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Chris Paul (Not a game recap)

So before I get started this isn't a recap. I know many people told me to start my own blog and I'll be doing that really soon. I'll post the link when I get started on it. Also I noticed that two of my other fan posts are still on the sidebar. I'm not meaning to clutter it all up. But I had a chat with a buddy of mine the other day and he said something that the Blazers should do that I completely disagree with. But I'd like to get some feedback on it.

So my friends said that the Blazers play a lot better when they're out on the break and looking to push the tempo. Therefore he said that Brandon Roy isn't good for that style. He just ruins it. Which I do agree with. Brandon isn't going to push the tempo. But he suggested trading Brandon Roy for Chris Paul. He said that would make the Blazers way more successful. Which it would make the Blazers more successful out on the break. But the point I have is that no running teams win the championship. Roy can slow a game down where if the team feels they need to push it they have Rudy and Andre. Andre's smarts are underrated I think. He has a great feel for what tempo the game needs to be played at.

Also, not saying the Blazers should trade Roy. But they could probably trade Roy for any player they wanted except for Kobe, Wade, LeBron, and Howard. Not considering contracts of course. But this was an interesting opinion.

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by TheTinfoil on Nov 13, 2009 8:38 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

we'll give them Miller and Roy for Paul

Paul/Blake/Bayless
Rudy
Webster/Batum (when healthy)
Aldridge/Outlaw
Oden/Przy

That would be a dangerous lineup for Paul to lead. Tons of shooters and big men to throw lobs to.

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by Roybot on Nov 11, 2009 1:41 AM PST

by Magnum on Nov 13, 2009 8:41 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah it would be dangerous...

But think about this. How many championships did the Kings win when they were an up and down team? What about the Warriors or the Suns? None. Run & gun teams don’t succeed in the playoffs. With Paul in the lineup the Blazers would win a lot of regular season games. But come playoff time they may win a series max.

You need a balance of good half court offense and being able to succeed out in the open floor on the fast break. The Blazers have both. They can push the ball with Miller and Rudy. They can slow it up with Roy. All the players on the Trial Blazers are effective in the open floor and in the half court game. Roy will get better in the open floor as the season progresses. I would think he has to.

by Aaron Sass on Nov 13, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The hornets have been a half court team

Since paul arrived. That lineup would win plenty and considering how many half court players are in that lineup, its hard to believe they would be run and gun. JBay would be a 2, though.

by Sound_Automatic on Nov 13, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but if the Blazers were to git rid of Roy in exchange for CP3 then it would be for the idea of making the Blazers a run & gun team. If they wanted to be a half court team, they’d keep Roy.

by Aaron Sass on Nov 13, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

theres a happy medium

just bc we increase our pace doesnt make us a dantoni styled team. we can fast break and be in the middle of the league in terms of pace rather than dead last.

Aaron Sass, nominated for the Bedger of the Year award.

by Philthyanimal on Nov 14, 2009 2:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Aaron!

I don’t know that New Orleans would be saving money in that exchange, which would be their primary motivation for any CP3 deal. But it would be interesting to envision a Paul-Rudy backcourt as opposed to a Roy-RPG (random point guard) backcourt.

—Dave

by Dave on Nov 13, 2009 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

......................... or whatever your name is.

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by timbo on Nov 14, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

This almost seems looking into but...

Would this really be more effective then our current line-up? Looking at it from CP3’s view its almost a dream come true. a support class of Rudy, Martell, LMA and GO. But I also think Miller is underrated so far, mostly because he hasnt jelled with the team just yet. But if and when CP3 puts the pressure on for a trade, this is a very nice fit for him if he wants a ring or several.

I still dont see a Roy-CP3 trade, but if he puts the pressure on, it could be possible for a bench swap. I can imagine the rolled eyes, but I’m not talking about blake/outlaw. It would probably be something like… miller/rudy/outlaw/batum for cp3 + bad contract or two. Miller has proved he can make a bad team look decent which would look great for the front office that traded CP3. Rudy and Outlaw will be instant offense, and Batum will be the defense glue guy.

