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Looking to Consolidate the Blazers Talent? Well Guess Who has the Highest +/-? Also Blazers vs. Grizzlies Game Preview

Look, just like every other Blazers fan in the entire world, I cannot wait for Kevin Pritchard to do some talent consolidation. I am sick and tired of watching great talent and great potential rot on the Blazers bench. Bayless is one DNP-CD away from turning into a Sebastian Telfair clone, Rudy Fernandez is so desperate to impress the coach that he is chucking up crazy shots like he is Ron Artest when Artest goes into chucker mode. Dante Cunningham leads the Blazers In PER’s, has only gotten 6 minutes of playing time, and Nicolas Batum has not played a minute this season.

Let’s face it; the Blazers are one loss away from imploding. There is simply too much talent on the roster to seriously consider the Blazers a championship team. If you take a look at the Lakers roster, you can see that the Blazers have no one on the roster crappy enough to match up with Adam Morrison or Didier Ilunga-Mbenga. Championship rosters need D-League level talent for balance. Think about it; say the Blazers won it all this year, which Blazer would fans from other teams say, "I can’t believe THAT GUY got a ring?" You might say Juwan Howard, but that’s kind of stretch since he is not a bad guy and he has been in the league longer than the internet has existed.

So, now I know what you are thinking, how do we get more scrubs on the Blazers roster and who should the Blazers ship out? Well, you will be happy to know, that it absolutely cannot and must not be Travis Outlaw. Outlaw has a stellar +/- of +30, just one below LeBron James. Basically Outlaw has been playing at a LeBron James level this year while LaMarcus Aldridge has a +/- of +3. Aldridge’s +/ is so crappy that the NBA.com +/- page doe not even list comparable players. I had to look at individual team rosters to find a comparable player. Watch today’s Grizzlies game and keep an eye on Hamed Haddai, because he has the same +/- as Aldridge. They are basically the same player only Aldridge makes way more money.

Now, before I give you the consolidation trade to beat all other consolidation trades, let me share with you some more numbers that will blow your mind. I am sure you think that Andre Miller should be the starter, well guess which five Blazers combined have the best +/-?

I will give you a moment to guess.
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I am sure you already had an idea, so if you have it written down, I will proceed.

The top five player combination for +/- on the Blazers, and the five players who should be starting are: Joel Przybilla, Travis Outlaw, Martell Webster, Rudy Fernandez and Jerryd Bayless with a combined +/- of +16. The most recent starting five comes in second at +12.

I am pretty sure I just blew your mind. I know you are like me and you are thinking, "The Blazers would be 7-0 if Nate would have gone with P.O.W.F.B. from the start of the season." Well, let me break it down for you a little more.

The Blazers best four player combination is Steve Blake, Aldridge, Brandon Roy, and Greg Oden with a +/- of +23. The best three player combination is Blake, Roy, and Oden at +33, and the best two player combination is Blake and Roy at +34.

Now, you all can see that adjustments HAVE to be mad and a consolidation trade MUST happen soon. The consensus at Blazers Edge is that a backup banger is needed and we all agree after reading the data I just presented to you, that Aldridge is the most expendable.

The trade that ABSOLUTELY MUST HAPPEN on December 15th is a trade of Aldridge and Batum (who is out and will not help the Blazers win NOW) for Anderson Varejao (+/- of +46), J.J. Hickson (+/- of -23) and Coby Karl (+/- of 0). Varejao would easily step in to replace Aldridge, Hickson is a scrub backup banger, and Karl is the guy who would not deserve a ring when the Blazers win it all. If that trade were to happen, the Blazers would likely not lose another game this season.

I would love to read your thoughts, please discuss.

Star-divide

GAME PREVIEW: Blazers vs. Grizzlies

Dave did a fine preview on the mainpage, but I thought I should throw my hat into the ring and give it the old BEdge try. If there is one thing that is lacking at BlazersEdge, it is duplicate FanPosts.

Tonight, the red hot Portland Trail Blazers take on the douche cold Memphis Grizzlies. The Grizzlies are know for three things: they were once a proud franchise in Vancouver, Canada, they traded Pau Gasol to the Lakers for a handful of magic beans, and last year their incompetent GM, Chris Wallace, signed and played Darius Miles to throw a wrench into the Blazers offseason capspace plans and to get whatever luxury tax benefits his team would receive from Portland going over the cap.

