Game 9 Recap: Blazers 107, Timberwolves 84
Nice game! What else is there to say?
The Timberwolves came out with energy as expected. They gave everybody a preview of what better teams are going to try to do to the three-guard lineup, posting Ryan Gomes against Brandon Roy and running their offense through him. They also ran hard, rebounded hard, and shared the ball. But one of the blessings about playing young teams, as the Blazers have taught us in reverse over the years, is that they have trouble sustaining their otherwise-solid game plans. A little lineup changing, a little pressure, a little more rebounding, a little better care by the Blazers on offense and the ‘Wolves were back to their familiar selves. After falling behind 23-18 in the first quarter the Blazers pasted 32 on Minnesota in the second and 35 in the third. You knew they wouldn't be able to keep up with that kind of scoring but they overachieved in the not-keeping-up department, scoring only 19 in each stanza. By then it was a blowout and the fourth didn't matter, even for pride.
Much of the credit for the steamrolling goes to Greg Oden who is slowly coming to the realization that nobody without a huge, athletic, active center can stop him. He looked like the high schooler playing with 6th graders out there on the boards. He also dunked multiple times again, sometimes off of alley-oops and sometimes after great spins from well-established positions. The major caveat is that Minnesota doesn't have a strong defensive middle, but it wasn't too long ago that Greg looked tentative against any kind of opposition. Oden smashed his way to a double-double in the first half which made the ‘Wolves pay extra attention to him which opened up the offense for Portland's shooters. With the synergy going and the whole offense flowing Minny was grass and the Blazers were mowing. We saw great passing, good shooting, energetic defense, and a loose, relaxed team cruising to a win.
Portland shot over 55% for the game. At first they couldn't buy a three-pointer with a coupon and a platinum card but once Minnesota started chasing their own tails on defense the long shots came free and easy, leaving the Blazers at 40% for the game. The refs called almost no fouls so neither team prospered from the line. Portland only got 6 offensive rebounds but they held Minnesota to 3, further compounding their scoring difficulty. The Blazers also denied the ‘Wolves any inside looks. Much of the credit there goes to Joel Przybilla who swatted away shots like they were paper wads coming at a trash can. Portland fielded too much talent and depth at every position and they were better able to utilize it. And that was that.
No Blazer played more than 27 minutes tonight which is nice for a road trip game.
Individual Notes
All hail Greg Oden. 18 points, 11 rebounds, and a lot of in-your-face play was what most Blazer fans had in mind when he was drafted. We're seeing the beginnings of him fulfilling that promise. For the first time ever (probably) he had 0 fouls and 0 turnovers, though part of that came from playing Zach Randolph-like defense on Al Jefferson. Good though! He needs to realize that he can't stop every shot, especially from a smaller and offensively potent player. Get your hands up, make him shoot it over you, but let him shoot every once in a while. They score a little but you stay in the game a lot. And when you stay in the game...smashy smashy!
Brandon Roy scored 14 on 7-11 shooting. He had 5 assists as well. It wasn't Brandon's best defensive effort early or late. But early he was outsized and late the game was all but decided. He kept his friends and neighbors in the flow of the game offensively, only taking over at the outset of the third period to make sure the Blazers got off on the right foot. At some point his teammates are going to have to keep Brandon involved as much as he tries to keep them involved. It's all well and good to have balanced scoring but that's not likely to do against the great teams. I hope somebody is reminding him that it's OK for him to take a bunch of shots.
LaMarcus Aldridge was fairly quiet until a back-breaking stretch at the end of the third when he pretty much destroyed the ‘Wolves all by himself. He did the things you want though: shot smart, ran the floor, put in effort. 5-9 shooting, 4 rebounds, 2 assists.
Andre Miller dished ten dimes against the (lack of) defense and added 9 points on 4-7 shooting. His jumper is still uglier than the love child of Ernest Borgnine and Ethyl Merman, but so be it. The offense has been working better since he's helmed it.
Steve Blake had an off night despite a couple of beautiful assists. He couldn't hit a three, shot 2-7, and finished with 5 points. It didn't matter too much.
As mentioned above, tonight the part of the angry old man with the off-limits lawn was played by Joel Przybilla while the ‘Wolves played the kids with the errant Frisbee. All he was missing was a cane to shake as he yelled, "Get outta here you no-good kids!" 4 blocks, 11 rebounds, just go away and leave him alone.
Travis Outlaw went up and down offensively and finished with 9 points but he was part of the crew that ended the size advantage that Minnesota was trying to exploit early. Decent defense for Trav.
Apart from a couple steals Martell Webster struggled early but came on strong late to amass 16 points.
Perhaps the ‘Wolves will get credit for waking up Rudy Fernandez. The first half saw him hesitant on offense and over-pursuing on defense. But then he started hitting some shots and he fell into the Rudy Groove. He ended up 5-7 for 15 points. He had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals, and 2 personal fouls but he missed the factorial line by committing 4 turnovers instead of 1. Mathematicians everywhere cringed.
Jerryd Bayless played 12 solid minutes, ran, penetrated, recorded a couple assists, scored 7 on 3-6 shooting, and remained the only Blazer guard to consistently stay in front of his man on defense.
Final Thoughts and Links
Play time is over. The tough part of this trip commences Friday in New Orleans. I don't think we'll see the same Blazer team. But that's not the goal, really. We want to see a more cohesive Blazer team than we saw last week. In that way these last three games have been valuable (hopefully) regardless of the quality of opponent.
