Minnesota again on Wednesday probably.  But with the pattern set and some beatable teams on the horizon on this road trip, maybe the Blazers can capture the momentum and start making a few more games easier.  Lord knows it's a pain watching them struggle for wins.

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by MojoMan on Nov 8, 2009 11:57 PM PST reply actions  

His best offensive move of the year IMO.

Against a big Jefferson, Greg showed his speed and athleticism. It was by far his smoothest most controlled play all year. I was hoping he’d hit that foul line jumper. If he hits those occasionally, wow! He played good D on Jefferson as well, not going for all those pump fakes.

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by clinchmobb on Nov 9, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked Greg's drop-step and lefty lay-in against Duncan, better

but it’s nice to have two best moves to “argue” about re: Greg in consecutive games, eh?

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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

against 2 decent big men nonetheless!

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by clinchmobb on Nov 9, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Jefferson isn't exactly a candidate for All-Defensive team

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by jscot on Nov 9, 2009 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I was most impressed with the way Oden defended Jefferson.

Watch that game again and you’ll see it’s clear: Jefferson “didn’t want none” of Oden. Al refused to even attemp to post on Greg, often rushing hurried one-handers over his shoulder that barely caught iron. Most impressive part of GO’s game tonight if you ask me.

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by bforsythe on Nov 9, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

A lot of people think Jefferson should be an all-star.

Greg plain and simply shut him down. Very encouraging for us going forward.

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by bforsythe on Nov 9, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Big Al is clearly not healthy though.

He’s coming off a bad injury. He wasn’t as inside as normal.

That said, he’s a weak defender and they’re trying to run the offense through him, and he’s just a finisher… not a passer. That will make him look weak.

Morty

by Mortimer on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

His worst perhaps

Was taking that top of the key jumper, I would have laughed like crazy had that gone in.

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by skywaker9 on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd have to say that

Anything outside 8 feet is out of Oden’s range lol

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 12:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

It was from 16 feet--halfway between the foul line and the top of the key--and it missed off the back iron

GO was wide open, and, remember, he hits over 70% of his free throws (taken from one foot further in). A minute later, LMA missed a fadeaway from 17 or 18 and no one thought a thing about it.

What in the world was wrong with GO taking that shot? I wouldn’t want GO to fall in love with 16-18 foot jumpers ala Patrick Ewing. But if the defense backs off him and he’s wide open and in rhythm, I think he absolutely should take that shot. Then, after he hits a couple, the defense will have no clue how to play him.

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by hurryup09 on Nov 9, 2009 12:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Free throws and mid-range jumpers

…are two completely different disciplines…

However, if Greg can get a servicable mid-range shot in his arsenal he’ll really be a threat!

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 1:22 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

he was wide open and we know he can hit from there. I have no problem with him shooting that on occasion.

by jksnake99 on Nov 9, 2009 1:24 AM PST up reply actions  

me either

He just needs to be able to make the shot… It will come with time and practice

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 1:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

agree

time and place. he was wide open, and it was a game in which we were up by 20. take the shot. now, if there is 1 minute left in a tie game, different story probably.

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by douglast on Nov 9, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Hakeem's "dream shake" was prettier

but I’d rather Greg’s offensive game resemble Artis Gilmore

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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

i don't know

maybe from the floor hakeem’s shot looked better, but the height ewing had, he rainbowed that ball in, pitched it up to the rafters and swish…mmmm,mmmm..mmmmmmmmm purty.

I would much rather see oden moving to the rim or across the paint, no doubt…but those shots sure looked good, can not deny it

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by PDXBuckeye on Nov 9, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a good, makeable shot

Like others say, the last thing we want is him relying on it, but he can easily make it and ya gotta keep the defense honest.

M—

by Mortimer on Nov 9, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

don't be like Patrick Ewing, Greg!

