Game 6 Preview: Spurs vs. Blazers
Game Time: 7:30 p.m. Pacific TV: Local--KGW, National--ESPN
So...the Blazers sit at 2-3 and are in the midst of soul-searching and lineup-fiddling when--joy and wonder!--the Spurs roll into town. I can pretty much guarantee that the ESPN storyline on this one will be the Old Lion versus the Young Lion. Except that right now the Young Lion has da sniffles. Hopefully a little hanky-blowing and some warm tea will be all the Blazers need to regain some of their roar.
A Look at the Spurs
As it turns out, the Old Lion could use a little checkup as well. The Spurs have won 2 games this year, both times scoring 113 on their hapless opponents. On the other hand they have also lost 2, showing a definite lack of hap on the road against Chicago and Utah, topping the century mark neither time en route to double-digit losses. They've either crushed (at home) or been crushed (on the road). Obviously the Blazers hope that story continues tonight.
Normally you'd like the aging Spurs on the second night of a back-to-back against tough opponents, but the Old Lion King, Greg Popovich, is sticking to an interesting strategy to start the season. Every Spur in the legitimate rotation plays between 20 and 29 minutes per game from Tony Parker at the high end to George Hill down low. Last night 10 Spurs were in the 17-30 minute range. Channeling Hubie Brown lets Pops keep his troops fresh and probably mitigates the fatigue factor tonight.
In general the Spurs have done an excellent job shooting the ball, particularly from beyond the arc. They've averaged 6 more three-point attempts than their opponents, making 2.3 more, and shooting better. They're a full 5 percentage points above their opponents in overall field goal percentage. As usual they keep the turnovers down and the defensive rebounds up. You have to beat them the old-fashioned way. They're not going to give it away.
Keeping with another Spurs tradition they trail handily in offensive rebounds. They've also given away 5 more free throws per game to the opponent though it hasn't crippled them because opponents have shot horribly from the stripe.
Long story short San Antonio doesn't take shots they can't make, they don't have to clean up after themselves much, and they're not looking for you or the refs to bail them out or lift them up. They come to do a job. If they're not as accomplished at getting that job done every night as they once were at least they're not going to bungle it foolishly. This isn't a team looking to find itself. This is a team that found itself long ago and is banking you haven't. When they run up against teams just as assured who execute well they get into trouble. Sometimes they'll also get burned by youthful enthusiasm and energy. But on the balance they're going to win more than they lose because they're just better at what they do than the opponent is and you'll not easily force the out of what they want to do.
Tim Duncan is off to a fine start this year, averaging a strong double-double, amounting to 15 points and 13 rebounds before last night's game. If the point total seems low, remember what we said about limited minutes. He was playing 26 per game at that point. He was also shooting over 62% so the Spurs are finding him where they need to. Tony Parker was shooting over 55% before the Jazz game and averaging over 16 with 5 assists. Manu Ginobili is lofting and missing a lot of threes but also drawing a relatively large number of fouls. Richard Jefferson is duplicating that scheme almost exactly. In relatively small minutes Michael Finley has begun to make an impact again, shooting 60% from the floor and 50% from the arc off of open shots that his teammates create by drawing attention. Not every big name is clicking for them but they're doing enough...at least on the offensive end.
Of the lesser-known names reserve point guard George Hill is feast or famine, scoring when he's not guarded well and having difficulties when he is. Center Matt Bonner is snack or famine, hitting his twos but missing his threes. Energy scorer Roger Mason Jr. is having a hard time finding enough minutes to get comfortable. Both he and Bonner have been Blazer killers in the past though. The new kid on the block, backing up Duncan, is DeJuan Blair. He's shooting an incredible 70% from the field. It's just a matter of how many looks he's getting on a given night. More importantly he's giving the Spurs heaps of rebounds in limited minutes.
As we just alluded to, the question with the Spurs right now is whether their secondary and tertiary players can defend well enough game-to-game. Duncan is good enough even though he's slower than he used to be. Parker is quick enough to be bothersome...sometimes. Ginobili can get scrappy...sometimes. Jefferson's impact seems to ride on how much attention he is paying which also varies from night to night. After that it gets pretty shaky. You're not really scared of even these guys, let alone your Finleys and Bonners. Gone are the days when Duncan could singlehandedly bail out his team on that end. They either bring it as a team or they don't. When they don't, they don't win.