The Miles signing is hailed by many Grizzlies fans as the greatest thing to happen to the franchise because Portland sent the now infamous e-mail to all GM’s regarding signing Miles, and because of that e-mail, people actually paid attention the Grizzlies. It was the greatest two weeks in Grizzlies history.

The Grizzlies roster is full of ball hogs and backups. Only two players have a positive +/-, Zach Randolph with a +11 and Trey Glider with a +2. The only other player worth mentioning is Mike Conley because he is friends with Oden, and because of that relationship; his name often comes up in trade speculations. The best way to describe the Grizzlies roster is a Cluster #$@*!

I cannot think of anything else worth mentioning about the pitiful Grizzlies, except that we can probably expect a lot of Outlaw’s family to be there, since they live relatively close in Mississippi.

The Blazes should dominate this game with a final score of 137-72.

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Wait WTF are u seriouse?

LMA for Varajao?Batum for Hickson!???Koby Karl For Nothing!!?

Trade for Luis Amundson!!Do it KP!!

by CroRupt on Nov 10, 2009 7:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

it's a pity about Miller

During preseason, Miller’s FUR rating was through the roof. You can even see the SoulGlo dripping from that hirsute scalp.

Yet another fact supporting the statement that preseason is useless. Specially for fantasy basketball.

by medmelon on Nov 10, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

FUR is only the tip of the iceberg, so to speak.

Maybe a more important metric is one known only to those in the locker room; e.g., the players themselves, Rebecca Haarlow, etc.

Butt
Underarm
Special places
Hairness

by CatMan2 on Nov 10, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

Most of this is already covered by the FER

Follicle Efficiency Rating which also includes defending follicles (mainly occurring from wearing hats and getting perms)…I believe it a much superior rating system

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

No, this is not about efficient hair, it is about useful hair.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:24 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

You are welcome to come up with a new metric about efficient hair.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:25 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

The thing you are missing

is that FER is weighted toward the hair that actually grown during the game …..you will have to admit that this is way more important than the hair grown while the player is asleep …for instance

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

I just can't agree with you and therefore you are an idiot.

Everyone who watches basketball knows that total hair and between game styling is WAAAAAY more important than in-game hair production.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:31 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

The metrics are on my side, you must agree!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:32 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It's a bane of professional sports in the internet era that so much emphasis is put on in-game hair production...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:33 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Is that the bald faced truth?

Patty Mills - PG of the future. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Nov 10, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Ad Hom ....Dave Ad hom!!!

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:33 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What did you just call me?!?!?!?!?

FLAME WAR!!!!!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

YOU R A DOrK FOO

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

O SU and SING!!!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Plus I Played grade school basketbal so I think my opinion hold more weight

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Well I used to watch high school games in person, which gives me the ability to actually SEE what's going on....

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I freakin’ filmed high school games….for the AV club!!!

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:37 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

and I think you know what that means ....

PWN’d!!

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, but what kind of camera did you use?

We used fixed mount cameras with 20x zoom and ambient light correction.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

WE.....used three (yeah 3) film cameras just like Hollywood

and i edited myself ….for both drama and pathos

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, at least I'm not FAT!!!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yo Mama

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You kids stop this fighting!

Or I swear, as God is my witness, I’ll turn this Fanpost around.

"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave

by DonkeyShins on Nov 10, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He did claim more weight

I saw that.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 10, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

don't lie

you know you spent the entire time making out under the bleachers like the rest of us.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez

by ratbastird on Nov 11, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone knows FUR and FER are orthogonal metrics

You both win big.

The only thing you need to arm wrestle for is who gets the beat for Dog World and who gets Cat Fancy.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Nov 10, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This

is hilarious…i am rec’ing every single comment in this dialogue henceforth!

by kajuayn on Nov 10, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As a FURriner

I approve this new metric.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 10, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And he is not soft although he is great at taking charges. So we can only benefit from this deal.

But slowly things happen that they cannot help and the Blazers Fellowship of the Ring begins to break apart

by Norsktroll on Nov 10, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Andre's FUR is 6.2?

“texture, originality in styling, growth rate, and propensity to male pattern baldness”— Andre rocks all of those. Plus his current hairstyle is ridiculously kempt.

