Andre Miller has ruined my team!
by RastaMonsta on Nov 30, 2009 5:02 PM PST
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Don't get me wrong here. I like Andre. No one can deny his skill set, his veteran savvy, or his “iron man” status. He is a great player and could be a great asset to a great many teams.
Not ours.
Andre deserves to start but our starters had 54 wins last year and were developing into a beautiful, synchronous unit. We all have to admit that in spite of our dismantling in the playoffs, we were all pretty excited about what Nate had cooking last year. Millers acquisition has thrown a huge wrench into the works. Suddenly we have to go all the way back to the drawing board instead of expanding on our existing formula.
Add to that the fact that Andre just has not brought his A Game to our team at all. As much as I like the guy, there have been a million times this season where he has been little more than an elderly cripple. I am of the opinion that he is too broke down to run. His “veteran tactics” are beyond old school to the point of ridiculousness and he simply demands too much time with the ball, keeping it out of the hands of our young killers.
“Demands” is a key word there. I think I would like Andre a lot more if he came in like the veteran presence of Juwon Howard. Juwon didn't demand anything when he came here. He knew a 54 win team is something you want to support and not mess with. He tried to blend in, Andre is trying to take over.
If you wanted a point guard that could score you were in luck, we already had one. Bayless has been bringing his whole heart and soul to the floor for us every time Nate calls his number. He is instant offense. And the good kind, the “and one” kind. The kind that gets opponents in foul trouble, the quick kind, the young and fearless kind.
What we should have done was (for the love of God, dump Sergio! and) simply promote Bayless.
A lot of people want to chuck Steve Blake out with the trash these days but these people are dead wrong about him. He isn't flashy and he probably isn't going to score 20 pts. on any given night but he is consistent and that is THE most important thing for a point guard to be. He didn't need to score to be a weapon. We have other weapons. Steve seems quite content (and talented) to feed ammo into the weapons. He hasn't been shooting well in the last few games but I attribute that to him being forced into a new role where his points are more heavily relied upon and not just icing on the BRoy/LTrain/Oden cake. He was the perfect PG for the team we were fielding and he and the rest of the starters were really beginning to show the deep playoff goods. Don't you remember thinking “One more year together ought to do it”?
I do.
I know that we have been stung by some key injuries, Nic and Travis have been awesome pieces in Nate's puzzle. But the fact is, their bench relievers have stepped up thus far and filled their roles admirably. Webster has proven to be streaky, and he doesn't always make the best decisions but these are things we could easily say about Travis at the best of times. And like Travis, when Martell's shots start falling I want to weep with joy. Cunningham reminds me A LOT of Batum in the effort, youth, strength, and willingness-to-do-the-dirty-work categories. If Nate were to insert him into last years starting unit, just like he did with the French rookie, I certainly would have no argument.
If Nate wants to do experimenting, I agree with him that it should happen with Miller coming off the bench. Heck, do the three guard thing but do it with Miller and Bayless. Just leave that 54 win team alone and let them grow up together.
Rasta
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You had me until you called Blake consistent
He hasn’t been consistent this season, which is as much, if not more, a reason for a struggles as Andre Miller.
I agree that Blake is a "Blue Collar,Lunch Pail" kind of guy like Joel, but...
Steve keeps forgetting to put his lunch inside the pail!
He keeps forgetting to bring it and the Blazers basket is not getting properly fed!
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he's not forgetting his lunch
he keeps putting his lunch on his head and his hat in his mouth.
Pryz is a great rebounder
I think what he means is they’re both one-trick ponies.
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by NoiseMekanik on Nov 30, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
Both solid. Neither likely to be starters on championship teams.
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by NoiseMekanik on Nov 30, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
going into the playoffs last year, you didn’t think we had even the tiniest shot at winning it all?
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
Two thoughts at once are possible.
One can like the team and not think they’re good enough to win it all.
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
Yeah. He's the sole reason why they're a jumpshooting team.
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
Dude, what have you been smokin' Rasta man?
Blake is awesome?????
Blake’s PER has been below 10 for almost the whole season. That is a level of production that gets rookies benched. He has been lousy: his shooting is way down; his turnovers are up; and his defense is, at best, marginal.
