Who to blame for the poor start
Who are you blaming for the luckluster start to the season?
Personally, I'm thinking Nate McMillan until something can change my mind. We don't feel commited to a point guard (Miller or Blake), he pulls Oden after a tic tac foul despite him playing well, and our rotation as a whole feels like a mess. It feels like day one of the rebuilding phase right now as no one is clicking with each other.
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Defense?
A defensive lineup usually involved a defensive player, and good match-ups. When you don’t have either Pryzbilla or Oden in there, and have matchups such as Rudy Fernandez on Marvin Williams, or Brandon Roy on Josh Smith, you’re defense is going to be weak. LMA is not a defensive stopper, neither is Outlaw, Webster, Blake, Rudy, or Miller. That leaves you with GO, Pryz, and B-Roy, who shouldn’t be guarding 3’s and 4’s but should be on their best player (i.e. Joe Johnson tonight). This is where i get to my point.
NIC, WE MISS YOU, GET WELL SOON!!!!!!!!!
Nicolas Batum is the person we need guarding the Johnson’s, or Carmello’s, and while his game isn’t the greatest, he is a better defender than any of our other SF’s. While Webster is helping offensively, we need defense at the moment.
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steve blake?
bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo, blake
START MILLER
hey nate, PUT A CENTER IN
i blame oden when nate dont let him play he should just go out there and be the sixth man on the court the reffs wont notice
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That was awesome
I just liked how we still got to keep the point from the play, haha
by Oden_Favre_28 on Nov 3, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
I voted Nate, because he could find a solution and hasn't...
…but the problem is the addition of Miller, which was a bad idea, despite the fact that he is a very good player. For that we can blame KP and Nate, or even Patty Mills for breaking his foot, or Bayless for sucking in Summer League, or Utah for matching our offer to Milsap, or Turkoglu for not taking our offer, of Turk’s wife for not liking America, or KP again for not coming up with something better, like acquiring a quality post player, and a stable back up point guard to upgrade Frye and Sergio. We could blame Darius Miles for killing $10million in additional cap space we could have had in the off season, which could have enabled us to hunt bigger game, or better yet, acquire two good players instead of one. We could blame the French National Team for getting Batum hurt.
If we forget those and a bunch of other unfortunate events, we come back to Nate, who has played too much “three guard lineup” against teams that have made us pay by scoring every time down the floor against our undersized defense. The small defense is also what is keeping us from being able to keep a lead once we build it. We need defense, and I don’t mean amazing defense, I just mean an average defense, where a 6’9 opponent has to play against a defender 6’8 or taller, not a 6’6 or shorter guy. Batum would be helping us big time against guys like Carmelo, but I’ll settle for Outlaw or Webster over having Roy defend him.
The Miller thing is going to take time, and I don’t want to write off the move before it’s had a chance to work, but playing either PG with two other guards is not helping, so it needs to stop ASAP unless we are playing against a small line up.
by wingzeta on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
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by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Nov 3, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
Adding Miller is a bad idea because you want to lose in the first round again?
Steve Blake is not a starting championship PG. Maybe Miller isn’t either, but he’s certainly better than Blake.
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by leeroyjenkins on Nov 4, 2009 7:10 AM PST up reply actions
the problem is not in adding Miller
it’s in adding Miller, then playing him like he’s Steve Blake. “Hey, sit on the weekside three point line and wait for a kickout pass”.
Nate is married to his “system” at all costs, rather than playing to the strengths of his players.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Nate the confidence killer Mcmiller!!!!!!!!!!!! aka Bayless & Cunninghams Nightmare!!!
For the third consecutive season he fails to name a starting 5 until a few days before the season opener.
What is this automatic substitution for Oden at the 6 minute mark whether he’s killin’ or not crap?!?! That urks me so bad!!!!! I wonder if Nate has any clue that just maybe if he actually let Oden play and went to him consistently that one of these 10 pt 12 reb games might be a 28 pt 17 reb 6 blk game!!! And that would propel his confidence to another level. He worked too hard coming back from the injury to have to be limited by Nates fears. Maybe Greg’s gonna have to do what Brandon Roy did and walk into the generals office, declare that he’s not being utilized correctly, and plead for his freedom to operate out there. I mean, the guy is averaging 7pts, 10 rebs and 3 blks in just 24 minutes, controlling the paint, leading the league in offensive rebs, shooting an efficient 57% from the field and 800% from the ft line. So imagine how effective he could be if he was allowed to get into his rhythm! But I guess Nate feels like 24 minutes for Greg and 24 minutes for Joel is fair to both.
I was understandably predicting Oden for the all star game but I have to retract that because I can see that Nate’s not gonna let him get his.
Secondly, Miller should have been starting! He just does more of everything minus 3 pt shooting, but he definitely scores, passes, posts up, rebounds and draws fouls at a far greater rate than Blake, last yr Blake only attempted 75 fts while attempting 328 3pters. Miller attempted an astonishingly low 53 3pters and amassed an equally astonishing 409 fts, which means he’s causing havoc for opposing guards. Now I love Blake for his efficiency and his three pt stroke, But it’s the pt guards duty to set the table for the rest of the team to eat, to get everyone involved and into the game. Miller can penetrate, collapse the defense and make a play for Oden, Aldridge, or whom ever is out there with him. He can set the tempo for us and get the other team on it’s heels. That is when I believe Blakes three pt barrage would benefit us the most, in that second wave. It says in the Art of War by Sun Tzu that you attack directly to engage the enemy, you attack indirectly to defeat them.
