Gameday Open Thread: Blazers vs. Bobcats--Post-Game
by Dave on Nov 14, 2009 6:15 PM PST
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Discuss tonight's events here while you wait for the official recap!
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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For those of us "watching" the game via
Yahoo’s box score. What happened at the end? I see that a bunch of T’s were dealt. Was there a fight?
hahahah
there was a huge fight
Raja elbows LMA head and he goes ballistic…Roy / Oden / Rudy holds him back
no fight, but some conflict
LMA got the short end of the stick, with the ’cats getting a shot at the jump ball instead of a flagrant or extra T on Bell.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 14, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
a little scuffle
lma and diaw got were tangled up after a rebound and then everyone jumped in to break it up. t’s on roy lma tyson chandler gerald wallace and diaw
looked like Raja was trying to patch things up after the game but LMA was walking away.
Raja is a Caribbean person, by the way: same island as Tim Duncan, St. Croix.
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Year5000
Not cool.
LMA, it is great that you get fiery in the game. But don’t make an ass of yourself afterwords.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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whatever
Diaw is DIRTY. Diaw and Bowen are two of the most unethical players in the game, Reggie Evans and Chris Paul are runners up.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Nov 14, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
well
Bowen is out, but the taint lingers
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Nov 14, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe he should've got mad at Diaw then.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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You ain't got no alibi!
"The best team in the county right now wears green and goes quack, quack." -Chris Dufresne, LA Times
formerly rockingharder
by Mr. Knox on Nov 14, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Start Rudy, play Blake off the bench
if the 3 guard lineup is the choice
I hate Comcast
Card carrying member of Team Bayless
I need to stop being so hard on Steve Blake. Even though I'd rather see him as a top 5 backup PG than an undersized starting SG, he's a Bazer, he works hard, he has earned respect.
by blazeraddict on Nov 14, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
Rudy shot those fts like he wasn't even paying attention.
Grab the ball, fire in while only half looking at the rim.
Nice work on the rebounding. Looks like we’ve found Travis’ backup.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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Great win for the team
Four wins on the road in 5 days is nothing to scoff at regardless of the other teams’ w/l records. They fought for it and have every right to feel proud.
Despite being the goat of last season’s playoffs, Travis is a big reason we got there and he fills a big roll. My heart goes out for him. One of my observations following the road trip is every game different guys are stepping up. We’re gonna need Rudy to find his shot. 2 for 4 from the arc is a good step. But he scares me stepping in front of those big fellas.
Totally agree.
You know these guys are exhausted.
by OmoriumVerum on Nov 14, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't say "great" win
a win is a win… but losing Travis is going to hurt. The PTB didn’t play well and were fortunate to play another team lacking significant talent. Rest up boys.
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
one step forward, two steps back.
Win, ugly win, lost Travis to injury for the season … Greg gets 4 blocks, but fouls out in 17 minutes.
Now a day off to figure out what to do.
what to do, what to do …
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Year5000
Control: Correction. Alpha hold is off. Trip select is emergency.
Rice : It looks good at Mach One.
Barrett: Uh, Roger.
Rice: Bobcats switch is on.
Barett: OK, Victor.
Rice: Landing rocket arm switch is on. Here comes the throttle. Circuit breaker’s in.
Barett: We have separation.
Rice: Roger. Inboard and outboards are on. We’re comin’ forward with the sidestick.
Barrett: All looks good.
Outlaw: Flightcom, I can’t hold it. She’s breaking up. She’s break . .
Kaboooooooooooooom.
Travis Outlaw. #25. A man noticably limping.
We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better. Stronger. Faster.
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
The $6 Million Outlaw
(what a bargin!)
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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by Y5k on Nov 14, 2009 8:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Quick can hope all he wants, but Travis needs to keep off it until it is totally healed, or it will never heal ...
remember our lessons with Marty and some guy named Bill Walton.
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
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by Y5k on Nov 14, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
oh, and Bayless rolls his ankle walking out of the tunnel.
"Quid, Me Anxius Sum?"
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/Year5000
Hey friends
What’s the story of the game?
Saw like 30 seconds of th end of the 4th.
Outlaw is hurt?
Is Bayless?
What the hell went on.
Oden 4 blocks in 15 minutes?