I want Oden to be scoring while he’s moving towards the hoop, not “settling” for jump shots. Why? Because he can put the opposing frontline into foul trouble and get the Blazers into the “penalty” quicker, that way. Everytime he shoots that facing jumper, he’s doing the defense a favor…he’s bigger than just about everyone else, so…use your size and throw it down, big man!

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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I saw both he and aldridge

recognize their advantage last night and capitalize. Probably the most encouraging development on this young season. Don’t play down to them, stomp them…

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by PDXBuckeye on Nov 9, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Options wrong

Two sets of answers for the jersey contest are from last year… as much as I want to pick Sergio to have the most turnovers, I don’t think that’s a possability. Haha

No... No... No... oh, nice Travis

by DribbleDriveDish on Nov 9, 2009 12:01 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Nate's a genius

I don’t care who starts if we move the ball and move off the ball. 35 assists on 41 buckets? I don’t care if Nate starts 5 PGs.

But seriously, part of the reason we can get away with this is because we’ve got a monster at center for 48 mpg. And anyone notice LMA’s rebounds on short minutes in this game?

Going small at 1-2-3 may end up boosting his rebound numbers, as there is less intra-team competition for defensive rebounds. But Greg and Joel are still going to grab most of them. Joel heard the word “Minnesota” and decided he was going to own the boards, I guess. He scored, too.

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by jscot on Nov 9, 2009 12:04 AM PST reply actions  

This is the kind of game I like out LMA.

Catching in motion to the basket and not just turnaround J’s.

I thought our guards rebounded exceptionally well as a unit. I think they had 17 between Roy, Dre, Blake, and Rudy. Bayless had only 1…

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by clinchmobb on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Andre rebounds like a Small Forward, I love that guy.

by Phantaskippy on Nov 9, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions  

21

Roy had 7, 5 for Blake, 5 for Rudy, and 4 for Andre

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

espn boxscore linked above gives them 19 now

6 for Roy, 4 for Dre and Blake and 5 for Rudy. Bayless with 1 and Martell with 1

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by clinchmobb on Nov 9, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

11 assists the first time though

Rudy needs more meaningful minutes. If you are starting a 3 guard lineup, he should be in it. And no, I won’t back down. Silly things like stats, individual performance, and team performance wont effect that. I have my biases and I am sticking to them…

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by Rudiculous on Nov 9, 2009 2:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Keep it up

The Rudy should start chant must continue to grow until it is answered.

In addition I don’t mind the idea of a Blake-Bayless-Webster-Outlaw-Przy second unit. Blake and Bayless share ball handling (Bayless plays role of Roy lite), Webster and Outlaw score and Przy rebounds and protects the paint. Works for me.

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by MadBlaze on Nov 9, 2009 2:55 AM PST up reply actions  

agree completely

this should be the rotation IMHO

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by douglast on Nov 9, 2009 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Blake has played horrible with the 2nd unit thus far

granted it is a small sample size, but it seemed like Blake was trying his best Sergio impression when he was with the 2nd unit this year. It wasn’t pretty. It was obvious that he was doing things he wasn’t comfortable with just to fit in.

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by Philthyanimal on Nov 9, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Nate said back in July

he wanted to try the Bayless-Fernandez backcourt during preseason. Rudy’s back made that impossible, but he’s getting a look at it, right now. More ball-handling resposibility in the halfcourt sets for Rudy might help him feel like he’s getting a more-prominent role, even though his overall minutes are shorter…which may actually be a good thing to keep him healthy. If Rudy starts, he’ll be a spot up 3 point shotter, and he doesn’t want to be pigeon-holed in that role

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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

i think rudy would be ok with that as well

if they made good use of his minutes rather than have him camp out in the corner

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by Philthyanimal on Nov 9, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Blake says

Her Flynn, I’ll take that if you don’t mind:

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by skywaker9 on Nov 9, 2009 12:38 AM PST reply actions  

Blake looks demonic is this pic

I WILL EAT YOUR SOUL>>>>>

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by Eat Politicians on Nov 9, 2009 2:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Lt. Dan

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by jamon51 on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

"When ya got the enemy down, kick 'em," says Blake, quoting his great-uncle GC Patton.