Pivotal Points
Let's assume the Blazers play more or less as they have...that there will be no great Renaissance tonight or burst of all-encompassing energy that allows them to bowl over the Spurs. If that's true and if this becomes an ugly fight there's really only one key. They have to deal with Tony Parker somehow. Given what Portland has shown so far, I don't know how they do it but they'd better find a way. Hold Parker to his average and even with San Antonio's other scorers the Blazers have a chance...more than a chance really as many of their easy buckets key off of him. But if Parker is fast breaking, free-wheeling down the lane, and hitting jumpers that the Blazers are late in getting to Portland is in serious trouble. Swarming him to shut him down leaves the Blazers ultra-vulnerable. He's too quick, smart, and passes too well. San Antonio can score from a lot of places and it's unlikely the Blazers could recover off of him in time to stop the Spurs from getting their shot. That's when they score in the 110 range. Slow Parker down, make him work, don't let him lead the break, make him shoot tons of shots for his points and you have a good chance.
Other than that the Blazers have to keep rebounding. Portland could feast on second-chance points tonight. They also have to make their second unit tell. The Spurs' bench is pretty good and Portland needs to at least match. Not every Blazer starter will get past San Antonio's defense but whoever manages to do so--be that Roy, Aldridge or even one of the secondary options--the Blazers should keep riding the hot hand. Take your scores anywhere you can get them regardless of the hand they come from. Also do not count the Spurs out even if you get ahead. They've been here before. If you get up, stomp on them.
Final Thoughts
Tonight you'll see two teams in similar situations for different reasons and on different ends of their life cycles. Whichever team puts it together first in this game will have a huge advantage. If both remain shaky, flip a coin. It's probably a more important game for the confidence of the Blazers than the Spurs. Let's hope that adds a little energy to the proceedings.
Check out the San Antonio point of view at PoundingtheRock.com.
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--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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we should be developing bayless right now
if we think/hope he is gonna be our defensive pg. Cause sure blake may do a better job in the regular season, but when we get matched up against billups brooks parker in the playoff we will get eaten alive.
by tevisthe4th on Nov 6, 2009 12:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bayless and D?
He’s got a long long way to go. I like him, but I don’t seem him ever playing a mjor role on this team.
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by Derek @Portland Men on Sports on Nov 6, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he just has the athleticism to keep up with those pgs blake doesnt and hasnt
been able to punish them on the other end.
by tevisthe4th on Nov 6, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Blair is going to abuse Trout down low...
Hopefully, he can abuse back on the perimeter…
by xedubx on Nov 6, 2009 12:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling we'll see Howard tonight vs. Blair
I don’t see Trout being able to stop Blair at all, unless he goes for the knees… Which we all know won’t happen.
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Nov 6, 2009 2:05 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He seems to be winning round 1 vs. every other GM in the league ;-)
9.8 points on 69% TS%, 8.5 rebounds on 24.5% TRB%. In 21 minutes per game. That is what Greg does so far this season right there. Not rookie of the year level, but very very good.
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 6, 2009 6:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Da Sniffles?
So The Blazers are the Young Lion with The Sniffles?
I thought we had the H(win)N1 virus. That’s Hurry Up, Win Now and Be #1.
The way the Blazers are playing makes analysis difficult. This game could bring back the Blazer “Buzz” or just be another 48 minute Buzz Kill. As a fan all I can say is Be Ready and GO BLAZERS!
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
by Krang on Nov 6, 2009 7:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Signing in from San Antonio....
Hello Blazer fans……just wanted to say good luck tonite. I hope we (spurs) do better than we have been. Its pretty embarrassing for me as a spurs fan to watch my beloved team make STUPID mistakes (cough….cough……WE LOST TO THE JAZZ AND BULLS REALLY BAD…….cough….cough…)……..it should be a good game tonite. GO FRIGIDAIRE BLAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 7:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah well its pretty embarrassing to see the Blazers bearly loose to the Nuggets (wait, they were in WCF last year)
or the Hawks and Rockets (oh wait, they were in the playoffs too).