Realistically, this could be one of the very few deals where they could get decent value returned. Not likely many teams will be willing to trade superstars away.

Heres our line-up if we get no bench in return
Chris Paul/ Steve Blake
Brandon Roy/ Jerryd Bayless (temp)
Martell Webster/ Dante Cunningham/ Victor Claver (still stacked)
LaMarcus Aldridge/ Dante Cunningham/ Jeff Pendergraph
Greg Oden/ Joel Pryzbilla

Even considering the massive hit to our bench, thats still a dangerous line-up. I suspect we’d get waved away straight off, but as they look around the league and CP3 getting louder, they’d come running back, and our offer wouldn’t need to be nearly as lucrative. And shoot its for a point guard, (point guard fetish) so who knows.

Portland could coast along with their superior talent and stay right with us. Now that Portland woke up, the hammer cometh down.

by Batumshakalaka on Nov 13, 2009 9:39 PM PST reply actions  

Damn man I never thought of that.

I would never be in favor of trading away Brandon Roy. He’s a top 5 or 6 player in the league. But so is CP3. But look at it like this. If the Blazers were able to do that deal you were talking about where they dump their bench. If they could find a way to keep either Blake or Miller then they would be extremely dangerous. If CP3 had Miller as a backup or Blake then they would have a good backup point guard with the best point guard in the NBA. Also someone you’re not considering in a trade could be Patty Mills. I think New Orleans would jump at a trade that involved Mills, Rudy, and Outlaw. Also if the Blazers could keep Batum that would be huge too. But again this probably won’t happen. I wish it would though. Just look at what CP3 did for Tyson Chandler who has no offensive game. Imagine what he could do for Greg Oden.

by Aaron Sass on Nov 13, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I've considered that swap before

As already mentioned, its hard to see whats in it for the hornets. Roy is on the edge of a top 10 player, imho, but chris paul is a top 3 or 4 guy. I used to think that you could plug just about anyone with Chris Paul and make it work (especially after Tyson Chandler resurrected his career), but the lack of chemistry this year may bring that into question. As much as I love Roy, the Blazers would have a more enjoyable brand of basketball with that trade, and could contend.

by Sound_Automatic on Nov 13, 2009 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

The Blazers can already contend with the team as is.

CP3 would make the Blazers more exciting to watch. But the teams that win championships aren’t always the funnest to watch. I never want to see Brandon leave or get traded out of Portland. I don’t care who they brought in. Brandon is the heart and soul of this team. CP3 would be a good fit. But the Blazers, if they wanted to could probably get CP3 without getting rid of Roy since New Orleans will probably be looking to make some cap room at some point this year because they won’t be that good.

by Aaron Sass on Nov 13, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

if the blazers could get cp3 without putting in roy they'd be crazy not to do it.

you can’t trade a bunch of bench players and non all star players for a mvp level candidate. it just isnt going to happen

Aaron Sass, nominated for the Bedger of the Year award.

by Philthyanimal on Nov 14, 2009 2:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Brandon is the heart and soul of this team. I don't know how long you've followed the Blazers,

but people who have for several years know what I mean when I say when Brandon was emerging, it was the first time ( in years ) Blazer fans actually had light at the end of the tunnel, after the horrible Nash / Patterson era. The jailblazer label still applied to this team, and Brandon taking the team over represented a changing of the guard. He helped this team ( and this city, quite honestly ) in more ways than most players in the NBA will never be able to. He has helped a lot to put this team and city back on the NBA map, out of the depths of being a punchline, and I think he deserves to try and finish what he started. The Trailblazers ( and this city ) owe Brandon Roy a parade, and I for one would rather see him in our parade down Broadway than CP3, as much as I love him.

Oh yeah, Brandon also happens to be an ice cold assassin of a basketball player, one who I think is more than capable of taking a team to a championship, especially with Lamarcus and Greg at his side.

by dario argento on Nov 14, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

New Orleans wouldn't make a Trade with us unless it involved ROy

Also I would consider the trade CP3 has alot of fire has shoots to spread big men to lob and help do the dirty work.

