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Game 8 Recap: Blazers 93, Grizzlies 79

This was a fairly standard Blazer game, which made it a fairly odd Grizzlies game.  As the final score indicates, this worked to Portland's advantage.  The Blazers did exactly what they needed to do, not much more but certainly not less.  They played a smart and efficient game, made relatively few mistakes, and faced the Grizzlies down mano-a-mano.  In the end Memphis' weaknesses told more than Portland's.  End of story.

The Blazers evidenced some basic flaws at the outset of the game, continuing through most of the first half.  For one they let the Grizzlies pass the ball and find the open man from the outset.  That's not a forte for the Grizz.  They're used to hitting tough shots off the dribble.  This "passing" thing made their looks a lot easier.  For a while they liked it.  Second, Portland turned the ball over and let the Grizzlies run out.  If there were a manual on how to beat Memphis, Page One would have a title--bolded, centered, and in 92-point font--saying, "Never Ever Ever Ever Ever EVER Do That!"  It's like the president making crank calls on the red phone.  You're probably going to be OK but you're playing with fire.  Also they let Memphis grab some opportune offensive rebounds.  You wondered at first if the Blazers were going to get serious about this game.

On the other hand the Grizzlies defense, as per usual, looked like thin-sliced Swiss cheese in a hurricane.  You got the same feeling watching LaMarcus Aldridge pop turn-arounds over Zach Randolph that you get when those "Please Save These Puppies" commercials come on the TV.  It's sick and wrong and sad and the poor things look so helpless, but what can you do?   The Blazers milked Aldridge and Brandon Roy and it didn't seem like either one missed a shot.  Whatever shortcomings the Blazers showed were overcome by the cruelly stabbing offense.  After the two stars took the bench and the second unit took over the offense stalled but the half finished strong as Martell Webster joined the duo as a third scorer (from the foul line anyway).  The game was tied at 45 at the end of the half. 

Turnover-inspired breakouts aside, the pace remained slow throughout the half.  This would continue for most of the game.  It was probably partially a strategic decision and partially the game flowing the same way it started, a victim of its own sloppiness.  The Blazers made sure to work the ball down low from the outset.  They also continued their trend of packing the middle defensively.  Both stopped the Grizzlies from free-wheeling their way through the game.  Both Rudy Gay and O.J. Mayo look more like Clark Kent than Superman when they're ground-bound and walking.  That's not a bad outcome for Portland.

Entering the third period you got the strong feeling that whichever team made a run first was going to take the game.  The Blazers ended up being that team.  LaMarcus Aldridge provided nice energy on the boards and on defense.  Greg Oden, absent for most of the first half with two fouls, played consistently and started taking advantage of the smaller Memphis defenders.  As in Sunday's game layups, free throws, and assisted jumpers were the order of the day on offense.  Portland got back defensively and kept Memphis off the boards.  The Grizzlies, meanwhile, decided that jump shots were their road to salvation.  If salvation is built with bricks, they were right.  Portland exited the period up 8, usually a modest margin against Memphis but in this game a significant gap.

The Grizz made a final run at it in the fourth but Oden and Rudy Fernandez upped the energy factor on defense and kept them at bay.  (That's right...Rudy Fernandez.  Hola!  Welcome to the season, Rudy.)   The offense was a free-for-all with Oden beating down the door and everybody else charging through in his wake.  When the smoke (and the "crowd") cleared the Blazers emerged victorious by 14.  Memphis had some chances but they couldn't take advantage of them because of their lack of trust on offense and they couldn't sustain the open window because of their lack of defense.

Portland shot 45.7% for the game but a striking 50% (9-18) from distance.  They finished slightly behind the Grizzlies in rebounds, had slightly more turnovers, but obliterated them in assists.  Memphis took 78 shots to Portland's 70 but only shot 37.2% with a 10% clip (1-10) from the three-point arc.  Marc Gasol had a nice game with 20 points and Mayo netted 17 on 8-18 shooting.  Gay scored 12, Zach Randolph 11 (with 12 boards).  That's not going to get it done for the Grizz.  Credit Portland with knowing where to put pressure on and who to involve defensively (basically the same:  Randolph and Gay).

Individual Notes

Brandon Roy helped carry the team in the first half but stepped back in the second half to share the wealth.  His rhythm was good both in terms of individual offense and game flow.  6-11 shooting, 20 points, 7 assists.

What happens when you don't guard LaMarcus Aldridge?  You get Excedrin Headache #19.  19 would be the combination of 16 points and 3 assists.  Had he been selfish LMA probably could have scored 38 tonight.  And get this...he added 12 defensive rebounds.  He killed the Grizz on the boards, especially during his ultra-active second half.  He found a way to control the game besides just putting the ball in the basket.  Add in 2 blocks and you have one of the best all-around games LaMarcus has played in a long time.

Greg Oden beasted up tonight.  He looked disappointed to draw 2 fouls in 4 minutes in the first quarter.  Nate saved him for the second half entirely.  The guy just went out and played.  He was a whirlwind on both ends.  One he started spinning the Grizzlies couldn't stand against him.  He finally started dunking tonight...a considerable relief to those of us who grimace every time he tries to finish with a soft chip shot around the rim (which has been often this season).  14 points, 6 rebounds (3 of each flavor), 6-10 shooting, 2 blocks, a ton of energy, and a semi-subtle game-changing presence.  Nice.

Steve Blake scored 14 by doing what he does best:  providing the outlet three.  He was 4-6 from range, 5-9 overall.

Andre Miller equaled Roy's 7 assists and got the mojo moving in the second half.  He was 3-9 from the field.