Men lie, Women lie……. Numbers don’t!!!
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ehh oden has been getting in early foul trouble...thus the substitution.
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by Philthyanimal on Nov 4, 2009 1:39 AM PST up reply actions
I hear the refs are also a popular option
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
Wait, the real refs or the replacements?
I hear it’s cool to complain about both
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by leeroyjenkins on Nov 4, 2009 7:10 AM PST up reply actions
When the players don't play with energy
then its the fault of the coach. When the players don’t know what to do when the play breaks down then its the fault of the coach. When a team can’t find any chemistry then its the fault of the coach. When said coach tells the fans and the media that the goal for the Preseason is to focus in the team’s defense and the team still sucks at it then its the fault of the coach.
Roy has been a diva and I don’t like it one bit. He talks about a lack of effort from the team but I don’t see him playing standout defense or even average defense. Shame on you B!
And Pritchard, way to go man you sure found us the perfect PG didn’t you? NOT! How about using Raef’s contract to get us a PG that Can play with this team.
Those 3 are the team’s leader and they need to act like it!
The whole team and the coach
is who I would blame. Honestly they are all playing like dogs, on both ends. And Nate’s been outcoached by Adelman and Karl both. No slouches, but still…
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I voted other...
Maybe we shouldn’t be so suprised with our sluggish start. What did we do this summer? Our two main stars, were distracted with contract negotiations. When you are waiting to “see the money”, the last thing you want to do is injure yourself. I think both Brandon and Aldridge did less prep for this season than in the past.
What bothers me the most about this latest loss (to the hawks at home) is the post game interviews with Aldridge and Brandon seem to indicate some disconnect or confusion as to why we are losing. It’s bad to lose, but worse to lose and not really know why it’s happening.
You can point to specifics. Defense, effort as a team as a whole. You can also evaluate individuals and individual performance. Of course, the coach is always an easy target. Poor coaches in the N.B.A., they get little credit when the team wins, and most of the blame if the team loses. You can look at all this, and ask who is to blame, but I feel the answer is it’s still too early to blame anyone. BECAUSE…
I really think the “Blame” is this. This team’s psyche changed with our entry into the playoffs last season. This summer we were no longer the young team trying to prove itself. I think, players and fans, and maybe even coaches bought into the press clippings. Most pre-season pundits and evaluators had The Blazers as improved, as having arrived. It was generally accepted that The Blazers would be a divisional challenger if not champion. No longer were we the team trying to arrive, in most evaluations we were the team that had arrived.
Did the players buy into this? Did we not show up early this summer? Did we not bond as a team with the goal and adversity of being a young team with something to prove as the galvanizing factor? Brandon said post game, he thought that “we” thought we would just take off from where we left off and The Blazers are discovering they have to work again, that other teams have improved.
We should of known this all along. I think what we are discovering as fans, as blazer players, as the local media and as a team in the N.B.A. is that it’s not enough to “make the playoffs”, have some talent and then expect it to be automatic. The best teams only make it look automatic, but it really never is. The L*kers, The Celtics, they have to work at it, they do work at it. They’ve got so much talent, they are so good at it that they make it look easy but it’s never easy.
I’m feeling maybe that’s what is mostly to blame, on everyone, Players, Team, and Fans. Maybe we thought this was going to be easy? Maybe we thought we were already an upper echelon team? Maybe we thought signing players to superstar contracts made them superstars?
Our reaction as fans now seems to support this. The season has barely started and we are taking this sluggish start way too hard. We are reacting as a fan base like a great start was guaranteed or deserved or a given. It never was.
Despite our struggling, and we are struggling on many fronts, I’ve seen nothing to suggest that many of our pre-season goals and hopes for this team aren’t possible. 5 games in, is way too early to call for the dismissal of coaches, or start being upset because you bought season tickets and have seen more losses than wins. I believe this team needs to work. I think individuals need to step up. That includes coaching. But I still believe. I still believe that at the end of this season we can be one of the top teams in the N.B.A. . I still believe that we can be division champions or fighting tooth and nail to be division champions. I still believe Brandon is an All-Star and that Aldridge can make a move to become an All-Star. I believe Oden has improved and I think he can and will continue to improve.
The fault is within ourselves if we thought these goals were going to be easy. Who do I blame? Ourselves. Players that maybe weren’t as focused on having something to prove and maybe believed prematurely that The Blazers and the team had arrived.
Yes, we broke back into the playoffs last season. Yes, I believe we have improved since last season. BUT we still need to work. Truth is, we have no history as a team save for a good season last year, and a 1st round exit in the playoffs. I think fans wanted instant “fun” instant wins, and to be placed in the upper echelon of the N.B.A. automatically. Unfortunately what this early season is teaching everyone is that nothing is automatic, nothing is a given. Every team in the N.B.A. wants to beat you, and most think they can. There’s a homogenized level of talent in the N.B.A., every team is pretty good on any given night. If you aren’t ready, or don’t play for 48 minutes? You can lose to anyone, anywhere, even your homecourt. If The Blazers knew this once, it seems they have forgotten it.
We’re losing with a whimper. We’ re losing with confused looks on our faces. We’re rolling out the Blame Game awfully early. I don’t think this team ails from anything that hard work wouldn’t fix. The balance of talent might not be perfect, the future might hold tweaks in line-up and roster, but there is no reason this team shouldn’t win a whole lot more games than it loses. If it’s losing? Look no farther than itself.
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