Travis or Rashard Lewis?
Travis gets criticized for not being a good PF. While he's not your classic banger, let's look at how he compares to Rashard Lewis, another PF with a similar body morph and style. In fact, guess which player is which, based on basketball-reference.com comparison for last year.
This is organized by: stat, Player A, Player B. Is Player A or Player B Outlaw? The answer after the jump.
FGA/36: 13.7 13.6
FG%: .439 .453
3P%: .397 .377
FTA/36: 3.4 3.9
TRB/36: 5.7 5.3
PTS/36: 17.6 16.6
AST%: 12.5 6.3
TOV%; 11.6% 8.9%
USG%: 22.0 22.0
The answer? Player B is Travis. But I find the numbers surprisingly similar. Both Travis and Lewis take shots at the same rate, rebound at the same rate, get fouled at the same rate, score at the same rate, and are "used" by their teams at the same rate. Outlaw shoots a better overall %, with Lewis shooting better at 3s. Lewis gets more assists (not surprisingly, not one of Travis' strengths), but Lewis also turns the ball over more (surprisingly, as we think of Travis as a turnover prone player).The point of posing this as a question is to point out that from a stats perspective, Travis and Lewis are quite similar.
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can I choose neither?
for the Blazers… love em both as players, just not for this team
Those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it
by The Arkitect on Nov 2, 2009 1:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
nice comparisons
very interesting to think about……….Travis is not a bad guy to have off the bench, we wont find another player with his skill set that is willing to fill that role with minimal complaints.
by tevisthe4th on Nov 2, 2009 1:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Shard is significantly more efficient
Because he shots a lot more 3s. If Travis learned to consistently take the spot-up 3 instead of dribbling in to a more difficult contested 2 he might be close to the same level as Lewis offensively.
by trk on Nov 2, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t ever see variability or standard deviations mentioned with players. Predictability and consistency are so important in a team setting, and you know what you’ll get day in and day out with some players but not with others.
Just saying. I’d guess that Travis is a bit less reliable than Shard but I don’t really know. Travis seems prone to boosting his numbers by a big game but then laying an egg, keeping his averages respectable. Dunno if that’s actually true however, or if that stat is out there to compare players.
by shralpster on Nov 2, 2009 1:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Numbers are deceiving
A lot of players can put up numbers, but are they putting up wins? I wish it was possible to create a “was that a winning play or was that a winning decision” stat, but every player would have to be scrutinized on every play.
I get the paper, so I don't care!
by Name's Ash on Nov 2, 2009 1:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Can we compare contracts
That’s where the PTB win big time.
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by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Nov 2, 2009 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that's what Travis was thinking
when he tweeted about making “out of this world money” last summer?
“My stats are like ’Shard’s, so I should be getting paid like ’Shard!”
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
by two4larue on Nov 2, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This year
Travis looks great defensively. Haha he’s blocking shots like no other.

Go Blazers!
by Rip City Mike on Nov 2, 2009 2:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
When was this?
There’s Bonzi! (Love the photo).
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Nov 2, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha quick google search...
It might not be Travvy, but it sure looks like him!
And I’m assuming it is Yao’s rookie year since he looks very slightly built
Go Blazers!
by Rip City Mike on Nov 2, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Travis, but I would take Rashard Lewis any day of the week over him
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 2, 2009 3:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Overpaid at the max contract, underachieving, doesn’t work hard on defense, and shoots too many 3’s.
Go Blazers!
by Rip City Mike on Nov 2, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Marion
let’s take him instead. :)
Interesting about Travis+Rashard having similar stats last season though!
Enjoy the Ride
by DigitalDaggers on Nov 2, 2009 5:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the comparison.
Very interesting… Travis is a waaaaay better deal.
And since he is not a starter, the Blazers’ do not have to rely on him to as much as the magic have to rely on Lewis. Travis fits his role on our team very well… There is always room, on the roster of a good team, for a player like Travis.
by Rick_D on Nov 2, 2009 6:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Slow, shoots very erratically, barely can dunk, can’t rebound. Basically a fat man at 6’10 who should be playing PF at the SF position because he’s too lazy to work out.
Man, I’m so glad he’s not in Portland.
Go Blazers!
by Rip City Mike on Nov 2, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You could have added he doesn't play defense,
but LMA would have guarded SF’s like Melo or Durant.
He rebounds at almost exactly the same rate as our small forwards last year. Turk collected 5.2 boards per 36 minutes while Outlaw got 5.3 and Batum got 5.4 per 36 minutes, so nothing lost there. His shooting is erratic (41%) but he would have taken less shots here. (He was the 3rd leading scorer (16.8 ppg) at Orlando.)
But we wanted him as a point forward. He was just 0.5 assist per game (4.9 apg) behind the team assist leader, and played the most minutes per game (36.6) on a team that went to the NBA finals last year. It would have been interesting…
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 3, 2009 2:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You could have added he doesn't play defense,
but LMA would have guarded SF’s like Melo or Durant.
He rebounds at almost exactly the same rate as our small forwards last year. Turk collected 5.2 boards per 36 minutes while Outlaw got 5.3 and Batum got 5.4 per 36 minutes, so nothing lost there. His shooting is erratic (41%) but he would have taken less shots here. (He was the 3rd leading scorer (16.8 ppg) at Orlando.)
But we wanted him as a point forward. He was just 0.5 assist per game (4.9 apg) behind the team assist leader, and played the most minutes per game (36.6) on a team that went to the NBA finals last year. It would have been interesting…
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 3, 2009 2:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You could have added he doesn't play defense,
but LMA would have guarded SF’s like Melo or Durant.
He rebounds at almost exactly the same rate as our small forwards last year. Turk collected 5.2 boards per 36 minutes while Outlaw got 5.3 and Batum got 5.4 per 36 minutes, so nothing lost there. His shooting is erratic (41%) but he would have taken less shots here. (He was the 3rd leading scorer (16.8 ppg) at Orlando.)
But we wanted him as a point forward. He was just 0.5 assist per game (4.9 apg) behind the team assist leader, and played the most minutes per game (36.6) on a team that went to the NBA finals last year. It would have been interesting…
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry about the multiple posts I don't understand what caused that.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 3, 2009 2:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like it had something to do with the site interface changing as I posted,
The site has a new look now.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Same thing happened to me
I only got doubles though so you are especially lucky!!
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by MadBlaze on Nov 3, 2009 3:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I know I wouldn't want my team to pay $100 million to Rashard Lewis...
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
by Norsktroll on Nov 3, 2009 2:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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