You criticize Miller, and it is true that he has not played up to the level of the last few years where his PER was around 18, but he is still playing much better than Blake with a PER of 14.4.
Lousy analysis leads to faulty conclusions.
by upper left corner on Dec 1, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
I am not saying Blakes numbers aren't down
Just that they are down due to the new role he is being asked to play. I am thinking that his PER would be just fine if we ran the same offense as last season.
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
yeah, its andre's fault blake is playing awful
and that both outlaw and batum are hurt
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
Right, Miller ruined your team
Ask anyone in pro sport, even last year’s champions, and they will all tell you how being complacent and not actively trying to improve your team will simply lead to getting gradually worse. Heck, both Nate and Roy talked about that last year, go through the archives, you will hear Roy flat out stating he needed help after that Rockets loss. Blake was a great PG to get us to 54 wins, no one will argue with that, he is steady, makes few mistakes, nothing fancy… he will however not get your team to get much better than last year’s team. Miller, while we can argue all night about many pluses/minuses, we can all agree that he makes Oden and LMA better, they have both stated that. If that translates in less points from Roy and more inside points, I think the team will be better in the long run. So no, Miller has not ruined your team, he might make it better, and even if he is not the answer at PG for the future, I think he makes us all realize how much this team needs inside scoring to win in the consistently in the playoffs.
Roy needs help, yes
I think in the interviews you are talking about Roy is asking for his current (‘08/’09) team mates to step up. I don’t think he was asking KP to get another scorer.
I know Roy wasn’t asking for what he got.
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
Miller Is Not Being Allowed To Operate!
by blaze1 on Nov 30, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is right on
Miller has not been given the freedom to play his game. He has a reputation for making others on the floor better, but Nate still calls most of the plays, no freedom to operate. He makes LA and ODen better and he can do that for Roy to, but they never are really on the floor together as point guard and shooting guard so nobody, including Roy, sees the benefit.
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by PDXBuckeye on Nov 30, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Please...
someone explain to me what the wonderful, magical, Mr. Miller has done that has improved last years team.
…..other than replace Sergio. =)
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
your right he has done nothing to improve on last year
but that could be due to the way he is being used.
ummm
steve blake is still starting…miller gets inconsistent minutes…doesn’t get to play with a steady unit of talent…gets benched…
by pdxlifer on Nov 30, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
wait
"Demands" is a key word there. I think I would like Andre a lot more if he came in like the veteran presence of Juwon Howard. Juwon didn’t demand anything when he came here.
juwan didnt demand because, he isnt very good. Andre is good, if we wanted a veteran point guard that did deserve minutes and will just be a veteran presence, there are are always guys out there in the FA wire like brevin knight. Andre is a really good basketball player, and thats the reason we brought him in,
We brought him in to play, not to wave a towel and mentor like juwan howard
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
Juwon isn't good???
I know he is old but what league are you watching? The guys a Bullets legend =p
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
Maybe in years past...
For the Blazers he is little more than a mannequin on which to place a uniform. He’s made a couple and-ones. Other than that all I’ve seen is horrid defense. He has one of the worst PER rankings in the league.
Patrick Ewing was pretty awesome back in the day. That guy is a legend. Does that mean we should sign him as backup PF?
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by NoiseMekanik on Nov 30, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Other than his horrid jump shot...
and yes I do know how awful it is, he has been every bit as effective as Blake. He plays fewer minutes than Blake, but has more points, a higher field goal percentage, more assists, more steals, more rebounds, higher free throw percentage, is a better finisher at the rim, gets to the line waaaaaay more often than blake, and is a better passer and playmaker. I just wish he would stop shooting 3’s.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t dislike Blake. They just have different skill sets. Andre is way better on the fast break and in late game clutch situations. He knows how to run and get the team running when they’re hot. That is something that was sorely needed from this team. I’m not saying the team needs to run and gun constantly, but it’s a deadly weapon to have in the arsenal. You can switch pace and put a real hurt another team when done properly.
The team we had last year was destined to be a playoff runner up. If the 08-09 Blazers were truly just a few improvements away from a championship without personnel changes then it would have been left to mature.