Rudy Fernandez had a really nice fourth quarter, most of the results of which don't show up in his 7 point, 2 rebound, 1 steal stat line.  He actually defended and fought out there like he wanted playing time.  If you'll pardon the expression, Rudy was the Blazers' edge last season.  So far this year you could all but feel the edge get sucked out of the gym when he stepped on the floor.  He showed some life last game and showed more this.  Whether someone fed him a different breakfast, shocked him with paddles, or changed his brand of shaving cream they need to do more of it.  We need that energy for a whole game.

This wasn't Joel Przybilla's kind of opponent and he only got 18 minutes of play before fouling out.  He had 4 rebounds.

Martell Webster hit 1 three in 6 overall field goal attempts but went 6-6 from the foul line.  He played Raggedy Andy to Travis Outlaw's Raggedy Ann.  Other than one outstanding highlight dunk Travis went COMPLETELY spastic out there offensively.  Some of the shots he attempted shouldn't be tried in H-O-R-S-E without adult supervision.  He was 1-9 on the night.  Whatever defense he provided got obliterated by him spoon-feeding possessions to the Grizzlies with that shooting. Webster got 16 minutes, Outlaw 22.  Both have seen better days.

Jerryd Bayless got 4 minutes of run in which he collected a foul, an offensive rebound, and a turnover.  After the early first quarter the Grizzlies did a pretty good job of defending themselves so he wasn't such a bright spot tonight.

Final Thoughts and Links

Getting this game was nice but the success won't be fully realized unless you also pick up tomorrow's game in Minnesota.  With a 2-0 start you're looking at a pretty high chance of a good trip with possibilities of great.

Grizzlies center Hasheem Thabeet was injured in this game.  Best wishes to him for a speedy recovery.

Boxscore

Read the Memphis reaction at StraightOuttaVancouver.com and ThreeShadesofBlue.

You can check out the Jersey Contest scoreboard over yonder.  You can see the results of any individual game, including this one, by pulling it down from the menu beneath the scoreboard.  Please note that due to the incorrect roster listing on tonight's form, everyone got credit for the "turnover" question no matter who they put.  The problem has been fixed.

Enter tomorrow's Jersey Contest form right here.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com

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Andre says

Rudy, dude, not your night, I’m taking this to the hole:

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lord knows I thought Stat Bo was a bad teammate

But I didn’t think that extended to physically injuring those on his own team:

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Nov 10, 2009 9:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ruben Patterson disagrees

Zbo breaks another facial bone

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But like I always say

I can never fault Z-Bo for breaking Ruben’s face. Ruben deserves worse.

I count that as a big PLUS in the pro column for ol’ Zachie Boy.

M—

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh...I agree

I never counted that against him….In fact I was pro Zach mostly

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just know that there is a Prozac joke here somewhere...

Blazer's Edge Ambassador to The Dream Shake Blog
LMA Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I <3 LMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMA - Putting the POWER in POWER FORWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The concussion must have jarred him into "Destroy All Opposition Terminator Mode!" - BlazersOrBust
25:24 Mins, 5-11 FGs, 9-9 FTs, +12, 5 Off, 10 Rebs, 3 Ast, 19 Points!!!! LMA vs Puppies 11-8-09
37:37 Mins, 7-12 FGs, 2-2 FTs, +18 12 Rebs, 3 3 Ast, 1 Stl 2 Blk 16 Points!!!! LMA vs Grizz 11-10-09

by LaMarvelous on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah ...right out front if you want it

Swing batta

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Too tired to think up the right punch line...sigh

Blazer's Edge Ambassador to The Dream Shake Blog
LMA Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I <3 LMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMA - Putting the POWER in POWER FORWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The concussion must have jarred him into "Destroy All Opposition Terminator Mode!" - BlazersOrBust
25:24 Mins, 5-11 FGs, 9-9 FTs, +12, 5 Off, 10 Rebs, 3 Ast, 19 Points!!!! LMA vs Puppies 11-8-09
37:37 Mins, 7-12 FGs, 2-2 FTs, +18 12 Rebs, 3 3 Ast, 1 Stl 2 Blk 16 Points!!!! LMA vs Grizz 11-10-09

by LaMarvelous on Nov 10, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 11, 2009 12:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ruben knows

how Thabeet feels..at least this time is was accidental

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Nov 10, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh right I think I purged

Those few seasons from my memory.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Nov 10, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Subtle like a...

Blues Brothers car chase through a mall…

by Visionary2 on Nov 10, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It seemed totally apparent to me as well

But I am an admitted Oden homer.

—M

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree

That comment stood out like a sore thumb. What exactly is subtle about a 7’ 285lb whirling dervish on both ends putting up 14 points in a half, particularly since a lot of them were pure beasting? The putback dunk,. the running slam against a gasping Zbo, the blocks? That wasn’t subtle—everyone knew when Greg was out there because he was simply a force down low.

Keep it up, Greg! You’re doing exactly what you need to be doing right now, and I love it!

by mojomarc on Nov 11, 2009 1:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhuuhuhuh

was my response to that dunk. Sure he looked bad the rest of the night, but man I bet that felt good….

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Nov 10, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was also the only highlight play Rudy Gay was involved in

All night. The Blazers totally shut Gay down.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Nov 10, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That dunk made the 1 for 9 worth it.

Goodness, Trout was forcing things on offense (and that end of the quarter/half/don’t remember shot where everyone in the arena was wide open and Trout forced it 1 on 9— ooph) but it’s all forgiven for that dunk.

So sweet.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Poor guy

The more he stank it up, the more he pressed. You just knew it had to do with the presence of Trout’s friends & family. It was liking having your parents in the audience at a school recital and you totally bomb. Ouch! At least Trout got some of his frustration and embarrassment out with that dunk.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 11, 2009 12:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get why, though

It isn’t as if it is the first time they’ve come to see him in Memphis, is it?