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by MojoMan on Nov 9, 2009 2:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Another one, Bayless says

I am Spark Plug, watch my pass:

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by skywaker9 on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 AM PST reply actions  

You'd be surprised how grippy they are on polished hardwood...

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by timbo on Nov 9, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

"Kick the enemy when?" Rex asks Blake.

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by MojoMan on Nov 9, 2009 2:22 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the way we will be playing everyone come March

Obviously not with the 3 guard lineup but this kind of dominance.

9 straight over the ’Wolves! I love lording that over my cousin from Minnesota!

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 12:41 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

It'll be 11 straight in less than 2 weeks

Bank.

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by skywaker9 on Nov 9, 2009 12:45 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean like Orlando beat OKC ?

errrrr

Gotta include the poor and the great in your sample size or your sample’s no good.

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by leeroyjenkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

OKC boat-raced Portland last year, too

If “the Durants” get hot, they can beat anyone on a given night

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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Phoenix is more his style

He was not a good fit for our team offensively, as much as I liked him as a person.

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by skywaker9 on Nov 9, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Channing would have fit in well with the way Portland played last night.

With Channing I think it was simply that he could never get enough minutes to get comfortable. People are not produced from a mold. Everyone requires a little different set of circumstances to hit their stride. Channing has repeatedly shown that given sufficient minutes and a regular role, he will produce. Those were difficult to come by in Portland. I think everybody, Channing, Nate, KP his teammates and even the fans recognized that.

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by timg56 on Nov 9, 2009 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

Channing has had many off nights due to short stints, but in the end regardless of if he was hot or cold, I never cringed as much when he shot the ball as I still continue to do when Trout takes a contested shot.

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by Philthyanimal on Nov 9, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Frye made a great career choice

the Suns are going to help him become a very wealthy young man, if he stays healthy

but Channing was not a backup PF to contribute on a finals team in Portland. Wish him well and don’t look back

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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Hah!

Even a 1 year veteran probably makes more in a single NBA season at the league minimum than the average person will in more than 10 years. :)

by TheMadKiwi on Nov 9, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

He's a good example for those who argue about minutes.

Frye needed to start. He might have been ok if he got significant minutes at backup PF, but he wasn’t even getting that and wasn’t going to with Travis here.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 9, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Good for him

I hope he has a monster year

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by leeroyjenkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

How do you guys think Roy will adjust if we continue playing up tempo?

I hope he changes his mentality of letting the game come to him, he needs to get him self involved in the game. And I don’t mean by being a ball hog and throwing up shots all game long, I mean playing off the ball and being creative to get open for a good look. A lot of potential for him to grow there. Roy will adjust I’m sure. A great win and an awesome game to watch.

Miller to Oden FTW!

by J-Xile on Nov 9, 2009 12:43 AM PST reply actions  

i dont think its an issue

we played fantastically as a team last year to close out the season prior to the playoffs. it was the best basketball we’ve played all last year IMO. every game was a blowout and we had quite a few wins over top notch teams if i remember correctly. the only thing th at sucked was that we abandoned that plan in the playoffs.

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by Philthyanimal on Nov 9, 2009 1:48 AM PST up reply actions  

the only thing that sucked was that we abandoned that plan in the playoffs.

Playoff defense >>> regular season defense. You’re playing a rested team who is game-planning only for you, and not playing you on a back-to-back night, etc. The Blazers didn’t have enough reliable scoring options to beat Houston. Miller should help, by scoring himself and getting Oden (etc) more involved

but don’t expect a running style to be successful in the post season. You need to lineup that can bump and grind every possession (like San Antonio, the last 10+ years)

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by two4larue on Nov 9, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

i dont think we need to run at a phoenix pace

but we certainly dont need to be the most sluggish team in the nba.