Check out the reaction at CanisHoopus.
You can see your Jersey Contest scores for the month and for the night right here.
Enter the form for Friday's game over here.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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great game
I especially liked what I saw from oden and rudy. Can’t wait for Friday!
by NEPBlazer4life on Nov 11, 2009 8:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Seriously?
" With the synergy going and the whole offense flowing Minny was grass and the Blazers were mowing."
Thanks for the great recaps Dave! I am always entertained and informed.
They earned it: to-ing-and-fro-ing, alley-oop throwing, reaping and sowing, 4th-quarter glowing.
by climbthegoldenladder on Nov 11, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Sure
Greg’s our center, ‘Wolves’ tormenter, sign on the rim that says “Do Not Enter”.
—Dave
by Dave on Nov 11, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions 13 recs
Super rec!!! +92
googleplex
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
by 92wastheyear on Nov 11, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Score 1 for the Poet !
I routered out a “Do Not Enter” sign in woodshop years
ago. I think it should hang above GO’s poster these days !
How appropriate !
It's GO time !
Here's the most cognizant line you wrote:
"Portland fielded too much talent and depth at every position and they were better able to utilize it. "
I’m waiting for the day that all Blazer fans recognize just how lucky we are to have a team with this much talent, rather than bemoan the fact that trouble is certainly in the cards due to minutes crunch and constantly remind us how critical it is that Portland “consolidate” talent.
I look at the box score and see no one player with even 30 minutes, but nine guys with between 22 and 27 minutes and I am imagining a team that is going to stay fresh no matter how many back to backs they play or long road trips they take. Come March & April, who do you think is going to have the most gas in the tank? Perhaps a young team that goes 10+ deep and can match up with anybody?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Nov 12, 2009 7:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as the players continue to buy in
I’m with you 100% on this idea. Rec.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 12, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
I agree
And if Nate really buys into it, the players will. Rudy might want 32 mpg, but if he sees that even Brandon is only playing 28, he won’t complain about 25.
And once we really start to click, we should be able to keep starter minutes down, even if it costs a few wins.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
I thought it was kind of funny
I’d say you’re batting about .950 on the analogy’s so for this year. You got skillz…
RUDY > MJ
I enjoyed the comcast broadcast
and think they did a good job with it.
Comcast doesn't serve where walkoff lives ...
… and they apparently haven’t shown much interest in reaching a deal with satellite providers. That’s why he doesn’t like them. They prevent him from watching most of the games.
hakkaa päälle !
Thanks for breif synopsis !
It’s terrible when you like WAAAAAAY out in the boondocks (1mile from I-5 in
Medford, Oregon) and can’t pay to watch Oregon’s only professional team.
Larry Miller, " We are going to take the Blazer brand to the World."
That’s funny Lar, why don’t you start with OREGON ?
It's GO time !
The bit about not needing to try and stop every shot
is key for Oden. I was saying just that at the half, contest the shot, stop it you have position, otherwise any pro is going to score some…
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
I was cracking up at the end of that paragraph
And when you stay in the game…smashy smashy!
& the part about Joel Playing the crotchety old man… priceless.
by DephlatorMouse on Nov 11, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
I really hope Greg finishes this road trip as strongly as he started it.
I want to see some “Greg Oden’s a bust!” retractions being printed.
Greg SMASH!!!
I have to agree with the folks in the postgame thread, if he keeps this up his new nickname should be the G-52…
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Nov 11, 2009 9:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Absolutely no reaction at Canis Hoopus...
what do they have to say? Portland kick out our butts again…nuff said!
"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman
No need to brag.
They have very, very little to be hopeful about. Flynn’s growth, I guess, and the return of K-Love, but other than that, I’d argue half the D-league could beat them.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
Jefferson is a good piece too, he's just slowed by his prolonged recovery from knee surgery
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 12, 2009 6:48 AM PST up reply actions
They actually have a lot of nice young pieces.
But most of this team has not played together before this season and they are missing one of their best players. Give them another couple of seasons, a good draft or two and maybe a sharp trade deal and Minnesota could be a winning team. All they need to do is show progress, much like Portland did, and the fans will support them.
hakkaa päälle !
Greg Oden for MIP!..
What a turn around from last year… More smiles, more points, more rebounds… Dude looks so relaxed and happy playing that it’s unbelievable!
Realistically he’ll still struggle and foul too much sometimes but the “Oden’s a Bust” crowd is dead… long live the beast!
GO BLAZERS!!!
Based on stats alone, that wont happen.
He’d need to average 30+ minutes for his raw per game stats to jump significantly enough to get respect from the rest of the league.
from:
9pts 7 boards 1.2 blocks
to:
12 points, 10 boards, 2 blocks
…isn’t something seen as a huge jump across the league.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
C'mon Arby...
Lighten up… The MIP thing was just me bein a homer… But…this is an entirely different Greg Oden then we saw last year. I’m aware of his stats over the first 9 games but I’m pretty sure if he plays the way he has the last two game his numbers will exceed 12-10-2…
Keep the doubt alive though buddy… I choose to see the positive!
BTW check out Yahoo’s post game write up… Nothing but praise for GO…
GO BLAZERS!!!
no I totally agree.