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Nov 13, 2009 10:24 PM PST reply actions  

I wouldnt be quite so sure about that

Who else would they trade for? I dont see a team trading away its superstar unless he’s aging, and I dont see them taking say… Duncan for instance. This is their only hope for a trade.

I very much think CP3 is going to be asking for a trade and soon, hes already showing it. What do you think Roy would say if they fired Nate without even mentioning it to him? Oh yea and it wasnt long ago they traded away CP3’s good friend Chandler.

Portland could coast along with their superior talent and stay right with us. Now that Portland woke up, the hammer cometh down.

by Batumshakalaka on Nov 13, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

As much as I like Chris Paul

I wouldn’t deal Roy for him. It seems a tad far-fetched to think that deal would suddenly turn the PTB into championship contenders. Roy is an amazing player in his own right, and really been the key ingredient in Portland’s success. What does it say about the franchise if it’s willing to make such a deal? I think it suggests loyalty means nothing, winning is everything and thanks but no thanks. That’s not what Portland Trail Blazer basketball is about or ever has been (minus that regrettable little pre-Roy era.) The trail is being blazed just fine the way it is.

Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.

by bow4meow on Nov 13, 2009 10:43 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

I just thought it was an interesting thought about exchanging Roy for Paul. I wouldn’t be in favor of it. Even if the Blazers did it and had success, in the back of my mind I wouldn’t like it. I would be happy on the outside but I’d want Brandon to be part of the success. Also it would be hard for me to imagine Brandon in any other uniform besides a Blazer uniform. Can you imagine him in a Hornets jersey? Good God.

by Aaron Sass on Nov 13, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec for roy in hornets jersey

This organization has far too much respect for its players to dump Roy like that. Enough said.

Portland could coast along with their superior talent and stay right with us. Now that Portland woke up, the hammer cometh down.

by Batumshakalaka on Nov 13, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

trades like that

belong in video games and fantasy basketball leagues ONLY

Dogs have Owners, Cats have Staff.

by bow4meow on Nov 13, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

No

Roy not only fits the culture, to a large degree he is the culture. Chris Paul is a better player than Roy, IMO, but I still wouldn’t trade them straight up because Roy means more than skill on the court for the Blazers. He’s a leader, straight up, and the person who bridges the gap between the players and Nate. He’s also a great guy, and just committed to Portland for the long haul. We really would be sending a message by trading Roy – our players are simply chess pieces, not real human beings.

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by Clevelander among roses on Nov 13, 2009 11:40 PM PST reply actions  

On paper and in stats it makes absolute sense.

We could run Rudy as a starter

I mean, Paul, Rudy, Batum, LMA, Oden… that would be balanced and wicked.

But like so many have said, we wouldn’t be us. The culture and heart of this team would be lost. Plus, do we want someone so injury prone like Paul?

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Nov 13, 2009 11:51 PM PST reply actions  

Well, first it probably isn't possible

This year, Roy’s contract is “poison-pill”, which makes him virtually untradeable, and CP3 is base year compensation. Under the salary cap rules, I don’t think there is any way this could happen. Certainly not without adding in a whole bunch of other players.

But if it were possible….

I don’t agree with your at least implied analysis that we wouldn’t be an effective half court team. I think a lineup of Oden, LMA, Martell or Nic, Rudy, and CP3 would be able to run effectively but could also play a good grind-it-out game in the half court if need be.

I also don’t agree with the idea that a running team can’t win it all. L.A. runs, and they won it. Lots of running teams have won a championship. It is not that a running team can’t win, it is that a team that only knows how to run, and isn’t a good defensive and half court team as well, can’t win a championship.

So, all that said, if a Roy-CP3 trade could happen, it might make us a better basketball team. Which backcourt would be better? Miller or Blake and Roy? Or CP3 and Rudy? At the end of last season, I’d have said the latter, but Rudy doesn’t really seem to have caught fire this year. But even so, I think CP3 would make Oden and LMA better in ways that even Miller won’t — and Miller only has a couple of years left, while Paul has his whole career in front of him.