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 11, 2009 1:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, but Trout never came out misfiring before

In the past, he hit a shot or two, and rode that nervous energy to a good performance. This time, he got off to the bad start, started pressing, and it snowballed on him.

I have to say, when Trout missed his very first shot, I said, “Uh oh.” Knowing what a big deal it is for Trout to play in front of the home folks, I felt this was danger country.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 11, 2009 2:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, you were right

How can a guy whose veins run with ice water in the fourth quarter choke so badly against Memphis, of all teams? He won a game in Memphis for us with a last second shot to trigger our 13 game win streak.

Travis, Travis, I will never understand you. Completely nerveless at some times, then choking badly at others. If only we could figure out which is going to be which, you could be incredible for us.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 11, 2009 3:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I started rocking back and forth cackling when Trout threw this down

unbelievable finish, and NBA.com’s #1 play of last night.

"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov

by BlazersOrBust on Nov 11, 2009 8:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And Travis.....

Except for that highlight reel dunk (he AND Oden should vie for dunks of the week), he was everything all the Trout bashers fear: a man with no conscience, ice cold, trying to impress family, throwing up brick after brick…

You know it’s bad when Dave uses capital letters…

by Visionary2 on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

TO was bad tonight, really bad - except for the one rebound dunk

I’m attributing the level of polar terribleness to a lot of his family attending the game and wanting to put on the show for them. Obviously not the kind of show he intended. How about the terrible 3/4 court drive at the end of the second (?) quarter??? Awful.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Nov 10, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm willing to give #25 the benefit of the doubt for tonight's performance.

Jitters with the family in the crowd (heck, the family was the crowd) and he probably started pressing

I hate Comcast
Card carrying member of Team Bayless
I need to stop being so hard on Steve Blake. Even though I'd rather see him as a top 5 backup PG than an undersized starting SG, he's a Bazer, he works hard, he has earned respect.

by blazeraddict on Nov 10, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Slight correction, Mr. D
Webster got 16 minutes, Outlaw 18.

According to the box, Outlaw played 22 minutes, I’m not sure why. Maybe Nate wanted to give the Starkville section a glimpse of their #1 son. I only wish KP could’ve made a deal at halftime and Travis could’ve come out in the 2nd half wearing “3 shades of blue” instead of red/black. If anyone still wonders why Outlaw doesn’t belong in a championship-caliber rotation, all you have to do is get the DVD of tonight’’s game and replay it until you’re ready to hand in your Trout fanboy badge. Whatever BBIQ is, Travis displays the opposite while he’s out there on the court. OTOH, I’m sure he’ll make it on ESPN’s top 10 with that follow dunk.

Whoopee.

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by two4larue on Nov 10, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly what I worried about as well

We’ve seen this sort of game from Travis before— the game where NOTHING works (sans dunk) and he is actively hurting out team with his strength: offense.

Everyone has off games, but this is what happens if his shots aren’t falling. If they are? Great, please keep him in, he can get hot and really take over a game on offense. But if not, he’s a streak shooter, and should be pulled.

I’d hate for Travis to have a game like this in the playoffs, when it matters.

Morty

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We've seen it before, and (sigh) we'll see it again

Travis is like the proverbial little girl with the curl on her forehead (if you don’t know the rhyme, google it)

when Travis is having this kind of game, Nate should extend the hook from the bench, yank #25 off the “stage” and and insert Juwan.

Like I said earlier, I think Nate didn’t want Travis to “look bad” in front of his peeps. But by the second half it was “too late” for that nonsense. Still, I suspect that all the Outlaw family was talking about after the game was “the big dunk”

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We're to the point o saying this 2 out of every 3 games

without even blinking. It’s definitely not a good sign, but what else is new?

by Royster on Nov 10, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's my take too

It’s just his game, and you can’t rely on it.

And we can’t have that sort of inconsistency— inconsistency that actively HURTS you when not scoring, and even sometimes when he is scoring— in a major rotation player.

I love Travis the kid, but man… he was painful tonight. And it’s not like he did anything that he hasn’t done numerous times before.

He has gotten better at taking it to the hole, which is cool, and that dunk was worth the price of admission. But he still gets lost on defense, doesn’t block out, and the offense dies with him, even when he is scoring.

It’s tough, but I think it’s true.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:40 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm a big Travis fan

and I loved his game against Minnesota. I can take the occasional game like this.

What I can’t stand, though, is that Nate doesn’t pull him when he’s having a game like this. Why can’t he give him about eight minutes and then say, “Travis, not your night. Save it for tomorrow when everyone else is tired.”

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 10, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

EGG-ZACT-A-LEE

Travis wouldn’t get nearly so much crap if he just wasn’t out there when having an off night.

Like I said before, give him a few chances to show he’s got it going, each half at least, but if it’s an off night, it’s an off night. Do Travis a favor and put him in the best chance to succeed!

Mo—

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But look at us

Complaining after an easy win again. We’re sillies!

I am fine with any of our rotation guys having a bad game once in a while— it happens. But unless they are LMA, Oden, or Roy, I don’t like force feeding them minutes on an off night.

But what can ya do.

The Big Mo’

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, no real complaints

Maybe Nate was saying, “Travis is playing like a load of rubbish out there, but his mama is in the stands, and this one is in the bag anyway. Maybe he can make another dunk if I leave him in.”

No harm, really. It’s not like we were playing Atlanta or New Orleans.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 11, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nate is a bit of a softy like that,he actually does care about his players

As long as the game is not in question I dont think its a big deal

by southern oregon on Nov 11, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was about to say ....

…. Portland won and with the exception of Travis’ performance, the team did reasonably well, and here you guys are harping on Outlaw.

Some people just have to complain, but you Mort? That’s not you.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 11, 2009 6:24 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Silver Lining...