I’m loving what I’m seeing. I want to see more and more and more of it. I’m just being realistic about who he’s been going up against. Marc Gasol, Z-Bo, and Al Jefferson aren’t exactly lock down defenders.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
Be as realistic as you like...
but the fact is that last year he wouldn’t have looked this good…this confident against those same guys…
…Besides much of what he’s doing to impress has nothing to do with his individual match up. He’s affecting everyone on the other team… BIG improvement any way you cut it.
We can't act like he didn't show spurts of brilliance last year.
He dropped 22 and 10 on GSW last year, 24 and 15 on Milwaukie, and 18 and 14 on the Wiz.
I just want to see consistency.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
Yep...
But he didn’t do that with the joy and attitude he’s displaying this year. Did you see him smile after that 2 on 1 with LMA?..
We all want to see consistency but the reality is that he’ll still lack it occasionally. Right now though he is a fundamentally superior Basketball player when compared to last year… FAR SUPERIOR
Ya forget his game against Tim Duncan already?
Duncan, even now, is one of the best post defenders of all time.
Oden just too big and strong for him as well.
Oden seems to realize that if he is too big and strong for Duncan, he is too big and strong for just about anyone.
I totally get not wanting to make it more than it is (other young centers doing as good, maybe not per-minute, but per-game), but what he’s doing he can do against anyone as long as he just DOES it. And just DOING it was the problem before.
Right now, the problem is still fouls, tonight notwithstanding.
Mortimer
Don't get caught in the stats trap.
Maybe fans and some sports writers and commentators might fail to notice, but you can bet that coaches and opposoing players will.
Any guy who averages a double – double night in and night out while playing under 30 minutes a game and who tends to dominate while opening up the offense for the rest of his team is going to garner attention. I’m betting that if Greg continues this trend, he’ll see his first All-Star game.
hakkaa päälle !
If he could get ~30 mins
His impact on the game would certainly be noted enough by coaches to earn a backup spot, if his production remains as high as it has been, and he’d have the per-game numbers to better reflect it.
Someone else might score more at this point, but Oden has truly impacted and dominated stretches on both ends of the court.
His per-game numbers are still quite good, but just don’t do his play justice.
Mortimer
his raw +/- leads the team per minute EASILY.
free bayless
by Cablinasian on Nov 12, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
I didn't watch the 2nd game against Houston; can't remember how he did
But he literally has not had a bad game this season.
Who else can say that on our team?
Oden suddenly became our most consistent Blazer! Yikes!
—M
his game score for the first game was pretty terrible.
free bayless
by Cablinasian on Nov 12, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
But he had 12 boards and 5 blocks
His defense was great.
The flukey 7 turnovers were lame, but they were of the moving pick, 3 secs in the key variety…
I still count it as a good game for him, since he was so impactful on defense. It was an odd game for him though, for sure.
M—
According to 'dem
Atlanta is his worst game (aside from the first game, which I don’t agree with). I’d say that seems accurate. Rebounded really well, but just was barely on the floor.
Tough game for the entire team.
—M
while he played well defensively, he cost the team seven possessions. That will kill someone’s game score pretty quickly.
It’s a nice barometer for how a player did overall. BBR is smart.
free bayless
by Cablinasian on Nov 12, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Forget Stat reading and look at Greg.
Stats are not retro active. It is what he does for the team and his improvement everygame that you hang your hat on. MIP is big enough to hang my hat on.
hg
To be fair, if we kept Frye, he'd still be drowning at the end of our bench.
Frye’s new found skill set is a positively perfect fit for the SSOL system Gentry re-instated.
I shudder to think what would have happened to Frye if he went to Cleveland like he was contemplating. God bless him for not doing that.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
I'll grant you that he's in the mix
But to think that nobody else is even close is a bit generous. 13 PPG and less than 6 RPG are not Howard-esque numbers, after all.
He’s had some huge games. He’s also put up mediocre stats against Miami, Orlando and Boston.
"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY
by Storyteller on Nov 12, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
Not Howard-esque
but still a huge improvement for Channing.
Who else is close to that kind of improvement at this early date? I admit I’m not watching too carefully right now.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
MIP often goes to whoever gets the most press for improving
I’d say Frye has gotten the most press and attention for his improvements at this stage, but it’s a long season.
I hope Oden doesn’t win it. He’s above MIP.
Mortimer
I agree with the BBJones guys
that 2nd year players shouldn’t be considered contenders for the MIP award, as we’d always expect them to make a nice leap from their rookie year. Considering that GO sat out his whole rookie year, this is essentially his second.
by samuelleejackson on Nov 11, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
I'd also say
It’s a backhanded compliment for a guy like Oden to win the MIP… especially as a 2nd year player. It says “we didn’t think you’d actually be good”.
We’ve known about Oden since 8th grade, he was the #1 pick and it was the Oden Draft for a reason— he’s supposed to be good and improved in his 2nd year. The MIP should go to players who didn’t just do standard improvements you expect in young players.
Besides, until the foul troubles are a thing of the past consistently, Oden will limit his raw per-game stats. I loved what I saw with him guarding a better offensive post player than most have in the league tonight, and the realization that you can’t stop every bucket and staying on the floor is most important is a big realization for a young kid.
Mortimer
How about Noah?