Your heretofore (sp?) unmentioned variable of “timbo’s subjective opinion” must play a HUGE role in the FUR factor.

Or else, FUR is completely worthless when it’s not calculated over the course of an entire season.

Which is it, timbo?!

by Section323 on Nov 10, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't question the ways of science! I have a catchy acronym and use numbers!!!!!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 11, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

rec

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 11, 2009 1:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What about the SEM?

Significant other Utility Measurement.
Of course, you can take the SEMEN [Significant other Utility Measurement: Efficiency Numerical] as well. These important measurements would, for example, greatly drive up the asking price of Tony Parker.
It would also make sense of the Lamar Odom – Kim Kardashian marriage.

I support the Tornado Release ... and Young Bucks.

by Prevenge on Nov 11, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Finally, a stat that rightfully ranks Mike Miller as the highest rated player in the NBA.

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Dear Paul Allen:

Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Nov 13, 2009 4:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

No way Cleveland does this

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:14 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Is this a satire?

meant to illustrate the futility of over-hyped stats like PER??

by ajinoregon on Nov 12, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a satire of PER and others

but it was more about the users (defenders) of PER (and the rest) than about the stat itself

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 12, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

…and the recent onslaught of redundant posts in the side bar.

I get the paper, so I don't care!

by Name's Ash on Nov 12, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Toms overall post was about that

Timbo’s comments (and my minor additions) were about commenters who use advanced stats to bolster their opinions

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 12, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got nothing against "advanced stats" — just PER.

Chris Clark of Silver Screen and Roll recently put things well:

As has been pointed out, using PER to compare players across positions can be a bit tricky. No matter if it is PER’s purpose to give us a way to compare Chris Paul to Tim Duncan, the fact remains that PER is an arbitrary value, consisting of a collection of arbitrary values, and so any comparison of CP3 to TD is based on the assumption that the arbitrary values involved are all correctly assigned. In layman’s terms, we have to assume that Hollinger’s formula correctly assigns the proper value to completely different stats, like assists and rebounds, in order to spit out a number that properly compares the normal production of a point guard to the normal production of a center.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 13, 2009 8:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd go a little further than this — I don't even like PER as a measurement WITHIN positions, since no two teams are the same...

…………………… nor are opponents played the same, offenses the same, defenses the same, game situations the same. The numbers of a PG playing with Dwight Howard inside are not going to be comparable to to those of a PG playing with no real inside force.

I think Hollinger probably overvalues assists and I doubt he measures defense anywhere near correctly.

PER is a number for people who desire simplicity. The real world is complex. Basketball, played well, is as much art as sport and there are nuances and shades that are spray-painted over by brainless numerical reductionism.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 13, 2009 8:13 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know enough math/statistics training to have a direct opinion about PER , per say (pun intended)

So…in other words….“Yeah…what he said!!!”

However…I do believe we nailed the tone of these debates perfectly…..these types of arguments run like clockwork.

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 13, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't this then apply to all statistics?
no two teams are the same…

…………………… nor are opponents played the same, offenses the same, defenses the same, game situations the same.

Advanced statistics and regular statistics all compare unlike players in unlike conditions in unlike offenses and unlike defenses accumulated at unlike places in unlike timing. Making sense of the numbers (not at all trying to defend PER or specifically any of the advanced statistics) brings additional perspectives to the fan and to the teams (although the teams likely have much more refined systems) – (by the way is there a limit on parenthetical asides one can place in a single sentence?) and the reader who takes any one of them as all-knowing may be simply reflective of his or her own limitations in vision.

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Nov 13, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There is no way varejao fits on this team!

I mean, have you even seen his hair?! It does not fit the culture of this team at all.

I would give it all up for a billion dollars

by Tyler Durrden on Nov 10, 2009 7:14 AM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

This town’s not big enough for Oden’s fouls and Varejao’s hair.

Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Nov 10, 2009 7:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dream big — Varajao with a FUR of 36.2, Oden at 19.1.......