So from a purely basketball perspective, Roy for CP3 probably would be a winner. But I doubt N.O. would do it. It doesn’t help them with luxury tax, and hurts their marketing.

And I’m not sure Portland would do it. A lot of fans would be upset. There are intangibles involved.

But it’s fun to discuss.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 14, 2009 12:03 AM PST reply actions  

someone is going to have to explain that poison pill...

but I couldn’t endorse throwing Brandon under the bus.

I am not his greatest supporter (i’ve only 4 posters of him and 5 of greg but you know….)

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Nov 14, 2009 3:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not an expert

But I think it means that since we’ve signed Brandon to an extension that starts next year, if we trade him this year, the following has to apply under cap rules:
1. His extension salary (max, $13-14 million) is included in the salary for the team getting Brandon, for matching salary purposes in the trade.
2. His current salary ($3.9 million) is all the salary that we can take back for him.

So in other words, since N.O. is over the cap, if they get Brandon, they have to shed $14 million in salaries. Since we aren’t significantly under the cap, we can only take back $3 million in salary.

CP3 is Base Year Compensation because he is in the first year of a new contract with a big raise. That means:
1. If N.O. trades him, they can only treat it as trading away half of his salary ($6.8 million).
2. The team that receives him has to treat it as trading away his entire salary ($13.5 million).

So, if Portland trades Brandon for CP3 this year, it gets really interesting. They trade away $3.9 million (Brandon’s current salary) and take back $13.5 million (CP3’s current salary). That means they are $10 million over the salary cap, so they have to send out $10 million more, or actually because of the 125% rule, they have to send N.O. an additional $7 million, perhaps.

But N.O. is stuck, too. They trade away $6.8 million (half of CP3’s salary) and get back $14 million (Brandon’s salary next year). So the trade doesn’t work for them, either. They would have to send out an additional $4-5 million.

But of course, if either team sends additional salary, that just makes the other team’s situation worse.

Next summer, it might be managed. Brandon will be BYC, but CP3 will just have normal status. That would mean N.O. would be in balance, but Portland would be about $7 million out of balance. Add in Peja’s big contract as a salary dump on the N.O. side and Miller, Martell and one other on this side and you are starting to get close, under the 125% rule.

In other words, I think this could happen next summer, but it’s pretty much impossible right now.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 14, 2009 5:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Duh

I now see Norsk covered all this down below and I wasted my time. And he probably knows what he’s talking about more than me, anyway.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 14, 2009 5:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It's interesting to see it with actual numbers. Kind of a worst case scenario with 2 such players involved.

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Nov 14, 2009 5:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I suppose 2 poison pills would be even worse

But yeah, it just can’t be done. Perhaps if you traded the entire roster, the 125% thing would even it out. But you can’t even do that because LMA is poison pill, too. And we can’t trade Darius, he just eats cap space.

I think the only way it could happen is if OKC got involved with their cap space to take some salary on. And I can’t imagine they would want to facilitate this in any way, unless we were giving them Joel or something.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 14, 2009 5:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha

And now I see you mentioned OKC down below.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 14, 2009 5:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't sweat it, given after you take over everything I supose this will be the way of it, correct? :)

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Nov 14, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I think LeBron should ask for Teams to Retire Brandon's Jersey

Screw Jordan, the Natural is the type of player that should be honored.

Someone who pulls his teammates up, not one who pushes opposition down!

by Anim8rguy on Nov 14, 2009 12:05 AM PST reply actions  

its an interesting idea

however im not sold on having a superstar point guard that has the ball in his hands so much, im kinda liking this blazers motion offense with lots of crisp passing and roy picking his spots to score

by Yawnie on Nov 14, 2009 12:21 AM PST reply actions  

REC - I like the discussion

Thanks for posting. I’ve honestly never considered the Roy for Paul trade angle. As much as I truly love having Brandon Roy on my favorite team, Chris Paul is a significantly better player. In many ways, they are different (position, size, scoring methods, defense, etc.), but they are also the same in more ways than some people would think. Both operate best with the ball in their hands (which means they wouldn’t co-exist as well as one might think), and excel in the clutch. They are also both gifted leaders.