Outlaw is the story of the game
And that Portland swept 4 games in 5 nights, regardless of competition level.
Outlaw has Martell's injury
Bayless sprained his ankle in a fluke pregame injury. Not expected to be serious.
Oden was dominant when on the court.
I missed it myself.
Looks like the Blazers grind out a victory against the Larry Brown Bobcats. Four games in five nights. I’ll take it.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Ugly, ugly win.
Travis out for season (probably).
Oden awesome while he played, which wasn’t much.
LMA has huevos, bit of a scuffle…no punches.
Blazers hottest team in the league.
I am an oasis of Blazer fandom in a bleak desert of Laker fans.
by RenoBlazerFan on Nov 14, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
I thought they were lame calls
but understandable. Ref’s should be better than that (Oden was moving his feet and getting fouls called against him for other players running into him).
However, those calls have always gone against Odin, so he shouldn’t try to cut point guards off, let them go by, and block from behind.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 14, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
That Win Was Better Than A Kick To The Groin
but just barely
2nd place or last place; what’s the difference?
double woot
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
A win is a win is a win.
Losing Outlaw hurts, but injuries are a part of the game…
…and injuries to this team help clear up playing time for deserving bench guys as much as anything else. We’ll be fine.
Portland Trail Blazers, Future World Champions 2010-2021.
Now we'll get to see real quick how much Travis does to us
For better or worse.
Good luck Travis and heal completely. I hope this was not your last game as a Blazer.
I know a lot of people pooh-pooh the 3-guard line-up, but...
we are 6-0 when we’ve used it. Hard to argue with that.
Maybe it's more Andre Miller starting than anything else?
Because Blake has been terrible from the arc.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Nov 14, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
yea although the stats dont reflect it
the team has looked a lot sharper with miller calling the shots and getting people organised
Miller didn't have any special success getting people involved
he had to score tonight, and did. That’s the way the Bobcats played it, and I can’t argue with the results. It was the Roy and Miller show on offense, with smaller contributions from everyone else.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 14, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Take a look at the combined record of opponents.
With that said, still impressive because the Blazers are doing it on the road. Beating those teams decisively too.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
The wins are great no doubt
but look at the competition during the streak. The best team was SA on a back to back, and Parker got hurt in the 1st half.
I hate Comcast
Card carrying member of Team Bayless
I need to stop being so hard on Steve Blake. Even though I'd rather see him as a top 5 backup PG than an undersized starting SG, he's a Bazer, he works hard, he has earned respect.
by blazeraddict on Nov 14, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
hahaha and Chris Paul got injured
Man he should just have a No Portland clause in his contract because this is the second time that he’s been injured in the first half.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Nov 14, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
he got injured twice
near the end of the 3rd quarter, this season and last season, both in new orleans
They are still NBA teams, with NBA talent...
You’d expect the Lakers, Denver, and the Celtics to do the same (go 4-0) with these teams, and maybe no one else. That’s not bad company to be in. It’s an indicator of an elite-level team.
by OmoriumVerum on Nov 14, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
Elite might be pushing it, but upper-half at least.
It’s been good to see them win games they should win.
No way...
By the end of this season, this team will be considered amongst the elite. With Trout going down long-term and Nic out as well, Rudy, Martell, and Bayless will see significant increases in their PT. They will all continue to improve and this team will be very dangerous at the end of the year.
by OmoriumVerum on Nov 14, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
I don't disagree that the team may be elite by the end of the season
But this probably isn’t the stretch to confirm their elite-ness.
Upper half?
No way man.
You go on road winning streaks like this, that signals “elite.”
Upper half? No way this signals being an above .500 team.
I understand you want to be careful about getting too excited, but upper half is way more out there than elite.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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I'd go upper-third.
I actually reconsidered it right after I submitted. But no higher than that right now. Way too much of the season to go.
That's not meant to be negative about the Blazers, just to be clear.
Just don’t want to overreact to a run of games against teams that are clearly struggling to score.
As I’ve previously noted, 4-in-5 is still impressive, no matter the competition.
Fair enough.
That is where I’d go too. Same reasons.
I just thought going with only upper-half was maybe hyperbole or something.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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exactly
lets see what happens when we use this lineup against teams that arent headed for the lottery.
by DrexlerMcStyles on Nov 14, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
With injuries to Travis and Bayless there is no way the lineup remains as it is.
