Game 19 Preview: Blazers vs. Jazz
Game Time: 6:00 p.m. Pacific TV: KGW
The Utah Jazz come into this contest 8-7 and indeed, they're having an 8-7-ish year. Their story is pretty basic. They've beaten most of the bad and mediocre teams they've faced. They've lost to every upper echelon team they've faced. The combination of the 2-3 mediocre team losses plus the elite guys balances out the wins against lesser opponents. And there you are.
The Jazz do a few things pretty well. They share the ball, spread the scoring, and shoot well from mid-range and in. This isn't the devastating offense of a couple of years ago but they can still score. 6 of their 8 wins have come when they topped 100. They also happen to be 6-2 when scoring 100 or more. The Jazz are decent rebounders and their bench is underrated.
Utah has also displayed several shortcomings in the early season. The most glaring one has been a disturbing lack of energy. They slough off their defensive responsibilities. They settle for obvious offense. That makes for some bad nights. Their main players turn the ball over too much. Outside of Mehmet Okur they don't have a good distance attack. They don't have shot blockers. They don't have a lot of team speed. In order to win consistently they have to play Jerry Sloan basketball and they're not always doing it.
Even with all that, the top six guys on this team can be as dangerous as anybody in the league. Carlos Boozer is a scoring machine, hitting 54% of his shots and scoring almost 20 per game plus 10 rebounds. Deron Williams is flirting with a double-double average also, scoring just above 19 and dishing almost 10 assists. Mehmet Okur is not providing All-Star level play but he is shooting 43% from the three-point arc. Andre Kirilenko has good games and bad but he can still defend and he's always been a nuisance to the Blazers. Ronnie Brewer brings athleticism to the two-spot and Paul Millsap scores and rebounds off of the bench plus his all-around game is improving. You don't have to give these guys much of a crack before they'll pound the door down. Their home turf isn't as friendly as it once was (they're 5-3 on the season at home) but it's always been a difficult place for Portland to play. No matter how the two teams are doing currently this is a tough matchup for Portland.
At many positions the strengths of the two teams clash. Deron Williams is a strong, bullish point guard who can score in droves. The Blazers field finesse guys. Okur is a distance-shooting center while the Blazer pivots prefer to camp in the lane. Kirilenko is a rangy, disruptive, defensive small forward while Martell Webster is more of a smooth scorer. Portland's bench plays flashy and tends towards skill players. The Jazz bench is more lunch-bucket. The two positions where you see mirrors are power forward and shooting guard. Aldridge and Boozer are both scorers, though Carlos is more experienced and by far the better rebounder. Roy and Brewer are both all-around guards, though Roy is far superior in talent and effect. Both teams also sport hard-line coaches with definite ideas about how the game should be played. It's just a nice mesh and clash of styles when these squads get together. You can never take anything for granted other than it's probably going to be a grind-out affair.
Pivotal Points of the Game
1. This game will be a real test of Portland's new-found defensive prowess. The Blazers like to shut down the interior. The Jazz love to score inside. Somebody is going to enforce their will on the other. That team will have a huge advantage. If Portland's defense is going to mean something it has to mean something in games like this. Last night's contest was not a positive sign. The Blazers need to turn it around defensively tonight.
2. Listen...please. The Jazz have problems getting back in transition. Repeat, the Jazz have problems getting back in transition. This game could be a clash between proficient halfcourt offenses. In that case you can probably flip a coin. But the Blazers could slip underneath the guard and deliver some stunning jabs simply by running. You can happily grind to a 60-60 standstill in the halfcourt if you finish ahead 20-10 on the break.
3. Can Aldridge stay close to Boozer's production? Will the Blazers let him try?
4. You have to worry about Okur on the perimeter. Somebody has to get a hand in his face. But that somebody doesn't necessarily have to be Greg Oden. It's time for the perimeter guys to help the Big Fella the way he's been helping them all year. Meanwhile what's Okur going to do trying to contain Oden on the other end? For that matter what could Boozer do? Or any of the Jazz big men? The Blazers ought to feed Oden early and often in this one. Draw fouls. Dunk. Get mean.