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by Philthyanimal on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

A running style should succeed fine in the playoffs

When points are hard to come by, getting out on the break whenever possible to get an easy basket is very valuable.

The key is to not sacrifice defense for the sake of running.

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by jscot on Nov 9, 2009 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he'll figure it out

and increase his assst and rebound totals (and defense) by a certain amount

and the team will be better for it

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by leeroyjenkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

7 assists for Roy

I think that says he is pretty involved. It appeared to me we was consciously making an effort in getting everyone involved. He had a few opportunites that he would normally take the shot or attack the rim and he kicked around the perimeter or fed the post. He was trying to let the game come to him he just wasn’t hitting his shots (1 for 6).

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by clinchmobb on Nov 9, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

His shot wasn’t going, and rather than force it he just said, “Fine, everyone else is hot, my shot isn’t going, I’ll find the open man.”

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by jscot on Nov 10, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Same here.

Only a matter of time before he realizes Rudy or Martell can do everything Blake is doing but better.

Miller to Oden FTW!

by J-Xile on Nov 9, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions  

The whole team seems re-energized the last two games.

Finally, finally, finally Travis Outlaw is actually driving and drawing fouls. FTs 10/10. Mostly going to his left.

And it’s so great to see Bayless contribute, and Greg look like he’s figuring things out. This stuff is exciting, however goofy this starting lineup is. It’s transitional. The main thing has been getting Andre Miller in there.

ignacio

by ignacio on Nov 9, 2009 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Now watch him bench Miller when we hit Charlotte or Atlanta

I do not trust Nate to do what I expect anymore. Just can’t do it.

"What happened to Bayless anyway? Did he turn into a pumpkin? Most teams don’t just let #11 picks rot." - Xiane

by MadBlaze on Nov 9, 2009 1:33 AM PST up reply actions  

it will be interesting.

This Memphis game will be interesting also. Rudy Gay is a horrible matchup for all Blazers not named Martell (or Travis if focused). It will be interesting to see how quickly Nate goes to Martell if Gay gets going, and whether its Blake or Andre who sits.

by jksnake99 on Nov 9, 2009 1:35 AM PST up reply actions  

we defended Gay well last year, and it wasn’t Nic. He was on Mayo.

I expect Brandon to guard Gay as he did last year, with Andre on Mayo.

free bayless

by Cablinasian on Nov 9, 2009 1:37 AM PST up reply actions  

himself apparently

He’s not with the team and is apparently contemplating retirement rather than lower himself to the role of 6th man.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Nov 9, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, it was a joke

clearly Allen Iverson is his own best defender.

by Royster on Nov 9, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Who's gonna guard OJ Mayo?

:Shudders:

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Nov 9, 2009 1:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus while Conley might not be a huge offensive threat

but he is quick….Memphis might be an issue for the 3g lineup.

"What happened to Bayless anyway? Did he turn into a pumpkin? Most teams don’t just let #11 picks rot." - Xiane

by MadBlaze on Nov 9, 2009 2:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I dunno man Steve had a good game last night

I think are minutes for Steve.

But once Batum gets back there’s going to def. be an odd man out

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

schematically, did anyone else notice that we were running a lot of pick and rolls with two picks for the ballhandler? For example, on one play Blake had the ball on the perimeter and had Oden on his right and Aldridge on his left, leaving him to choose a direction. i don’t remember seeing that much last year.

free bayless

by Cablinasian on Nov 9, 2009 1:20 AM PST reply actions  

I don't either...

But I wonder if it’s a new technique to:

A: confuse the defense as to which way the ball is going

And

B: make it so there’s a hi-low option to dump off too after the pick

Any thoughts?

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 1:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Blazers often use it.

Tthe center rolls to the hoop and the other pick setter (LMA, Outlaw) pops out to the top of the key for an open jumper.