My team went to the playoffs in my first year.
Don't think Bayless' injure is too significant.
I’m hoping he’ll be available for Monday.
by OmoriumVerum on Nov 14, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
The effort defensively is still sub-par
by kobisportsguy on Nov 14, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the thing that bothers me about Roy isn't so much that he sucks on defense.
But that he doesn’t appear to even try.
It is really obvious on the open court where he just lets guys go by.
Rudy is the opposite of this. The guy may not be a great defender, but he gives his all on either end. Comes up with steals, offensive fouls and alters some shots.
Someone needs to call Roy out just like he called out Zach Randolph.
Or he can just be lazy now that he’s got his cash.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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It's not the money, because Brandon Roy was a lazy defender at the UW who relied heavily ...
upon Bobby Jones to cover him in that regard. For some reason, Roy’s never put out a concerted effort on defense throughout his basketball playing career.
Why?
I, nor anyone else except Roy himself, knows the answer.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
any one else terrified...
to face real competition?!?!
by Alaa Abdelnaby on Nov 14, 2009 6:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
You can only beat the teams you play.
by torsoheap on Nov 14, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
that will a be good! game! and major if we win!
by portlandgiirl91 on Nov 14, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
We are going to lose by 40 points on Monday
because the Blazers already feel that this trip is successful, and will not even compete. Hope I am wrong.
I am an oasis of Blazer fandom in a bleak desert of Laker fans.
by RenoBlazerFan on Nov 14, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Happened to the Nuggets.
Long road trips are difficult, especially 5 games in 7 nights. The Hawks game will be a bonus win, it’s probably one of the toughest games all year with injuries and fatigue considered.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Hope not...
I’ll be at that game. The Blazers know that ATL will be a true test. I’m sure they will be prepared. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were already focusing on them and that’s why they seemed unfocused for most of the game against the Bobcats.
by OmoriumVerum on Nov 14, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
A 40 point loss would be an extreme blowout. I do envision a loss around the 20 point mark, though.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
forgive my hyperbole.
I am an oasis of Blazer fandom in a bleak desert of Laker fans.
by RenoBlazerFan on Nov 14, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
im more concerned
with having enough healthy players to get through a game, this team can beat any other team if everyones healthy
The Blazers do not have a history of laying eggs against ATL
and I think it is because we have both size and athleticism, and that is a tough matchup for ATL. It’s not like ATL has an especially fast guard tandem that can blow by Blazer defenders and get the bigs in trouble…
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 14, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
If Portland is to give Atlanta trouble on Monday, it'll be by Greg Oden overpowering Al Hoford inside.
For once, Nate McMillan will need to ride Oden all the way toward victory. If Oden sits for long stretches against the Hawks, the Trail Blazers will be in a world of hurt.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
by AK1984 on Nov 14, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
our our guards dominate their guards
and our wings hold their own
and our bigs outplay their bigs
Portland is more than a one trick pony
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 14, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Cavs losing to the Deronless Jazz at home would be delicious.
Boozer subplot included.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Supposedly Malone would frequently threaten to leave and say stupid stuff like this too.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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I hope this makes people realize how much more of an impact Chris Paul has on his team compared ...
to Deron Williams. Sure, Williams is a nice player; however, he’s a system guy — for which he can thank Jerry Sloan — as well as a poor defender. In addition, Paul is statistically superior to Williams in any and every way imaginable.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Maybe they play to the level of the competition
that’s how I play golf…
2nd place or last place; what’s the difference?
Let's hope so
Dante and Juwan are gonna get some burn while Trout heals.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
martell will probably getting the playing time instead
by portlandgiirl91 on Nov 14, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Sometimes I got pissed at Outlaw, and everybody knows for what,
But Im worried that now we wont have that scoring threat, and with Nic out we dont have that wing defender. Im wondering if these injuries will wear the team out. I dont know, but I cant trust that Weby will step up. Looks like he is lost after loosing his starting job. I think Rudy should step up his game.
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
This would be a good time to put Martell back in the starting lineup.
"The best team in the county right now wears green and goes quack, quack." -Chris Dufresne, LA Times
formerly rockingharder
Nate waits till we loose 2 in the row.