What would you like to have seen happen instead?
If you believe Andre is so toxic to this team then what would you like to see done about it?
An Oregonian in Texas.
by NoiseMekanik on Nov 30, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kinda like in Utah?
That worked well….
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by NoiseMekanik on Nov 30, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
Is this a joke?
After skimming through your article and reading some of your comment replies, I really hope this is a joke.
“Andre Miller ruined my team!”
“Blake is awesome!”
“Juwon isn’t good???”
“The guys a Bullets LEGEND”
You can’t be serious.
by Coastie07 on Nov 30, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
used to be good
not anymore
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Nov 30, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
It is not Miller's fault that Blake, Aldridge, Roy and Przybilla are playing worse than last yar
and Batum and Outlaw are hurt.
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by jksnake99 on Nov 30, 2009 5:41 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
roy and
la are playing worse because the offense is totally different. Blazer fans are pissed at roy for not being as great as he was last year but want him to play off the ball more. Dont you see the problem with that? Its easier for teams to play the blazers now because its much better to guard roy away from the ball than when he has it. Thats why he’s pissed. They need to figure something out quickly these 2 weeks could determine if nate will remain coach of this team.
Interesting comment
I think you’re right, but that part of the problem is that even though other teams are guarding Roy differently, he has not made an adjustment to help out his teammates.
I think a huge issue is the lack of defense.
Even when they were statistically playing good defense, we all saw that other teams were having horrible shooting nights — missing many wide open shots. Now, they’re hitting them. More so than the offense, the defense is porous and is preventing Portland from sticking around in games like they did last year.
Yes it is.
They are playing worse because they have had to rewrite their team bible all over again to squeeze his crippled arse into it.
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
They aren't playing worse because of Miller
Miller didn’t even start until game 6. And even then, NATE (not Andre) made things weird by going with 3 guards instead of letting Dre take a run at starting PG.
I wanted
Kirk, roy wanted a backup power forward who could bang the blazers got a ball dominant aging pg who has no future with the team and never led a team past the 1st round in all his years in the league.
Hey Rasta--
Methinks you been hittin the ganja, mon.
It is simple: Start Miller, give Oden 20 touches in 30 minutes per game, and do NOT extend Nate's contract. Problem solved.
Changes
First off, here is a link to a song for you to listen too while you read this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeMKM-eQPB4
So your telling me that we should still have Oden coming off the bench and leave the starting lineup from last year in tact? Our 54 win team? Oh wait, Batum is out too, but you covered that.
Really the only 3 people who are on the floor now who are in the same place as last year are Blake, Roy, and LMA. Oh wait, for a while there Blake and Roy were playing out of position under what I would say necessity due to Batum being out and Nate trying to get something going that works AND makes the players on the roster happy while minimizing the sacrifices so no one player is taking the brunt of it all. (Even though I think Roy and Pryz are the two players who could take it, and Pryz is already there as a second stringer)
So that leaves LMA as the only player who is now in the same place from last years starting lineup (you know, our 54 win team) and has had the minutes to get comfortable with it. Everyone else has had to adjust and get used to each other adjusting as well. Not to mention the new players, and people are wondering why they dont look like the 54 win team right now.
The team we had last year is gone. Thats just the way it is. The reason last years team was so amazing was that no one expected us to pull off what we did. We would have an even better record if we would have been able to close out in Cleveland and a couple other games as well. We still have the most promising young team in the NBA, we will get there. Right now we are going through growing pains.
"OK, it's going to rain tomorrow. And there is going to be a Greenpeace meeting and hippies are going to be protesting" ~ The Buffet of Goodness on Portland
I know
Teams change. You’re right. I have been dreaming of a continuation of last year.
And there has to be an adjustment period. But I still have severe doubts that Miller was what we needed, he hasn’t really stepped up AT ALL in my eyes.
Bayless was already a year into Nates system and he can do just about anything Andre can do except that he will do it faster, and for way longer.
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
Honestly
I dont think he has been given the chance to step up to that level you dream of. I dont think he ever will.