I agree with the comment above that Roy is a Top 10 player while Paul is a Top 3 or 4. The chasm of value, even between players in that top 10 is much larger than one might think, so I just don’t see NO doing it unless they were convinced Paul was on his way out, which is probably a year from being a real motivator. By then, the Blazers will be firmly in their championship window, and it’d be shocking if they were willing to take a risk in doing a “heart of team” transplant at that point.

I think it would be reasons like that keeping the Blazers from doing this trade more than “running teams don’t win.” Chris Paul on a good team can win, and win big. He’s not a system PG. He can run or pick you apart in the half court.

Thanks for getting me thinking!

Bring back the Uncle Cliffy!

by hawkblogger on Nov 14, 2009 3:51 AM PST reply actions  

Brandon has what is called a Poison Pill Provision after signing his contract extension for 2010, making it nearly impossible to trade him

Salary cap guru Larry Coon explains:

If a team trades an extended rookie between the date his extension is signed and the date it takes effect, his “trade value” for the receiving team is the average of the salaries in the last year of the scale contract and each year of the extension. This is called the poison pill provision. The sending team uses the player’s actual salary when calculating their outgoing salary. They use the current-year maximum salary in place of the (unknown) maximum salary for a future season, if necessary.

It is designed to make trading a player who just got extended very hard to not screw around with players coming off their rookie contracts and signing their next deal, so it fulfills its purpose and the name is fitting. Other teams would definitely have to be involved to give everyone a deal that makes sense. Try it out with the ESPN or RealGM trade machines.

I am on record stating that (the owner’s family of) New Orleans will rather sell the team or move it to a city where it can be more profitable (it was profitable last season) before trading Chris Paul. I stand to that. To give people a perspective: The fans of about every team lust after Chris Paul. Even teams that have great young point guards. Bulls fans discussed giving up Derrick Rose in a deal in the last days. Brandon Roy would undoubtedly be an interesting competitive offer, but it still would be unlikely to happen. Paul is more well-known for national/international marketing purposes, arguably the best point guard currently in the game, and at least on Roy’s level of importance for his team. We had our chance to draft him (or Deron Williams), and traded down largely because people in the organization thought Sebastian Telfair was the golden ticket at point guard. D’oh! That was it. That chance won’t come back until much much later in Paul’s career. If ever.

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Nov 14, 2009 4:05 AM PST reply actions  

Furthermore, Paul is in the first year of his already started new contract in what is called Base Year Compensation, making matters even more difficult. See here for an explanation. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzu4jr9

There sure could be a trade constructed in theory (paging Tom Penn, I might try to just because), but if it makes sense to all involve parties is very questionable.

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Nov 14, 2009 4:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Here is a deal that might work in theory (it currently doesn’t in practice before an involved team would renounce some rights). And it’s not pretty:

New Orleans out: Chris Paul
New Orleans in: Brandon Roy, Thabo Sefolosha, first round draft pick from Portland

Portland out: Brandon Roy, Joel Przybilla
Portland in: Chris Paul, rights to e.g. Yotam Halperin (no money value, just has to be something)

OKC out: Thabo Sefolosha (alternatively Kyle Weaver, though Thabo would be nicer for Hornets), rights to Yotam Halperin
OKC in: Joel Prybilla (the big man they need), Peja Stojakovich’s bad deal (alternatively Mo Peterson’s deal, but that’s not as attractive to Nola since it’s only half the money), $3 million cash from Portland, first round draft pick from Portland

As far as I can see this deal currently works for New Orleans and Portland with PPP and BYC, but for Oklahoma only if they would waive some old free agent rights they hold that currently block their cap space (which they would then have instantly). Any 2 out of Danny Fortson $9,895,485 cap hold; Malik Rose $11,471,250; Robert Swift $7,158,262. Then it should work. Would they do it instead of saving the money they would have to give Peja instead of going after a young FA? Doubtful even though they surely could use Joel.