TO had only one less rebound than Greg in nearly identical minutes…

Travis has made notable strides defensively and on the boards which is what most people wanted.

So the struggled a little from the floor…. shooters will do that occasionally.

We won… by more then the score showed in my eyes…

GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Nov 11, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll go better than that

In the first half, Travis wasn’t making any shots, but I had no real objection to the shots he took. They were in the flow, and shots he would normally be expected to make. Your shooters will have games like that.

On the other hand, in the second half he forced up some real garbage, which should have earned him a seat on the bench. But yes, his defense was good and his rebounding is better this year, despite the fact that his detractors don’t want to admit he’s improved in both areas this year.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 12, 2009 4:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't agree more

I was screaming at my computer the entire second quarter when Gasol drew not one, not two, but three fouls in the paint on various Blazers because we had Aldridge at the 5 to accommodate Travis at the 4. Incredibly frustrating rotation decision.

"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov

by BlazersOrBust on Nov 11, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 11, 2009 1:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Travis should never play 22 minutes in a game where his shot selection (and results) are so poor

it was evident pretty early that tonight was not his night. I was calling for him to get pulled a minute or two earlier in the first half, and while there is nothing wrong with giving him another shot at his normal time in the 3rd quarter, once he bricked up those first couple of head scrathers, he should have gotten the hook in favor of Martell or Rudy, who were both at least contributing in other ways.

if Outlaw isn’t making shots, he doesn’t bring anything else to the table really.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Nov 10, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I prefer to treat him like a Juan Dixon type

If he’s hitting, play him. If not, sit him. He hurts ya otherwise.

Give him a few chances to get going, but on nights when he can’t hit and is forcing things up to the detriment of the team, just please please please sit him.

I guarantee Juwan Howard won’t hurt us as much. He won’t help as much as Outlaw when on, of course, but the life if a streak shooter means you’re more off than on.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

Juwon should have gotten a 3 minute run in the late 3rd/early 4th when it was apparent Outlaw wasn’t going to turn it around. Just enough time to give LMA a rest. After that, Webs or Rudy at the 3

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Nov 10, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with the Mikes and others

That tonight, Nate was giving Outlaw some run for the family… give him a chance to get out of the ditch he dug for himself.

Of course, he has over-played Outlaw on other bad nights, so I dunno. Tonight, at least, it seemed like a lil’ home cookin’ for Outlaw. And I do actually like that; keeps the family atmosphere around the team.

Plus it was against a team we can beat easily. I would feel different if Andre Miller was hurting the team, but we were playing in his hometown of LA and had a chance to win, and Nate just wanted him to do well in front of his momma.

Morty

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

I just answered one of your comments above by saying virtually the exact same thing….

Clearly, we agree on everything again.

Some people think that is because we are both brilliant. We know better, but maybe we shouldn’t tell them.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 11, 2009 12:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to be brilliant ...

… agreeing with Mort is not a bad way to go.

If you want to be right, then you should be agreeing with me.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 11, 2009 6:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Both of you agree with me

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 11, 2009 6:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I favor eventually trading Trout--BEFORE he can sink the Blazers in the playoffs, when every possession is magnified

Having said that, tonight was a bit of an abberation. It was clear that when Trout missed his first couple shots, he started pressing, and it became a snowballing kind of thing. Nate realized Trout was being embarrassed in front of his home folks and didn’t want to have to bench him. Like a losing gambler, Nate kept doubling down, hoping that Trout’s next shot would go in and he’d steady.

In a different arena or against a stronger opponent, Nate would have benched Trout early on and for the duration. That’s why I say tonight was an aberration. Normally, when Bad Trout rears his ugly head, you don’t see so much of him.

Tough night for the pride of Starksville. Fortunately, he got to save some face and work off some frustration with that glorious putback dunk.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 11, 2009 1:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I also still argue it's in his best interest to be moved to a team he can start for

But that argument has lost steam now that Batum is hurt, and Outlaw is still playing major minutes.

In a contract year, I want him to go somewhere he can get a lot of shots and earn a big deal. For our purposes, I’d lean toward someone steady and non-flashy, less dynamic, for the sake of no wasted possessions.

It would sure be weird to not have Trout as a Blazer, though… I dunno how I’d feel about it.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 11, 2009 1:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I advocate for him to get moved

But when I see him laughing and having fun with his teammates, I feel guilty. It’ll be tough to see him go—if he does in fact get shipped out at some point.

But based on a couple things Trout’s been quoted as saying, he’s not too concerned. He realizes that everyone can get traded and that he can land on his feet elsewhere.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 11, 2009 2:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The 92 point font is my favorite

as you might imagine

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 10:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

My Quick Thoughts:

First of all for my first jersey contest entry I did pretty good—I got a 76. Thanks for the shot at winning a jersey, that is pretty cool.

Now for the game thoughts—

Good win. These games against shabby teams kinda scare me sometimes just because shabby teams can lull us into playing shabby like them. And sometimes that is enough for our opponent to win. We didnt fall too deeply into playing at their shabby level so we won. Plain and simple.

Players Notes-
Now for Andre Blake or should I say STEVE MILLER!! I like that—thats good. Anyways Steve Miller had a great game tonite! Steve is the shooter Miller is the passer! Bada Bing—we have a pg!
Roy was classic Roy tonight—all business. Good Game!
LMA—LTRAIN in the Hizzouse!!! If he rebs like that every game and is fighting in the middle, he will be an allstar this year for sure!!
ODEN— First of all the 2 fouls were bogus. Second of all, I woulda left GO in the game with 2 fouls. After the second half GO was a monster and he stayed on the court. If this guy could just stay on the court, hes an allstar too. Its amazing how he changes a game. Suddenly every shot is contested on defense, and now when he is in the flow of the offense, because he can score, that is a major weapon as well.
Outlaw-Bad Ass Dunk! Thats It….and I mean thats it! but to be continued.
Martell—shot wasnt falling but he still managed to get it done at the line. And on “D”.
RUDY— I miss RUDY, he has been underplayed, undervalued even maybe. Hard to get minute behind ROY though.
Joel—wow—Joel looked like the old Greg tonight.
Bayless—well, he had 2 good games before tonight, lets just think about those-lol!

