LaMarcus Aldridge: Rasheed? or Rashard?
Here's a quick and dirty (and probably wrong, but what the hell) idea on how to improve the offensive flow of the Blazers. I'll ignore the Andre/Roy issues, and focus on the post.
The Problem: With Oden manning the post and being a beast, along with LMA assuming his usual position on the high blocks, there's less room for the guards to drive to the hoop--with our bigs down there, so is the defense, and in position to challenge the shot. This is exacerbated in Miller is in the game, as he isn't a legimate threat from deep (it would be nice if HE knew that, but that's beside the point).
With that in mind, we shall focus on LaMarcus Aldridge, in particular his role on offense. Right now, most of his shots in the halfcourt offense are medium-range jumpers, often of the turnaround variety. That shot, coupled with his general skill at outside shooting, his ability to run the court, and his tendency to avoid physical play inside, has long prompted comparisons with Rasheed Wallace--originally, he was touted as Sheed without the issues. On defense, not so much--Wallace is one of the best defensive PFs in the game, LaMarcus, not so. But on offense, the comparison is somewhat valid.
But Rasheed has never in his career played with a beast like Oden. The centers have played with include high-post behemoths (Sabonis), and defensive specialists (Davis, Ben Wallace, Kendrick Perkins)--guys who generally get out of the way on offense. Prior to this year, LMA has been paired with defensive specialists (Prz--we'll forget Jamaal Magloire) in the post, and as a result has had room to work. But now he's got Oden.
The solution? It might not work--LMA hasn't focused much on long range play--but maybe it's time to follow the sage advices of guys like Stan Van Gundy and Rudy Tomjonavic, on How To Win With a Dominating Big Man.
I'm talking some form of the wagon wheel offense. I'm talking about taking Aldridge out of the post altogether, and turning him into a face-up jumpshooter on offense, including letting him launch 3s. I'm talking about turning him not into Rasheed Wallace, but instead into Rashard Lewis.
The Orlando Magic have been kicking lots of butt this year with a lineup not dissimilar to our own in many respects. You have an intelligent penetrating point guard (Nelson/Miller), a dominant wing player (Vince Carter/Brandon Roy), and a dominating big man (Howard/Oden). But look at the forward spots--the Magic choose to employ TWO perimeter weapons, leaving Howard alone in the post on offense. Last year it was Rashard and Turkey-glue; this year Hedont is gone, replaced with Ryan Anderson. While Lewis is a volume scorer, Anderson plays the reliable-jumpshooter-when-open role--albeit on who can play credible defense on big men at the other end. (A weakness of last year's Magic was trouble guarding opposing 4s; as neither Lewis nor Hedo were strong post defenders).
For an older example, consider Clyde's rockets. With Hakeem in the middle, and four perimeter players (Horry, Mad Max, Clyde, and Kenny Smith) all of whom the defense had to account for.
So maybe rather than lining up to the elbow with his back to the basket, LaMarcus ought to channel his inner Rashard and play facing the basket. Assuming he can improve his range to keep his defender out of the post, he might become a feared weapon--at 6'11" not many defenders will be able to block his shot. He can still crash the offensive boards, and venture inside to set picks if necessary. Many LMA critics will of course scream bloody murder (much criticism of him seems to derive from the belief that all power forwards should be Karl Malone)--but
So maybe the solution for the Blazers woes on offense is for LMA, rather than doing what lotsa folks want him to do (take it inside!), is to do the exact opposite. He seems to have the range (although he doesn't take 3s very often, and when he does they're frequently high degree-of-difficulty shots against the clock), and he's long and lean enough to still crash the boards. And it would clear out the middle for Oden and the guards to operate.
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Interesting...
This would seem to be more of an option for next year unless LA is just waiting to be given the green light to move out beyond the arc. They should have kept Channing if that was the plan.
I keep pushing for more sets with LA flashing out to the elbow on the side that Oden has established position and have him feed the beast or hit the 12 footer if his defender sags. It seems to work when employed but is not a regular facet of the offense. Nate keeps ignoring my texts.
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While Vince replaced Hedo as the primary on-ball perimeter weapon, they play different positions. Last years’ Magic tended to platoon Michael Pietrus, Courtney Lee, and JJ Redick at the shooting guard position, now you got Vince. Last year’s team had Hedo at the 3 and Lewis at the 4; now Rashard is playing his more natural position, and Anderson plays the 4.
This years roster is probably stronger, as they don’t have the mismatch issues at PF with Anderson on defense, and Vince is better at breaking down a defense than Hedo.
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by EngineerScotty on Nov 30, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
Very interesting.
It might work, especially since Aldridge could just go back into the post once Joel or Cunningham get into the game. I wouldn’t mind him taking three’s, actually I might actually prefer it to most of the long two’s he takes.