Dude has gotten bigger, and now he’s beasting the boards and playing solid D for Chicago. A good argument can be made for both him and Oden, except Noah’s playing like 10 more minutes a game.
by kobisportsguy on Nov 12, 2009 7:24 AM PST up reply actions
IIRC the Blazers were interested in him
they were hoping he would declare a year “early” but he chose to return to Florida
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
He woulda' likely been the #1 pick in '06 if he didn't go back to school
Riding the wave from the NCAA title game and all.
He ended up having a so-so year so his stock dropped in the seemingly talented draft of ’07, so Chicago may have gotten a steal getting him at #9 or whatever.
—M
G.O.
He’s still going to be inconsistent this year, still growing into himself and the pace of the game, but there will be more and more games like this, and fewer and fewer embarrassing performances. I think a telling moment was in the San Antonio game, after he’d swatted a few — Manu penetrated to the foul line, saw Oden, and abruptly pulled up for a j, released it a little too quickly, no follow-through. It was a visceral, unthinking reaction to Oden’s presence in the middle. That won’t show up clearly on the stat sheet, but the more Greg puts together consecutive games of ‘beasting,’ the more you’ll see opposing players hesitate in the paint.
by climbthegoldenladder on Nov 11, 2009 9:20 PM PST reply actions

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Nov 11, 2009 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
Oden tells Hollins
Your weak junk is REJECTED:

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
wow reality check
at the peak of my jump i can pretty much just reach past oden’s armpit in that photo. if i’m lucky, mid tricep. he is up there.
I always laugh like crazy
When Oden blocks with his elbow, like he did on Flynn tonight.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
And, you're what 6'6" - 6' 8" ?
j/k………For perspective, take a look at this shot taken during his rookie training camp just weeks before the injury and subsequent surgery. I would say he is about as high in the shot tonight as he was then. Imagine the camp shot with his arm straight up and I think you’ll agree. Though, ya know, he might have been higher tonight. ???
http://photos.oregonlive.com/photogallery/2007/07/oden_elevates.html
"I won't back down." -- Tom Petty
"History is important. If you don't know history it is as if you were born yesterday. And, if you were born yesterday, anybody up there in a position of power can tell you anything, and you have no way of checking up on it." -- Howard Zinn
sadly, he didn't get any of that shot
not that that changes the beauty of the photo.
by kobisportsguy on Nov 12, 2009 7:42 AM PST up reply actions
Dude, he looks like a condor
Absolute monster. I am loving this
I hate Comcast
Card carrying member of Team Bayless
I need to stop being so hard on Steve Blake. Even though I'd rather see him as a top 5 backup PG than an undersized starting SG, he's a Bazer, he works hard, he has earned respect.
by blazeraddict on Nov 11, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
The Condor. I like that.
Both condors are very large broad-winged soaring birds, the Andean Condor being 5 cm shorter (beak to tail) on average than the northern species, but larger in wingspan. California Condors are the largest flying land birds in North America.
But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart
I'm on record as not being all that impressed by the desire to tag folks ...
… with nicknames or abbreviated versions of their names, but I too like the sound of The Condor. Has a certain majestic feel to it.
Perhaps a poll is in order. Depending on the response, maybe we can get Ben to get Greg’s reaction to the name.
hakkaa päälle !
I still prefer BLACK LINCOLN for Oden
And then Oden’s dominance and popularity will be so universal, that they’ll start calling Lincoln WHITE ODEN.
Mortimer
Plus
Oden will emancipate from our championshipless chains we’ve been held down with since 1977.
—Mortimboer
I like either of these for Greg, if BE is taking nickname suggestions
1. The Condor (all about wingspan)
2. The Dreamliner (747 has been taken, and much like Boeing’s product, there was hype, initial growing pains, and in GO’s case, hope)
I hate Comcast
Card carrying member of Team Bayless
I need to stop being so hard on Steve Blake. Even though I'd rather see him as a top 5 backup PG than an undersized starting SG, he's a Bazer, he works hard, he has earned respect.
by blazeraddict on Nov 12, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
game thread, last night
someone suggested “G-52” because Greg’s big, long and he drops massive ordinance on the enemy’s heads
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
OT Thunder beat Clips
Durant hits the go-ahead bucket with under 40 seconds left for the win.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Question-
why is Dallas at 5-3 ranked 4th in the western conference, ahead of PTB at 6-3?
Am i missing something?
ESPN has us above them
Tied for 3rd with Denver.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Denver starting to lose games
now that Anthony has come back down to earth…..
"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY
by Storyteller on Nov 12, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
Tough road trip for them
NBA reality check == long road trip against good teams.
For us, the next three games tell a lot, too.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
won the 2 we had to have
so we bought ourselves a bit of a cushion. New Orleans is looking to be a borderline playoff team at best, so if we have aspirations of being an upper echelon team, we need to start picking up games like that on the road. Charlotte is a game you just have to win. Atlanta will be tough but payback would be nice.
a 3-2 road trip is the bare minimum but maybe a tad disappointing after starting 2-0, 4-1 you are happy. 5-0 is dreamland.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Charlotte won't be easy
It’s a back to back, fourth in five nights. That’s tough. Last year, when Denver was on a roll, they had a similar run, won the first three, and got destroyed in NJ. And Charlotte is better than the Nets were last year, IMO.
Nevertheless, the blowouts help keep the minutes down.