Starting to CLICK? Gel maybe? I dare say so. We should be winning games vs these last opponents though. Especially if we want to make it to the top. Our only real problem at this point is that we have too much talent and not enough time to keep our players happy. Overall, good game. Obviously im happy with the results, see yall tomorrow night vs the wolves.

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by cavejunctionblazer on Nov 10, 2009 10:25 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

tagging along on the game recap

GO’s fouls. I think it was Dwight Jaynes on the Talkin’ Ball postgame who said he would have left Greg in with two quick fouls. By pulling him then – only four minutes in – you basically affirm the referees’ calls on him, that his is a “fouler”, and that you cannot trust him to not pick up another. I like his point. I’d say leave him in for at least just another minute or two so he’s not leaving the game immediately after the foul. In the first quarter it is going to take something pretty blatant for the refs to nail him with the third foul.
Sidenote on this topic – I thought the Grizz (or specifically, Hollins) really missed the boat when they didn’t go to Gasol down low again in the third quarter like they did in the first when they got Greg in trouble. Missed opportunity by Memphis, luckily. Gasol has a nice game and can match Greg’s size.

Inability to stretch the lead. I was pretty disappointed the Blazers didn’t stretch the lead more in the 3rd or 4th quarters. These are the types of games they really ought to focus on doing that. Maybe they were trying and it was just a sloppy, choppy game, but on the first of a back to back one would think they would be sharper in this regard. This would help fulfill one of my other desires too – get Bayless and Cunningham more time.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Nov 10, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tough call, but I agree it'd be nice to leave Greg in with 2 fouls once in a while...

I agree with Dwight too. If you think that the NBA rumor mill is an important component to referee’s calls, then it makes sense to not give the impression that he’s a fouler…

But I wonder: is Nate not leaving Greg in because he doesn’t want the big guy to foul out and get that reputation?

by Visionary2 on Nov 10, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like he simply wants Greg to learn how to play the NBA game without fouling all the time

From Quick’s game recap:

Oden said McMillan has presented him with a hard-and-fast rule: One foul per quarter. In other words, if he has two fouls before halftime, he is going to sit.
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“Coach told me he is giving me a foul a quarter; I have to be more careful with that,” Oden said. “I definitely didn’t want to get those two fouls that quick, but I knew it. I knew it. I said whenever I get the chance to get back in, I was going to go back in with energy.”

Oden’s still making a lot of silly fouls. I bet Nate relaxes this rule when Oden stops making as many mistakes.

by Corvid on Nov 10, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Greg ought to ask Nate about his math....

If you give him one foul per quarter, to me that means you won’t yank him unless he exceeds that. Which would mean he’d have to exceed two fouls in the first half to sit…

That would be good, IMO… Certainly, you have to sit him with 3. But I’d let him play, if he seems to be involved in the offense, or if he is dominating on D…

One per quarter, that’s four.. if you have more than that, then you are only 1 away from fouling out…

So Nate, let Greg play his normal set in the first half until he gets THREE fouls, not two!

by Visionary2 on Nov 10, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with you - 3 fouls not 2

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by LaMarvelous on Nov 10, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What a great reply by GO

What a contrast with his mental approach last season. Everything GO did over the summer, and all the guys who worked with him—it all clicked, didn’t it. Awesome.

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by hurryup09 on Nov 11, 2009 1:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oden finished with 5 fouls

And picked up his 5th with 4:30 left in the game. Had he played the whole game he probably would have spent most of the 4th quarter on the bench.

Face it, Oden is a fouler. Great player when he’s on the floor, but fouls keep him off of it and it is nobody’s fault but his.

by GMan83201 on Nov 11, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rec for Steve Miller

Somebody give them a cheeseburger. I prefer to call Blake and Andre the Space Cowboy. – Elgin

Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers

by 22baylor on Nov 11, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the gangster of love...

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by DucRider on Nov 11, 2009 4:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

i just watched the sports on CW

no Outlaw dunk…my god, that was an impressive clip of film, i woulda put that in a highlight reel of the game…they had Oden’s dunk though, and that was massive too.

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by PDXBuckeye on Nov 10, 2009 10:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rudy has turned into a capable defender

His game was much better than his statline,if there a stat for rebound assist’s Rudy and Greg should get at least 2 apiece

by southern oregon on Nov 10, 2009 10:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rudy sure seemed to play good team D tonight...

Rudy moves his feet like every coach wishes every player would, and he has very active hands. His guy may blow by him occassionally, but he’ll deflect enough passes, and grab enough weak side rebounds, to more than make up for it.

by Visionary2 on Nov 10, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy Fernandez had a really nice fourth quarter, most of the results of which don’t show up in his 7 point, 2 rebound, 1 steal stat line. He actually defended and fought out there like he wanted playing time. If you’ll pardon the expression, Rudy was the Blazers’ edge last season. So far this year you could all but feel the edge get sucked out of the gym when he stepped on the floor. He showed some life last game and showed more this. Whether someone fed him a different breakfast, shocked him with paddles, or changed his brand of shaving cream they need to do more of it. We need that energy for a whole game.

I totally jinxed Rudy by abandoning my old signature. I brought it back for the last couple of games, and Rudy has responded. My bad guys, won’t happen again…

RUDY > MJ

by Rudiculous on Nov 10, 2009 10:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

you signature is so accurate

when one considers that Michael Jackson is more of a singer than he is a basketball player.