When I heard that we picked up Miller, I was quite happy. Why? Not because he was going to be our point of the future, but he would be able to help out our point(s) of the future. Mainly Bayless. To me the biggest thing that came from this summer was watching Bayless trip over his own shoelaces in the summer league. Quite honestly the only person on this team who could really show Bayless the ropes is Nate. But he is the head coach and has to spend his time with ALL the players, not singling out one or two specific guys.
Do you think Blake would be able to teach Bayless anything of long term value? No? Then bring someone in who plays a lot like him to sponge off of. Enter Miller. Has it been working out? Maybe. We will eventually see and one thing I am certain of, Bayless is looking a hell of a lot better in games now then he did in the summer league.
So has Miller ruined the team? Eh, I think its a bit too early to tell. The over use of the cake analogy that KP is known to throw around can also be used here. Right now I feel like the cake just got done being mixed up, we took a taste of cake batter (mmmm cake batter… 54 wins tasting cake batter), and we are now in the oven stage where things are hot and uncomfortable. I dont see Miller as the icing on the cake a lot of people were thinking he would be and we would miraculously win a food network challenge.
Right now I am seeing a few things:
~Roy is hitting that “rookie wall” he should have hit a while ago but was just too determined to let it happen to him.
~LMA is still trying to establish himself and prove that he was worth the contract he got. Explains the foul margin to date for him.
~Oden is still establishing himself as well. We know he will be worth every penny if he keeps the momentum he is starting to build. (Juggernaut from Xmen anyone?)
~Rudy is tired. Did he even stop playing since last year for any extended amount of time?
~Webster is happy to be on the court and willing to play every game like its his last. But to me thats not necessarily a good or bad thing.
~Blake and Miller are both unsure of what the future holds and are realizing that there is a possibility that their NBA careers are getting within a few seasons of ending. Its kind of like watching elderly people in a nursing home when one of their friends passes away.
~Pryz just had his career year. He will NEVER be able to top what he did last year. Played every game and was a rebounding beast. His focus should become to help Oden come into his own. If he wants to continue his NBA life, start looking at what skills you need to pick up in order to become a coach because it begins now.
~Bayless seems to know about as much as we do in terms of his future and where he will end up. He could become one of the greatest guards we have ever had suit up in the crimson, black, and white. Or become one of the greatest that has suited up against us. The organization seems to be focusing a lot of time and effort into him though. More so then with Martel or Outlaw it feels like. Silver spoon complex perhaps?
The rest of the guys are either injured or just playing pickup minutes. Although I am enjoying watching The Inferno play. I would not want him to set a screen on me. Wow. Boy is tough.
So yeah. There are some things that need to be worked out and I have a feeling we will get another taste sometime before the all star break. We wont drop too far in the rankings and still make the playoffs and in the end, thats what really matters.
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by Blazer on Nov 30, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
rastamonsta = nate mcmillan?
i’m not quite 100% confident of this as there’s only 1 paragraph on blake and some bayless praise.
by alex2j on Nov 30, 2009 6:26 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I remember
Gotta get hang of this mobile.
I remember a lot of fans saying “one more year” plus “a banger to backup lma” which we now have in Cunningham, plus “a starting pg to fill in for Steve while Jerryd develops” which we now have in Miller. I remember a strong minority who was saying what you said in the main post.
by jiminut on Nov 30, 2009 6:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I understand what you're saying
But I really believe our team will figure it out and will get back on track. But here’s the important thing: it’s going to take a little time. This isn’t the time to scapegoat our Blazers need the support!
I love this team. Brandon Roy and the rest of these guys have earned, at the very least, is my patience and understanding as a fan.
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by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Nov 30, 2009 6:31 PM PST reply actions
+ 1
It’s two games & the Utah game was a road game in a back to back.
* Denver lost to the Timberwolves at home on Sunday night. I wonder if
the Chicken Little fans in Denver are demanding someone’s head on a platter ?
It’s the NBA folks. A marathon, not a sprint. That said, we need more effort on
DEFENSE and the offensive boards !
It's GO time !
let me guess...
you’re 15 and have been following the NBA for the past couple years since the Blazers became relevant again?