Every game is winnable, but none are in the bag. I’ll be happy if we only get one of the three, but hoping for two. I would rather have N.O. than Atlanta. I expect the Hornets to hit their stride before long, would be nice to steal one there before they do. And if we can pick off the next two and go into Atlanta unbeaten since we saw them last, it would set up that last game of the trip rather nicely.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
The part I liked best from last night's box score ....
…. was seeing that no one had more than 27 minutes. I’m hoping that Portland tunes itself against teams like Memphis, OKC and Minny to the point both our guys and Nate are comfortable with who they are and how they want to play so that this trend of getting 9 guys 20+ minutes can continue.
Then we watch as a Charlotte team expecting to have an edge at home against a tired team playing back to back gets out worked and knocked about, wondering at the buzzer just what it was that ran them over.
hakkaa päälle !
Sounds like you have it pegged.
Especially, the every game is winnable, but non in the bag. That is also true with the one’s we just won. That is said to dampen the "those games was easy and don’t count syndrome".
hg
Any road win in the NBA is a good win
Any team is dangerous on any given night, and especially when you are on the road.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
Each team is ripe for the plucking
Common sense says we won’t win all 3, and we’re looking better than we are because we just played Minnesota TWICE and the Grizz, but I do like how we look and Oden being Oden helps more than words could ever say… ever.
Hornets not playing good but Chris Paul is being the best player ever right now— which actually makes me less worried, since we KNOW he’ll kill us but it won’t matter because he’s doing that every night and his team still loses. not his fault in the slightest; it’s just a weak team.
We got some revenge in mind for the Hawks, and revenge is best served with stealing back a win on their home court.
That’s the game I worry about, though. We SHOULD beat them and we played awful when we lost, but they aren’t bad at all and it’s coming at the end of the trip. Should we win the next two, maybe we’ll feel like “ehhhh what ‘da hell, it’s okay to lose one, I’m sleepy”.
The Bobcats are very beatable. They are not good. But, on the road, anything can happen.
Morty
4th in 5 nights
It would help if we blow out N.O. early and let the scrubs be the guys who get tired.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
Ya
Get the win against NO and they had successful enough of a road trip. 4 would be nice though and definitely attainable. This is where the problem of players not getting as many minutes as they want really pays off for the team…
RUDY > MJ
We don't really have "scrubs"
pretty much everybody on the team is a rotation player on many other teams.
"I don't always read blogs regarding the Trail Blazers
...but when I do... I read Blazers Edge."
- resurrect_ha28
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Nov 12, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
We have Dante
and I want to see Juwan play so Joel can watch the last two minutes.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
curious to see
if we stay with this starting lineup for the entirety of the trip.
by climbthegoldenladder on Nov 12, 2009 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
doable until Atlanta
but Johnson/smith at the 2/3 spots could murder Miller/roy
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I hope that never happens.
Wallace will Murder him.
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 12, 2009 5:43 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not too worried...
about ONE guy murdering us. I know people think the almighty “Crash” is an unstoppable beast but his team is very stoppable…
Last game against Detroit they lost 98-75 and Wallace had a pretty human line of 12pts 6rebs and 2to’s in almost 40mins. I admit that I haven’t watched alot of Wallace’s games but it seems possible to me that some fans have turned this guy into more than he is…
I’m not overly worried about any one person on a team that scored 58 points opening night and is 3-5 with 3 straight losses. I think it’s time other teams worry about how they match up with us instead of us fearing guys like Wallace… I mean I know he’s a physical specimen but we have some pretty good athleticism inside if he get’s around Brandon also.
GO BLAZERS!!!
and they will be on 3 days rest
but sometimes that works against a team.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Let me fix that for you
THAT’S A TREND. IT MEANS THEY OWN US WE OWE THEM.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
I hope the team thinks everybody is a good team.
Since we are guilty of losing focus against teams with bad win and loss records, if we think they are good and play them as such, it will make a win much easier and the game more winnable. touche
hg
Last year we kept focus remarkably well
for such a young team. We only lost five games all year to teams that finished the year with a losing record. That’s exceptional for a young team. Credit to the coaching staff for excellent preparation.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
Without looking at their schedules
I would hazard a guess that Dallas beat real teams?
Too early to be worrying about that kind of thing anyway. Winning the division is what matters and that doesn’t happen until April.
—Dave
i figured it out.
i meant in the official standings, not someone’s powerrankings. It’s because they’re the top in the southwest division.
what happens in April? oh yeah, portland winning the division!!!
brutal dave...
you should really show more respect /s
giggle.. .. :)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Oden should be able to handle Okafor with ease one-on-one but...
the pick and roll. eek.
Friday should be an entertaining game. Let’s hope the Blazers run on ’Nawlins, because they are certainly a pedestrian looking team defensively right now.
but…
the pick and roll. eek.
I'm just not crazy about player nick names...
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 11, 2009 10:12 PM PST reply actions
The pick and roll...
..when executed well is still the hardest play to stop in basketball. Over all though the Blazers defensive rotations have been pretty darn sharp.
In their two meetings last year:
1/17/09:
Oden – 8 points, 3 rebounds, 1 turnover, 6 fouls in 18 minutes.
Okafor – 22 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 fouls in 43 minutes.
1/28/09:
Oden – 14 points, 14 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 steals, 3 turnovers, 5 fouls in 30 minutes.
Okafor – 18 points, 5 rebounds, 1 block, 5 fouls in 29 minutes.