We’d have the best coiffed bigs in the NBA!!!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope those numbers are imaginary and not scientifically determined…

Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Nov 10, 2009 8:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anything with a catchy acronym HAS to be scientific!!!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That's so true it bears repeating...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anything with a catchy acronym HAS to be scientific!!!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

deja vu is awesome

Travis Outlaw, the Funnel Cake of the Blazers

by 22baylor on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How much would Odens FUR increase

if he brought back the Fohawk

"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-

by We-B-Dunkin on Nov 10, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

GAH!!! NO!!!

don’t even joke about that horrible thing.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez

by ratbastird on Nov 11, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

completely agree

While we’re dumping Aldridge, let’s trade that bum Roy. If he only managed two points against the Timberwolves, he’s not worth having. Maybe if we’re lucky, Memphis would be willing to part with Iverson and Golden State with Stephen Jackson. We might have to throw in a few sweeteners like Nic Batum and Jerryd Bayless, but let’s get this deal done.

www.blazerguy.com

by Blazer Guy on Nov 10, 2009 7:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry - they're taken

I am self-financing an expansion team for Seattle – Here’s my starting five, by position:

Point Guard: Stephon Marbury
Point Guard: Alan Iverson
Shooting Forward: Stephen Jackson
Shooting Forward: Zach Randolph
Go-to Center: Shaq

6th-man jack of all trades: The ’Stache (Hometown favorite to draw the fans.)

Guaranteed chemistry, since these guys are all world-class professionals.

by Ami on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a joke?

Sorry if I’m not in on the joke (if this is one).

If it’s not a joke, I couldn’t disagree more. The Blazers this year are not playing by the standard “fantasy stat” rules, which is going to lead them to much bigger success than teams loaded with a few stat-fillers and a bunch of nobodies.

Anyway, I hope this is a joke…

by odendidurmom on Nov 10, 2009 8:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

This is as serious as TiH gets.

by shralpster on Nov 10, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

actually, Tom is serious in his bball discussions in other threads

he knows quite a bit…and more observant than most if not all of us

by broyposse on Nov 10, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Speak for yourself

TIH knows nothing about basketball. They don’t even play basketball in Hawaii. Tom’s an expert surfer, however. And he plays the heck out of a ukelele.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 10, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also I hear he looks like Don Ho

"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-

by We-B-Dunkin on Nov 10, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This would be a nice picture ...

… if that sort of asian looking guy wasn’t standing in the way. The chick is hot.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 10, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

to bad...

…that girl is probably 65 years old now

We went like this, he went like that. I say to Hollywood: Where'd he go? Hollywood says: where'd who go?

by Black84GTI on Nov 11, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's also famous. Been on TV.

Of course it was for trying to get a 14 year old girl to enter into a penpal relationship.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 10, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

pffft

He didn’t even mention the FUR and FER ratings. How is he supposed to be knowledgeable if he doesn’t mention that. All his knowledge is now void.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez

by ratbastird on Nov 11, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tom is a Bater

Dare I say the “Master” Bater. And he really enjoys it.

"CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THEIR WOMEN." CONAN

by SELFDESTRUCTABLE on Nov 10, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Indisputable

other than the spelling

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave does not allow humor on this site.

Excepting of course his lame analogies.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 10, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch! That was like a charging rhino tusk up the backside

dripping with cobra venom while Beavus and Butthead hold your arms down…

That kind of lame?

Patty Mills - PG of the future. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Nov 10, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

you forgot the lemon, salt, and sand paper attached to it as well.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez

by ratbastird on Nov 11, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave did a fine preview on the mainpage, but I thought I should throw my hat into the ring and give it the old BEdge try. If there is one thing that is lacking at BlazersEdge, it is duplicate FanPosts.

I know sometimes you think you get recs for name recognition. Well, my rec is specifically for this quote. Perfect.

by Timmay! on Nov 10, 2009 8:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I got it and laughed at myself as well

"Either way we have two phenomenal units. I'm excited to play with either one." - Martell Webster

by lee3022 on Nov 13, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny stuff, Tom!

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 8:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

rec for secret message, and the juwan howard-internet line. Hilarious.

by medmelon on Nov 10, 2009 8:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I guess I don't get it.

Is Aldridge a good player or a mediocre/bad player? It looks like you’ve made the case for the latter. But, if that’s true, isn’t he exactly the kind of guy we need to have on our roster to win it all?

Recently, I proposed to trade Batum to Memphis for Randolph. There were a couple of problems with the idea. First, you’ve got to make the salaries match up somehow. I figure Tom Penn can pull something out of his hat, though. Other thing is, I was thinking that Batum was dead at the time. Looks like I was premature in making that pronouncement. So it’s back to square one. My point is that Randolph might be just the kind of player to put us over the top.