Well, perhaps that its not so embarrassing.
Are your guys freaking out as much over at pounding the rock about your slow start as much we are here?
bayless leaves over my dead body
START MILLER
B-Roy is selfish (that's not a joke anymore)
by thomasikehara on Nov 6, 2009 7:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
freaking out …….more like disappointment LOL. We know our team could be doing better then it has been. I mean it’s one thing to lose and fight you ass off while losing and say you gave it your best but it’s completely something else to be blown out from the start and look like you never bothered showing up. This is where it is frustrating to me.
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly which of the three losses ...
… was Portland “blown out from the start”?
Try taking an objective approach – one based on real events and data, rather than a subjective one, and perhaps your frustration will go away.
Portland was in it for all three losses. The closest they came to anything remotely resembling a blowout was the loss to Atlanta. And that occured in the second half when the Hawks out worked the Blazers. If I recall correctly, Portland actually was blowing out the Hawks in the first quarter and still had a lead at the half.
As Lee has pointed out a couple of times, our three losses are to teams that have started the season a combined 12-3, including a Denver team that is firing on all cylinders. POrtland meanwhile has started off with our engine slightly out of tune. Lets not panic and decide we need a new car and driver just yet.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 6, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
he’s a Spurs fan talking about the Spurs!
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I got that about three seconds after posting.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 6, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, sorry Cello.
I forgot the part about you being a Spurs fan.
Never mind.
Although I will say that as a Spurs fan you also need not be frustrated. They’ve started slow before. Pop understands better than anybody that the season is a marathon, not a sprint.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 6, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
at first i was like “ummm?” then I was like " :)" …..no probs man i was just politely invading your guys’ site. I’m happy to get your blood boiling so early in the morning haha! with that said…again i wish you guys the best tonite but I will be rooting for my SPURS WOOT!
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks....
but don’t feel too bad…. the Jazz are difficult to beat at home (as the Blazers know) and the Bulls won last night in Cleveland. Don’t the spurs always get off to a slow start and then somehow manage to make it into the top 3??
by jenstcy on Nov 6, 2009 8:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah they do…..it’s the 2nd half of the season were the spurs shine usually. Still no excuse for the BS they have been displaying lately. I love my Team but man do I cuss and throw things at the TV like a mad man when they do shitty lol
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to tell you....
but you might be cussing and throwing things at your tv again tonight. I just don’t see the Blazers dropping three in a row at home. Brandon Roy will get 60 points before he allows that to happen. But you never know…. they are sucking right now….. I have yet to see a well played game this year from the Blazers.
by jenstcy on Nov 6, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Careful with the swearing. =)
You very well could find yourself booted from BE.
"I don't always read blogs regarding the Trail Blazers
...but when I do... I read Blazers Edge."
- resurrect_ha28
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Nov 6, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously? i said one word. Aren’t we all adults here? It’s not like i directed towards anyone in an ill manner……
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not all of us are adults....some of act like children!
All kidding aside, here are the site rules
We’re just try to keep it on the up and up. Don’t take it personal. And as a guest, I think your allowed a slip or two (IMO).
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 9:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks! i won’t drop any (more) bombs in here :)
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, It wasn't personal. I could care less if you swear.
Just giving you a little bit of notice and reasoning if you find yourself booted.
"I don't always read blogs regarding the Trail Blazers
...but when I do... I read Blazers Edge."
- resurrect_ha28
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Nov 6, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
in an interview with Ginobli last night
he said they can’t afford the slow start this year. Too many road games later in the season and that they have to take advantage of home court early. He recognized that is how they have done it in the past but this year was different…I just thought that was interesting. That’s all…
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ginobli is right on the money. We really have a competely different team this year with all the new faces on board. They need to learn how to play together early or else its gonna be ugly towards the end of the season. Nice post clinch
"There are two things in life that should never go together.....those two things are cheese and herpes..." - Santa Claus
by Cello the great on Nov 6, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
I’ve always liked the Spurs, particularly Duncan. They have always been full of high-character guys. And Kevin Pritchard is a product of there system!