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
hey man ive noticed from you a few times that you spell lose loose. Im not trying to be anal
or anything cause i dont care bout that stuff on a blog and I know I am not great in grammar and such but spellcheck probably wont catch that if your writing a school/business paper so this is kinda a fyi.
Sincerely,
David
by tevisthe4th on Nov 15, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Knowing Nate, I'll be amazed if he changes until we've lost AT LEAST two in a row with it.
"The best team in the county right now wears green and goes quack, quack." -Chris Dufresne, LA Times
formerly rockingharder
The three-guard lineup will remain for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, we'll all just ...
grin and bear it. Most everyone understands it creates a horrible mismatch for the Portland Trail Blazers on defense — while having Steve Blake at the 3, Brandon Roy at the 2, and Andre Miller at the 1 on offense is no better than if Rudy Fernandez was at the 3 with those group of guys — yet, for whatever reason, Nate McMillan just doesn’t care about that. Y’know, if McMillan and Roy want their security blanket in Blake out there, then so be it. When things begin to go haywire, the blame will be placed squarely on their shoulders.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
Cal kicks an FG. Leads Arizona 18-16, 5 min to play.
Boozer hits 2 FTs. Jazz lead in Cleveland, 2 min to play.
Well the trout haters and doubters finally will get their wish.
I must admit I have waffled between being a trout hater, lover, and doubter, sometimes all in the same month, week, or hell, even game.
We will finally see what this team minus him will look like. I gotta admit, I’m a little worried.
And, it's brought some bad karma. Bad luck.
"I won't back down." -- Tom Petty
"History is important. If you don't know history it is as if you were born yesterday. And, if you were born yesterday, anybody up there in a position of power can tell you anything, and you have no way of checking up on it." -- Howard Zinn
true
Ive never been a big fan. too inconsistent, but honestly its better than dante. We will see.
by ODEN on a stick on Nov 14, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
cat lover!
you killed the catfish! haha
by ODEN on a stick on Nov 14, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
totally false there Stick
Nobody feels worse for Travis’ injury then me…
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
Dont worry its not your faul or any other fans for waffeling.
Thats how Troutlaw plays that we dont know what to expect. But I started to accept his style, and be just mad, and not a hater.
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
Maybe Rudy makes the winning shot in ATL
and it lifts him to another level, and the team continues its run on to a serious winning streak. GO BLAZERS!!!!
"I won't back down." -- Tom Petty
"History is important. If you don't know history it is as if you were born yesterday. And, if you were born yesterday, anybody up there in a position of power can tell you anything, and you have no way of checking up on it." -- Howard Zinn
question about Oden
I haven’t been able to catch the last few games. Oden has been getting blocks, but also a lot of fouls. Does that seem to be a strategy by the opponents… take it to the hole, don’t worry about getting blocked, but try to draw fouls on Oden?
woot woot blazers win!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol i enjoyed the end the best tho!
this wizards game is close too!
by portlandgiirl91 on Nov 14, 2009 6:51 PM PST reply actions
grind of a game.
But it’s still a win. lets hope a day of rest and hopefully a little deeper look at the lower bench and all will be well.
Yep...
I have it and it’s very convenient. Can watch it anywhere. As well as replays.
by OmoriumVerum on Nov 14, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
Yes and yes, but
there are blackouts for games on “national” TV. You know, the TV that’s free…wait, what? Oh you mean, most of “national” TV games are on cable. Ah, got it.
I don’t think the league understands that some of us don’t care to get cable and feel that shelling out for LP BB should entitle us to all games.
The Atlanta game won't be a true indicator of where we are
Unless we win.
Because we got every excuse to lose right now… so a loss wouldn’t mean much.
w0rd
I think we got a shot… we are better than them when playing like we should.
But, long road trip, yada yada…
I am sure Nate and Friends will be stressing not to be pleased with the trip. We can win this.
word is the bird
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
Its going to be a tough game no doubt
Im predicting a loss, but we’ll see.
by ODEN on a stick on Nov 14, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
I'm starting to get the feeling.....
Greg Oden will never get rid of the foul bug…………
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
I think he will when he will be in the shape he was when we drafted him.