5. I'm not as frightened of Williams as I probably should be because I think the Blazers' interior defenders can help shut down whatever he does to the point guards. He might be able to post up Blake or Miller, for instance, but we can help with that. Guys like Brewer and Kirilenko scare me though. If they get hot, especially with the jumper, that opens up more possibilities for the Jazz to move the ball as the Blazer defense compensates. The Jazz moving the ball for free scores is probably their best shot at winning easily. I'm not sure the Jazz finish ahead on the strength of their top three alone, but if they bust out with #4 or #5 it could be a long night for Portland.
Final Thoughts and Links
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I've been a quiet Blake defender, not that I think he's a better player than Miller
but I did think that Nate’s rationale for using them the way he has been made some kind of sense. But Blake’s play has been so abysmal. It’s as if he’s trying to show that he can do some of the things Miller can do, and it’s not going well. His constant pulling up when he could push the ball. The complete inability to hit Oden when Oden has good position and then passign him the ball a second or two later after Oden is back on the high post. Overdribbling. It makes me wish Bayless inspired more confidence,.
Aldridge was disappointed especially on the boards and on defense. Wow.
Double ditto
I agree with your assessnent of Blake and LMA.Consistency,thats what its about,Blake doesn’t have it especially when his jumper ain’t goin.
by DowntownVinnie on Nov 28, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
Not to mention LMA's love of the outside shot.Takin threes ,c'm
LMA’s love of the outside shot.Takin threes ,c’mon Throw it down,big fellah
by DowntownVinnie on Nov 28, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
If I had to rank my most hated rivals over the years
The Lakers would be #1 but Utah would be #2.
A win in Utah vs. the Jazz is always a good thing.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
How
can you not hate Sloan coached teams.Karl Malone, one of the biggest cheap shot artists in basketball.Same with Stockton.I really hated then in those days
by DowntownVinnie on Nov 28, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
the 3 was a broken play
where aldridge ended up with the ball far out on the perimeter and no time on the clock. he stepped backwards and made it.
that shot didn’t bother me at all. the 5 other 18 footers he took (even the ones that went in) made me crazy.
Bench Blake
I’m long tired of this “second-unit” notion that people keep perpetuating. It’s not about having 2 units—there’s always one starter, at least, with a second unit, so why this myth? To make guys feel better about not starting? Work Rudy’s ego?
Anyway, enough. Blake needs to go to the bench and Miller needs to start. Aldridge needs to stop taking awful shots like he did last night, needs to be more selective, get inside, play defense.
Ah, anyway, I’m frustrated after the Memphis game, and I anticipate Utah playing very well against the Blazers.
thank you
who’s boston’s 2nd unit? how about the lakers?
does anyone say… let’s move artest to the “white” unit so he can run with adam morrison and sasha vujacic?
play the best guys. rudy and miller should both average more minutes than blake.
Box out, box out box out
Memphis got so many ridiculously easy putbacks when we were trying to comeback tongiht. Now they are one of the few teams as tall as us but we can’t let Utah do that.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
amen
of course our bigs NEVER get help with others boxing out. if a guard penetrates all night, like they did tonight, you have to get other guys moving in to box out because the bigs get pulled away on help defense. WE NEVER do it, Atlanta beat us twice doing this, Golden State and Denver to some extent as well..
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
jersey contest
That Minnesota game glitch is a real shame. I’d guess that some of our Utah entry guesses might be riskier / more conservative if we knew the exact updated standings beforehand…
Anyway, thanks for the opportunity to win a prize.
I think we can win
Despite the horrible loss, I have a good feeling about this game. I hope we prove my gut right, and that it isn’t just gas.
Mortimer
Word around here
is that its ALWAYS gas.he he
by DowntownVinnie on Nov 28, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Ah...
Portland has also displayed several shortcomings in the early season. The most glaring one has been a disturbing lack of energy. They slough off their defensive responsibilities. They settle for obvious offense. That makes for some bad nights. Their main players turn the ball over too much. Outside of Rudy Fernandez they don’t have a good distance attack. They don’t have shot blockers. They don’t have a lot of team speed. In order to win consistently they have to play Nate McMillan basketball and they’re not always doing it.
My team went to the playoffs in my first year.
Nicely played and well said.
Utah and Portland are alike in so many ways. I think both teams would find more success from just running up and down the court on more occasions than they do. Both teams are very talented, but not talented enough that they can take games off and play with less energy and urgency. They both do it anyways and so sometimes they lose to teams they really shouldn’t lose to.