Rose Quarter Peanut Vendor.
Yea that really qualifies you.
by blaze1 on Nov 30, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That is true
Anyone with a keyboard is allowed to be an expert on the Inner Nets.
....................invented by Al Gore.
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Why is this relevant?
If you don’t want to reply to the topic then move on. Questioning the character of the poster is uncalled for, as is the suggestion that somebody who is 15 has nothing positive to add to the discussion. Shall I guess your age?
If anybody's shrill, it's the Outlaw, Nate, and Blake haters.
Posters on this talk about them like they insulted their mothers or something. I hear so many snide remarks about them—it almost gets personal—that I feel compelled to post something in their defense even as I’ve questioned Nate’s coaching, Blake starting (but getting crunch time minutes more), and Travis’ game recently. They’re average NBA players and hard workers; they’re not terrible like everyone makes them out to be, and they’re definitely not creeps to the fans like Blazers in the past have been.
Don’t get the wrong idea—I don’t agree with the OP’s argument because he’s going a bit far with it. Just saying.
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
Miller really doesn't hurt the team in any way that Sergio didn't before.
He’s not the reason Blake has been so bad, guys are hurt and Roy, LMA and Joel are all playing at a level below where they were last year.
Millers dribbling at least usually leads to something.
haha
Well I would argue that Millers high profile is the only addition to the pain of Sergio. Sergio tried to talk tough about getting more minutes but no one had to listen because he was Sergio.
Now we have to do something because (/cue singing angels) its Andre! And when Andre whines, people gots ta listen!
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
i think that andre's career have giving him the right
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Nov 30, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
lets see
andre=10 year starter
sergio last year=3rd year player that has never cracked the rotation
i think one of them as earned the right to be listened to. oh, and miller is outplaying blake, sergio wasn’t. that might also had something to do with it.
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Nov 30, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Does this mean replace Oden with Przy?
Trade Oden! Trade Miller! Bring back last year!
""He's (Andre Miller's) a big breath of fresh air for me," Oden said. "When he comes into the game, he's like, 'G.O., we are going to run a play for you so you can try to get the other big man in foul trouble.' That definitely puts a big smile on my face."
This is a tougher call...
honestly, I am tempted to say yes. I would like Prz back in with the starters. He brings stellar (often) foul free defense and narrows the offensive focus to Ltrain and Brandon.
I would not be opposed to letting Oden loose on other teams back-up centers for another season. With the way he has improved, he could be a real focus of the second squad offense, successfully incorporating all of our big three’s offensive potential.
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
He wants to give a hand to the opposing defenses
If we never learn how to play team basketball, the terrorists win.
Przy > Oden?
Serious? I love blue collar. I think any sports fan does to some extend. But you use the weapons you have in this game. It’s not a jigsaw puzzle where you find the exact fit. Yes, when picking players (trades, free agent, draft) you should consider what your team needs. But when the season starts you play the best players you have at their positions.
Greg > Joel
LMA > Dante
Martell > Injured Reserve
Brandon > Rudy
Andre > Steve
Then for subs, you do the same process.
Joel > Dante
Dante > Juwan
Rudy/Dante/Juwan > Injured Reserve
Rudy > Jarryd
Jarryd > Steve
It’s not complicated. If you disagree on the personnel, fine. But it’s the only process that counts.
The only exception...
Is if you’re building / re-building. Your younger players need minutes if you want them to develop. There’s a very strong argument for starting Jerryd if you want to look ahead to next season. Personally I think this could be our year so I would start Andre. Those are your only options at point.
i'm not talking about shots
i’m talkign about his talent in feeding ammo.
Andre Miller has more assists in less minutes than Steve Blake….I think Andre seems quite content (and talented) to feed ammo into the weapons.
first off, neither is miller
and second, blake, who’s only strength over miller is his shooting, is shooting below 40 %, he can’t really complain
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
by thomasikehara on Nov 30, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
In all honesty I think we ruined Miller
12 years of great playmaking, distribution, know-how, and team contributions. I don’t think it’s a coincidence he’s playing at a subpar level here.
by RecordTOs on Nov 30, 2009 9:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
thats how i feel.
when your as consistent as miller is for 12 yrs, and playing on different teams, of different skill levels, that says something.
