Gameday Open Thread: Timberwolves vs. Blazers--Pre-Game Edition
by Dave on Nov 21, 2009 6:00 PM PST
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PrintAnother night, another team the Blazers should beat. There should be no mercy for the 'Wolves this evening. Discuss strategy, hopes, and other pre-game stuff right here. As always please be respectful of each other, stay on topic, and no requests for or posting of video stream links.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Let's go BLAZERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Gonna stand my ground ... and I won't back down" -- Tom Petty
"You have to know the past to understand the present." -- Dr. Carl Sagan
COMCAST SSSUUUCCCKKKSSS!!!!!!!!
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We are so up, creative and insightful already,
"Gonna stand my ground ... and I won't back down" -- Tom Petty
"You have to know the past to understand the present." -- Dr. Carl Sagan
COMCAST SSSUUUCCCKKKSSS!!!!!!!!
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Hi everyone
A member of GSoM here. Just thought I would say good luck for tonight’s game.
Will this matter a year from now?
Thanks. Be a Warrior!
"Gonna stand my ground ... and I won't back down" -- Tom Petty
"You have to know the past to understand the present." -- Dr. Carl Sagan
COMCAST SSSUUUCCCKKKSSS!!!!!!!!
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Play Bayless!
Please?
Mark my words... Dante Cunningham will be an all star
then again
a loss might make Nate expendable
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
by bow4meow on Nov 21, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Which "must" are we talking about?
This one? hehe
must 2 (mst)
n.
The quality or condition of being stale or musty.
OMG I just jizzed in my France
A rusty win doesn't sound very good...
Mark my words... Dante Cunningham will be an all star
by roynfernandez on Nov 21, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
*musty
Mark my words... Dante Cunningham will be an all star
by roynfernandez on Nov 21, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Busty
Big up front
There is a pleasure sure
In being mad which none but madmen know (Dryden)
by RandyinParadise on Nov 21, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
I say let's win this one for Dave
so he does not have to write about two losses in a row!
OMG I just jizzed in my France
There may have been some hubris going in...
OMG I just jizzed in my France
Hey Timmay
I also love evidence to support my posts haha
OMG I just jizzed in my France
If Steve Blake plays bad tonight...
you think Nate would consider not starting him the next game
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
never..
Blake/Nate = Romance.
Notes to Broyposse: "Don't let him pull that move, Don't let him pull that move! That's the move! Ohhhhhhh that's the move!"
So are we going to get a serious Oden Tease tonight?
After watching the first quarter I was thinking we were going to see some HUGE numbers, but they the first 30 seconds of the 2nd quarter happened. I hope Greg can just realize that when the guards get beat, he can take a pass some of the time.
OMG I just jizzed in my France
how about coach JOIN Oden in the battle against refs ?
New coaching rule: If Oden fouls out, Nate gets tossed attacking the refs.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
If andre is even slightly hurtin
it would be a good time to free Bayless. Poor kid needs a chance to show what he can do and is there going to be a better opp then tonight?
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Is Bayless back to 100% yet?
OMG I just jizzed in my France
he looked fine last night
andre on the other hand appears hobbled
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Did anyone else notice..
last night during halftime Mike & Mike were going over stats and the thing for Greg Oden said he had 24 rebounds in the first half
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
nope
I was looking for BRP and JKSnake. Anybody seen or heard from them today?
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
talked to him last night during the game.
he was behind the hoop, and dropping F Bombs about blake and nate.
Notes to Broyposse: "Don't let him pull that move, Don't let him pull that move! That's the move! Ohhhhhhh that's the move!"
WIN
#Blazers coach McMillan said he is moving toward using a three-fouls-in-one-half rule for center Greg Oden. #NBA
#Blazers coach McMillan hinted that lineup changes might be coming for tonight’s game. Also said injuries could be a factor. #NBA
Via Brian T Smith
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3 fouls in a half?
You mean he’ll coach like every other NBA coach and not help the other team win? It’s really sad he has to say he’ll play guys with 2 fouls in the 2nd quarter.
Your confusing thesis has captured my attention. Tell me more.
by terryisntbald on Nov 21, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
yes!!
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
Yes, but no..
i like that its focused on Brandon but if it is then Steve Blake is starting
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
Against Minny, chances are good,
proving: not much.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
And he says that Bayless will be getting more time.
I think he’s going with Blake starting. He didn’t say anything about the forward position.
It would be hard to make a starting lineup change (not involving howard) and somehow not win tonight.
It’s pretty much a free change for Nate.
Any bets
that the new starting lineup is the old starting lineup?
If it doesn’t include Miller we’re back to square one. If it does include Miller we need a three-point shooter. Martell? Rudy? Help?
—Dave
With his comment about Miller playing with the bench
It seems almost natural that it’s Rudy or Martell for Miller, IMO.
it'll be martell then
Brian Smith’s twitter:
#Blazers coach McMillan said he would not consider starting guard Rudy Fernandez. ‘I think he’s too valuable’ to the second unit. #NBA
My bet ...