Game plans aside, this game comes down to who plays with the most energy and enthusiasm tonight. I expect both teams to “bring it” since it is a division game, but I think to see who wins tonight, just check out which team causes the other team to turn the ball over. I really think this game comes down simply to turnovers.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Thats what Nate said after the game
And in Broys interview ,he said it wasn’t energy.He said they just weren’t doin their job.It’s the same thing They both word it differently.But, good point
by DowntownVinnie on Nov 28, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
conclusion not supported by facts
The most glaring one has been a disturbing lack of energy. They slough off their defensive responsibilities."
Is this why they are a league leader in defensive efficiency? The Blazers have two games where they haven’t played up to par on defense. 2 out of 18. Fans have shown a disturbing tendency to not understand real trends or cause and effect.
In order to win consistently they have to play Nate McMillan basketball and they’re not always doing it.
They win consistently, making this statement inherently incorrect. Two of the losses (GSW and Memphis) are directly attributable to a failure of McMillan philosophy.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 28, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
neither is the conclusion you ended with...
“They win consistently, making this statement inherently incorrect. Two of the losses (GSW and Memphis) are directly attributable to a failure of McMillan philosophy.”
the blazers had a hideous number of turnovers in the gs game – they had a lot to do with losing. if mcmillan has one philosophy i think you could argue that it’s protecting the ball even if that means missing out on some easy baskets because the passes would be more dangerous.
in general it’s fine to disagree with people and point out the blazers solid defense in many games but you made yourself a hypocrite one sentence later.
McMillan puts the players in - and should know what they can or cannot do
Too many ball handlers is a concession he made after the GSW game. However – it is McMillan’s commitment to offensive schemes that take 20 seconds to execute that causes offensive failure against teams like Memphis and GS.
GS and Memphis are two of the worst defensive teams in the league – yet the Blazers have struggled to score against them. There is a reason – and it starts with Nate.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 28, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
i don't disagree that mcmillan
made errors in both of those games. what i’m trying to say is that you called out others for ignoring “facts” and for making “conclusions not supported by facts”. you then blamed two losses on mcmillan which is not an unreasonable opinion but an opinion just the same.
many things could be pointed to in those losses that have nothing to do with mcmillan.
Why are they a league leader in defensive effliciency?
Because they’ve played Minnesota three times. Three times! (Not to mention New Jersey, Oklahoma City, etc.) How have they done defensively against opponents who aren’t the worst offensive teams in the league?
okc
is one of the better teams that they’ve played.
Probably true
but that isn’t saying much. They’re not an offensive juggernaut, in any case. Not much of an inside game, lots of jump shooters, 97 ppg.
they've competed
and except for the road loss at Houston, have kept teams below their scoring averages.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 28, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Crises are often opportunities, if you take them as such...
Phew, I guess I’ll skip the Memphis game on my 5 game DVR fest this week… Although I probably should watch it, just to temper my usual optomism…
Do y’all think that perhaps Nate will use that evidently shameful effort to send a real message? Like perhaps start Andre Miller??
Actually, if Nate were a major cojones coach, completely in control of his team, like a Phil Jackson, he would use this opportunity to do something like start:
Andre, Rudy, Martell, Cunningham, and Oden….
THAT would send a message, eh? Perfect timing to do this on a back-to-back away game, when your players won’t miss the home town fans cheering their name.. I guarantee if Nate did this he’d get more effort from Roy and LMA….
Sigh, but I know better than to expect such a bold move…
I don't know if starting Miller sends the right message at this instant. Despite Blakes numerous
shortcomings, energy hasn’t been oe of them. He was one of the few players getting into the scrums and coming out with the ball last night.
First game I honestly don't think we have a chance to win.
I hope I am proven wrong!
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
Lack of Caring??????
What everyone is saying is true. As being a radio only spectator and not being a BB whiz, it appeared to me that anytime an opponent pushed to drive inside on every possession we folded or lost all our momentum; it appeared to me this was the reason for letting teams back in the game. All this is the lack of skills, toughness, or desire to get in and get dirty.
posters have said what I feel; only I didn’t know the reason.
My big thing in this loss wasn’t the losing, but the lack of interest and desire in the game. If the team doesn’t care if they win or lose is one thing, but not earning their pay or saying they get paid the same win or lose is another.