Okafor dominated him (us) in their first encounter, Oden gets the slight edge in their second meeting. I agree, the pick-and-roll is going to be tough, especially considering he has a much better point guard to execute it in CP3.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
Blake is tough to beat on that category
although tonight, that Oleg whatchamacallit guy has him beat
That guy that started @ PF on Sunday
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Nov 12, 2009 12:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
In that 2nd meeting
The stats only show a slight edge, but Oden won that matchup handily I remember… mainly with his rebounding and blocks.
It was one of Oden’s better rookie year games, and a nice bounce back from his weak foul filled first effort against the Bobcatafors.
Okafor is a good matchup for Oden, even though Okafor is a strong defender… he’s still a traditional big man, which Oden likes, and Oden just outclasses him in size and length in every direction.
—M
last season comparisons are no longer valid
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 12, 2009 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks!!!!!
What happened in the past is in the past. that includes the first Atlanta game. That is why stats are misleading. they are a summary of the past and are not valid now. Memphis for example. they averaged 105 Pt’s and could only get 79 against us. If they played against our stats and theirs they would have killed us.
hg
Well, not quite
Sure, they averaged 105, but they were giving up 114.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
Dave, thanks for banning radioairbag
Mods at CanisHoopus must be taking the night off. Ugh.
by levelhed on Nov 11, 2009 10:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
No kidding.
I was glancing through their gameday thread. Wow. That guy is terrible.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
I agree
I lurked there a bit and radioairbag was awful. I did appreciate that he said he had been banned from Blazersedge.
I couldn’t tell if he was a garden variety troll or some kind of sociopath. He seemed to be way too interested in basketball and the game to be an ordinary troll, actually making plenty of C+/B- observations. But he was aggressive and had absolutely no self awareness, complaining he was banned for simply “telling it like it is” while at the same time calling people who weren’t even talking to him idiots.
I also read the thread over there
I have to agree with one poster, about how it must be difficult to be banned from a sports blog… He’s well on his way to making it 2 though, if he keeps flaming the good folks on CH
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Nov 12, 2009 1:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Good NBA team plays bad D-league team. End Analysis. Conclusions - N/A
Same analysis as the last time we played these guys – an historically bad team.
OK, nice that Oden committed no fouls and Rudy finally hit 4/4 3-ptrs.
Now wake me when we play an NBA team again.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 11, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply actions
Woot Woot.
I’m gonna blush, then say didn’t doubt em for a second ;)
but about rudy and getting woken up, I think rattled is a bit more like it.
I mean lets face it, he’s a star the second he lands on a sub 500 team. If sacramento could get their hands on him (and abuse him but he’d love it) they’d do it in a heart beat and he’d be sooooo much happier.
Were gonna have to do something about his usage and playing time or send him happily on his way.
he’s being set up for failure and I think he’s being used as a panic button when he’s on the floor… can’t make nothin happen oh oh give it to rudy kinda stuff.. but a great game otherwise that little brain fart of mine.
thanks alot dave and friends tonight was a good time.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
on a sweet note
I get comcast on Friday, and HD for the firsst time in my life! (I’m a poooooor grad student) Get to watch the blazers in style for the rest of the year :)
(insert inspirational quote here)
Yes...all the glorious colors and pixels
It’s like trying acid for the first time…except I never tried acid so I don’t know what I am talking about.
Remember kids, winners don’t do drug! Except steroids…and cocaine when the Mets won the title back in 1986.
He is talking about TV, Rudi
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
by 92wastheyear on Nov 12, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
rudy now is one percentage point in 3 pointers behind blake and 2 made 3 pointers behind
overall. Blake had some nice passes tonight and rudy had some careless ones but i still think rudy has more to offer in the long run given more minutes.
Rudy had more nice passes tonight than Blake, and the careless ones pretty much all came in extended garbage time, when he was trying to get too showy
and absolutely he has more to offer in the long run. the guy should enter the game 6 minutes in, stay at least until Roy comes back in in the 2nd, and longer if he’s playing well. Repeat in the 2nd half.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I still think if Nate is serious about a 3 guard lineup and playing Roy at small forward...
The move to start Rudy needs to be made…
RUDY > MJ
never seen someone so intent on trying to get przybilla a bucket
but otherwise a pretty nice game for rudy.
yeah rudy likes to get the ball 2 the bigs
and it seems his sickest passes are to joel. Im just saying the only thing blake has on rudy is his 2 point shot and thats only 1 percentage point better right now. Rudy fits much better in every other aspect and he is younger. Just imagine how crafty he will be at 28 with a few seasons in the association under his belt.
by tevisthe4th on Nov 11, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Rudy probably had a bet going
with Miller on who can get more alley oop to a guy. Miller’s guy was Bayless while Rudy’s was Joel.
Looks like Miller won.
I think he was trying to reward Przybilla for his defense
Remember that those TOs came right after Przybilla got 4 blocks in a 4-minute stretch. Rudy was trying to send a message that “if you play good defense I will hook you up with some touches on offense.”
have to decide... what are good amount of shots for roy.
can’t have it both ways. this seems like the beginning of: roy isn’t tha timportant to the offense. i smell signs of a shot controversy.
if he goes 2-11 on this same night it looks alot different, and my guess is that its the same outcome.
Roy is passing up shots
I really think he’s just relaxed and not worrying about it right now.
He was hurting at the end of last season. When the team is cruising, I don’t think we’ll see him attack the rim much.