Andre
Roy
Martell
LMA
Greg
what I’d like:
Andre
Roy
Rudy
LMA
Greg.
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Year5000
All I know is
that if “focused on Brandon” = Greg on the bench, there’s a good chance I get banned tonight. Jokes aside, hopefully it’s Martell for Blake (preferably) or Miller (not the right PG to yank, imo, but better than the 3 guard lineup).
"man, steve blake is clutch *dead*" - Ben Golliver on Twitter
by blazeraddict on Nov 21, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
I think Miller was limping last night after Ellis fell on him, and he also tweaked it a bit.
Might be the end of his consecutive games series. He might be pissed about that. Was already tuning out Nate last night in at least 2 timeouts. But I’m getting ahead of events here…
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Miller won't be happy if he isn't starting
too bad he thinks he should just be given the position rather then earn it
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
My wish is for Martell
to be the outside threat he is capable of… Because if it is between him and Rudy, he edges Rudy in the rebounding department.
Strategy: Score more than 110 tonight and keep the Twolves under 90.
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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We switch to Shakespearean speak for the rediculous and incredulous?
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Year5000
it'd be nice if blazers could win tonight!
by portlandgiirl91 on Nov 21, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions
.... um, yes. I agree. that would be nice.
(honestly, I’ve been a little depressed the last 24ish hours)
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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uhhh i got over it in 3rd quarter.
during the game i was prepared to lose unfortunately lol
by portlandgiirl91 on Nov 21, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
I was working and lost track of the game at half time.
when I came back, all was lost.
I guess I was the only one not to realize the ship was sinking … and on fire.
I better not need a liferaft tonight!
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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i think we'll do just fine tonight. W!
but let me tell you these kinda games don’t do my health any justice..if that even makes sense lol
by portlandgiirl91 on Nov 21, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
ummmm .... almost, but I get you.
If there were any real justice, I’d be out there tonight dunking with Greg. But that’s just the sort of fantasy justice fairytales and lovely dreams are made of.
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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It's kind of a no-win game
If you win it’s just Minnesota. If you lose it’s armageddon. So you spend the whole night hoping not to lose rather than celebrating a win. Fortunately the loss last night will help us not to take this one for granted as fans.
—Dave
Is it that teams look past "easy games" and get caught ... or is that that these supposedly bad teams have some really great nights?
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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Both
But I was talking more about the fans. I assume it’s another night on the job for the players.
—Dave
yes. i understand you were talking about the fan's reactions ...
… but as that guy who takes all losses a little too hard, I always struggle to figure it out. Why did the tree have to fall on MY car? How could I have prevented lightning striking MY cat (again)?
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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(sorry bow. I’ve since taken him off the roof.)
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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the Bonz just came in soaking wet
I had to towel him off. I always thinks that’s good luck
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
What people miss
is that sometimes crap just happens. Jack Ramsay’s teams lost some bad games. Rick Adelman’s did too from time to time (not too often between ‘89 and ’92 though). If it becomes a pattern it’s a definite issue. But a game or even a week does not a pattern make.
Losing tonight, though, would be really…really…bad. Time for some major soul-searching if you drop one to Minnesota at home after losing to the current version of the Warriors.
—Dave
Sorry
I wasn’t available last night. At least I got to fast forward through the bad parts of the second half.
it was the to be expected fan rant
the time to make changes now variety… seems like such a lack of patience for this team… I’m convinced the PTB are on the right path
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Yeah, with NJ lerking for a win. Watchout, or here comes the pattern.
"Gonna stand my ground ... and I won't back down" -- Tom Petty
"You have to know the past to understand the present." -- Dr. Carl Sagan
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that would be nice
see I like this portlandgiirl91 she makes alot of sense
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
lol yeah apparently not to a lot of others on this site haha
by portlandgiirl91 on Nov 21, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
I kind of like the idea
of going uptempo with Miller, Bayless and Rudy for a brief period. It will be interesting to see Dre’s reaction, while I agree a SF needed to be in the starting 5, Miller >>>Blake
"man, steve blake is clutch *dead*" - Ben Golliver on Twitter
by blazeraddict on Nov 21, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
We definetly need to play Bayless more.
Sitting him for entire games is crazy especially now. No one can dispute he gives us offense, every, single, time. Which is the biggest part of what we lack right now.
Agreed
It’s got to be frustrating for him – he’s earned more time, but Nate doesn’t seem to trust him at all
"man, steve blake is clutch *dead*" - Ben Golliver on Twitter
by blazeraddict on Nov 21, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
I too like that idea in teh 2nd unit.
but I still think you can do that AND start miller.
1) Bring Miller out with Oden mid-first. Put Blake and Przy in.
2) Rudy comes in for Martell mid to late 1st quarter.
3) late first, Bayless comes in for Roy.
4) between quarters, Miller comes back in for Blake, joined by LMA and Przy
5) Dante for LMA a few minutes into the 2nd.
6) Roy and Oden come back a couple minutes later.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Agreed
But this is Nate’s decision, so hopefully they can make the best of it
"man, steve blake is clutch *dead*" - Ben Golliver on Twitter
by blazeraddict on Nov 21, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
was it Nate's decision
or did Brandon tell him that guardig SFs wasn’t working out?