Point guard passes it to the PF.

Power Forward then:
A) Shoots the open shot.
B) Passes to Oden in front of the hoop. (not often)

The Magic use this play quite often with Lewis and Howard. Usually demoted by the gesture “horns”.

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by blzrfan on Nov 9, 2009 1:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya

definitely seen the double pick out top before. Its a good point guards dream, so many options….

RUDY > MJ

by Rudiculous on Nov 9, 2009 2:48 AM PST up reply actions  

He can always pass out of it instead

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by jscot on Nov 10, 2009 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Those Canis Hoopus fellows sure hate the Blazers.

Complaining about 3 pointers and that one alley hoop attempt by the Blazer backups. They’re going to be angry at 29 teams this season.

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by blzrfan on Nov 9, 2009 1:27 AM PST reply actions  

Well they are entitled to their opinions of course

But you know the saying about those…

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 1:29 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think it was just that one commenter

Mosty of them seemed really reasoned / kind of cool

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by G_dubs on Nov 9, 2009 1:38 AM PST up reply actions  

There were a few more in their "game thread" (>200 comments)

Griping about our “league-worst” announcers and how Dave isn’t funny… What’s sad is the approx. tally of the Bedge posts is around 15-20% in that thread…

But on the whole those guys were pretty cool, despite a Blazer beatdown.

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 2:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Complaining about Rice is nothing new

I know not liking other team’s announcers is pretty universal since the refs are talked about in basketball more than any other sport, so there’s more “that was a foul!” comments. I always find it funny when he rants, but I fully acknowledge that he isn’t even remotely impartial and can see how he’d get on other fan’s nerves.

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by terryisntbald on Nov 9, 2009 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

They take their cue from the chief blogger over there

he was spewing some pretty obnoxious Blazers haterade last season. What do they want the bench players to do — roll over and play dead? They want to strut their stuff; they’re auditioning for an increased role even after the game has been decided. If you don’t like players shooting threes and dunking in a game that’s already been decided, then play better defense. I’m sympathetic to that argument in a CYO game…sure as hell am not when you’re talking about professional athletes.

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by BlazersOrBust on Nov 9, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

He explained it further in his recap thread

He’s more criticizing that none of his guys seemed to be hurt that they were being beat, and only Brewer was trying to stop us from doing fun plays.

He gets that our bench guys were the only ones playing then, and they just wanna shine.

M—

by Mortimer on Nov 9, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Canis Hoopus

I thought it worth people’s time to read their perspective on us if they hadn’t already.
That link to their site started off with a little Blazer history retrospective on where we came from just a few short years ago then went on to offer BE some props:

“It has been brought to my attention that the good folks at the excellent Blazers Edge are out hunting for our goat with a post having something to do with jello, potholes, Jesse Ventura, and Sid Hartman bestiality. Now we know how BE gets those good hit numbers: They are a specialty porn search magnet. Somewhere, some unsuspecting creep who is just looking for a good time with some jello and a pack animal has stumbled across SB Nation. Well done guys, well done. The next time someone asks us why BE is so successful, we now know what to say: llama porn.
(I kid. BE is a fantastic site and we hope that Hoopus can follow in its footsteps.)”

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by DMKPDX on Nov 9, 2009 7:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That game was very relaxing

Enjoyable even…. definitely no stress.

I thoroughly enjoyed "this"http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/11/trail_blazers_116_minnesota_93.html photo montage as well. Some good stuff in there – always get the best expressions on those in game photos.

All in all, a thoroughly good day to be a Blazer fan.

Oh, and now that Bayless has been freed, leave it that way!

"What happened to Bayless anyway? Did he turn into a pumpkin? Most teams don’t just let #11 picks rot." - Xiane

by MadBlaze on Nov 9, 2009 1:31 AM PST reply actions  

Crud

I mean’t this

Shoulda previewed. I such at such things though. Still can’t figure out how to make them open in a new window.