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone what to guess on the over - under for ...
… the number of posts on how Pritchard screwed up by not drafting Blair?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 6, 2009 7:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
None. Who needs a productive rebounder when you can stash talent overseas?
Oh yes. Someday. When his offensive skills are fully evident and his defensive abilities largely in question, Clav will have the look and feel of a Blazer wing.
"We're going to play the right way. It ain't about you. It's about us. We can be successful if we play together. And that's what it's about. In this league, playing hard, playing together. Your numbers shouldn't matter." - Coach McMillan
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 6, 2009 7:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do a work count in the open threads
My guess is 700
by tominhawaii on Nov 6, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do a work count in the open threads
My guess is 700
by tominhawaii on Nov 6, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I will be responsible for at least 5
by jksnake99 on Nov 6, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you'll go over 8
Gotta figure you’ll at least type his name for each rebound.
by tominhawaii on Nov 6, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we could matchup Dante on Blair and put the issue to test
could get pretty ugly, though
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 6, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller's breakout night as a Blazer
you heard it here first – look for Miller to walk away with a double-double tonight and a commanding performance that cements his starting role moving forward.
by anotherthought on Nov 6, 2009 8:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
apparently he does well against Tony Parker...
according to ‘pounding the rock’
by jenstcy on Nov 6, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well against Parker
That’s surprising, I was envisioning him running circles around our PG as he usually does.
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by Derek @Portland Men on Sports on Nov 6, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
Even if Miller is Parkers kryptonite we’ll be sure to keep Blake in while Parkers out there.
by Oden_Favre_28 on Nov 6, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Dave...
Why don’t you write player match-ups for each game like other blogs do??
by jenstcy on Nov 6, 2009 8:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
There is no player match-up in TEAM
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 6, 2009 8:12 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I've seldom found that to be indicative of what actually happens
For one thing, especially with the Blazers, you don’t exactly know who will end up on whom on a given defensive play, eh? Even comparing offensive production alone Roy isn’t really competing against the opposing SG in terms of the points he needs to score. We need him to score more than Parker or whoever the best opposing scorer is. Also you can’t account for substitutions and things like Batum or Webster playing 17 minutes instead of 38.
More to the point, adding up the sums of the differences in matchups doesn’t lead to an aggregate sum which shows the better team. The classic example over the years is people (not just Blazer fans) viewing their chances against the L*kers. “We have a big advantage at point guard, Kobe beats our shooting guard, small forward is even. We have a fairly big advantage at power forward, a small advantage at center, and our bench beats theirs slightly. We win three positions, tie one, and have a slightly better bench. Therefore we’ll win!” (Alternatively, “We have two big advantages and two small ones and they only one they really have is Kobe.”) The problem is that Kobe is usually a bigger advantage than all of those others put together and you have to devote so many resources to compensating for him that his teammates start having advantages beyond what their one-on-one talent would indicate.
by Dave on Nov 6, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
117-80 Blazer victory.
I'm on your bandwagon. Eating your nachos.
by Fanboi on Nov 6, 2009 8:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That’s Bold
"I don't always read blogs regarding the Trail Blazers
...but when I do... I read Blazers Edge."
- resurrect_ha28
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Nov 6, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your name is certainly appropriate
I will be plenty happy just taking a win, 1 point, or 50, doesn’t matter to me….
by Rudiculous on Nov 6, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Watched Spurs vs Jazz last night...
I was very impressed with how both offenses played, especially the Jazz. Spurs play more iso than the Jazz but both teams had lots of cutting and multiple passes per possession. Drives down the lane were often followed by one or two other guys cutting instead of the ‘4 guys standing around waiting for a kickout’ that we seem to fall into.