Hopefully he starts realyl Ballin soon, and then Portland fans, as fickle as they are, will be buying their miller jerseys
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by lanepete on Nov 30, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Please start ballin any time Andre
I will gladly make the “Andre Miller saved my team” thread when he decides to show up like the highly touted vet he was billed as.
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
He hasn't started at PG once this freakin' season
And in the games he did start at SG alongside your darling Blake, B-Roy was at the three. The Blazers’ record in those games? 6-1.
The record when A Miller had to sub in? 6-6.
Scoreboard, baby. Scoreboard.
by LaoTzu on Dec 1, 2009 1:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Numbers dont lie.
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by leeroyjenkins on Dec 1, 2009 7:31 AM PST up reply actions
Good thing the Blazers won't have cap space until they are long gone from the NBA
"This isn’t making staples, where you’re just making staples." - KP
well, we will have the MLE's, but yeah, not like anyone's going to want to come here, get jerked around, and play at a snail's pace
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Money, playing time, a winning team
That’s the order NBA players follow when signing with a team. I’ve never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever heard of a player not signing with a team because of pace.
"This isn’t making staples, where you’re just making staples." - KP
Who the hell is rec'ing this?
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this thread is insane
Dude, are you really serious about this argument? It makes absolutely no sense, Miller has a long history of making “bigs” better all around him, from Majerus, his college coach, all the way to his coaches and team mates playing for the 76’ers. He plays less than Blake, has better numbers all around except 3 point percentage and Oden and LMA flat out love playing with him. Ewww…
by pdxblaze on Nov 30, 2009 10:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
So does this mean Greg needs to return to the bench?
Obviously he wasn’t part of that “beautiful, synchronous starting unit” that won 54 games.
by nikolokolus on Nov 30, 2009 10:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
The blazers
wanted to get past the first round so they signed andre miller. Now that is comedy. .
oden has already said that he loves playing with andre more than anyone else
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Andre (in a 2 guard lineup)
"Good defense always beats bad offense."-Al Iannazzone, Yes Network
If you're happy with a middle seed and a first round exit, then yes Miller ruined your team
Many of us have higher expectations.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Dec 1, 2009 7:31 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
um...
We all have to admit that in spite of our dismantling in the playoffs, we were all pretty excited about what Nate had cooking last year.
No, no we don’t. This team as constructed last year (and I’m talking gameplans as much as personnel) was never going to win a title. So, saying we all have to admit we were excited about it is fallacy.
Miller has not ruined this team at all – putting the blame on him is ridiculous. the guy has been asked to play a style and gameplan that he has pretty much never played, and that doesn’t suit his talents. But somehow the blame for that goes to him?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Dec 1, 2009 8:52 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Excuse me for being excited about last years team.
Miller and his ball requirements have led the team to reconstruct their offensive and defensive strategies entirely. While I definitely AM a Blake posse member, I am NOT (as I was careful to point out in my original post) and Andre hater. However, I feel that this reconstruction is the source of our current troubles which is exactly what all of the players and coaches are talking about when they say this is an “adjustment period”.
I simply put forth the idea that we probably could have got by just fine by promoting Bayless and continuing to build on our successful formula.
….oh, and that Andre is WAY past his prime =)
2010 IS OUR YEAR PEOPLE!!!
How did 4 people rec this?
Sincerely,
Twiggs
President and Owner of the Andre Miller fan.club.
Start Miller. Trade Steve Blake.
Easy
It’s funny and folks are sick and tired of folks calling Blake the n-word and Nate a cracker.
"This isn’t making staples, where you’re just making staples." - KP
hate on blake all you want
but other then getting odens confidence up, all ive seen from miller is him trying to shoot 17+ foot jumpers (if you can call what he does a jumper) or getting completley rejected when going for a crazy layup,that everyone knows hes doing to draw the foul, which works mayber 50% but prolly less. someone needs to tell this guy to stop shooting unless its a layup (and an easy one)
Atleast with blake, our all-star plays better, and i rather him play better then having miller start.
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