Also, Rudy is still alive so…

yeah—-I see your logic there.

I'm just not crazy about player nick names...

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 10, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand why you made the mistake

It’s so obvious it shouldn’t need to be a signature line.

But sometimes, these things are just necessary.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 10, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When push comes to shove...

I am a team first guy. I will sacrifice my signature space for Rudy…

RUDY > MJ

by Rudiculous on Nov 11, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Admirable

You’ve gone way up in my estimation with this one.

(You do know you can have more than one line in your sig, right?)

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by jscot on Nov 11, 2009 1:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good win. A win on the road is a win on the road. This team is starting to gel I think.

Greg is starting to realize that he can take a game over I think. That step around move on Zach for the dunk was ferocious. The defense and rebounding when he is on the court is just easier. Greg will be bona-fide all-star caliber as soon as he can figure out how to stay out of foul trouble.

Rudy is a different player this year. He is defending with fervor, going after steals, helping from the weakside, and looking to set up teammates. He just needs to find his shot!!! I think he is going to be MAJOR when he finds his stroke. He has really adapted to the NBA game.

Lamarcus will be an all star this year. He has looked unstoppable at times.

I love Andre’s passing game and savvy, but am growing tired of the bricks he is throwing up. I hope the reports of his notoriously slow starts are true. Otherwise I want to see fewer shots from him.

Blake was Blake. Outside shooting that really helped the team. He hit the dagger of the game that finally let my girlfriend have to stop listening to me worrying.

Brandon Roy had a Brandon Roy night. Take THAT Canzano! Brandon is fine…douche.

Travis Outlaw……well….yeah.

Joel just wasn’t feeling it against this team. Off night. Luckily we have this other guy named Greg Oden.

Marty played pretty well.

Jarryd REALLY messed up a 5 on 4 ( while Thabeet was laying on the floor after seeing the business end of Zach’s fat head ) by committing an offensive foul and didn’t get any playing time afterward.

Tomorrow should be a win as well. Minnesota is just so bad. 2 wins to start a road trip will be nice.

by dario argento on Nov 10, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It took us a whole half to realize that we were playing the Grizzlies...

But that 3rd quarter was pretty nice at both ends. Griz went 7:24 w/o a field goal! Greg was dominating and had another sweet pass to Miller.
TO did have a bad night shooting but his shots weren’t out of the ordinary for him. He just missed them. I still thought he played good D and rebounded well.
Same goes for Martell…at least he hit his FTs.
Nice to see that the misnomers regarding Andre holding Roy back and that B-Rex should displace Blake were dispelled. Can’t wait to those comments/excuses…

"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman

by clinchmobb on Nov 10, 2009 10:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think we can give the Bayless lovers a break.

They were excited about a one game thing (same thing happened last year). They were having fun with it and knew it was fool’s gold, but they still enjoyed it.

Bayless is getting better (although the 5 on 4 drive was some horrible decision making), and he only got a minute to get yanked at the first mistake. He may have had another decent game given more time.

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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I know...

I want to see more Bayless just like the next guy but all that over the top number crunching and honking based on all of two games?

"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman

by clinchmobb on Nov 10, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you had to take it as a joke or else...? Roll your eyes maybe?

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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

honk back of course!

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by clinchmobb on Nov 10, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We should see more of Jerryd and Rudy, tomorrow night

get off to a good start against the D-Wolves, put them to bed early. Let the white unit play as much as the starters. Sounds like a plan

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by two4larue on Nov 10, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

'pad their stats'

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by clinchmobb on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think were all in on your plan. Let's do it!

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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy looked good playing his game again.

And wow! Sergio & agent have absolutely destroyed him. He has played minimally for the Kings, and done poorly with those minutes at that.

Does he stay in the NBA? Especially when he will look very good on a European team?

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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No.

"oh dear god. Please be more irresponsible". - Claire

by idoltime on Nov 10, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I see less than 5% chance that Sergio stays in the NBA.

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by idoltime on Nov 10, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ahhhh Sergio...

and to think of all the fans who wanted to see him get more minutes last year…

I'm just not crazy about player nick names...

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 10, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He couldn't even make the Spanish team.

"oh dear god. Please be more irresponsible". - Claire

by idoltime on Nov 10, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I remember last year during the early part of the season

Sergio was getting a few minutes against Miami and I yelled “Sergio sucks!”…

I felt bad but…

I wasn’t too far off, right?

I'm just not crazy about player nick names...

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 10, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he's just hasn't found the right system for his style of play...

"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman

by clinchmobb on Nov 10, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Give Sergio a map...

to the nearest D-League city…

by Visionary2 on Nov 10, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I bet he would struggle to make an elite euroteam.

Will probably be relegated to a lesser one.

"oh dear god. Please be more irresponsible". - Claire

by idoltime on Nov 10, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If he had a least something else to his game besides passing...

he’d have a chance. But he can’t shoot, play D, rebound, block shots, etc.

"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman

by clinchmobb on Nov 10, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Nelly

But Nelly is just as likely to ruin his career, as he is to help him.

Nelly doesn’t require his players can shoot though, like D’Antoni.

Sacramento is and was the best possible place for Sergio to go. He just had to beat Beno, and maybe he can get more minutes now to show his stuff since K-Mart is hurt again and that moves Tyreke to SG maybe (I didn’t watch since K-Mart got hurt; is Tyreke the SG and Beno the PG again?)

M—

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if Sergio can't play for Paul Westphal

then there’s no coach in the NBA who can help him. Not even D’Antoni

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by two4larue on Nov 10, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Sergio Rodriguez's NBA career should be kaput after this season.

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Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.