I think we’ll have problems with Blair, Parker, and Ginobli. I think they’ll slash a lot with TP and Ginobli to get our bigs in foul trouble (hmmm, just like every other game!) Spurs D ain’t what it used to be now that Bowen is gone. The Jazz were getting in the lane easily and finishing. The announcers mentioned it was the first time since ‘99 that they had scored 100+ and won. I thought that was unbelievable! Anyway, they gave up 64 points in the paint to the Jazz (Spurs had 46) so maybe they are vulnerable there. After all, they are averaging giving up 46 which ranks them 27th in the league. Portland gives up 38 (rank 12th) but only scores 30 (rank 29th). FEED THE BIGS! I’m talking to you Broy/Blake/Miller!
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 9:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
exactly....
Portland needs to make their living in the paint.
by jenstcy on Nov 6, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Spurs vulnerable in the paint
completely agree that containing Parker is the key. also that Portland needs to live in the paint offensive and limit second chance points for the Spurs to single-digit. i thought Doug Collins defensive analysis that you defend the paint and the 3-pt line and live with contested 2’s was spot on. i’d be curious to see a statistical analysis of how the Blazers are doing against these rubrics.
by 55wins on Nov 6, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Win or Lose
I want to see this from the Blazers:
1. Andre and Steve NOT on the floor together
2. Andre and B-Roy on the floor together
3. Perimeter defense that keeps Greg and Joel out of 1st half foul trouble
4. LMA with 8 Free Throw attempts
5. 15 or less 3pt attempts for the game
6. At most 14 turnovers
Then, I’ll feel better about the play so far this year and believe Greg’s assessment in the O today rather than wonder about B-Roy’s comments in the same article.
Greg:
“It’s been five games, man,” Oden said, his brow furrowed. “You hear the talk of everybody flipping out, people saying ’It’s not the same’ … It’s five games. We will get over this within a (bleeping) week. Yeah, we should have won some of those games, but that’s in the past. Move on. We will get it back.”
B-Roy:
“What is worrying me is I don’t know if we see the light at the end of the tunnel. That’s what’s worrying me,” Roy said. “I don’t know what it is. I sit there at night time and try to think about it. Who knows?”
"I play, Coach stays. He goes, I go." - Jimmy Chitwood
by DucRider on Nov 6, 2009 9:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I want
To see what you put down for 2, that’d be nice. But primarily I do want to see the perimeter defense step up to keep the centers out of trouble. It’s hurt us later in the game when we let them pick up 3-4 fouls before the half.
by Oden_Favre_28 on Nov 6, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially 4. LMA with 8 Free Throw attempts
LMA is tied for 62nd in the league among forwards for free throws attempted. He has shot 7 for 10 averaging a pathetic 2 per game! I was thinking about this during the ATL game. LMA hardly ever shoots free throws! Chris Bosh is number 1 and has shot 65 through 4 games (making 47). That is 16.2 per game!!!
Hit some bodies LMA!
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to replace individual game analysis with a template,
but I think this one is fairly simple to call. We have bad perimeter defenders. They have Tony Parker. If we hold Parker to under 30 and he doesn’t spend all night zipping into the key, we have a good chance.
by JMoon on Nov 6, 2009 9:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Old Team vs Young Team comparisons
Spurs > a step slower on the D then they used to be because of age
Blazers > a step slower on the D because they just are
Spurs > Uses an inside-out game to get good looks from distance
Blazers > Uses a shot-clock at 3 to get bad looks from distance
Spurs > Has a crafty inside scorer in Duncan to draw double-teams
Blazers > Has trouble getting the ball to anyone inside in a good position to score
Spurs > Has two crafty ball handlers that can take their man off the dribble
Blazers > We got Roy and every once in a while somebody else, like Rudy
Spurs > A no nonsense but very experienced coach who knows how to strategize
Blazers > A no nonsense coach who typically gets out-coached in big games
by ralphzillo on Nov 6, 2009 9:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dave,
That was a good post. Spurs fan here, But I can still appreciate a good analysis. The Spurs were terrible in their previous Back to Back. But after last night, the Bulls don’t look like the ‘lost boys’ they were suppose to be. Pop is still tinkering with the line up, and the new players are still learning. This should be a close game. Hopefully, afterwards everyone will feel both teams did their best. I see both teams making the playoffs. Good luck to the Blazers, I hope it is a well played game that the Refs don’t come into play. And the Spurs win on a last second 3
by LakehillsFan on Nov 6, 2009 9:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh refs, Oh refs...