What do you guys think???

by CatMan2 on Nov 10, 2009 8:13 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

If I were Tom Penn . . .

I’d spend all day coming up with trade offers that couldn’t possibly work in any way, then offer them to other teams and make them try and figure it out. Batum for Randolph would be my first offer.

by StuckeyDuck on Nov 12, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If we don't win 137-72???

FIRE NATE!!! of course

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

PS Tom

You forgot that since the Bynum is the new Oden, we should probably trade for Oden for Bynum. Also Roy is the old Kobe…no wait…Roy isn’t the old Kobe…new Kobe is the old Kobe…I think I got that right…maybe …anywho we should trade Roy

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 8:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

This would've been one of those TiHa posts that sent me into a rage back in the day

Even now it takes me a few moments to compose myself… well done… you still got it Tom.

" Well...Game is ugly and Dave from BlazersEdge is not all that funny."-- saudagg of cAnus hoopis

by bow4meow on Nov 10, 2009 8:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hey, brp! (This fanpost needs more OT threads)

We didn’t get into to Portland in time to meet you guys over at McFaddens before the Spurs game. Just made it to the Rose Garden in time. What a fun game though! We try to see 2-3 games each year, so maybe we’ll be able to get together another time.

by CatMan2 on Nov 10, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

all good, next time let us know

and we’ll all arrange to meet up. i figure you might cut it close because of the traffic. you picked a great game to attend…this just means you have to go to more games!

by broyposse on Nov 10, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I concur

My life has a superb cast, but I can't figure out the plot. --Woody Paige

by prezofdeath on Nov 10, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dear god...

he’d start banning everyone for not wearing bikini’s or something!

Think about what you’re saying!!!

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez

by ratbastird on Nov 11, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is funny in context of this post

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 9:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That was already funny, so I guess it makes it really really funny.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough,

But my post was hardly the worst offender in the redundancy department. And I didn’t suggest anything crazy (like a trades that will never happen and don’t make sense). The Blazers will deal Outlaw before the deadline if they can get anything of value for him.

www.blazerguy.com

by Blazer Guy on Nov 10, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Unless they don't deal him

Travis is (so far) playing better defense, rebounding better (at least at times), and showing a more rounded offensive game by taking it to the hoop.

If that continues, Travis will probably not be traded, and probably be re-signed this summer to a pretty nice contract.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 10, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course it’s not a panacea, but perhaps if the Blazers eliminated the bench altogether players couldn’t rot on it. They could put in a little nerf court in place of the current bench so during the game we could have a little sideshow where Jerryd, Dante, and JuHo get some burn. It would go a long way for player development and morale.

by shralpster on Nov 10, 2009 9:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The court should be about 15 feet long,

and the baskets at the standard 56 inches high.

by sagcat on Nov 10, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

free bayless

by Cablinasian on Nov 10, 2009 9:15 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

PLEASE someone explain to me what

“Ad Hom” means!!!!

"I don't always read blogs regarding the Trail Blazers
...but when I do... I read Blazers Edge."

- resurrect_ha28

by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Nov 10, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Formally, the term "ad hominem" refers to a rhetorical tactic

 
where the argument made by person X is criticized on the basis that it made by person X. In such cases, it is presumed that person X is a liar, very gullible, ignorant, or has some other fault which would—it is claimed—invalidate his or her arguments. [Note that this is essentially the converse of the “appeal to authority” tactic, where an argument is accorded credibility because it is made by person Y, who is truthful, wise, experienced, or has some other qualification which would—it is claimed—add weight to his or her arguments.]
 

More informally, the term “ad hominem” refers to an attack against a person, regardless of whether the aim is to discredit that person’s argument. It is the behavior referred to in this sense of the term that is barred on Blazersedge. In short, you may not call other posters or commenters demeaning names or make disparaging personal remarks about them. Consequently, I flagged timbo, 92wastheyear, and timg56 for their hurtful comments in this FanPost.

by CatMan2 on Nov 11, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey...which comment of mine did ya flag??

Yo mamma?

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 11, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly that was an egregious example of offensive discourse.

 
I’m trying to decide whether this new mention also constitutes an abuse. If you and the other miscreants were self-flagging, there would be no need for the rest of us to concern ourselves with this onerous task.

by CatMan2 on Nov 11, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

self-flagging?