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Nov 14, 2009 5:33 AM PST up reply actions  

In the variant with Mo Pete OKC would only have to waive Malik Rose (when sending out Weaver, just works by about $2000) or Fortson (works by about $800k) for Thabo who also has PPP. But it doesn’t really matter since all those rights are about worthless and OKC will need the cap space at some point.

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Nov 14, 2009 5:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Going all Timbo, of course you would have to add Peja or Mo Pete to “New Orleans Out”, and the draft picks and cash to “Portland Out”. Posted too early.

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Nov 14, 2009 5:45 AM PST up reply actions  

So we give up

Brandon and Joel and two first rounders and cash to get CP3.

And N.O. gives up CP3 and Peja and gets Brandon, Thabo, and a first rounder.

And OKC gives up Thabo and gets Joel, Peja, cash, and a first rounder.

N.O. would do that, if CP3 wants out. To get Brandon AND dump Peja’s contract would be pretty good value. The first rounder will be late first round, but it is worth something.

OKC might well do that. Peja’s contract is pretty bad, but Joel would be a huge plus for them, and what else will they get with that cap space? Which free agent wants to go there? The problem is Joel might opt out next summer, and then they are back to square one, but still have Peja’s contract on the books.

Portland wouldn’t do that. Brandon for CP3? Yes, possibly. Brandon and Joel? That’s getting pretty hard to swallow. Throw in first rounders and cash, and I don’t think so.

I think KP would think about it, but I can’t see him pulling the trigger. You need at least three bigs, ideally four, and we would be left with only two.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 14, 2009 6:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I think that Thabo is a key player for OKC. He’s their wing stopper. I’m not sure they trade perimeter defense for interior defense, while also taking on Peja’s corpse

by 50backflips on Nov 14, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Chris Paul is injury prone

I’ve never seen a game where he didn’t leave the court hobbled

by 50backflips on Nov 14, 2009 7:51 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Paul's a fantastic player--inch for inch, one of the all-time greats

But I’m not convinced he’s a better fit for the Blazers than Brandon Roy. With Roy, the total package—including his still-developing game, leadership, temperment, and NW roots (you don’t worry about him being lured to LA or NY someday) make him the cornerstone of this franchise.

Having said all that, ONE impediment to such a deal might now be removed: Paul’s loyalty to the Hornets and the city of New Orleans. At least at this moment in time, I’d guess Paul would welcome a trade practically anywhere. That’s one very disgruntled ball player.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 14, 2009 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

Not that I would endorse this,

but just for discussions sake, how about Oden and Miller for CP3 and Okafor?

by crakarjack on Nov 14, 2009 11:31 AM PST reply actions  

I think it’s disrespectful to even think of trading Brandon Roy.

by portlandgiirl91 on Nov 14, 2009 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

Chris Paul is a better player than Brandon Roy.

However, neither team would even so much as consider trading its star.

by jksnake99 on Nov 14, 2009 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

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Blazers Broadcasters Mike Barrett and Mike Rice re-enacted NBA referee Scott Foster's controversial goaltending call on Portland Trail Blazers forward LaMarcus Aldridge, who was defending Oklahoma City Thunder All-Star forward Kevin Durant, during this week's edition of Blazers Courtside. Remarkably, no one was injured during the taping of this segment.

Original video of the play here. 
Quotes from the players and coaches here. 
The NBA admitting it got the call wrong here. 
Dave's  extended thoughts here. 
BlazersMakr's FanShot: Major Vegas action on OKC prior to tip here. 
Audio of Chad Doing of 750 AM The Game going HAM on Foster here.

OK, that should just about wrap up the goaltending discussion.

Courtside video via Blazers Broadcasting cameraman John Curry.

-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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