This is good. He needs to learn
To take a backseat … to become more of an orchestrator. He’s picking it up pretty fast, thankfully. I’m sure against better teams we’ll see more good ol’ fashioned Roy iso work when the offense dries up. In the meantime, this is a more fun brand of basketball to watch.
by Sound_Automatic on Nov 12, 2009 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
exactly
Roy played it just like he should tonight – and last night too for that matter. don’t press, play withing the offense. When we need a bucket, or a game is tight down the stretch, then it’s Roy time. No worries.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
+1
"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY
by Storyteller on Nov 12, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
Did you guys catch Oden's post game interview with Brian Wheeler on the radio?
Wheels asked, “What do you think of the 3 guard lineup”
Oden, “It’s great so far and we won a few..It’s actually a 4 guard lineup…Did you see my fastbreak?” Then he goes into his GO giggles.
I know it’s just an interview but his attitude is just way better this year.
Go Blazers! Wooooooooot Wooooooooot!
That's hysterical. He was Mr. Humble in the ESPN recap
I was real nervous," Oden said with a smile. “You seen me looking around, I was looking for somebody to pass to. I’m not used to taking it up like that.”
I think we have all been waiting for Oden's humor as a sign
a sign that he has arrived.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 12, 2009 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
08-09 Oden and 09-10 Oden aren't even the same person.
No way 08-09 Oden comes back and has the 2nd half he did last night after those 2 quick fouls.
I know stat-wise, there isn’t a ton of difference when you look at his averages last year to this year, but WATCH the games – Oden is THE dominant presence on both ends of the court almost the whole time he’s in a game – even if he isn’t getting numbers out of it. Last year, he would just completely disappear for stretches.
Oden is a guy where numbers definately do NOT tell the whole story – not even close. And it doesn’t help that on a night when he’s going to go for like 26 and 17, we sit him because we are up 20.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Nov 12, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Bedgers get pwned again
People laughed when someone suggested Oden as point center, and now we see the truth.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
I do say we'll run the offense through him eventually
He’s a great passer for his stage of development, and will only get better. Very natural, unselfish passer. Sees the floor well, sees the angles, and that is something many bigs never accomplish.
m.m.
agreed
I have been super impressed with Oden’s ability to read the double team and make the right pass. He got tripled tonight and made the pass before the mob of defenders could trap him. ..
RUDY > MJ
haha
Oden is a funny guy. Oden not feeling a boatload off pressure is probably the best thing to happen to the blazers this season. That and him playing really damn well…
RUDY > MJ
Don't forget the passing of his friend Travis Smith right before the draft
Stuff like that affects you mentally. I think part of the ‘new’ Greg Oden has to do with getting his mind right as well as obviously the physical rehab from the knee.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Nov 12, 2009 6:55 AM PST up reply actions
Just finished watching the game on LPBB
Nice to see the trend of the Blazers playing together instead of just trying to isolate Roy, Aldridge and Outlaw. 30 assists? Very nice….
What do Blake, Outlaw and Przybilla have in common?
"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY
shaved heads?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
only Blazers to shoot under 50% this game?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Bingo
At least the Blazers who attempted at least one shot……
"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY
by Storyteller on Nov 12, 2009 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
well, you have to attempt a shot to have a percentage, so you don't need the qualifier
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Oh, I know
I was just trying to pre-empt any swarmy attempts to make a snide comment such as, “Well, Cunningham and Howard didn’t shoot 50% either”
(Is that the proper use of ‘swarmy’?)
"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY
by Storyteller on Nov 12, 2009 12:34 AM PST up reply actions
isn't smarmy the word you are looking for?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Actually .....the word is Snarky
Swarmy is how bees get….Smarmy mean corny or old fashioned
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
by 92wastheyear on Nov 12, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
So, will the Blazers beat the Wolves by 23 points
every time they play this season?
"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY
works for me
attempt #3 only a couple weeks away
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
and are we the only 2 still here?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I'm your huckleberry
anyone wanna argue Miller vs. Hernandez?
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 12, 2009 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
My favorite part of the Oregonian recap
We were out there practicing new plays that we haven’t had a chance to wrinkle yet. Nuthin’ better than real time game action against non teammates, I’d say.
I feel for Minny fans, suffering under McHale, but I like what they did in the draft and they’ll get another great pick. I also am very interested in seeing someone besides Phil Jackson implement the triangle and see it all the way through. If they sell high on Al Jefferson and don’t blow their cap space on someone like Rudy Gay, then I’ll say that franchise has turned a big corner this next off-season.
—M
"..he missed the factorial line .. Mathematicians everywhere cringed" - Dave
Dave, this is classic .. probably the first time ever in sports writing history that mathematics was used in this way! This is why we come to Blazer’s Edge!
-jayfisher :)
made even more poetic
by the fact that until he last little way-too-cutsie stint in the 4th, Rudy probably DID only have a single turnover
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Yes, douglast. It's good that Rudy and Martell seem to be finally finding their shooting stroke.
Now bring on New Orleans!