I don’t look for scapegoats (ha I read and learned, escape goat is a modern ignorance that I picked up from the young at heart.); it is a team’s effortless night. The team can’t 3pt shoot themselves out of every fight. They have to get in the trenches, get in the mud, get dirty to be proud and victories. Victories in if we gave it our all and win or lose on the scoreboard we are still victories. When was the last time the Blazers done that?
hg
Thats what
I’m talkin about ,Yeah,coach HG.Lets get tough.
by DowntownVinnie on Nov 28, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Blazers are 12-6 with glaring deficiences exposed by certain teams
you don’t get to 12-6 with lack of caring or effort. You don’t win in the playoffs until the deficiencies are fixed. If you lay the 6 losses on “lack of caring” or “effort”, then you will ultimately fail to understand true cause and effect and get beaten, in the end.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 28, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Possibilities of Truth.
I was angry when I wrote that and I was mostly talking about this game. Although every game, the team seems to go through a period of shooting nothing but 3’s. that is what I am talking about. get in and get dirty when the going gets tough.
I really do know the Blazers care, and I do know they put in the effort. What I don’t know is why they quit doing what is working for them and settle for outside shots when the D puts a little pressure on them.
hg
hg
They don't just settle for outside shots, they take bad outside shots out of rhythm
The Blazers are a very good shooting team when they take what the defense gives them. When teams pressure them, however – it seems like every shot is a bad shot.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 28, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
This could be the start of something bad
From now to Christmas the schedule is vicious. Ten of the 14 opponents are contending teams, and even the lower-level teams like Milwaukee, Sacramento and Indiana are on the upswing. There’s a Dec. 19-23 road trip through Orlando, Miami, Dallas and San Antonio. The Blazers have been feasting on turkeys up to now — I wonder if they’ll even go .500 for December.
going .500 in december
would be impressive. no one should expect that same pace in december we’ve seen to this point. that said i share your skepticism and i too suspect this is the start of something bad.
we could easily win zero games the week of the 17th to the 25th.
I hope it is the end of something bad.
Look back at all our wins and they have the same stats as the losses. Except for the Chicago game, even then we slacked off and let them make a game out of it.
We haven’t been playing good 48 minutes of BB all year long. Go back and take away all the outside jumpers and 3’s and what do we have left? That is what Memphis did last night Most teams tries to take away our inside game and that makes us flourish. Take away our outside game and we collapse. It has been that way all year long as stated on a previous blog. We just use our inside game to open outside shooting. When we finally start using our outside shooting to open up the inside then we will be the team that we all want. Until then there will be many games like last night. Unless last night game opened our eyes, then it will be the end of the bad beginning.
Therefore, I hope it is the end of something bad not the beginning
hg
Wes Mathews
Is starting for the Jazz I believe at the 2 or the 3. I honestly can’t remember where he starts, but I see a lot of Jazz games here in Utah and he’s actually a pretty good defender and doesn’t play too bad offensively. He’s the dark horse tonight to guard Roy and hopefully he is intimidated by the star power of Roy.
Wes Matthews is starting at the 3 in a role played by C.J. Miles -- who's currently injured -- last season.
Matthews, however, plays less minutes per game on average than sixth man Andrei Kirilenko. Regardless, Matthews is a guy to possibly watch out for tonight.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Dante
I think he could be effective guarding Okur if he starts playing from the perimeter.
This is one of those games that based on last night's effort, you say they have no chance
But they’ll probably win impressively. That Jekyll and Hyde stuff is cute in the regular season but it doesn’t work come playoff time as we’ve seen.
Blazer Fan
I don't know. Utah wants to win too and can operate in the paint.
The Blazers have been getting drilled by any team that can operate inside.
Of course, this aint the Utah of old.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 28, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Strike
my earlier comment. Broy’s post game comments were"Guys were just outta place.didn’t know where to be.
by DowntownVinnie on Nov 28, 2009 10:13 AM PST reply actions
Cut Blake
The only way to keep Nate from playing Blake is to get him off the roster.
by tominhawaii on Nov 28, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
rec
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
in the wise words of Timmay!, if you have to cut or trade a player just so the coach won't play him, you have the wrong coach.
'Cuse 88-Cornell 73. My Big Red failed to beat the spread by 2 points. Hence the new avatar.
This game is a loss, and I hope so too.
Time for the serious problems to be addressed. That wont happen without a couple of losses.