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 30, 2009 2:45 AM PST reply actions
I think
This premiss deserves some thought. Lamarcus could very well model his game after Chris Bosh, still. Bosh was primarily a perimeter threat until this year, after managing to put on significant weight over the offseason. It took him 6 years to get there, as this is his 7th season. Lamarcus has only been in the league for three years and is in his 4th year now. Bosh was also of slight build until recently, a malady that LA suffers from as well. I think in another year or two LA might be able to bang a little better. For instance, prior to the last two games, he was doing a much better job on the boards than he was in previous years, especially this early in the season. This appears to be a direct result of his offseason regimen and the maturation of his body. He looks bigger than last year in the chest and shoulders, something that over time can be improved. In three years time, he will be a battle tested veteran with a physique better tailored to bang with the big boys.
Therefore, developing LA’s perimeter game may be in his best interest now. Attacking the basket off the dribble would make him a much more effective threat in the offense. Not in the sense that he should be taking pull ups, but this way he can keep his man honest and still get to the foul line while making the defense work harder than it has too when he just shoots jumpers. If he could attack the defense off the dribble it would pull his man further from the basket alleviating some of the spacing issues we have when he and Greg are in the game. The attacking mentality would allow him to get to the line if he employs the same “take no prisoners” mindset he used at the end of last year when attempting to dunk on opposing players. This would make him and our offense more efficient and effective in the long run.
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i like the idea
i wrote something along similar lines a few weeks ago but my idea seemed to get ridiculed:
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/11/3/1112957/we-can-use-aldridge-better
May as well, I'm convinced LMA will never play inside
I had hopes this year but through 20 games it’s obvious LMA isn’t going to go inside any more than he did last year or the year before.
He’s a softy.
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I've been thinking the same thing. 3>2, you can't argue with math!
I actually don’t think it has to be a very radical change. All they need to do is have him take a couple of steps back in situations where he’s currently taking long twos, primarily on pick-and-pop plays. I think this opens up the floor for Roy a little on drives and gives Oden more room to rebound on the interior. I think Aldridge should continue to get the ball in the post as he does now. It’s not like allowing him to shoot three point shots means he never steps in the paint.
He might also set-up in three point range in a few additional situations: when Oden posts up and when Miller posts. In fact, in some ways Miller has a better mid-range and post game than Aldridge, so it almost make sense to flop their roles in half-court sets. I’d have to think harder about that, but I’d definitely like to see Aldridge ‘pop-out’ to three point range sometimes when he sets high-picks.
That's what the Suns did with Channing
But I"m not convinced it’s the thing LaMarcus should do. He should crash the boards along with Greg, and those two should pass it to each other inside when cutting. That would be much more devastating.
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I dunno know
I don’t think stepping two feet back on pick and pops hurts a players rebound rate much, if any. I am also not sure that Aldridge is really capable of passing and cutting effectively. I think becoming a proficient three-point shooter is a much more achievable goal for him.
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Why can't we use him like the Jazz use Okur?
And don’t tell me “we do”, because Okur shoots a lot of threes. Maybe LMA can’t do that as well but if the very THREAT was there, it would create opportunities for Oden inside and for a slashing wing player.
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Disagree. Rashard Lewis, statistically, was an above-average defender against PF's last year.
That wasn’t a weakness for the Magic, defensively, as the team finished #1 in defensive efficiency.
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LaMarcus did seem to do a fairly good job of defending the perimeter last year....
maybe he should spend more time out there….
On the downside I think this will make his rebounding numbers worse.
Awww dream on – Nate is not nearly this imaginative…..
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if his rebounds go down
but we start winning more…
I can live with that.
...and that's a good thing
by In Walks Rudy on Dec 1, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
I would like to see Aldridge shoot more 3s
But the 3s should replace the long 2 shots that Aldridge often takes rather than replacing his post-up opportunities. Aldridge is a versatile player who can post up and hit the long shots, we should let him do both. Just keep running the same plays for Aldridge that we run now, except modify them so that when he is spotting up he does so just beyond the 3-point line instead of just inside it. Actually, having the green light to shoot 3s might actually lead to more shots close to the basket for Aldridge rather than less due to the way it would improve his effectiveness in the pick-and-roll.
Your suggestion makes good sense and does seem to open the lane for Brandon and Andre to drive
The Orlando offensive strategy has been outside in with shooters around Howard. KP said not long after drafting Greg that our strategy would be Oden and LA inside and shooters surrounding. LA is a better post player every year and using him in there when Greg is not in the game also allows him to move to the perimeter more. His natural spot is the free-throw line as I think it is his best shooting % spot but he has taken and made threes and we certainly need somebody besides Webster hitting threes again. Well done sir.
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