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Since they're saying that the focus has shifted back to Brandon,
I hope he is mentally ready for it and come back as the player we all know him to be.
Great
so we just wasted 9 games just to end up back at teh same lineup. Games we could have been using to build chemistry and continuity. And worse, we end up still starting the wrong PG. And to top it all off, we completely destroyiing Webster’s confidence in the process.
well done Coach, well done.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
The formula for starting Andre
is easy. You need another guy besides Roy who can hit a three. It’s no coincidence that since Blake’s jumper and Martell’s entire game have gone into the crapper the Blazers have been struggling. You still learned what you need from those games. Andre is now on the floor more with Rudy, which may be part of the plan.
—Dave
Webster can hit a 3, and was hitting 40% on them in the first 5 games (before he got benched).
Coach wanted a lineup change in game 6. Everyone in the world knew that change should have been Miller for Blake, not Miller for Webster. So, because he made the wrong move, we’ve now spent 9 games learning nothing that will help us long term, absolutely destroying the confidence of the only SF we have in uniform, and in the end we end up right back where we started. Andre needs to be on the court more with Greg and Brandon. So now we just killed that idea.
Unforgiveable.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
In the last 9 games
we went 7-2 with only 1 of those 2 losses being shocking or unexpected. That’s hardly a disaster, let alone unforgiveable.
—Dave
did you see the teams we played?
we eeked out a lot of too close wins over pretty bad teams. we haven’t looked “right” all year long offensively.
Yes, I think it’s unforgiveable to waste 9 games fooling around with a lineup only to completely undo it. that’s 9 games we could have and should have spent working on a lineup we can and will be playing with come April.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
The lineups in April
will include Nic Batum and Travis Outlaw in prominent positions. So that’s not possible right now.
—Dave
Dave, will you be in the thread all game long?
haven’t seen you do the open mic night in a time…
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
i have to say, I like it when you or Ben are hear.
I usually don’t get to get in on the free chats.
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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Ugh, the game is on 750 tonight
not nearly the sound quality of 95.5
"man, steve blake is clutch *dead*" - Ben Golliver on Twitter
so that “link” is on the AM dial. something classic about that. Go out to the car and listen. Bring some hot coffee and a doughnut. If you have kids, bring them. I used to love listening to games that way with my dad or grandfather. … memories ….
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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The problem with that idea (while a good one)
is I can’t watch the Duck game on mute while listening to the Blazers. Oh well, I’ll just grin and bear it
"man, steve blake is clutch *dead*" - Ben Golliver on Twitter
by blazeraddict on Nov 21, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
I'm predicting
A Brandon roy esque performance by Brandon Roy tonight, if that makes any sense. I think he has 26, 5 and 5.
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
Dont know why i am but i am looking at the stats from last night...
rudy had more steals then the whole team combined
he's the man.
Notes to Broyposse: "Don't let him pull that move, Don't let him pull that move! That's the move! Ohhhhhhh that's the move!"
Batum,
needs to comeback, Outlaw too.
Webster, needs to step up. enough said.
Notes to Broyposse: "Don't let him pull that move, Don't let him pull that move! That's the move! Ohhhhhhh that's the move!"
I could use a deal for Danny Granger and Derrick Rose. That's about all.
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No, since that would mean we would have won the lottery
KP would have made sure not two #1 picks come off the bench :)
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shots need to fall
guys need to hustle
bayless needs more PT
there’s alot that needs to happen
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Channing? oh, that’s center-shooting guard.
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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He leads the league in made threes with 38 (43%). Yes, that's not a typo.
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Memo to Bob Akamian
The stopwatch thing was funny the first couple times. It’s time to stop reporting how many seconds Rice took to answer the question.
it's lame
Ben was on at least once. It’s a bar stool discussion. If you can digest any more of what’s his name— uh… Dwight Jaynes.. the show’s for you.
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
I'm not sayin Ben made it lame either
they should do a Blazers Edge show instead
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Anyone catch when they talked about having a Two Towers lineup on there?
I think it was like 1 or 2 weeks ago..
I think it's to give Miller some rest with his banged up body, not a permanent demotion
And to give the second unit more scoring power. If only Rudy scores, we are too easy to stop.
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Looks like
Except square one without the options we had before because of injuries. Personally I would have liked to have seen a Miller-Rudy-Roy lineup if we were sticking with three guards for so long. But as I said above, I think maybe Miller and Rudy could get a chance to work together in the second unit. I’m pretty sure they want Rudy in with the reserves to offset Przybilla’s offense (and Howard’s). But basically I’m in favor of playing LaMarcus for 48 minutes and having the second unit run through him.
—Dave
Dante should get some run instead of Howard.
how can it hurt? we drafted him as a 4 year college player for a reason, and it’s not like he’s going to be handling the ball like a young PG would. Tell him to go out defend, rebound, and hustle for 8 minutes. I’d like to see what he can do.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
First half
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