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
he was in the shape he was in that summer league
and got what 11 fouls? I didnt watch any but i heard about some of those games..
by collectiveshane on Nov 14, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
Unfair comparison
He had tonsillitis during summer league – not exactly known to enhance performance.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
Yeah but Bayless was also the MVP of last years summer league.
I would think if Oden would never got that injury, then by now he would dominate on defense.
And Oden, once again, is a rookie, so non-stop fast break basketball is like fast-forwarding a song while he's trying to learn the lyrics.
he'll learn eventually
overcoming some of those defensive mistakes can be unlearned. he’ll figure it out. I just wish the refs would recognize guys are often just throwing themselves into his body to get the call. That’s cheap.
Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.
by bow4meow on Nov 14, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed & rec'd
It’s like Oden is playing against a bunch of ambulance chasers out there and the refs are playing the gullible / sympathetic jurors.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
I second that
The thing is theres absolutely NO indication that he ever will. I dont mean to sound rude, but I think he lacks the intelligence..
by DrexlerMcStyles on Nov 14, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He doesn't seem unitelligent to me..
He makes good decisions with the ball. And to his defense, some of the calls he gets are indeed cheap.. But having him for 20 minutes a night just isn’t going to cut …They are going to need an effective Oden 30 minutes a game to get deep into the playoffs.. Dwight Howard will eat Oden alive I am afraid and I’m looking forward to the test Bynum will give him.. Granted, played Duncan well but Duncan is not 85% of what Duncan used to be.
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
Huh?
Greg Oden’s foul troubles are more a matter of circumstance — as he’s a young big who’s anchoring an inside that’s flanked by a porous perimeter defense, while referees are giving him somewhat of a tough time during his adjustment period — so there’s no need to question his intelligence.
Oden, without question, isn’t like Jerryd Bayless, who continues to make foolish hand-checking touch fouls on the perimeter each and every time he’s out there. If anybodyshows a lack of defensive BBIQ among second-year players on the Portland Trail Blazers, it’s Bayless.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
by AK1984 on Nov 14, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Greg needs to cut down/eliminate the silly fouls like the reach in the 1st quarter, but a number (if not most) of his fouls come from needing to help/protect the rim when a Blazer wing has been beaten off the dribble. Batum will help with this when he gets back, but defense is a team game, and right now Oden and Joel do the majority of the work and, unfortunately, suffer Nate’s hook, rather than the sieves in front of them on the perimeter.
I hate Comcast
Card carrying member of Team Bayless
I need to stop being so hard on Steve Blake. Even though I'd rather see him as a top 5 backup PG than an undersized starting SG, he's a Bazer, he works hard, he has earned respect.
by blazeraddict on Nov 14, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Disagree
He just needs a bit more time in the league and he’ll start getting the benefit of the doubt. Right now he’s just going through referee hazing.
On a more serious note, the fouls he was getting last year were more justifiable as he was making stupid rookie mistakes or he was just too slow in his reaction time (either because of his injury or because he was thinking too much instead of acting on instinct). This year, I’m noticing a greater number of what I’d call “ticky-tacky” fouls – Greg is overall playing much better / smarter and he’s got a great deal of his pre-microfracture speed and jumping height back (I’d say he’s at 90% of what he was at when he played at Ohio). Case in point, the game against Minnesota where he had 18 points / 11 rebounds / 1 steal / 1 block / 0 turnovers / 0 fouls.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
No, this isn't hazing....
Hazing would be Oden vs. Howard.. this isn’t some welcome to the league kid stuff… Don’t you think he was hazed enough last year? He got plenty of those ticky tack fouls to go 2 seasons over.. It is a legitimate cause for concern… And like I said, these hazing moments by the refs would be coming against the Howards, Gasols, Bynums, Wallaces, Garnetts of the world… Not Tyson Chandler.
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
Last year wasn't ticky-tacky
Last year was Oden was lousy out there. This year he’s on another level. I’d say at least 35% of the fouls I’ve seen Greg called on were questionable at best. In general I’m seeing a lot of fouls on Gregzilla that wouldn’t have been called last year (how many times do you remember Joel fouling out?). Not sure why, but I don’t think it’ll last too much longer. On the other hand, I’ve been wrong before and will surely be wrong again.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
thunder looking a lot better this season
NW could be a very tough division in the future, if indeed it already is
I dunno if this is supposed to be a dig at Jennings
But that guy is an absolute stud.
by samuelleejackson on Nov 14, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
With USC losing today, the Big East should get two BCS teams.