-Sophia
The Princess of Blazersedge
It just takes an iron fist to keep the riff raff under control and her princess hand is mad strong- Idoltime
oof
rooting for a loss. that’s harsh!:)
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 28, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Problem is that our turnovers have spiked. Nate won’t see much reason to pick up the speed if that continues. And that’s not on Blake, that’s on Roy, Rudy, and Miller. And the big guys, but not as much as you would think.
Ceterum censeo Lakers esse delendam
Yeah, I think people are starting to get too hard on Steve Blake.
As much as I rag on Nate McMillan’s simplistic high-low zone offense, that’s nevertheless the system in place offensively; thus, an off guard who can spread the floor should be played at the 1 in lieu of a pure point. There’s a reason that I kept yapping about how Kirk Hinrich would be a good stylistic fit alongside a ballside wing at the 2 like Brandon Roy, who himself has admitted — albeit rather selfishly — that he prefers to be a ball dominant perimeter player rather than a guy who plays, gasp, OFF the ball.
In this day and age, spreading the floor is of major importance. Although interior play — both offensively and defensively — still wins titles, perimeter players who can spread the floor are needed to play next to high usage iso scorers like Roy. So, while a pure point like Miller is outstanding for the development of Oden, it does hinder Roy.
Now, my fear with Roy isn’t how he meshes on offense with fellow perimeter players at the 3 and 1, but rather whether or not he’s willing to defer some to Greg Oden, who’s flat-out the only guy on this team — including even Roy — with the inherent talent to potentially carry this version of the Portland Trail Blazers to a championship.
To me, Roy must defer much more to Oden if he wants to justify playing an off guard at the 1. Also, if Roy is hell bent on having a defensive sieve at the 1 like Blake, then he needs to quit lollygagging — as well as bitching and moaning — on defense. My other huge fear, however, is that Roy lacks the mental and physical fortitude to buck up on defense, as he’s a complete ninny on that end of the court.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
this is exactly right.
Best appraisal of current situation I have read on here!
"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.
Hoping for a loss?
For shame! I’ll never understand this kind of thinking from fans. What, are we vying for ping pong balls?
by Corvid on Nov 28, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Go John Wall!
Tanking like its 2007! Woot!
:p
πάτερ, ἄφες αὐτοῖς, οὐ γὰρ οἴδασιν τί ποιοῦσιν.
by T Darkstar on Nov 28, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ha ha ha ...
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Head Czar of Amerika <--- Mortimer said so so there!!!
Ouch.
Tonight might be pretty painful to watch with Okur, Boozer, and Milsap ready to push LMA around and take the ball right at Oden’s chest.
Unless LMA starts boarding and putting pressure on the other team by operating in the paint, his team is going to have a tough time getting quality road wins.
Also, Utah has a bench that can come in, provide energy, and feed off the rabid crowd.
This could be another bad blowout loss for our guys.
They better bring it.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 28, 2009 12:54 PM PST reply actions
LMA plays exactly as he is asked to do.
He takes it inside far more than he is given credit for, but he predominantly shoots outside shots by design.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 28, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
yes you're right about this
fans though, if lma misses inside shots, don’t give him credit for taking it inside.
more info
LMA shoots 63% outside/37% inside – but scores 6.6 ppg outside vs. 5.9 inside. I too, would like to see him go inside more – but he needs space to do it.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 28, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
How are we gonna establish GO and LMA both.The paint is only so large
by DowntownVinnie on Nov 28, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
LMA playing exclusively inside
Means Roy never gets to drive to the hoop.
They compliment each other very well and are responsible for the others success.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
I want to see effort
first and foremost tonight. I want Roy demanding the ball and taking big shots. I want the guards harassing Williams and not allowing him to find seams in the defense. I want Oden fighting for position and being rewarded for it. I want to see a motivated, angry team eager to prove to themselves they can play with anybody in the league.
If I see all that, I can accept a loss.
While it'd be nice to win, this one's probably an L.
Given our record against over .500 team and the fact that it’s a second of a back-to-back, this one is probably an L. I’d like to see us come out with lot of energy and cut down the defensive mistakes and rebound better.
Isn't that what winning is all about.?
knowing how bad you just sucked but pretending that your’e invincibl.e
by DowntownVinnie on Nov 28, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions

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