Sincerely,
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by AK1984 on Nov 10, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Plenty of guys havent played well under Westphal

including the Seattle Sonics, I mean that team completely feel apart with Westphal as the head coach.

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings

by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Nov 10, 2009 11:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He likes to play up tempo though, more free wheeling

We ain’t saying he’s the greatest coach of players ever who gets the most out of his guys, but he likes to play up tempo, and that should be what Sergio is good at.

But like others day, he ain’t on the team no mo’, so no reason to complain about him.

I just want him to beat Beno and get minutes… I want him to get a fair shake, one way or another. No more questions.

M—

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If that's what you want then he should goto NY

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings

by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Nov 11, 2009 12:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sergio Rodriguez can't shoot, so he's a no-go for Mike D'Antoni.

Dear Paul Allen:

Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Nov 11, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

D'Antoni only plays guards who can shoot

I really don’t think he’d play Sergio over Duhon, and not the new kid he’s playing.

He needs guys who can shoot at every position.

—M

by Mortimer on Nov 11, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sergio is shooting 50% from the 3pt line so far...

Hey, if ULC can use a small sample size, so can I. 35 minutes > 23 minutes….

RUDY > MJ

by Rudiculous on Nov 11, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

GEEZ EVERY GUY WHO LEAVES US

BECOMES CAPT. THREE POINTER FROM HER MAJESTY’S SECRET JUMP SHOOTER BRIGADE.

I’M DOWNRIGHT SICK OF IT.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 11, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine what would happen if we traded Outlaw to Phoenix,

and he responded like Frye. It would almost be worth it just to see. Things like that dunk highlight do create an “aura” around a player.
Of course that wouldn’t reflect well on the coaching here, nor would if help us when we have to deal with Phoenix in the playoffs (though some would apparently argue otherwise). On the other hand, what would Phoenix be willing to pay …?
Now if Phoenix could just get CP or Durant….
(I do kind of like Phoenix)
I mean if we really cant use Outlaw much, if he really is “gone” (not convinced of that yet, but that doesn’t mean much). Heck, what if all the unhappy players we “don’t have room for” go to Phoenix ? Could be a lot for Oden to overcome.

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by Berkeley on Nov 11, 2009 12:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

William Faulkner, a Blazers fan?!

Quite the feather in the cap for our fanbase!

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by BlazersOrBust on Nov 11, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt many people will understand this implication

but I applaud you for making it anyway.

"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."

by Arby on Nov 11, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, thank you!

::doffs cap::

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by BlazersOrBust on Nov 11, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

so he's 1 of 2?

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by DucRider on Nov 11, 2009 4:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Do you yell that for Bayless too?

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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You weren't.

I think sucks is extreme, but he doesn’t have a lot going in his game

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by idoltime on Nov 10, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess my point isn't that Sergio sucks at basketball.

I’ll just say what I said about Bayless above: he never got the chance that Sergio lovers (& Sergio) said he needed to really get his game going.

I hope he can turn it around like Channing did wherever he ends up.

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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I get that too.

I don’t think he sucks, but he isn’t good enough and didn’t develop enough. And not making the Spanish national team for the Olympics or Eurobasket is pretty bad.

"oh dear god. Please be more irresponsible". - Claire

by idoltime on Nov 10, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess the argument I'm trying to make is the system and the minutes set him up to fail.

That is his fault, as his style isn’t flexible enough. But he might’ve become the next overrated media magnet had he ended up in NY. The Spanish team might’ve been begging him for attention.

Yes, he wasn’t good enough for us and what we were trying to do. But I just don’t want us to say “What were the Sergio lovers thinking!” when what those same fans wanted never really got a chance.

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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah you are right about that.

But I think that the Spanish team picking non-NBA level talent over Sergio really says a lot. He does need a certain system to thrive but I don’t necessarily believe he would be the best possibly PG for even that idealized system.

But I am not a Sergio hater personally.

"oh dear god. Please be more irresponsible". - Claire

by idoltime on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Spaniards would know better than I...

But I believe the decision to use Raul Lopez over Sergio was because Lopez was a better defender. Sergio became redundant on a team with 2 pass first pg’s in Rubio and Calderon. I believe they wanted a different type of pg and Sergio wasn’t it…

RUDY > MJ

by Rudiculous on Nov 10, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

as i mentioned above..

if he only brought something other than passing

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by clinchmobb on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair for the Olympics.

But Calderon was injured for Eurobasket and Sergio lost to Sergio Lull.

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by idoltime on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It is sad that they don't consider him

The best G from “Spain” named Sergio.

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by idoltime on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh ya

It was lopez the first time, Lull the 2nd. My bad….

RUDY > MJ

by Rudiculous on Nov 10, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are we really still ripping on Sergio?

The kid tried to mold his game to what Nate wanted, it just didn’t work(whoda thunk it?) He was a good blazer, he stayed out of trouble, and he helped Rudy get acquainted as well as play well here. He gave it his all, what more did ya’ll expect from him?

Yes, I am a Sergio homer, sue me…

RUDY > MJ

by Rudiculous on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really wish people would spend their time ripping Channing

After all he is the starting center on what is right now the the best team in the WC

by southern oregon on Nov 10, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Channing is a jerk

Whoever taught him the ol’ “step back 2 feet and shoot a three over a long bad jumper” deserves 10% of his next contract.

M—

by Mortimer on Nov 10, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish someone would teach LaMarcus

That he can step back 2 feet and shoot a 3 instead of taking a long bad jumper. Though it isn’t quite as big an issue for Aldridge as it was for Frye since Aldridge is a more versatile player who actually has a post game instead of relying on long jumpers for all of his offense.

by trk on Nov 10, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Please exchange 2 feet of real estate for 1 extra point.

