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The Dontonio Wingcast Episode 009

Basketball Prospectus's Kevin Pelton and I are back with a new episode of The Dontonio Wingcast and a big announcement: KP2's Pro Basketball Prospectus Season Preview book has been officially released!  

I've been helping him gas this thing up for longer than a pregnancy so you already know that you should support his fantastic contributions to this site and, more importantly, learn a lot about the National Basketball Association by purchasing it. The PDF version is available now; the print version is coming in the next few days.

On this episode of The Dontonio Wingcast, Kevin and I put John Hollinger's Blazers player rankings under the microscope, going position by position to get Kevin's insight on each Blazer that made one of Hollinger's lists. Along the way I offer some observations from training camp.

  • In segment 1, we look at the point guards.  Kevin tells us exactly how good Andre Miller is, Kevin supports Blake as the starting Point Guard and I explain why Jerryd Bayless's twitter has me concerned.
  • In segment 2, we look at the 2s and 3s.  Kevin compares Brandon Roy to Wade and Kobe, we look at whether Rudy is actually a starting-quality 2, we debate whether Outlaw should be considered a 3 or a 4 from a statistics standpoint and we laugh over the fact that Nic Batum was ranked higher than Hedo Turkoglu.  Pelton also kinda sorta trashes Martell Webster.  
  • In segment 3, we look at the 4s and 5s.  Kevin gives a slightly pessimistic appraisal of LaMarcus Aldridge, he does backflips for Greg Oden and explains why statistics will always fail to understand Joel Przybilla. 

Music selections:

Boyz In The Hood -- Dem Boyz
Arrested Development -- Tennessee
Shyne -- Diamonds and Mac 10s 

A special congrats to Shyne, by the way, for his release from prison.

You can subscribe to our iTunes feed or stream/download the mp3 here: The Dontonio Wingcast Episode 009

The mp3 is 40 megabytes.

Mild profanity warning is always in full effect.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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by Bandwagon Butcher on Oct 8, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

so far, so good

But the projection of Baron Davis as a better fantasy player than Chris Paul is a major hit on its credibility! Just playing, though I’d like to hear an explanation on that one, because it projects Paul beating Davis (mostly by a lot) in every category but blocks and tying in turnovers.

by PoliSam on Oct 8, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bought KP2's book

Early review (after reading ~2% of it): Lots of really interesting analysis, lots of fun numbers to look at. Great, great stuff. One suggestion for next year: sometimes the qualitative analysis and the numbers don’t always match up (which is expected, of course). More in depth discussion of those discrepancies and what explains them would be awesome.

by jksnake99 on Oct 8, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I have to tell the truth, these podcasts have all been pretty weak. The worst part

is that you record them so even with my volume all the way up I can barely hear it.

by BRoyInThe4th on Oct 8, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I love the podcasts. Volume is fine for me.

Its my favorite Blazer podcast— above the Quick chats or the Dave/Casey/Gavin podcasts. The only thing that beats it is if courtside has a good guest.

by jksnake99 on Oct 8, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

why does it sound like they’re both on the telephone? I couldn’t listen

by 50backflips on Oct 8, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because we are both on the telephone. Heh.

by kpelton on Oct 8, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read a cool way to make high quality recording without being together.

It’s kind of obvious, but you just each record yourself locally, and then combine the two recordings.

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Oct 8, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ben is an Oden homer. ;)

Great podcast. Love to hear Pelton’s analysis… He does a great job. I’d like to see him focus a bit more on Durant’s (lack of) playmaking ability hurting his team, but he does a fine job detailing his defensive issues. He’s obviously a great scorer… just needs to pass and play defense to lead his team to wins.

About to buy the .pdf, very excited.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 8, 2009 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

just mentioned Durant because I’ve only seen the Thunder preview so far.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Oct 8, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The volume was much better this time

I took the bus to work and didn’t even have to max it out.

Good podcast, my only other suggestion is to give some sort of clue that you’re ending it. It always ends so abruptly and I wonder if the iTunes betrayed me.

by tominhawaii on Oct 9, 2009 8:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Great job as always by both

I’m definitely going to have to get this year’s prospectus.

Ben – ease up on Bayless! You act as though Skype were invented by the L*kers to brainwash the civilized world…..wait, almost everyone I know who uses Skype IS a fan of the L*kers…..

"It's Our Time":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99POVJfglY

by Storyteller on Oct 9, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

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