Ah well

"What happened to Bayless anyway? Did he turn into a pumpkin? Most teams don’t just let #11 picks rot." - Xiane

by MadBlaze on Nov 9, 2009 1:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Attempting

Try this

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 9, 2009 1:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Solution

1. Type “Try this”.

2. Highlight the word “this”.

3. Click on the link icon. This is between your subject line and your comment text, and is the next to last icon, after the quote and before the picture.

4. Paste in the link.

5. Check the “Open in New Window” check box.

Try it!

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 9, 2009 2:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Like

this

"What happened to Bayless anyway? Did he turn into a pumpkin? Most teams don’t just let #11 picks rot." - Xiane

by MadBlaze on Nov 9, 2009 2:59 AM PST up reply actions  

You will now never mess up a link again

If you do, you’ll be banished to Australia.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 10, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Now that Andre has cut his hair

I think he looks a lot like Channing Frye from certain angles.

by TPforprez on Nov 9, 2009 1:42 AM PST reply actions  

rudys assists

to me it seemed like rudy found the open man quite often earlier…either the man didnt make the gimme bucket or was fouled.

greg showed some solid court vision too, i believe he found miller under the basket who blew the layup but caught his own reb and then scored, but left greg without the assist,

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by Philthyanimal on Nov 9, 2009 1:43 AM PST reply actions  

KGW showed that Oden pass tonight after the football game

I listened to the call on that one but didn’t get to watch any of the game… Was nice to see the great look from Greg to Andre. Also, not the first Oden assist or pseudo-assist to Miller we’ve seen either (opener vs. Houston)

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 1:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Rudy could have had 10 assists, easily....

But that’s how being a passer goes. Guys get fouled, guys miss shots….

Loved what I saw from Rudy though, mostly because he adjusted his game to compensate for the fact that he is struggling to find his shot. When he finds it, Rudy will be THE MAN!!!!!!!

RUDY > MJ

by Rudiculous on Nov 9, 2009 2:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably not much to take from this game considering the competition

But it does give me an idea for Ben’s next charting mission. Chart Nate McMillan. How many possessions does he call plays, how many possessions does he let Dre run the show, what are the results? Go!

by zersrule on Nov 9, 2009 7:06 AM PST reply actions  

Greg, Greg,m Greg, Greg.

That is all.

#88 > #23 > #25

Updated for latest line-up:

#5 > #2

by The Pirate on Nov 9, 2009 8:10 AM PST reply actions  

how's martells foot..

it looked like he …. well…

how’s martell?

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by faith on Nov 9, 2009 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

Now they're ballin

Roy won’t have many 2 pt games, but he’s going to have a ton of 17, 7 reb, 6 assist kind of nights. For now let’s get our big guys used to finishing around the hoop and our forwards running full speed down the court.

Bravo!

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Nov 9, 2009 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

I loved, loved, LOVED the fast breaking

Even though we had a couple of turnovers from pushing the tempo, that’s gonna be a given any time you try to get up and down the court lickety-split. I thought the Blazers did a wonderful job of recognizing when there wasn’t an easy opportunity after pushing it up and pulling it back to set up a half-court set.

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by BlazersOrBust on Nov 9, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

its crazy

how many of us have been crying to go at a faster pace…it seemed like we got our wish at the end of last year, but for some reason we went away from it. I hope its here to stay.

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by Philthyanimal on Nov 9, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

One thing for sure....

   CanisHoopus has a much cooler site logo. I liked our Lewis and Clark (honest cheesiness) better than this coathangers and bra protector in space with a basketball flying over Portland.

    Blazersedge is respected as one of the best sites around. Too bad our logo sucks.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Nov 9, 2009 11:29 AM PST reply actions  

It's not that bad...

It’s not the best, but it’s far from the worst

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 9, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

the old logo looked like someone blued a basketball on to a postage stamp

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 9, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

that word should be "glued"

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 9, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

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