Although if LA shot as many 3’s as Channing is doing right now, I’d be having a major hissy fit.

by xedubx on Nov 11, 2009 1:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not if he's making half of them

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by jscot on Nov 11, 2009 1:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, as long as he's making 'em

And rebounding on the defensive end, I wouldn’t have a problem with it.

The long two is called the worst shot in basketball for a reason: it is the worst shot in basketball. I want LMA 66% inside using his variety of post moves and soft touch and length, and the remaining bit being open 15 footers and 3 pointers.

He can hit it, and as long as he’s gonna shoot it, make it a 3. But I prefer him inside overall. His best games, not coincidentally, happen when he plays like a PF.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 11, 2009 1:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that three pointer has been the downfall of many a talented big

Uncle Cliffy being Exhibit One. I want to see LMA shooting shorter shots, not longer ones.

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by hurryup09 on Nov 11, 2009 2:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And Rasheed 1A

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by BlazersOrBust on Nov 11, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

downfall?

that shot helped Cliff stay in the league for about 20 years

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Nov 11, 2009 8:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and to think that the Blazers could've used Sergio's playing time

to develop Bayless faster, last year. But there were 54 games to win and Rudy needed someone who could make eye contact and throw him alley-oop passes

The Spanish Air-mada was fun, while it lasted. Will Rudy hang around Portland long enough to hook up with Claver?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What I wonder is why we haven't seen any of that from Miller

Isn’t Miller supposed to be great at throwing alley-oop passes? Where is the Miller-Rudy connection?

by trk on Nov 10, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Miller-Rudy don't play much together

at least not the last 3 games.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Nov 10, 2009 11:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather he toss them up for Greg

then come off the bench, with Rudy

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Nov 11, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, if it were me, I'd think that it was time to head home.

He’s not going to get a good NBA deal at this point.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My new fav Daveism:

“The Grizzlies, meanwhile, decided that jump shots were their road to salvation. If salvation is built with bricks, they were right.”

GUFFAW

I love it.

yea—-Oden looked sweet in the second half.

Bring on the Wolvez!

I'm just not crazy about player nick names...

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 10, 2009 10:53 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Wolves? What wolves? Oh you mean the TimberPuppies...

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LMA - Putting the POWER in POWER FORWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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25:24 Mins, 5-11 FGs, 9-9 FTs, +12, 5 Off, 10 Rebs, 3 Ast, 19 Points!!!! LMA vs Puppies 11-8-09
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by LaMarvelous on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec for the guffaw

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Nov 11, 2009 12:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I LOLed so hard at his line in the preview yesterday about Johnny Flynn

In fact, that’s going to be my new signature. Dave’s been bringing it lately.

"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov

by BlazersOrBust on Nov 11, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow I couldnt watch the end of the game cause I had a soccer game

but I saw the highlight of odens dunk in the 4th quarter and it was pretty sick. I thought that was martell dunking that for a second. I hope he can continue that.

by tevisthe4th on Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Didn't W used to make crank calls

on the red phone?

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by EngineerScotty on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Now that W is gone

no one will call Glenn Beck on his red phone. – Elgin

Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers

by 22baylor on Nov 11, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave, you always have at least one great metaphor per breakdown

“It’s like the president making crank calls on the red phone. You’re probably going to be OK but you’re playing with fire.”
Love it. Just love it.

Damn, you’ve got some real writing chops!

by Sound_Automatic on Nov 10, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

the biggest loser thus far in our newfound desire to run?

Nic Batum. This guy would be feasting on open court dunks from Miller right now. I salivate for his return.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Nov 10, 2009 11:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What "desire to run?"

Portland was 28th in pace heading into this game.

Dear Paul Allen:

Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Nov 11, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pace is like defense

There’s no good overall stat to measure it.

I think we’re the fastest team in the NBA now, and we’d score more fastbreak points if it wasn’t for our slow play.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 11, 2009 12:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And now we got a PG who can make good decisions on the break, AND in the halfcourt

For all of Blake’s plusses, running a fastbreak at a high school level is not one of them. He is painful to watch do a risk analysis each time on the break, and opt for the hold-it-up-and-run-a-play play.

I don’t want us to be a “running team”, but we gotta strike for the easy peazy buckets as much as possible. We got the horses for it from top to bottom, and now we got a PG who can do that. He is also comfortable in a halfcourt set, as evidenced by Philly’s also slow pace last year AND his ability to pick and roll and all that junk.

We’ll see if we can do it to a good team.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 11, 2009 12:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've never been more eager to see the next game

In every game, we’re seeing more glimpses of the team we’ve hoped this team would become. Miller is making the difference, including in GO’s game.

As GO said in tonight’s post-game interview, the team is starting to click. Can’t wait to see more of it…

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 11, 2009 1:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is there a joke that I'm missing here?

"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov

by BlazersOrBust on Nov 11, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm assuming

since Oden scored 14 and Roy had more assists than field goals.

by GMan83201 on Nov 11, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's sarcasm.

I missed it for the first time ever a few weeks ago, and now you have as well.

We are now even, BoBby.

M—

by Mortimer on Nov 11, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dang it!

Every night when I fell asleep, I warmed the cold cockles of my heart with the knowledge that I was king of the land of Sarcasm Detection, and you, Mortimer, my lowly liege. The royal shoe is now on the other foot. Alas! Alack! I shall abdicate.

"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov

by BlazersOrBust on Nov 11, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You have to make your sarcasm really obvious

You can’t make it semi-subtle or people will miss it entirely.

—Dave

by Dave on Nov 11, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice recap Dave

I only watched the first half so I won’t be able to post my recap until after I watch the second half later today.

by tominhawaii on Nov 11, 2009 4:43 AM PST reply actions   2 recs


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