This is a family site

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 11, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When I say "self-flagging" I mean something other than what you suggest (perhaps).

 
It is obvious that one can no more flag oneself than one can rec oneself.
 
What I mean, then, is that you should flag timbo, and he should flag timg56, who in turn should flag you. The result, rather than “self-flagging”, might more properly be called “circle-flagging”.

by CatMan2 on Nov 11, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

so really...

they’re just all flagging each other.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez

by ratbastird on Nov 11, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm cool with stat geeks

I poked fun at folks who prop up a player or dis a player based on one stat. Actually, I poked fun at more folks than that, I’m cool with stat geeks.

by tominhawaii on Nov 11, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This should be a Tomshot.

Patty Mills - PG of the future. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Nov 10, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Your post is interesting but my simulations in BB2k10 show that your suggested starting five would get their rears kicked by a Memphis team consisting of five Allen Iversons (I totally hacked the game so I could do stuff like that, it’s sweet).

My team went to the playoffs in my first year.

by pxilpooshr on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

good thing you didnt have 6 iversons

because the one on the bench would have cried about it and retired and your entire team would be gone and forfeit.

I’m being told that Memphis does not have enough players and will be forfeiting the basketball game.
It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for ’em.

by GreatOden'sRaven on Nov 10, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Which one is the Franchise Player????

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 10, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he's at practice

I get the paper, so I don't care!

by Name's Ash on Nov 10, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Practice?

We talkin bout practice?

"I'd like to see Nate McMillan stop treating fouls like they are rollover minutes." - Blazer Guy 11/4/09

by jamon51 on Nov 10, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You mean the MVP?
  • Most Vanished Player
  • Most Vain Player

by MiledAnimal on Nov 10, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you mean

Most Vanquished Player

by kajuayn on Nov 10, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe

that there are four idiots out there that voted for consolidated fan posts. You are not real blazer fans.

by TPforprez on Nov 10, 2009 10:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

So don't believe it, then.

You should get your eyes examined before you start spewing your hate around here! It was 4 people who voted for “Consolidation FanPosts”.

by CatMan2 on Nov 10, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, this comes off as a little too aggressive.

I should add that my comments here are to be taken in the spirit of Tom’s oeuvre.

by CatMan2 on Nov 10, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

his ovary?

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez

by ratbastird on Nov 11, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think I used enough caps.

Time to go back to OL and study how to post.

by TPforprez on Nov 10, 2009 10:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rectacular work, amigo

Looking forward to the post-game FanPost with the updated +/- numbers.

by Corvid on Nov 10, 2009 10:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Although I do tend to trumpet plus/minus from time to time, this fanpost is great.

Unfortunately, funny as it is, I have to admit I can’t be completely sure the Blazers wouldn’t be better off with Andyman than LMA. Between Varajeo and Oden/Przy, other teams might not get a single rebound all game or score a point in the paint. One thing LMA is certainly better at – missing 18-foot fadeaways while being defended by Matt Bonner.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Nov 10, 2009 11:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

flag

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man thats harsh

definite party foul….yellow card…watch it “pal”

by kajuayn on Nov 10, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tom!!

thanks for reminding me…

It’s a great day to be a Blazersedgian

cheers

by naybobjoe on Nov 10, 2009 11:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Do You Even Watch Basketball????

great chuckle for the morning TIH…thanks!

by jstbeachy on Nov 10, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Awesomeness

"I'd like to see Nate McMillan stop treating fouls like they are rollover minutes." - Blazer Guy 11/4/09

by jamon51 on Nov 10, 2009 12:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I might do it tonight

I can’t find my old spreadsheet.

I am the Nathan Jawai of Blazers Edge.

by tominhawaii on Nov 10, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the purpose of adding moderators ...

… was to keep this sort of crap off BE.

It is particularly galling to have to liten to foreigners come to our website and spew their rotten & stinky ideas and opinions. Is Hawaii even a real state? I don’t think so.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Nov 10, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

They don't even speak English

Not really. They have this weird “pidgin” that no true American can understand.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Nov 10, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been watching the news

And I’m pretty sure it’s part of Kenya.

by sagcat on Nov 10, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Indonesia, actually

Heck of a basketball league out there. They say it will be up there with the Sri Lanken league within five years.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Nov 10, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a mental state. And not a good one.