Dear Paul Allen:
Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.
Sincerely,
AK1984
As a side note
In the box score of that game, the 6’7" Dejuan Blair is indicated as the Spurs’ starting center.
For the record, he’s amassed 7 points, 1 assist, 1 block, 3 TOs and a whopping 1 rebound in 13 minutes played.
Just sayin’…
how's it going knickfan?
You think the Knicks will get it going? I expected them to be a ~30 win team this year. DIdn’t expect the magnitude of these early struggles. What’s the explanation?
Short answer
Al Harrington and Larry Hughes. Two of the game’s most notorious chucks on the same team sucking what little life there is out of the Knick “offense.” And from what mercifully little I’ve seen so far, it seems to be contagious. Chandler (a player who I like and once had high hopes for) has settled for hoisting up a bushelful of shots himself, mainly jumpers. If Zach were still on the team, he’d seem the very model of restraint in comparison.
Obviously the truth is much more complicated than that. Team has beaucoup issues right now. It’s still early and it’s possible they can turn things around. But I’m not hopeful – not so long as the roster is infested with players who should be out shilling for Chuck E. Cheese.
He took 34 shots
What’s gonna happen when Michael Redd returns? Between him and Jennings, that ball gonna be eligible for some serious freq
inadvertently posted while I was still typing
… that ball gonna be eligible for some serious frequnet flyer miles.
and in retyping it, I somehow managed to mispell "frequent"
Someone’s not having a very good night.
Send Redd off to Siberia
Or, the Mavs.
He’s bad for a team anywho, as a main player. Too big a contract for just scoring at increasingly less efficient rates.
i hate that kid,
but that is impresseive, its also impressive that he was able to get up 36 shots.
by Alaa Abdelnaby on Nov 14, 2009 8:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Another day at the office. Ugly physical game but we’ll take it.
Travis Outlaw injury sucks but that’s what our depth is for. Rudy looked solid tonight.
First in the NW. Let’s keep it this way.
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
not to be debbie downer,
but what are the w/l records of our opponents vs the nugs opponents?
by Alaa Abdelnaby on Nov 14, 2009 8:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Okie City hot on the trail. Figured they'd surprise this yr.
Might be their year for a long winning streak and/or big jump in overall wins. They have decent talent. I hope they are in the hunt. Rather see them than UT or DVR—or LA*L for that matter.
"I won't back down." -- Tom Petty
"History is important. If you don't know history it is as if you were born yesterday. And, if you were born yesterday, anybody up there in a position of power can tell you anything, and you have no way of checking up on it." -- Howard Zinn
Feeling sorry for you, Dave, if you're having to
watch it again to write your piece.
"I won't back down." -- Tom Petty
"History is important. If you don't know history it is as if you were born yesterday. And, if you were born yesterday, anybody up there in a position of power can tell you anything, and you have no way of checking up on it." -- Howard Zinn
blazers
I agree with the commenter that the Blazers are just a top 50% team right now, not elite.
They are clearly a long way from getting their rhythm going.
But there are some positives so far. Roy and Aldridge are getting back up to speed- they can’t evolve into better players until they get back to where they were, and they look like they are not very far from that point.
As everyone has commented, Oden looks great. Yes he still has foul problems in some games, but he has clearly improved his game in ways that will result in a lot less foul-plagued games for him. And he looks confident on offense. Don’t forget, one reason for low point scoring, low assists, etc in the Charlotte game is that Charlotte plays darn good defense. That Oden showed good offense against a strong defensive team that has quality bigs is a very positive sign.
Miller is more and more looking like he is going to be a key ingredient to whatever success the Blazers have this year. I shudder to think what their record would be right now if they didn’t have him.
Rudy is playing scrappy, he’s committed some turnovers in recent games but overall I’d say his performance is promising. Should they put him in the starting lineup in place of Blake? Inquiring minds want to know.
Martell has not really clicked much yet. I think they need to limit him to fairly small minutes until he gets more in the flow of things, then they could gradually try to give him a bigger role.
With Travis out they need to take a gamble and give Cunningham some minutes besides just garbage time, see what the guy can do.
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