Please let Greg Oden play!
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wah!
is KGW owned by Comcast?…..They seem to televise the one’s already on national TV…Don’t get much view on the Blazers……. so how about us rural folks?… I know, I know cut the check….right? …… I have decided on ESPN……not because I don’t like Mike Rice, but because they have better advertising…..
by WyEast on Nov 6, 2009 10:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
So, about Blake...
There is a reasonable argument for starting him. Spreads the floor, doesn’t make dumb mistakes and so forth. But let’s say the inevitable happens and Miller moves into the starting unit.
In that case, I can’t think of a reason to play Blake at all. The pluses he brings to the starting unit are not needed on the second, and his liabilities get magnified on the second unit.
If Miller starts, it seems that Bayless might start to see some minutes. he has more of what the second unit needs than Blake does, except for the no mistakes thing.
by raoulduke on Nov 6, 2009 10:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That is the point, Blake is the odd man out
Unless you bury Blake in the starting line-up, he has no role. This is the major issue of the season. Nate is stuck and the Blazers are likely to struggle until they do something with the team roster.
by ralphzillo on Nov 6, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller backed by Bayless on most nights
Completely agree. Once you hired Miller, Blake became dispensable. The Blazers have plenty of 3pt shooters that can defend and (potentially) rebound better than Blake. Bring on Rex!
by 55wins on Nov 6, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you look at stats...
Blake is a career better 3-pt shooter than anyone on the team besides Rudy and he is only slightly behind Trout and Marty this year.
09-10 Career
Blake .389 .392
Broy .346 .362
Trout .400 .361
Marty .400 .373
Rudy .286 .394
I’m not disagreeing about getting Miller in the starting job. I am just saying Blake is the most reliable shooter of the bunch (he’s the least off his career average). I would argue that Rudy and Trout are better defenders at their position (much harder stats to find out) and BRoy isn’t reliable either. He is clearly the worst rebounder of the bunch…
I don’t think he is going anywhere soon. He’s too reliable, too perfect a role player.
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I should clarify that Blake is the worst rebounder of the bunch!
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
by clinchmobb on Nov 6, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Blazers are likely to struggle until they do something with the team roster"
Like wait until the season is over and let Blake and Travis walk?
"I play, Coach stays. He goes, I go." - Jimmy Chitwood
by DucRider on Nov 6, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see your logic
unless you are trying to get Bayless some playing time?….Blake has always been a contributor on this team, even in small proportions ….he contributed when he didn’t start as well….he’s the kind of player that doesn’t pout….just plays ball and does what is asked of him.
Blake was their best player in the OKC game and Portland may have lost without him. He was in at crunch time and hit a deciding 3 that clinched the game
by WyEast on Nov 6, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One other thought
it appears that the Blazers may think Bayless will not be a good point guard (what he played in summer league) clearly, he is a 2 guard in a point body, so why make him in to something he’’s not?…………. if he’s their future point guard…why would they sign Miller and keep Mills?
Bayless is a ‘freelance" type player…a floor general is pretty much a reach for him…he has very good 2 guard skills and can also create his own shot….both attacking the hoop and outside …….He may still be considered a “work in progress” But they are deep at point guard and the minutes won’t be there unless there is injury or the season starts to go flat……
by WyEast on Nov 6, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my God...
I just realized this game is on KGW. They’re doomed….
by jenstcy on Nov 6, 2009 11:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Simulation of Game
Hey guys another Spurs fan here and was wanting to also wish good luck to the teams tonight.
I am the guy over at PTR that simulates (plays out) games and Portland won in the voting for this past week. It is over at PTR if you wanna take a gander.
Awesome site BTW!
Go Spurs Go!!!!!!!
by mikesatx on Nov 6, 2009 11:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Simulation was a good post
Stop by and check it out if you get a chance. Maybe during half time tonight, when the posts slow down. Good Luck!
by LakehillsFan on Nov 6, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny. A couple posters are putting Pop on probation for going small.
If it can happen to him, it can happen to any coach.
by Benjamanic on Nov 6, 2009 2:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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