-jfish :)
Nate McMillan's career winning percentage as a coach: welcome (back) to .500
According to Basketball Reference, with the win tonight at Minny, McMillan returns to the ranks of coaches with .500 percentage or better (regular season).
http://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/mcmilna01c.html
A win at NOLA? He’s a winner again.
by climbthegoldenladder on Nov 12, 2009 12:56 AM PST reply actions
he's 366 and 366 lifetime, at the moment
by climbthegoldenladder on Nov 12, 2009 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
This is the tipping point, like a seesaw starting to swing the other way .. toward winning!
thanks for the information, climbthegoldenladder
Win two of the next three
and he’ll probably never see the lower side of .500 again.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
I gotta say Oden is looking more and more like the #1 pick in that draft. I know we’ve heard it before but I’ll say it again. Big men of his quality in this league are an extreme rarity. I’m not sure a lot of fans realize how far Greg has climbed the ladder of centers in the NBA. I did my all star voting today at work for the first time. I remember looking at the western conference big men and thinking “Wow, really?” Amare Stoudemire is a center? My how the mighty 5 spot has fallen. GO’s stock is on the rise. It won’t be long before he starts attracting the right kind of attention throughout the league. All star Greg Oden? No Yao Ming soaking up his international votes? Sure, I’ll buy into him making that team.
Regarding Hedo Türkoğlu:
Look at the bright side, Blazers fans -- you dodged a bullet. He peaked statistically two years ago. He's allegedly 30 but could be closer to 32 or 33 for all we know. (Do you trust Turkish birth certificates? And isn't it weird that he played four years of pro ball in Turkey in the 1990s?)
- Bill Simmons of ESPN.com
If he keeps up his improvement, and solid play,
which I expect him to do, I think he has to be in.
After all the “bust” squawking, he is a total “feel good” story.
“Beyond Bowie” is taking on a whole new meaning (what a horrid name).
Really the best news for the team.
Opponents are going to have to "pick their poison at this rate.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Atlanta
Atlanta will be a good litmus test.
I’d give the edge to the Blazers on account of their play having improved a great deal since they lost to Atlanta.
Not sure about Charlotte- I’m not really familiar with them. Apparently they have been playing well though. I expect Blazers will beat NO considering they have been struggling.
The Hornets have been struggling
in part because they’ve been out on the road. They aren’t playing well, but their road record is not necessarily indicative of the difficulty of this game.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
shooting
jayfisher, I’m not so sure about Martell finding his shooting stroke, he missed a bunch and yes he made some shots late in the game but hitting your shot in garbage time doesn’ t necessarily prove much.
I do agree it does look like Fernandez is starting to get his shot back.
As far as Martell goes, he has been doing some good things on the court besides shooting so if he can get his shooting on track then I think Nate needs to consider inserting him back into the starting lineup.
Or maybe they should put him in the starting lineup and just advise him to play Batum style- concentrate on defense and take a low profile on offense, unless he gets the hot hand in which case go for it.
hd
“It’s like trying acid for the first time”
Wow, that’s a bit over the top. How about it’s like wearing glasses for the first time.
It like wearing glasses ...on acid
then realizing that you don’t wear glasses….or a TV …it is like that
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
by 92wastheyear on Nov 12, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Mike said something about Martell racking up points in garbage time
Derrick Coleman or Derrick Anderson points… Something like that… Anyone know what he said and what that meant?
It means
Padding your stats during meaningless minutes at the end of a game, either where you are blowing the other team out or (more commonly with Derek Anderson) when you are getting blown out.
They were just joking though, they don’t think Martell is like Derek Anderson.
Derek Anderson was poison in the locker room and a very selfish player.
Morty
Yeah, I think it was more of an allusion
to just that Martell’s numbers were going to look pretty awesome by the end of the game when they were pretty blah (outside of +/-) during meaningful minutes. Bayless got a decent little bump in garbage time, too.
WAGO!
We Are Getting Older!
His jumper is still uglier than the love child of Ernest Borgnine and Ethyl Merman, but so be it.
I’d go with “uglier than the love child of John Candy and Amy Winehouse…”
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
You ought to be banned
This is a family site.
"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5
That is taking the "Family Site" idea in whole wrong direction
"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles
by 92wastheyear on Nov 12, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
like the win
loved odens game. how do you not mention the GO lead fast break dave? aside from that, hard to get too pumped. minnys terrible, memphis without as much talent. I also loved jawai, he looks like the next pryz.
cash rules everything around me CREAM get tha money dolla dolla bill yaaaaallll
by staceyaugmon4HOF on Nov 12, 2009 10:03 AM PST reply actions
Jawai kind of reminded me of a young Kevin Duckworth
I remember thinking “who is this big guy?” when Duck was acquired by the Blazers. It didn’t take him very long to advance from the bench to the starting lineup
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Last night's game was good
for the soul. I was disappointed with the first half, but was glad to see the flow return to the offense in the second half. It’s great watching Oden dominate. Sure, Jefferson isn’t that tough, but Jawai is probably well over 3 bills and Oden went through him a couple of times like he wasn’t even there.
The best part was watching Oden play straight up defense. Jefferson is a pretty good player so I wasn’t too concerned with him scoring. I was happy to see Oden pick up the penetrator a few times without hand checking or reaching. His defense reminded me quite a bit of … Przy’s – nothing fancy, hold your ground and block the weak mess.
Martell might’ve scored 16 points, but he didn’t have a great game. He still seems a little lost in the offense.
Did anybody listen to the game on 95.5 last night?
There was a line about “crushing cockroaches” that was pretty funny, but I was kind of distracted. Did anybody remember the whole thing?

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