Tom, I’d also like to see analysis on both armpit sweat and smelliest feet. Kobe sweats alot and he has lots of rings…

Patty Mills - PG of the future. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Nov 10, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec

"And in the end
The love you take
Is equal to the love you make." -The Beatles

by 92wastheyear on Nov 10, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Thrilliam, you have to be kidding. It’s called satire, written by the master satirist. Unless your comment was also satire, in which case I got completely juked. But…I doubt I was the one juked in this case.

"I'd like to see Nate McMillan stop treating fouls like they are rollover minutes." - Blazer Guy 11/4/09

by jamon51 on Nov 11, 2009 12:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've missed this kind of well researched, erudite analysis in the sidebar.

Well done.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Nov 10, 2009 3:42 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Well Done

A fun read as usual.

When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it!

by blazerfrog on Nov 10, 2009 4:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

BUT WHAT DOES AARON SASS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS POST??????

I DEMAND A REVIEW!!!!!

i realllllllllllllllly hate your sig :(
n o offense
-BlazerFan1

by TheTinfoil on Nov 10, 2009 5:10 PM PST reply actions   4 recs

I can barely type...

Epic.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Nov 11, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the above FUR ratings

completely ignore Greg Oden’s awesome scalp ridges. Who else can sport visual multi-level stripes on their head while maintaining an even surface? Not only that, his ridges aren’t horizontal like some fat guy with neck rolls, but instead Oden has the much more rare longitudinal ridges, which not only look better, but significantly increase his aerodynamic potential.

by superfly05 on Nov 10, 2009 5:11 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

Thanks Tom

I’ve been wondering for years how we can get that elusive ’Stache Enabler. Now the dream roster can be complete and the sky can be propped up again.

Also, now Nate doesn’t have to perpetually whine about his ‘open door policy,’ he can simply tell Coby to shut the (profanity) up.

Sweet.

It wasn't the first time I'd been kicked in the cherries and called a rat by a woman, but it was the first time I didn't mind.

by shenanigans on Nov 10, 2009 8:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

My favorite part

Is the "guy who everyone says “HE won a title?!?!” on the roster" part.

We have no one who, if we win, would be used as a joke for them actually having a ring. Darko has one, Adam Morrison, Antoine Walker… no one on our team would be embarrassing to be a Champion.

Well, AK would say Bayless would be, but AK just mad at BayBay being such a cutie pie.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 11, 2009 11:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We should have won it last year

We had Raef and Ruffin and Randolph and Rodriguez in the Roster Rejects Role.

This year, the best we can manage is Patty Mills.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 12, 2009 12:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'd put Travis Outlaw in the Antoine Walker category.

Outlaw will be out of Portland before the Trail Blazers win another championship, though.

Dear Paul Allen:

Fire Nate McMillan & hire Jeff Van Gundy.

Sincerely,
AK1984

by AK1984 on Nov 13, 2009 4:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But he's such a nice boy

No one will be ANGRY that he has a ring, like I am about Antoine “The Worst Player in the NBA” Walker.

The levels of Walker’s selfishness and harmful play is LEAGUES above Trout, especially since I don’t think Trout is selfish.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 13, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So Tom

Now that I have stopped falling for your sarcasm posts, you have stooped to including me in your spoofs?

You are an evil man, a very evil man, but still funny! Have a nice day, Ser Thomas.

by upper left corner on Nov 11, 2009 12:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He is always serious about everything he says about me

You should try being future ruler of the world some time. It makes people more careful.

"Woulda, Coulda, Mighta and Shoulda – the Four Horsemen of the Procrastocalypse" - Red-5

by jscot on Nov 12, 2009 12:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

as of the last game Oden has the highest +/- at 43 with Roy at 40

But if you go by +/- per minutes played, Oden is almost double Roy, and Outlaw is now 2nd behind Greg. Thought it was interesting that Oden now leads no matter which way you slice it.

DIE IN HADES SIDEBAR

by Blazer1342 on Nov 11, 2009 4:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Truly fabulous!

My day is better now – thanks, Tom!

by roseburgian on Nov 11, 2009 4:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wonderful Post and Comments

Laughter has brought much healing.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Nov 11, 2009 11:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs


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